BajaNomad - Mexico govt. opens school in LA

Mexico govt. opens school in LA

beachbum1A - 1-12-2008 at 08:54 AM

Just read this in the news this morning;

Mexican government opens 13 schools for basic education
Daily News Wire Services
Article Last Updated: 01/11/2008 11:01:32 AM PST

The Mexican government is operating 13 centers in Los Angeles County aimed at helping Mexican nationals complete their basic education.

The Mexican government opened its latest Plaza Comunitaria, or Community Plaza, at San Fernando Middle School yesterday.

The 13 centers offer free classes, in person or through video and the Internet, to Mexican nationals living in the United States.

"They are leaving our country without that education," Mario Velazquez, acting consul general at the Mexican Consulate in Los Angeles.

"We have failed in giving education to those Mexicans. We must try our best to give that education, even if they are abroad."

More than 40 percent of Mexican nationals over age 25 living in the United States had less than a ninth-grade education, according to 2005 data compiled by the Pew Hispanic Center.

This is a good news story

The Gull - 1-12-2008 at 02:57 PM

...any of the detractors of the Mexican government from the other posts want to comment negatively about this one?

bancoduo - 1-12-2008 at 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull
...any of the detractors of the Mexican government from the other posts want to comment negatively about this one?

YES!

DENNIS - 1-13-2008 at 07:24 AM

Now, they can open some hospitals and guaranty payments as well. This is a big step in the right direction.

Al G - 1-13-2008 at 08:31 AM

I consider it a positive step...just wondering what sort of curriculum they will offer. It sounds like adult education...ABC's would be great, but how to get legal would be better. If the Mexican Government stepped up and helped their citizens become legal in US it would go along way to improving their lives.

The Gull - 1-13-2008 at 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Now, they can open some hospitals and guaranty payments as well. This is a big step in the right direction.

the proper word is "guarentee".

Can you make it into the US sometime for these classes?

Phil S - 1-13-2008 at 10:05 AM

Gull. Your a smart ass "jerk" for that comment. What drives you about others inability to have correct spelling???????

The Gull - 1-13-2008 at 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Phil S
Gull. Your a smart burro "jerk" for that comment. What drives you about others inability to have correct spelling???????

Just trying to be helpful one bad speller at a time.

BTW, the "your" in your posting should read, "you're". It is the contraction of "you are". The use of "others" requires that you make it "other's" as it is possessive.

Phil, thank you for your interest.

bajaguy - 1-13-2008 at 10:20 AM

OK, how about this Gull.........you're a jerk

The Gull - 1-13-2008 at 10:26 AM

I believe you have taken some license with the asking of a question in the first phrase, but without the use of a question mark.

Minor oversight and a style that is often used when trying to add some drama into writing.

Otherwise, good work.

Al G - 1-13-2008 at 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
I believe you have taken some license with the asking of a question in the first phrase, but without the use of a question mark.

Minor oversight and a style that is often used when trying to add some drama into writing.

Otherwise, good work.

Your perfection is lost on most that could not give a Rats a$$ less :lol:

DENNIS - 1-13-2008 at 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull
the proper word is "guarentee".

Can you make it into the US sometime for these classes?

No need to go anywhere, Gull. That's twice in as many days that you've corrected me. I just consider it home schooling. I get a bit lazy with all this stuff so, thanks for the corrections.

Oso - 1-14-2008 at 08:18 AM

We've been doing this for two years now. I helped a local non-profit organization obtain a Mexican gov't grant from IME (Instituto para Mexicanos en el Exterior or "Institute for Mexicans Abroad) working through the local Consulate. We bring teachers from ISEA (Instituto Sonorense de Educacion para Adultos or "Sonoran Institute of Adult Education") in SLRC across two days a week to teach basic Primaria and Secundaria classes. Those who complete the courses get certificates. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with legal or illegal immigration status. As it happens, all the current students are legal. They are people, mostly older adults, who have been here many years, who had to leave Mexico without the opportunity to complete basic education. Most would like to obtain a U.S. GED and move on toward citizenship. There are classes and exams for the GED in Spanish. The problem is that most of these adults lack the very basic math, science, reading etc. to even start in the GED process. This program gives them a step up to that level playing field.

What's your problem with that?

who is this a good story for?

kimberlee - 1-14-2008 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
...any of the detractors of the Mexican government from the other posts want to comment negatively about this one?

So Mexicans have to leave their own country to get the education that their government won't give them? I just hope the Mexican government is paying for it and not the American tax payers.

Martyman - 1-14-2008 at 10:11 AM

Hey Gull;
You mispelled it too!! Guarantee is the correct spelling (it's not that important)

vandenberg - 1-14-2008 at 01:56 PM

Is this about grade 6.
I was always under the impression that at least half of you was halfassed educated with just bad memory and/or retention skills.

vandenberg - 1-14-2008 at 01:57 PM

I Know "were" :biggrin:

Just checking, see if you're on your toes. :saint:

[Edited on 1-14-2008 by vandenberg]

CaboRon - 1-16-2008 at 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
OK, how about this Gull.........you're a jerk

I have to second this comment.....

CaboRon

vandenberg - 1-16-2008 at 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by CaboRon

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Originally posted by bajaguy
OK, how about this Gull.........you're a jerk

I have to second this comment.....

CaboRon

How do you know it's not a "jerkess" :?:

Very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Gull - 1-19-2008 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by kimberlee
So Mexicans have to leave their own country to get the education that their government won't give them? I just hope the Mexican government is paying for it and not the American tax payers.

