BajaNomad - Dogs In Mexico

Dogs In Mexico

SunBums - 9-5-2007 at 12:59 PM

This is going to be our first trip taking a dog with us into mexico. Other than the obvious things like drinking water and not letting her eat "special finds..yuk" Does anybody have any advice. Does the Costco or other pet stores carry IAMs canned dog food. Any problems taking pet food in or out of the States. The last time through we had all our steaks and chili confiscated because it had beef in it.

Paulina - 9-5-2007 at 01:25 PM

Make sure you have proof of rabies with you. I used to always get an International travel certificate from my vet, but after never being asked for it I stopped spending the $ for it.

If your dog needs special foods such as the IAMs you mentioned, take it with you. No problems taking food into Mex. From my experience, if it's in a U.S. can you can bring it back with you across the border stateside. We were asked at our last U.S. secondary inspection if we had "dog food" with us. We didn't, so no worries.

Watch out for dead puffer fish on the beach, dogs seem to like to eat these. They are toxic. Thank goodness when our bullmastiff Rosie ate one she was a pig and swallowed it whole. She threw it up and slept for three days. Our neighbors Welsh Corgi ate one and died.

Rolling in dead things on the beach is a fun past time for our dog. Not hazardous, but super smelly.

Chasing coyotes is bad, so is chasing Ravens or Crows. She was following one with her face looking skyward as she ran into a cholla. It took 4 hours and a good set of pliers to pull all the spines out of her face, mouth, throat. I guess the point is to keep an eye on them in camp.

Take Benedril with you. It will help in some cases.

We turned our back on our dog Cora and she was up the lighthouse in no time.

we were still on the ground, but I guess she thought she'd get a better view from up above.

bacquito - 9-5-2007 at 03:15 PM

Don't let your dog run free or mix with other dogs.

Bob and Susan - 9-5-2007 at 03:27 PM

get the health cert from the vet or bring the vaccine papers

get heartworm medicine for them too

they won't need a passport to return but make sure they say they are american ...if asked

bajamigo - 9-5-2007 at 03:40 PM

And if your dog is cute or of a breed that recently starred in a movie, watch him like a hawk.

Marie-Rose - 9-5-2007 at 05:52 PM

Read the thread on Mange and Sarcoptic mange... and pay attention. Get some
Revolution and use it on your dog(s). :yes:

bajabound2005 - 9-5-2007 at 06:48 PM

make sure your dog is current on flea treatment as well. Where are you headed? Ticks can also be a problem. And DO bring your own dog food!

edm1 - 9-5-2007 at 07:38 PM

During my trip 2 months ago, inspectors didn't mind an open bag of dog food inside the RV, to and from Baja.

Dog-Friendly Hotels in Baja

BCSTech - 9-6-2007 at 05:52 AM

http://groups.google.com/group/bajaponyexpress3/web/4-19-07-...

mtgoat666 - 9-6-2007 at 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by SunBums
This is going to be our first trip taking a dog with us into mexico. Other than the obvious things like drinking water and not letting her eat "special finds..yuk" Does anybody have any advice. Does the Costco or other pet stores carry IAMs canned dog food. Any problems taking pet food in or out of the States. The last time through we had all our steaks and chili confiscated because it had beef in it.

Get your dogs some spanish barking tapes. They really should try to speak the local lingua -- if your dogs make an effort, the local dogs may be more accepting.

villadelfin - 9-6-2007 at 10:47 AM

:lol:

toneart - 9-6-2007 at 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by bacquito
Don't let your dog run free or mix with other dogs.

Not a problem! My BIG dog is super friendly with all people and all dogs. He wants to play. When he runs towards Mexican dogs, they turn and run....even when there are several of them. They are afraid of him. I am able to order him back before he reaches them.

I always get an International Health Certificate from my dog's vet. before leaving. The most important document is the Rabies certificate. In our many trips, I have never been asked for any dog papers, until I crossed back into the U.S. at Tecate last April. The female officer was already mad at me because I stayed in the right lane with my small trailer. When the light turned green I proceeded and then noticed that she ran out and started gesturing frantically for me to get into the left lane. Too late. She chewed me out when I got to the booth. On a string last year on this board, someone said you are supposed to be in the right lane, but need to swing out into the left lane in order to make the turn. Because my trailer is small, turning was not a problem.

OK....we are talking about dogs.....well, the agent barked at me. She then asked, "do you have papers for the dog?"
I replied "yes" and then she wrote up something on a form and stuck it on my windshield and sent me to secondary. The agent in secondary looked at it, gave a quick look inside the trailer, was very pleasant, and didn't even ask me for the dog papers that the dog...er I mean the agent in the booth, had written up. I was quickly on my way.

