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Rosarito Police loose weapons license

fdt - 1-11-2008 at 10:13 PM

The Rosarito Police will no longer have weapons as theire collective license to carry them has been permanently taken away by the Army wich is the one that authorizes permits and the note sais it's because they are the ones responsible for the crimes commited between Tijuana and Ensenada.
Sergio Aponte Polito said that the Rosarito Police are segregated because they are the ones responsible for the majority of the crimes commited as asaults, hijackings and kidnappings between Tijuana and Ensenada.
He also said that the Rosarito Police officers are the ones responsible for protecting the drug pushers.

Wow, all of them, note sais not some but all. :wow:

http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/11012...

BMG - 1-11-2008 at 10:21 PM

I hope this is a positive step in the right direction and not just finding scapegoats. I'll be interested in hearing the reaction from you folks living in that area.

fdt - 1-11-2008 at 10:22 PM

First reaction is :
All of them? Not one good one? :wow:

[Edited on 1-12-2008 by fdt]

BMG - 1-11-2008 at 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
First reaction is :
All of them? Not one god one? :wow:

How large is the Rosarito police force?

Sharksbaja - 1-11-2008 at 10:26 PM

No suprise really. To me it seems that the whole force is in cahoots or responsible one way or another.

Bajafun777 - 1-11-2008 at 10:28 PM

Had a youngman in Rosarito tell me he had went to college and was recurited to be a policeman but after three months he quit as he did not like what was going on. He did not say much other than he wanted to help people and fight crime but that was not happening in Rosarito where he was a policeman. Did not think much of it at the time just thought that maybe he did not like the shift work, long patrols and having to deal with the dirtbags feeding off the weak or old. Maybe he just did not want to be part of a bad thing and having to look in the mirror every morning knowing he was apart of it.. Later---------------------------bajafun777

fdt - 1-11-2008 at 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by BMG

How large is the Rosarito police force?

about 200 or so

BMG - 1-11-2008 at 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by fdt

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Originally posted by BMG

How large is the Rosarito police force?

about 200 or so

Bigger than I thought. It is hard to believe that they are all corrupt but with enough of them in on the illegal activities, it makes it just that much harder for the honest ones to come forward.

Hook - 1-12-2008 at 12:07 AM

If they are all corrupt, it means that the system, i.e., the environment is what is corrupt and that will not change if only the faces are changed. It is a systemic disease, which we all knew anyway.

I applaud the changes that remove their weapons, increase their wages and give those they serve ( the local populace and us turistas) means of alerting indiscretions in something close to real time (the 800 number, whenever it is forthcoming).

Al G - 1-12-2008 at 12:17 AM

I have been saying all along it was the cops doing the hijacking and robberies...but even I thought there were a few honest ones.
Now they need to do the same thing to the TJ and Ensenada cops...then head south... :lol:

Edit...damn forgot why :lol:

...I will do it in a new post.. :lol:

[Edited on 1-12-2008 by Al G]

Al G - 1-12-2008 at 12:27 AM

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Originally posted by Hook
If they are all corrupt, it means that the system, i.e., the environment is what is corrupt and that will not change if only the faces are changed. It is a systemic disease, which we all knew anyway.

I applaud the changes that remove their weapons, increase their wages and give those they serve ( the local populace and us turistas) means of alerting indiscretions in something close to real time (the 800 number, whenever it is forthcoming).

Hook, I totally agree and add to that when hiring new cops...they are told that they will under go lie detector test every 6 months to see what crime they have committed. I know they will, because it is part of the police culture...that may be changing if they have to be tested ever so often

JESSE - 1-12-2008 at 04:29 AM

The gang that was terrorising Rosarito and all those tourists is getting systematically wiped out by the military. I suspect in less than a few months things will get back to normal.

DENNIS - 1-12-2008 at 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
First reaction is :
All of them? Not one god one? :wow:

Maybe all of them. An honest cop in Rosarito would be like a goldfish in shark infested waters. An oxymarooon. [I'll give my friend, Gull, a word to play with]
How could an honest police officer survive with the fear and peer preasure involved? Worse yet, how would an honest cop function in a corrupt system? If one swims around in an unflushed toilet, could he stay clean?

I'm into metaphores this morning. Better go have some coffee.

jimgrms - 1-12-2008 at 07:43 AM

Proably not all of them are corrupt but all of them were aware of the going on , so all should go

Alan - 1-12-2008 at 07:47 AM

With the desire to be PC today, that is a theory I haven't heard in many years. "Nuke them all and let God sort them out".

