Stopped at Bob and Susan's Today

All true. But, they won't let OUR furry friends to stay there. Unfortunately, that takes them out of the running, regardless of how much I'd like to stay there.

I think I understand why they do that, but I think there are other solutions, especially on the scale they are operating at.

Not a criticism, just my opinion, and you know what they say about opinions ...

Knowing Bob as I do, I don't think he is worried about losing any business over the issue.

That's pretty much what I figured. In his position, I would have the same perspective. We're back to opinions and everyone having one, just like ... well, you know.

roberto...with your name how cold you have a BAAAD dog????

email for a special exemption

we had one of those

wow I thought paying $5 at EL COYOTE BEACH, was expensive, this prices are over my head.....:loljust having fun Bob&susan)....

I think nobody's interested in guests there. Maybe used more like a giant washing machine, whites only

Discounting the cost of fuel and insurance, we normally spend about forty days in Baja for the price of a minimum stay with Bob and Susan. We're just retired folks with a couple of jobs to augment our income. I guess I'm happy for folks who can afford $1200.00 for three nights in a motel, but that is so far from our reality that it is a little difficult to take it seriously.

It should be noted that these potentially harsh comments are coming from someone who is currently reading a lot about the Zen principles of "right livlihood".

My business is not based on charging as much as I can get away with, but how little I can charge and still make an acceptable profit. My clients get the responsible, accountable, authentic man I am, complete with the ready smile, at an obviously competitive price. I really like it that way even if I can't afford to stay at Playa Frambes.


These are just MY judgements.

Could It Be In Peso's?

Yes,!!!! However there are the penthouse hotel suites that rent for up to $ 30.000 per night in some swank hotels around the world, which ,in this case, makes it all relevant.

And... who wouldn't rather be in Baja

[Edited on 11-22-2007 by vandenberg]

welcome everyone to 2007

sorry...last week from thursday to sunday FULL!!!

week before one couple for a week...
they were happy
they had an entire resort to themselves

some people are tired of dirty dingy noisy places.

some people lke a NICE vacation without "suffering"
they want something a little beter than home
i do

my neighbor has rentals for $35 a nite
clean and rustic
on the beach
you'd like it

if no one comes no one comes
if they do they will leave happy and relaxed


fishbuck so you think you can rent a million dollar house for $100 a night

[Edited on 11-23-2007 by Bob and Susan]

Why should Bob have to be a good sport about someone trashing his business ?
Just because you feel like being rude and telling us how cheap you are ?
Someone in Asuncion told me Fishbuck was a nice guy.
Will you have the same nasty things to say when rates go up there, as well ?
.

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Originally posted by Diver Why should Bob have to be a good sport about someone trashing his business ? Just because you feel like being rude and telling us how cheap you are ? Someone in Asuncion told me Fishbuck was a nice guy. Will you have the same nasty things to say when rates go up there, as well ? .

Much better explanation, thank you.
But just wait until I open my fancy lodgings in Asuncion !!

fishbuck...its ok to think...
and i dont think you're trashing anything

you belive the price is too high...
and that's fine
you're just living in the past EXACTLY like i do ALL the time!!!

campers...camp
rver's ....fancy camp
(and those rvs arn not cheap$$$)
but
there is a market that has "some vacation money" and
wants a "little" luxury while
they spend their "little vacation time" in baja

some wives won't camp in the dirt
or
they are tired of bugs falling from a palapa roof
or
they are just tired of lving out of a metal box

we did ALL this for years....

this NEW target group wants...

fresh towels and soap daily...

a shower with HOT water

a nice cook to cook breakfast in a CLEAN kitchen
so the wife can "take a real vacation"
no dishes

robes to "strool" around in the morning with coffee in their hand

a clean "fresh-water" pool like at home
(and they'll probably be ALL alone in the pool)

wireless internet
(these guys have blackberries and laptops)
kayaks (we have 5)
sailing
snorkeling
hiking
biking

a fishing guide that will pick them up and
drop them off right out front on the beach

safe parking for their truck and boat
and...
a hose with real water pressure to "flush" the engine


sorry fishbuck ...
you dont get this at a $35 a day motel
and you shouldn't

i LOVE paying $28
for a room on the road but
I bring my own bedding
and wear flip flops in the shower
sometimes
i have to take the bedding back to get clean sheets!!!

then the bed...that something else

well... end or rant...

fishbuck... come and visit
have a beer on top of the lighthouse...
and
for sure stay next door
clean...rustic...and on the beach $10 to $35 a day
its REALLY nice!!!!

remember if you're a 1000 feet away you MUST visit

"Capt Mike, I make it a rule to never disagree with another pilot. Especially one with as many Baja hours as you.
I sure do miss the old Hotel Chivato though. It was good enough for me the way it was. "

yeah, me too!
you should read my rants on the BBP board back when the italians took it over. the price jump from $65 to $175 a nite was the end of flying sams staying there 2 nites a month after 10 years!