Price - 9-6-2007 at 11:16 AM

Before we moved to SF - we made several trips in & out with 7 dogs - always had all papers - only asked once - but they did'nt really look at them cause the dogs were going nuts !!!!!!!!! We buy brand name dog food here at the vets

Cypress - 9-6-2007 at 12:26 PM

I'd leave Fido at home if possible, unless he/she's a desert dog that's wise to all the hazards. :spingrin:

Mexitron - 9-6-2007 at 03:57 PM

In So. Calif. Coyotes tended to run in large packs and I'd heard stories of domestic dogs, even large ones, being preyed upon(come to think of it, I actually rescued a large Chocolate Lab from only two Coyotes that were going after it--this in plain day by UCI!)...in Baja the packs don't seem to be so large, probably because of limited resources, but was wondering if anyone has seen the Coyotes going after dogs in Baja in the same manner. We have a medium sized dog--Emily Zapata--that we'd love to bring with us to the outback but............

Paulina - 9-6-2007 at 04:16 PM

Our experiences with coyotes in Bahia:

Usually in the evening times we've had one lone coyote come close to camp, and yip almost playfully as if to lure our dog away. At the same time we can see other glowing eyes waiting a little further out in the desert.

In the summer we sleep outside, up on a deck above our trailer. We put up a baby gate to keep our dog up there with us after we fall asleep. We've been awake and watched coyotes come onto the patio below us, assuming they are looking for water. One went inside of our trailer and drug a 25 lb bag of dog kibble to the door of the trailer and ever so quietly helped himself.

One morning this past summer we awoke early to see two coyotes down on the beach playing with each other, almost like a game of tag. We watched them for quite awhile, the wind was blowing towards us so they didn't smell us. They were in the water, running up and down the sand bank. It was cool watch.

[Edited on 6-9-2007 by Paulina]

toneart - 9-6-2007 at 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Mexitron
In So. Calif. Coyotes tended to run in large packs and I'd heard stories of domestic dogs, even large ones, being preyed upon(come to think of it, I actually rescued a large Chocolate Lab from only two Coyotes that were going after it--this in plain day by UCI!)...in Baja the packs don't seem to be so large, probably because of limited resources, but was wondering if anyone has seen the Coyotes going after dogs in Baja in the same manner. We have a medium sized dog--Emily Zapata--that we'd love to bring with us to the outback but............

I wouldn't worry about coyotes if you are a responsible dog owner. Mine is well trained and will not venture far without me. He will always respond to my commands. There was a small coyote in the back of my yard the day before yesterday, here in Nevada City. My dog started to chase it and I called him off. The coyote, I think, went over the edge of a sheer drop into the canyon. I saw dust down below.

I have heard of dogs being lured by coyotes in Borrego Springs, CA. They send a female in heat to lure them out and away from the campsight. Then the pack pounces. I guess they would do that to a big dog if they were hungry enough, which is most of the time. The dogs I heard about that got zapped were the typical little yappy RV dogs.
Hey-y-y....maybe Leona Helmsly's brother ought to liberate her little hairball, "Trouble" that way. NO! that's sick! :no:

DENNIS - 9-6-2007 at 04:21 PM

Coyote familys are abundant in my immediate area. They kai-yi in concert throughout the night. I've approached them to within a distance of 70 feet. Face to face. Although they have huge fear of humans, they sometimes feel the need to confront their fears.

DianaT - 9-6-2007 at 04:21 PM

Our dogs love Baja. The big one does interact with local dogs, the little one chases them all off.

A few months ago, the US was asking about dog food---they checked and since ours was not bought in Mexico, they let us go---only happened once and that was at Otay.

We watch them carefully for Coyotes, and we also gave our dogs rattle snake training plus they have been vacinated to help with a possible snake bite----we are 100 miles from any type of Vet.

Have fun, and please when staying a a hotel that accepts dogs, do be very respectful---no dogs on the bed. We always take flannel sheets to cover the beds to protect against flying hair and we use fabreeze to help with any left over odor.

Diane

[Edited on 9-6-2007 by jdtrotter]

Mexitron - 9-6-2007 at 08:04 PM

Thanks for the responses on the Coyotes, good info to know. Dennis--when we're camping on remote beaches we've woken up with Coyote prints right by our sleeping bags, so they don't seem to be too interested in us--just looking for food scraps...if one was rabid that could quickly change though!

Marie-Rose - 9-6-2007 at 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Paulina
Our experiences with coyotes in Bahia:

Usually in the evening times we've had one lone coyote come close to camp, and yip almost playfully as if to lure our dog away. At the same time we can see other glowing eyes waiting a little further out in the desert.

When we were camping at La Perla we had the same thing happen with our our Mexican mutt. The coyote's were staying close as Rosa(proprieter) had a sick goat they were after. Paloma was out in the desert with one of the guys, doing their "morning constitution" thing and she took to chasing the coyote away but having lived on the desert she instantly sensed the group that were waiting in the hills and turned away. It could have been trouble. :wow:

JDTrotter-Help please

frizkie - 9-6-2007 at 11:31 PM

Could you PLEASE PLEASE tell me about rattlesnake training. That is one thing that I have always worried about.
My dogs are trained not to touch puffers, but in October & November and then in April there are a lot of rattlers in my area in LosCabos near Santiago, and I have a couple of dogs that will hunt down and chase everything.
:rolleyes:

Thank you

SunBums - 9-7-2007 at 12:15 AM

Daisy Mae and us thank you for all the useful ( and humorus ...) advice.

We have traveled in mexico but never with a dog..babysitters anybody?

Thanks

SunBums

Jack Swords - 9-7-2007 at 06:03 AM

We have had our dog with us the past 9 years all over Baja for 5 months each year. As far as dog friendly hotels, Don Gus in Guerrero Negro has NOT allowed dogs the past two years. There is a big sign in the office stating "NO DOGS". They don't get our business now. There are other places in GN. Also, the very dog-friendly Hacienda de Cortez (Engleberts) in La Paz no longer exists. Mange does seem to be common among street dogs and we have participated in some rescues that require treatment. We try to keep our dog away from those affected. Recently we were informed that dogs are not allowed on the Malecon (except street dogs, I guess). We have been asked for the International Health Certificate twice. Our vet charges $20 in the US, our La Paz vet charges $8. When we flew from La Paz to Guaymas, they would not give us our dog until we produced the certificate. I'd rather pay the small fee (like insurance) for the certificate than have to turn around in TJ or Tecate and find a vet.

Fritzkie

bajaguy - 9-7-2007 at 06:54 AM

Check your u2u re: snake avoidance training

Mango - 9-7-2007 at 09:12 AM

If you take your dog to Mexico, make sure it's tough enough to roll with the urban dogs too.

toneart - 9-7-2007 at 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords
We have had our dog with us the past 9 years all over Baja for 5 months each year. As far as dog friendly hotels, Don Gus in Guerrero Negro has NOT allowed dogs the past two years. There is a big sign in the office stating "NO DOGS". They don't get our business now. There are other places in GN. Also, the very dog-friendly Hacienda de Cortez (Engleberts) in La Paz no longer exists. Mange does seem to be common among street dogs and we have participated in some rescues that require treatment. We try to keep our dog away from those affected. Recently we were informed that dogs are not allowed on the Malecon (except street dogs, I guess). We have been asked for the International Health Certificate twice. Our vet charges $20 in the US, our La Paz vet charges $8. When we flew from La Paz to Guaymas, they would not give us our dog until we produced the certificate. I'd rather pay the small fee (like insurance) for the certificate than have to turn around in TJ or Tecate and find a vet.

Uh-oh! If dogs are not allowed on the Malecon in La Paz on leashes, then I will not go to La Paz. I always take plastic bags and clean up after my dog. I have never had anybody object to him walking with me. I love La Paz! I go there every year. My dog is always with me. La Paz will lose my business, its restaurants will lose my business, The Dock will lose my business, the RV parks will lose my business....well, that can be exponential when I and other responsible dog owners boycott La Paz. I will pass on the warning.

It will be difficult for me emotionally, but it is very easy to bypass La Paz on my way to Las Barrilles, where I have reservations. I can also get down to Cabo and visit Judy's book store. I'll just spend more time & $$ in those towns.

Sorry, Jesse. Your restaurant(I do leave my dog in the RV while eating out at night) was something I was really looking forward to. It was #1 on my list. And I wanted to meet you too. :mad:

[Edited on 9-7-2007 by toneart]

DianaT - 9-7-2007 at 10:59 AM

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Originally posted by frizkie
Could you PLEASE PLEASE tell me about rattlesnake training. That is one thing that I have always worried about.
My dogs are trained not to touch puffers, but in October & November and then in April there are a lot of rattlers in my area in LosCabos near Santiago, and I have a couple of dogs that will hunt down and chase everything.
:rolleyes:

Thank you

In Southern California there is a trainer, Patrick Callahan who does this training in several locations every year. His web site Patrick Callahan

It involves the use of a shock collar with which I had a very difficult time. But they assured me it did not really hurt the dog. And, IMHO, it is better than a snake bite! I know some say a dog will survive a bite, and I have known some who did, and some who did not survive.

It really worked with our big dog----he is now very cautious. Our little dog may need another session. Don't know if there is a similar training where you live.

Our Vet told us the vaccine helps---she uses it on her dogs, but it is not the final answer.

Good Luck.
Diane

Paulina - 9-7-2007 at 11:24 AM

Diane,

I was wondering how the anti-rattlesnake training went. When Bajaguy said to check u2u I was sure that it must be something secret, not open to public knowledge...so I let my imagination get the best of me.

I had visions of how I would go about training our dog Cora...She is a Lizard hunter. From the moment she jumps out of the truck until time to go to back to the States she pounces on bushes, turns over rocks, upsets piles of wood, all in hopes of scaring out the unsuspecting lizard. We worry about her hopping on a rattlesnake one of these days. We stop her when we catch her, but it's a constant behavior. She even does it north of the border.

So in my sick mind I imagined the next time I find a dead rattler, or have the reason to kill one myself (as we did this summer), after chopping off the head, I'd let her get a good sniff of it then chase her around with it, winging it in circles over my head like a lasso, scaring the heck out of her so she'd know they were bad, or I was crazy, one of the two. Usually if we tell her, "This is NO!" in a big voice it works, so I might add that to my anti-rattler sessions with her. I'd put it into a ziplock and keep it in the cooler to bring out when she least expected it, or resumed pouncing on bushes, until just the sight of it gets the message across.

I haven't hit Dern up with the idea yet.

P<*)))><

toneart - 9-7-2007 at 11:34 AM

Can anyone in La Paz confirm the statement by Jack Swords' report that "no dogs allowed on the Malecon"? I am very upset by this. (see post above)

DianaT - 9-7-2007 at 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Paulina
Diane,

I was wondering how the anti-rattlesnake training went. When Bajaguy said to check u2u I was sure that it must be something secret, not open to public knowledge...so I let my imagination get the best of me.

I had visions of how I would go about training our dog Cora...She is a Lizard hunter. From the moment she jumps out of the truck until time to go to back to the States she pounces on bushes, turns over rocks, upsets piles of wood, all in hopes of scaring out the unsuspecting lizard. We worry about her hopping on a rattlesnake one of these days. We stop her when we catch her, but it's a constant behavior. She even does it north of the border.

So in my sick mind I imagined the next time I find a dead rattler, or have the reason to kill one myself (as we did this summer), after chopping off the head, I'd let her get a good sniff of it then chase her around with it, winging it in circles over my head like a lasso, scaring the heck out of her so she'd know they were bad, or I was crazy, one of the two. Usually if we tell her, "This is NO!" in a big voice it works, so I might add that to my anti-rattler sessions with her. I'd put it into a ziplock and keep it in the cooler to bring out when she least expected it, or resumed pouncing on bushes, until just the sight of it gets the message across.

I haven't hit Dern up with the idea yet.

P<*)))><

You MUST take pictures of your training session. :lol:

Callahan used live snakes either muzzled or defanged. Our vet thinks it may be cruel to the snakes----but she really loves ALL animals.

It is three snake training---one in the open, one without a rattle, and one hidden in a bag.

Now, I just can't recommend you running around swinging a living rattlesnake ---also, it might not like the cooler.

Diane

paulina

bajaguy - 9-7-2007 at 12:42 PM

Not a secret, just didn't want to clutter up the board/post with my reply.

Our lab Libbie (AKA: Flan Breath) is also a lizard hunter, but stays away from snakes or snake look alikes....

[Edited on 9-7-2007 by bajaguy]

DENNIS - 9-7-2007 at 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Paulina
I haven't hit Dern up with the idea yet.

P<*)))><

You mean, Dern is in need of some training?