Unfortunately I know that not all Rosarito cops are bad. In 2003 I was heading home from BoLA when the axle on my boat trailer rattled loose and blew a tire. I dragged the boat off of the toll road and a Rosarito cop spent four hours helping me re-attach the axle (with his mini-14 slung over his shoulder the whole time). I had already used my spare on the trip down so he came back in the morning when he got off duty and lead me to the Llanteria to get a new tire. He only asked that I pay for his gas because the tire shop was opposite of his way home.

The elimination of everybody doesn't indicate they were all bad. It is simply the quickest and most effective way of changing an organizational culture. Get rid of all of the old culture and bring in all new so as to eliminate the chance of cross-contamination.

The Gull - 1-12-2008 at 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by fdt
First reaction is :
All of them? Not one god one? :wow:

Dennis, you mean a graduate of Occidental College in Eagle Rock, CA - oxymarooons.

How many "clean cops" were there in Rampart Division when all those investigations were going on in the LA Police Force. How long has it taken for 1) some of the reputation of the force to be regained and 2) crime to drop in any measurable way in LA?

I am not not suggesting either of those two events have or have not happened - I just raise the question. Playas de Rosarito is a smaller goldfish bowl, maybe the clean-up will be quicker.

BTW - Metaphors

djh - 1-12-2008 at 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
The Rosarito Police will no longer have weapons as theire collective license to carry them has been permanently taken away by the Army wich is the one that authorizes permits and the note sais it's because they are the ones responsible for the crimes commited between Tijuana and Ensenada.

ARE we SURE they will also be FIRED??? The post said weapons permits lost (only). If this truely is a systemic problem (and to continue the toilet metaphor) a single flush will not cure the bigger problems...

BTW:

1/6 I avoided Rosarito and TJ as much as possible when I drove to SD. I took that new Rosarito to Otay Mesa Bypass divided highway that heads inland just N. or Pureto Nuevo / S. of Fox Studios:

FROM the SOUTH:

Get off the Toll road at the Puerto Nuevo exit
Continue N. on the FREE road.
at 34.5 KM:
Turn RIGHT (there is construction going on there, so you may not see the 34.5 marker or the "CORREDOR" sign marking the turn. You'll go back under the toll road and then turn left.

You'll be on this new divided highway that goes 22 miles. The first 17 miles seemed deserted (especially the day after those rains of 1/4 & 5). As you go around the perimiter of TJ, there is some local traffic.

This new road ends at the TJ - Mexicali (2D) toll road. you need to take the "San Diego Ramp" (putting you westbound on Industrian Blvd. Continue west for 4 miles. When you see the McDonalds (and the second Pemex) get into the right lane and turn right at the sign "Garita Otay"... taking you right to the border wait lines.

While this new route is not perfect, it was MUCH better than screwing around in local TJ.

I'llplace this in a new thread as well so that others see it.

Good Luck!
djh

[Edited on 1-12-2008 by djh]

DENNIS - 1-12-2008 at 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull
BTW - Metaphors

Thank yous.

JoeSixPac - 1-12-2008 at 03:50 PM

They should not have a loose weapons license anyway.

Al G - 1-12-2008 at 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by JoeSixPac
They should not have a loose weapons license anyway.

I know how you feel...going to hurt their supplemental income.

BajaWarrior - 1-12-2008 at 10:26 PM

Oh great, how much do they charge for "speeding"?

Al G - 1-12-2008 at 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Oh great, how much do they charge for "speeding"?

BajaWarrior...be careful...I consider this a great thing.
You need to do some research....they are the hope for Baja's tomorrow.

BajaWarrior - 1-13-2008 at 08:59 AM

So where will the former police officers go? Are they still on the job? Oh, I'll take the added protection, I have no problem with a checkpoint every 5 miles all the way down Baja if need be.

Still wondering why they haven't moved the Army back to the Playas de Tijuana area though...

Al G - 1-13-2008 at 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by BajaWarrior
So where will the former police officers go? Are they still on the job? Oh, I'll take the added protection, I have no problem with a checkpoint every 5 miles all the way down Baja if need be.

Still wondering why they haven't moved the Army back to the Playas de Tijuana area though...

So where will the former police officers go?
They should go to jail and the worst of the bunch may...most likely be release back into the area with no job and will wreak havoc with the only thing they are good at. I am sure some will join the cartel.
If the PEP recruits the new police force, Rosarito will be a good place again :coolup: