BajaNomad - Salt water for fuel?

Salt water for fuel?

Cypress - 9-11-2007 at 06:23 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070910/ap_on_sc/burning_seawate... Amazing!!

Amazing what a little tinkering in the shop can lead to, eh?

djh - 9-11-2007 at 07:29 AM

BajaBruno - 9-11-2007 at 09:05 AM

Another advance in one field is discovered while looking for a solution to something entirely different. These are the things that make science so interesting. It is a pity that US students lag behind most of the world in science education.

Time will tell if the energy created by the "burning" is greater than the energy input from the radio waves. Until then, we can hope.

Gnome-ad - 9-11-2007 at 09:38 AM

I ain't no scientist, but this sounds really exciting! Aren't radio waves a naturally occurring part of the atmosphere, or something? What about Tessla? Some combo of Tessla antennaes and this salt water burning would be a very serious threat to all the oil, gas, coal, etc. conglomerates. Is there a chance in "H" "E" double toothpick (as we used to say) that this will actually go anywhere? :?:

Oh why am I so synical this morning ... :?:

It really is hopeful, though. Especially if it gets enough press coverage that it won't be put in a closet somewhere and hidden with all those other inventive answers that would not line the pockets of folks whose pockets are full already. Yikes! Still synical. Lo siento.

toneart - 9-11-2007 at 09:52 AM

What a great discovery! However, I'm afraid I join Gnome-
ad in her cynicism. It would be a great benefit for mankind, if only that it weren't controlled by mankind.

There is your departure point, Nomads......Have at it!

Stickers - 9-11-2007 at 09:58 AM

It would be great for mankind if it took less energy to burn the water than the energy possible from the hydrogen emitted.

:light:

rpleger - 9-11-2007 at 11:16 AM

Someone could light the oceans on fire!!!!!!

ooh!

Russ - 9-11-2007 at 11:25 AM

Here's a vidio: http://youtube.com/watch?v=h6vSxR6UKFM

toneart - 9-11-2007 at 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rpleger
Someone could light the oceans on fire!!!!!!

ooh!

Another genius thinking out of the box.
Another genie out of the bottle.

Richard, if you combined the bottle with the thinking, you could torch the world.

DENNIS - 9-11-2007 at 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rpleger
Someone could light the oceans on fire!!!!!!

ooh!

I've been told that the Hudson River could burn like an oil-spill.

Hook - 9-11-2007 at 04:04 PM

I'm dying to know what the water related discovery was a hundred years ago that brackets this discovery. You would think it would jump out at me.

WE need Global Warming

The Gull - 9-11-2007 at 05:52 PM

First, we need more salt water. Those pesky ice things at the poles are holding up the formation of more sea water.

Second, we could have more sea water to burn and therefore less carbon emissions to create the global warming.

Third, we would have more global cooling which would require more sea water to be burned.

Then, we (you get the picture doncha?)...

Bedman - 9-11-2007 at 07:53 PM

Here's a copy of the article

ERIE, Pa. - An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen — which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit — would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."

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Information from: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, http://www.post-gazette.com

pappy - 9-11-2007 at 09:33 PM

i recall back in the late 60's, maybe early 70's some guy in the south(U.S.) made a carb that would get something like 60 mpg's. he was paid a fair amount by the "industry" for his invention. end of story...

Bajafun777 - 9-11-2007 at 09:55 PM

This is what Americans do when the chips are down they invent :biggrin:

!! Now if we can get the car makers behind it and use this to power desaltin plants for drinking water to be made the world it would be so so sweet :tumble:

. This would really make the terror raiders and their helper from Saudi eat sand and oil. Just a small grain of salt and the world becomes something so much more, let the good times roll if big business and Uncle Sam don't crush this. Later------bajafun777

Iflyfish - 9-11-2007 at 10:08 PM

Fascinating topic! Thanks for sharing this with us.

Iflyfish

QuePasaBaja - 9-13-2007 at 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bajafun777
This is what Americans do when the chips are down they invent :biggrin:

!! Now if we can get the car makers behind it and use this to power desaltin plants for drinking water to be made the world it would be so so sweet :tumble:

Rent the movie " Who Killed the Electric Car "

It wont happen any time soon.