Jack Swords - 9-7-2007 at 01:17 PM

Take a look at Jesse's post on 8-28-07 re: La Paz Malecon. We are not there now, and cannot confirm Jesse's post. I agree that it will have a negative effect on many folks (tourists) who walk the beautiful malecon with their leashed dog. I just don't see how they can enforce it with all the street dogs. Come cruising season (Oct/Nov through May) it will be interesting how people respond to this and the banning of bicycles too. We are just waiting to see what happens when we get down for the winter. Maybe Jesse has more information.

toneart - 9-7-2007 at 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords
Take a look at Jesse's post on 8-28-07 re: La Paz Malecon. We are not there now, and cannot confirm Jesse's post. I agree that it will have a negative effect on many folks (tourists) who walk the beautiful malecon with their leashed dog. I just don't see how they can enforce it with all the street dogs. Come cruising season (Oct/Nov through May) it will be interesting how people respond to this and the banning of bicycles too. We are just waiting to see what happens when we get down for the winter. Maybe Jesse has more information.

Thanks, Jack.
I did just read Jesse's past post. Maybe the city is talking about the stray dog population. Maybe I will test it this winter. Is it a new law? Do they have signs posted? Can the strays read Spanish?

frizkie - 9-7-2007 at 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Check your u2u re: snake avoidance training

Thanks so much for this info re rattlesnake training. Great Stuff!!

I have taken my dogs to Baja driving from Victoria BC Canada to Baja Sur every year and back for ten or so years and they have never had a problem.
I make sure they have ALL their shots up to date and I give them Advantix and heartworm medication during the six months I am in Baja. I feed them the Raw Meat diet (BARF..that's the name of the diet...stands for Bones and Raw Foods) so I never have any hassels with being able to get them good healthy "au natural" dog food. They are very healthy.
One is a Baja rescue - Chihuahua, PePito- one is a rescue from Venezuela, Jose - and one is a Miniature Pinscher from Vancouver, Julio....They are all small male dogs with big attitudes and there has never been a problem with any Mexican dogs or diseases. They most often make friends with all the dogs they meet and the ones that don't want to be friendly they chase away.
They are tough little "bugs" full of love. :bounce:

They have never once picked up any kind of disease or bug in all of our travels. Well, maybe a few fleas now and again when running through a place where alot of beach dogs have been hangin'..I just combed them out right there and then...All three are short haired dogs which also helps.

I also have picked up and rescued many "sure to be soon dead dogs" and had them living with us until I could nurse them back to health and find them a good home. So they have had lots of close contact to sick dogs..I don't know, maybe I have just been lucky.

I say, "Take your dogs along with you every chance you get, they make the trip so much more fun!!!" And they are always good protection no matter what size they are.

Feliz Viaje Perros

mtgoat666 - 9-8-2007 at 07:05 AM

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just because the locals strays are loose on the malaecon does not mean your pampered gringo pooch deserves to be on the malaecon. my dog only goes where appropriate -- and he stays home when not appropriate. you dog-fanatics should learn to leave your dog home when you go tot he malaecon, and buck up and live by the rules without whining. it's not the end of the world if your dog can't go to the malecon. really, it's not.

Bob and Susan - 9-8-2007 at 07:23 AM

what??? notice dogs CAN'T spell :lol:

[Edited on 9-8-2007 by Bob and Susan]

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bajajudy - 9-8-2007 at 07:42 AM

We always travel with hydrogen peroxide. If your dog eats a puffer fish, force a teaspoon of it down his/her throat and they will throw up and hopefully get rid of the poison. Of course it works for anything they eat that looks suspect to you.

As for coyotes, we were in Laguna San Ignacio a few years back and I asked someone why there were not dogs around. They told me that the coyotes send out a pup, who will play with your dog(no one can resist a puppy, right) and lead him back to the pack where he is immediately killed.

My dogs stay on leashes when we travel because they are not as well trained as Toneart's.

Jack Swords - 9-8-2007 at 07:47 AM

Commenting on a new ordinance in La Paz (our home city for 1/2 the year) does not make one a "dog-fanatic" nor one who takes their dog to inappropriate places. The purpose of this board is to inform folks and "discuss" items relative to Baja. That's all that is significant to these postings. To imply that folks discussing relative new rules are "fanatics" is out-of-line and cannot help but create a chilling effect on further postings. Lots of changes are happening in La Paz, some good, some not. Being informed, or being an informer, does not necessarily make one an advocate nor a "whiner". It is simply creating awareness of a change, nothing more, nothing less.

DianaT - 9-8-2007 at 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
We always travel with hydrogen peroxide. If your dog eats a puffer fish, force a teaspoon of it down his/her throat and they will throw up and hopefully get rid of the poison. Of course it works for anything they eat that looks suspect to you.

Thanks for that idea! :yes:

Diane

toneart - 9-8-2007 at 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords
Commenting on a new ordinance in La Paz (our home city for 1/2 the year) does not make one a "dog-fanatic" nor one who takes their dog to inappropriate places. The purpose of this board is to inform folks and "discuss" items relative to Baja. That's all that is significant to these postings. To imply that folks discussing relative new rules are "fanatics" is out-of-line and cannot help but create a chilling effect on further postings. Lots of changes are happening in La Paz, some good, some not. Being informed, or being an informer, does not necessarily make one an advocate nor a "whiner". It is simply creating awareness of a change, nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you for your support Jack. You wouldn't expect a "goat" (the one who made the post that Jack is referencing) to appreciate dogs, anyway.

This "whiner dog fanatic" doesn't live in La Paz. When he is on the road, his dog is at home on the road. It is too hot to leave him enclosed in a vehicle. You can't leave him unattended in an RV park. He also needs exercise. What better place to walk him,when in La Paz, than on the Malecon?

As stated before, I am a responsible dog owner. When in a town, my dog is always on leash and I always carry plastic bags to pick up after him. Sure, some dog owners are irresponsible, but I doubt you would see them allowing their dog to crap on the Malecon, with people around, and not pick it up. It is probably not the gringos' dogs who are leaving the messes. Thus, a dog ban for the Malecon only serves to cause people to not come to La Paz. I am upset because I love La Paz. I have photographed the malecon, its sculptures and its waterfront extensively. I have used these photos in published articles on Art in Mexico.

As for Lencho viewing my post as a Knee slapper, OK, consider this: I bought ALL my furniture in La Paz, and then did it all over again after it got ruined in the Mulege flood last year.

In my post which Lencho found so funny, I suggested that I will not be spending my travel money in La Paz. I would venture to say that, when word gets around, anybody with dogs will not (can not) visit La Paz. Of course, "city hall" could care less about missing my spending, but I also used the word "exponential". So, it is not delusionary to think that word would spread.....and the effect on the economy of La Paz would be....well.....exponential.

It is also reasonable to expect that, given the slow down in the U.S. economy, fewer people will be visiting Baja. Wouldn't you think an intelligent business community would try and retain business that it could have? Indirectly, I was wishing that Jesse, or another Mexican National with good standing in the business community would try and get the dog ban rescinded. Gee, I guess I won't get to meet my fellow Nomad Lencho either.

Jack Swords - 9-8-2007 at 01:29 PM

Don't be too hard on Lencho (Larry). He's a good guy with a sense of humor. If you get to La Paz between Dec and May, look us up in Marina de La Paz. We'll get Larry down and have a couple of beers. You'd like him. Larry: I'm up for that Presa/La Paz hike when it cools off.

toneart

DianaT - 9-8-2007 at 01:39 PM

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As stated before, I am a responsible dog owner. When in a town, my dog is always on leash and I always carry plastic bags to pick up after him. Sure, some dog owners are irresponsible, but I doubt you would see them allowing their dog to crap on the Malecon, with people around, and not pick it up.

Now if could just get the street dogs to carry plastic poop bags. :lol:

Seriously, irresponsible dog owners make it worse for all of us---especially in hotels.

This new law does make us more reluctant to visit La Paz. Love the Malecon, but can't leave the dogs in the room or in the car.

Diane

toneart - 9-8-2007 at 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jack Swords
Don't be too hard on Lencho (Larry). He's a good guy with a sense of humor. If you get to La Paz between Dec and May, look us up in Marina de La Paz. We'll get Larry down and have a couple of beers. You'd like him. Larry: I'm up for that Presa/La Paz hike when it cools off.

OK, Jack.
I realize that Larry's humor was more directed at his sense of futility for my boycott. It did stir me to feel the need to go on and on and on and on and on. I will definately look you up at the marina if I go there. :yes:

toneart - 9-8-2007 at 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter

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Now if could just get the street dogs to carry plastic poop bags. :lol:

Bingo!.....another no Ka-ching! :yes:

From what I can understand

bajajudy - 9-13-2007 at 09:16 AM

no one is enforcing the doggy laws
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n416745.htm

[Edited on 9-13-2007 by bajajudy]

Mango - 9-13-2007 at 08:53 PM

Ok..another minor hijack..I couldn't resist.

Some street dogs from Guanajuato.

wakemall - 9-13-2007 at 09:19 PM

Have the paperwork from the vet and everything will be fine.... My dog actually got away bitting three people in one trip. Maybe this is why I can cross the border at 0300. The check points even leave me alone when they try and search the four door f-250.

