"Born August 8, 1879, in Anenecuilco, Morelos. Was a mediero(sharecropper) and horse trainer.
Conscripted into the army for seven years, attaining the rank of sergeant. As president of the village council, he campaigned for the restoration of
village lands confiscated by hacendados. His slogan was "Tierra y Libertad". Zapata sided with Madero.
Between 1910 and 1919, Zapata continued his fight for land and and liberty, rebelling against anyone who interfered with his Plan of Ayala which
called for the seizure of all foreign owned land, all land taken from villages, confiscation of one third of land held by "friendly" hacendados and
full confiscation of land owned by persons opposed to the Plan of Ayala."
I needed an excuse,
now we all have one...fdt - 8-8-2007 at 08:12 AM
Thank's
I wonder...........
Baja Bernie - 8-8-2007 at 08:25 AM
How he would be received if, today, he ventured to Baja Sur and unfurled his banner of "Land & Liberty." The rumor was that he never died so it
is possible that he could make the journey any day now.oldhippie - 8-8-2007 at 08:40 AM
He wouldn't be happy with Hacienda Butterfield and peonage he has planned for the Mexican residents of Loreto.
Do the people of Mexico know their history? They're repeating it, at least as far as Loreto is concerned.
Viva Zapata!elizabeth - 8-8-2007 at 09:11 AM
ˇViva Zapata! ˇZapata, presente!fdt - 8-8-2007 at 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
The rumor was that he never died so it is possible that he could make the journey any day now.
Kennedy and Elvis are going with him.Mexitron - 8-8-2007 at 10:35 AM
Happy birthday Emiliano!
Zapata
academicanarchist - 8-8-2007 at 02:04 PM
Diego Rivera's rendition of Zapata from the Palacio de Cortes in Cuernavaca, Morelos. Anenecuilco is located just outside of Cuautla, Morelos, and is
about an hour from Cuernavaca. It was a major sugar producing region prior to the 1910-1920 revolution.
flyfishinPam - 8-8-2007 at 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by oldhippie
He wouldn't be happy with Hacienda Butterfield and peonage he has planned for the Mexican residents of Loreto.
Do the people of Mexico know their history? They're repeating it, at least as far as Loreto is concerned.
Viva Zapata!
I read the history of Mexico three times because it was so interesting. Yes the haciendado situation is repeating itself in Loreto and in other
areas, I can see that clearly and have mentioned it many times. with the poor education locals get here I doubt they can recall their history and few
will make this connection.
ˇViva Zapata!
ˇTierra y Libertad!bajadock - 8-8-2007 at 09:05 PM
Golly Gosh, we are a People Magazine/CNN culture. Some idiot posts his single life fantasies and this board has the most fun possible without
wrapping it in bacon or grouper.
My occasional post on history, tradition and Mexican leaders is my attempt to learn and share more about my new country. Happy to see a few pickup
on historical repetition of land ownership challenges.
I do like grouper. And the ceviche I am finding in Ensenada is becoming my favorite dinner. Ok, add several cervezas due to my irish bloodlines.
Ok, add one of E.Z.'s great grand daughters.
Viva Zapata y Viva Mexico!
The Same Boss in a Different Set of Clothes
academicanarchist - 8-9-2007 at 01:01 AM
%Thomas Nast's famous political cartoon is appropriate here: "To The Victors Belong The Spoils." Although the 1917 constitution ostensibly abolished
haciendas, there have been and are ways of getting around it, such as buying an amparo or registering the land in sections among family members just
below the legal limit. The post-revolution leaders have always set a good example of economic disinterest and social justice for the poor.
Zapata
academicanarchist - 8-9-2007 at 01:06 AM
Of all of the revolutionary caudillos (cow-dillos) of that period, Zapata was the only one who actually was faithful to his stated agenda, the Plan de
Ayala. His activism began when he inherited the responsibility of protecting the Anenecuilco land titles. Other community leaders during the
Porfiriato, when sugar was expanding in Morelos, sent papers to Mexico City for suits, and the papers mysteriously disappeared. Zapata wanted the
restoration of community lands he felt had been wrongly taken. He was gunned down in 1919 on the orders of Gen. GOnzalez, one of the revolutionary
caudillos who was himself very modest in his reaping of the spoils.oldhippie - 8-9-2007 at 07:52 AM
academicanarchist,
This is off topic, but if you like anarchy (I've always thought I would do well in such a society) you should visit the Dominican Republic. I spent a
couple of weeks in Puerto Plata and from I could tell and from conversations with locals, the Government has no money/power. It's a free for all. I
liked it. And all the people I met seemed to be happy.rpleger - 8-9-2007 at 10:38 AM
Happy Birthdaybajalera - 8-13-2007 at 01:11 PM
Hang in there with those occasional posts, Bajadock. This forum is in constant danger of fading completely away [except for the efforts of the
anarchist] and needs all the help it can get.bajabound2005 - 8-13-2007 at 04:44 PM
His birthday explains the vendors selling Mexican flags on the streets!DENNIS - 8-13-2007 at 04:51 PM
Traditionally, the flag sales have commenced about a month before Independence day.Oso - 8-13-2007 at 05:10 PM
A local Yuma landmark, Sprague's gun store (known to local Latinos as "Sprago's), is featuring an Emiliano Zapata Commemorative Colt 1911 in .38
Super.Dave - 8-13-2007 at 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Oso
A local Yuma landmark, Sprague's gun store (known to local Latinos as "Sprago's), is featuring an Emiliano Zapata Commemorative Colt 1911 in .38
Super.
So...what are they asking? Limited edition...how many?
I could sell all you brung me. Oso - 8-13-2007 at 08:13 PM
Ad didn't say, I'll check. You're not suggesting a pillar of the community like me would engage in contraband are you?bajabound2005 - 8-13-2007 at 08:23 PM
I have to stay that wondered aloud to Bajamigo about Ind Day...but we thought, NO, Way too early; but I guess this birthday is an allowable event to
start those sales early; nothing like a cracked windshield to go along with that Mex Flag!
Engage?
Dave - 8-13-2007 at 08:30 PM
Who said anything about marriage? Baja&Back - 8-13-2007 at 08:31 PM
Feliz Compleano, Emeliano, ol' Buddy!
Just love the guy - except that he was a flaming socialist
Great moustache, tho ...
Oso
Baja Bernie - 8-13-2007 at 08:39 PM
You know Dave would never suggest anything like that! However, should you show up with a few I am sure he would give you--oh! about an 80%--20% split
on the profit, Sure, you just know who would get the lion share.
You know being a 'pilla' doesn't hold any water with him.Oso - 8-14-2007 at 08:02 AM
The governor and the local people are having land issues and Zapata rides his horse into the governor's office. He notices a large gold watch on
the governor's desk, and after some haggling, tells the governor: if you don't give the people back their land, I am going to take your gold watch.
People got some land back. Silly but true story.
Oso - 8-15-2007 at 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Dave
Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
A local Yuma landmark, Sprague's gun store (known to local Latinos as "Sprago's), is featuring an Emiliano Zapata Commemorative Colt 1911 in .38
Super.
So...what are they asking? Limited edition...how many?
I could sell all you brung me.
Dropped by "Esprago's" today to renew my license before the opener. Thought about picking up half a dozen to bring you but was just a leetle bit shy
of change. They are going for $3,899.00 USD. They shore are purdy tho. Black with inlaid gold, Emiliano's name and likeness on one side, a
representation of Kukulcan and EZ's most famous quote on the other: "Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas".
Jeeeeeeezuuuussss!
Dave - 8-15-2007 at 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by Oso
They are going for $3,899.00 USD.
I was thinkin like $1,750. Still, if they were limited edition I might buy one. Love the quote. Tailor-made for the side of a pistol. Except...
Whoever was staring at the business end would probably be the one on his knees. Eli - 8-16-2007 at 05:19 PM