Okay guys... relax a bit!

Bob and Susan have been working very hard and shared that work with us here for a long time. It is THEIR business, so it is their choice on what kind of customers they want to serve... If the price is too high to get enough customers, then they can drop the price if they want.

The point is that Baja has something for everyone, and a little bit more. So, pick and choose your 'cup-of-tea'...

If you want to turn this into a discussion on business ethics, then a new thread may be in order. I personally like what Vgabndo had to say, and that is pretty much how I am in business... and also, perhaps why I am not 'rich'!

Good luck to Bob and Susan... best wishes... and a Baja Nomad member discount will always be welcome by the gang here!!

Well Minnow,
after that endorsment you almost make me leave my simple abode to have a look/see what all this fuzz is about.
At least from my local we don't have to run "the gauntlet"

And, after sampling one of Bob's famous margaritas, maybe even able to get back home to my own bed, a king with pillowtopped mattress I might add.

[Edited on 11-23-2007 by vandenberg]

this is a GREAT discussion

i LOVE this stuff!!!!

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan this is a GREAT discussion i LOVE this stuff!!!!

You ought to. Can't get any better free advertising

You can't keep this story to yourself
And if you need any help putting your thoughts and experiences in writing, I suggest using Gnukid as a ghost writer.
Waiting with anticipation......

If I recall right, it was the Michelin guide that started assigning stars to restaurants and accomodations around the world. The star giving has gotten a little out of hand with every hotel and motel in the world assigning themselves stars. Loreto's hotel/motel guide has very few establishments below a ( their own ) 4 star rating. Most of them I wouldn't let my dog stay in. Hard to believe that one would rate his/hers establishment on the same level as the Waldorf or a penthouse suite in Vegas. Most of them in Baja can't even compare themselves with a motel 6.
But then again, living in Nopolo, I have to listen to the folks staying in the 5 star Loreto Bay Inn. Whatever floats your boat

WHEEL OF FORTUNE ,here we come

My opinion is you are a marooon.

Nomads,
Baja appeals to and attracts a wide range of people....some wealthy and some not, some who wear white knee socks in their sandals and some who are comfortable with sand between their toes.

I see nothing wrong with being poor or cheap, and nothing wrong with being wealthy (wish I was ). Both categories of folks can be jerks or gracious.

Mexico doesn't offer the great deals of a few years ago as readily, but I would guess that most Nomads who spend most of their time in Baja are there because of the expense factor (less expensive than north of the border), and not just the "lay of the land".

Baja and other parts of "rustic" Mexico are being overtaken by a grab for tourist dollars and by the wealthy folks who buy, develop, and drive up land costs (sometimes displacing locals and sometimes creating more employment opportunities).

I also appreciate Vag's comments as they also reflect my values....and that's just my personal thing.

Bob and Susan have apparently put a lot of energy and money into their business...I wish them luck. I can't afford that way of travelling or vacationing....I sometimes go to the expensive places to have a look, a drink, a swim ....or at least until the evil eye makes me leave ...

And you know....the robes these expensive places have just don't fit ....so I lounge around in my shorts and t-shirt with my killer marg, smoke, and view to the rest of the day.

Free beer .....about $10

Free breakfast....about $3.00

the other $387 to spend as I want....priceless

Come now....

djh,
I, for one, totally disagree with you. This thread has created quite an interest in Bob and Susan's place, which paid advertising can't match

And the negative comments won't, in any way, keep their kind of clientel ( well to do ) away from their digs.
If you pay attention to the ad campaigns on TV you should know what I mean. Some make you swear to never, never, never buy that item in a hundred years
But it works

opinions are like what ?

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Originally posted by Roberto Quote: Originally posted by CaboRon My opinion is these prices Stink.!!!!!! - CaboRon My opinion is you are a marooon.

uh oh

pull up a chair and get ready, could get ugly !

Thumbs up to Bob and Susan! They have a beautiful place and are neat people. Enjoyed a visit with Bob, Susan was busy elsewhere. Regarding the costs for a stay there, they really don't care whether you stay with 'em or not. I sorta get the idea they'd just as soon sit back and enjoy it all to themselves. You ought to see the view from there lighthouse. By the way, there's a place down the beach you can stay at for $20/night.

One of your most cogent posts Cypress. Have a great trip.

Hey Mom,
Since you're a little money conscious, maybe you should get a ride with " Big John ", in case the accommodations are not what you expected
That way you can always sleep in his van, for next to nothing I might add, and maybe see even more of our Baja then you expected

No offense meant and not " mellow ". My imbibing days are over. Please read my U2U.

On it's way. Should be there by now.

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Originally posted by CaboRon Quote: Originally posted by Roberto Quote: Originally posted by CaboRon My opinion is these prices Stink.!!!!!! - CaboRon My opinion is you are a marooon. Is that your best shot?