I think this just gave me the answer to crossing the border in the early AM. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better. Maybe we found a new purpose for Vick's dogs before they get euthonized.... HAAAAA

Sharksbaja - 9-13-2007 at 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by wakemall
My dog actually got away bitting three people in one trip. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better. Maybe we found a new purpose for Vick's dogs before they get euthonized.... HAAAAA

Now there's something to brag about!! :lol:

wakemall - 9-13-2007 at 11:08 PM

The sad part is two of the people were my mexican friends.... The other was Pinada in Loreto. Capn.Sharky was sitting next to me during lunch when that happened...

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toneart - 9-14-2007 at 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by wakemall
Have the paperwork from the vet and everything will be fine.... My dog actually got away bitting three people in one trip. Maybe this is why I can cross the border at 0300. The check points even leave me alone when they try and search the four door f-250.

I think this just gave me the answer to crossing the border in the early AM. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better. Maybe we found a new purpose for Vick's dogs before they get euthonized.... HAAAAA

This is why rules against dogs are made. They ruin it for the rest of us.

Don Alley - 9-14-2007 at 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by wakemall
The sad part is two of the people were my mexican friends.... The other was Pinada in Loreto. Capn.Sharky was sitting next to me during lunch when that happened...

[Edited on 9-14-2007 by wakemall]

[Edited on 9-14-2007 by wakemall]

Are you saying your dog bit Javier Pineda?
:lol:

wakemall - 9-14-2007 at 10:38 PM

Yepppppp......

Sharksbaja - 9-14-2007 at 11:16 PM

Tell ya what there dogmiester. If you're ever in the neighborhood with Fido,don't look us up.

Paulina - 9-23-2007 at 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by wakemall

....I think this just gave me the answer to crossing the border in the early AM. Leave the windows down allowing the dog to stick his face out and bark at everything intrusive????????????????? The bigger and nastier the dog the better....

Is this dog big enough? This is an English Mastiff, 18 mo. old, 37" at the shoulder, 255 lbs. I've have enjoyed the benefit of owning two of them in my lifetime and am seriously thinking about doing it again (if I can convince Dern). The advantages my Mastiff's afforded me in Baja was the peace of mind I had traveling alone with my kids and knowing that no one was going to attempt to come close if they weren't personally invited. The worst thing was putting up with the the 'how many tacos can I make out of your dog' question, but other than that, they were both worth their weight in gold to me. I also had a Bullmastiff, she was 180 lbs full grown, and served the same purpose, but not as intimidating right off the bat as "Rhubarb" and "Sally" were.

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Roberto - 9-23-2007 at 06:19 PM

Paulina - beautiful dog. I have never had personal experiences with one, but a girlfriend, back in the old country had one of these Mastino Napoletano (Neapolitan Mastiff):

Not quite as big as 255 lbs, but close. His name was Nerone (Nero). A sweetheart of a dog. Noone would even come close, invited or not, unless they knew what they were dealing with, and few did/do. Here's another picture of the same breed as a puppy.

Supposedly, these dogs were bred by the Roman legions and were war dogs - they went into battle with their owners. :wow:

Needless to say, the are EXTREMELY protective of their family. :cool:

Paulina - 9-23-2007 at 06:53 PM

Roberto,

The Neapolitan Mastiff is a beautiful dog as well. I've only seen a few of them in person, and although they are not as big as the English Mastiff, they can be even more impressive because of their wrinkles and the 'mean' look on their face as a result of their wrinkles. I would get the same response to my bulldogs face and he was a sweetheart (most of the time).

The Mastiff breed is as you said, EXTREMELY protective, so it is imperative that they are properly socialized as puppies. Our Mastiff Rhubarb grew up going to Mexico and was friendly when it was appropriate, but always put himself between me, or the kids with who ever we were talking to. He liked Pepe Smith, and even went fishing with us on Doc's Gecko 1, but he had a dislike for Doc's helper Daniel, as well as Felipe the mechanic in town.

The dogs know their size and don't have a tendency to bite, but to head butt. Rhubarb did head butt a few people onto their butts when they got too close to me and the kids on the beach in town.

One time a car pulled up to the trailers, parking right in what we considered our beach 'front yard' and proceeded to have a make out session. Not appropriate for the time and situation, me alone with my two young kids. I walked out to make it obvious that this was not the right spot, obviously not making any difference to the lovers...so I let Rhubarb go investigate. ( I would usually put him on a lunge line when I heard someone coming) He ran up to the drivers side window, which was eye level to him, and started sniffing and rubbing his teeth and gums all over the glass while trying to sniff the people out.

The look on that mans face was to die for! It wasn't as "in your face" as it was when he was looking at me, it was more like "What the hell is that!!??" He started up that car and couldn't get it into reverse fast enough. I called off Rhubarb and never had any problems the rest of the trip.

Here's the AKC link to the Neo if anyone is interested:

http://www.akc.org/breeds/neapolitan_mastiff/index.cfm

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Paulina - 9-23-2007 at 07:07 PM

I hope I'm not hijacking this thread too much, but another amusing time with Rhubarb was at a military check point. I always warned the guys not to open the back without me, as I had "un Pero Grande" back there. When I lifted the lid to the shell they were shocked, and the look on their faces when they saw Rhubarb, too much!

All inspections stopped at that point and EVERY ONE of the military guys had to come and look at him. Then after Rhubarb was comfortable the men took turns posing at the back of the truck with their machine guns out, kneeling below his huge body as he leaned out of the truck, while passing around a disposable camera. The military guys were taking photos of each other making tough faces with their guns, and Rhubarb's head right above theirs, and much bigger than theirs. Too funny. I didn't get searched, they all shook my hand and sent me and the kids on our way.

The only time anyone ever threatened to shoot my dog was an inspector on the American side, but I've already told that story.

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toneart - 9-23-2007 at 11:44 PM

Dogs give us much joy! Especially if you give them good obedience training and socialize them with people and other dogs when they are around six months old. People who don't like dogs are really missing out. They are, however, a big responsibility...and should be considered as such. There is a lot to consider before committing to owning a dog; training, time to spend with them, medical attention, willingness to exercise them and space enough for them to run and be dogs.

Oh yes....you must be willing to pick up their poop. Above all, you can't allow them to bark incessantly and/or bother people. People who aren't responsible make it difficult for the rest of us.

[Edited on 9-24-2007 by toneart]

Bajafun777 - 9-24-2007 at 12:09 AM

I have a boxer that had pups and took them across and back in Mexicali without any problems. Had their paperwork to show their shots but never asked for them. I have a Vet over there that saved this boxer's life when on the 4th of July the fireworks started in Brawley and through the fence and down the road the boxer went. I found her 5 days later after my son put an ad in the newspaper offering a reward. Someone called and said they saw what appeared to be a boxer in a vegetable field near my house. Went to the area calling out the boxer's name and sure enough out she came but with a badly broken leg. I had to call this Vet as the local one in Brawley wanted me to take this dog all the way to San Diego and she was in too much pain. He wanted me to agree to spend $5,000 on an operation for the dog's leg. The Vet in Mexico had to put a rod in and keep the dog for two days before my son and I could go get her. Well, the dog lived and all worked out well. Oh, by the way the cost was $275 dollars and he even saw her again to take the rod out. This dog runs like a rabbit and has totally over came this injury. Again , Mexicali Border check with Mexico and U.S. not a problem with dogs. Later------- bajafun777

BCSTech - 9-24-2007 at 07:11 AM

Gotta admit, the checkpoints go a lot faster when Timmy is in the car. At 45 lbs, he's not that big but he really doesn't like it when people get too close to the car and looks the part.

They often just wave us through, sometimes after asking me if he bites. Fact is, he's never bitten anyone but I just tell them he doesn't like strangers and that's usually enough. Here he is in the back of my truck with one of our other girls behind him..

Fact is, the trip down the Baja is more enjoyable when my buddy is travelling with me. He makes me get out and walk around more than I would normally. I also don't worry about the car getting broken into.

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toneart - 9-24-2007 at 09:23 AM

My dog is big but he gives himself away at military checkpoints with his sweet temperament. He wags his tail and wants them to play. When they do ask me, "su perro es bravo?" I say, "only when necessary". Then they back away.

Oso - 9-24-2007 at 05:31 PM

I was once attacked at Camp Gecko by ... Roberto's dog. I took a severe licking and to this day suffer from PTSD (Post Traumatic Slobber Disorder) :lol:

Although my dog Chu is half lab, he is not "aggressively affectionate" like Toby, just aggressive. Unfortunately (or not, depending on circumstance), his Chow side is dominant. He does not usually bark or charge at people, preferring to lie in ambush until people have walked past him, then quietly sever one of their Achilles' Tendons from behind.

I doubt we would ever be allowed to live in an uptight Homeowner's Assoc. controlled ghetto, but then that's the kind of place I go to Mexico to get away from.

Gated Community= Voluntary Prison