No, but anything more would be wasted on you, since you are ... oh yeah (see above). And, you have proven this time and time again, with stupid, senseless, empty comments. Are you going to ask if Bob and Susan's is a secret surf spot?

We agree the morals in the bible are what keep us ALL safe and sane.
Imagine a world without these basic beliefs. WOW!!!

The $100 meal is not uncommon in the states.

If you live in any urbanized location like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, or San Francisco you know what I mean.

Many people make ALOT of money.
They make too much to spend on just basic needs.
The extra money is THEIR disposal income to do with as THEY please.

They contribute to the economy (of the world) by SPENDING “their” DISPOSAL cash.

They indirectly pay for the salary of others, in services, rent, and products.
EVERYONE benefits when a $100 meal is served!!!

When you retire, holding your money in the bank is (IMHO) just foolish.

You worked ALL your life to provide for a comfortable retirement for yourself.
By “penny pinching” YOU suffer in your “golden years”.

Worrying about your future is foolish.
Life is too short…look around!!!

“Smell the Roses”
Enjoy Life
Spend EVERY penny before you “leave”

While you do that…help others…


edit...spelling again

[Edited on 11-25-2007 by Bob and Susan]

Can you top this?

Large cabana with a flusher........ .50 cents per day,1965,no minimum,right in front of PaPa Fernandez casa on the beach

In other words: Bible, Koran or any other religeous fairy tale book thumping, and $ 1.00 get you a cup of coffee at McDonalds

But it sure would help to know when you're leaving
Any suggestions

$47.30. seems a little high to stay at a ROADWAY INN in Yreka, CA . I think you would need to pay me to stay there Yreka, CA is the kind of place you want to get out of, Bobs place is a resort vacation destination.

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech Quote: Originally posted by Barry A. The accomodations etc. sound wonderful------ ------but $200 seems stiff, to me, too. Last night I spent the night in a ROADWAY INN in Yreka, CA with all the amenities we would ever want, or need, for 2 of us and the total bill with tax and everything was $47.30. Last year we had a beautiful room at the Bright Angel Lodge with a full plateglass view of the Grand Canyon from our room, only about 100 feet from the rim, for $205. In July this year we spent the night at the Classic old Yellowstone Inn in a large beautiful room with a view of the geyser basin, overlooking Old Faithful geyser, for $87. Again, everything is relative, I suppose. Barry $47.30. seems a little high to stay at a ROADWAY INN in Yreka, CA . I think you would need to pay me to stay there Yreka, CA is the kind of place you want to get out of, Bobs place is a resort vacation destination.

Heyyyyy-------Yreka is a sports capitol of Northern California, in the summer, anyway. Fishing, river running (Klamath), hunting of all kinds, skiing on Mt. Shasta, beautiful high country with Mt. Shasta looming over all of it, it is really nice country. AND, I never stay in Motel 6's----too primitive even for me, and way too expensive for what you get------but Roadway Inn's have everything you would want in their rooms. But I must confess, even I was surprised at the $47.30 rate---you don't often find a rate that low.

Bob and Susan's place looks outstanding-------I was just pointing out that $200 is a LOT of money for a place to stay, in my opinion-----that's all.

And while I am at it: $100 a plate dinners (that somebody mentioned) are absurd (to me)----I have NEVER paid even close to that much in my 70 years on earth------I would much rather invest that money and use the "returns" to pay for things I REALLY want, and to help others less fortunate----it is not a question of being able to "afford it", it just is the principal of the thing, as somebody else has suggested.

However, I applaud Bob and Susan for following their dream, and they certainly can "charge" anything they want.

barry

Who Gives A........... and you fill in the rest
Comprende

BTW,your signature suggest that you had some run-ins with the law during your life
Is that how you ended up at Espinoza's at 15
Had an early start

[Edited on 11-25-2007 by vandenberg]

[Edited on 11-25-2007 by vandenberg]

some kind of record

2,818 views ? wow ! amazing how a simple topic "stopped by bob & susans" has just taken off in all sorts of directions ! what is the record for views and replies on a post ?
and oh yea, no offense but barry you need to get out more, if you cant relate to a $100 dinner, been car shopping lately ? or how about even fill one up with gas ?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Quote: Originally posted by vandenberg Can someone tell me what the initials "WGAF" stands for? Remember I am just a Junior Nomad in here. Thanks David Who Gives A........... and you fill in the rest Comprende BTW,your signature suggest that you had some run-ins with the law during your life Is that how you ended up at Espinoza's at 15 Had an early start [Edited on 11-25-2007 by vandenberg] [Edited on 11-25-2007 by vandenberg]

Ah so... thanks... that helps when we read your posts, to be able to 'say' your name, even if only in our heads!

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Originally posted by David K Ah so... thanks... that helps when we read your posts, to be able to 'say' your name, even if only in our heads! EL INVESTI 8