In another post, you stated that you are a Mexican living in Mexico.

I do find it interesting that you "just hope the Mexican government is paying for it [educating Mexicans in the US] and not the American tax payers."

Just interesting...

bancoduo - 1-19-2008 at 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by The Gull

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tax

payers

Russ - 1-20-2008 at 05:28 AM

n ten sum uf is jist dun no ow ti spil

kimberlee - 1-20-2008 at 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull

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it is intersting isn't it? I'm a naturalized citizen and a us citizen as well. before coming t mexico to live I was very supportive of Mexican immigrants. I still am. The problem I have observed is that the mexican government and elites are really really pushing for their adult citizens to move out of mexico and send money from a foreign country back here to take care of the citizenry that they refust to take care of. it took several years for me to do a complete 180 on my original belief and I now believe it is best that those able bodied mexican adults stay here in mexico and demand quality education from their government and put responsibility on their government to not be corrupt. mexico has more natural resources than most countries and if educated, the mexican citizens could rise up and keep up with technology and bring their country up to standards where their people can live a dignified life. i am bringing up my mexican born children and adopted mexican children to have the attitude to stay in their country, and improve it for the future. i won't mention the economic and social devistation that mass exodus of adults from this country to the usa has on the citizenry of both sides. so i may sound like a bigot to those who haven't thought this out completely, to those who haven't experienced what life is like in small villages of michoacan, oaxaca, guerrero, chiapas where there are no men and women between the ages of 15 and 55, only old persons caring for their childrens children. this has to stop for the good of both our countries.

Oso - 1-20-2008 at 10:02 AM

In case anyone seriously wants to know, yes the Mexican gov't, through the non-profit IME, is paying for the Plazas Comunitarias.

coconaco - 1-20-2008 at 11:06 AM

Kimberly- you are so right - this is so wrong

They are using mexican education funds as a public relations tool, because they need to keep the money flowing.

Do your schools in BAJA get their fair share of pesos?

This is also about LA as a sanctuary city - come one come all... we have been sold out by our MECHA driven politicians
here in LA. Yes Dennis we are losing our GUMBO. We are creating the biggest welfare states in the world. "Go to school for breakfast and lunch, and if they teach you something miho- o.k "

Kimberly- do you think that these kids educated here will ever go back to live in the rural villages?

OSO - Yes there are opportunities for citizenship classes and english speaking classes, and there is definitly a need for educating some of these expatriots in spanish to get them up to speed. Currently these programs are run by charitable organizations,churches, and yes the local school districts. Would you not agree that The Mex gov't's heart is not involved, and that it is not only the money flow.
This is a power grab and and a middle finger to the U.S.
:lol:

Maybe a little harsh- they are definitly exploiting this hole in US policy.

I have sponsored two of my workers in the amnisty program.
They now speak fluent english and look forward to their social security checks being sent to them in mex when they retire. Most others only want to live here as cheap as posible
to maximize the money sent home. I see mexico as a welfare state, so many of there people are dependant from northern money, Like a big bird nest at dawn full of insatiable open mouths.

I to have done a 180- I would not sponsor anyone again.
I feel like a pawn being played........ I am losing my humanity and my country..

And yes somebody please pull the feather out of his burro and poke it in his eye!

:wow:

Sorry for the rant, but I feel better!

[Edited on 1-20-2008 by coconaco]

kimberlee - 1-22-2008 at 09:50 AM

I hear an unusual silence from the gaviota. so no reply to my and conoco's posts on this gully :lol:

CaboRon - 1-22-2008 at 09:12 PM

Kimberlee,

I applaud you for your well thought out post here, and conoco also. These are not popular beliefs, but I think you hit the nail on the head. The emigration of the Mexican people is so the Mexican government doesn't have to come to terms with it's responsibilities to it's citizens. In spite of what one old dirty bird might say.

CaboRon

Oso - 1-23-2008 at 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by coconaco

OSO - Yes there are opportunities for citizenship classes and english speaking classes, and there is definitly a need for educating some of these expatriots in spanish to get them up to speed. Currently these programs are run by charitable organizations,churches, and yes the local school districts. Would you not agree that The Mex gov't's heart is not involved, and that it is not only the money flow.
This is a power grab and and a middle finger to the U.S.
:lol:

Maybe a little harsh- they are definitly exploiting this hole in US policy.

[Edited on 1-20-2008 by coconaco]

I have no desire to defend the Mexican, U.S. or any government and am not in a position to influence the policies of any such. I deal with people and the realities in which they and I find ourselves. To me, government actions are like the weather. If it's cold, I put on a jacket. If it's hot, I take it off. I may gripe about it or enjoy it, but it will do as it likes regardless of my opinion.

CaboRon - 1-23-2008 at 04:55 PM

Oso,

A very thoughtful response .... and also very true.

CaboRon

rdrrm8e - 1-24-2008 at 10:57 AM

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[Edited on 1-20-2008 by coconaco]

Well put....but some folks would opt to build a foundation, add 4 walls, a roof, some doors and windows and eventually climate control the place.

They would probably not be willing to be forced to share this with anybody who was culturally, geographically, financially or linguistically or architecturally incapable of doing it for themselves.

bajadedom - 1-24-2008 at 11:25 AM

Marty is correct - it's 'Guarantee' ....so if you're in the correcting mode you should at least be correct in your correction.(and Gull-Notice my use of 'your' and 'you're' is as you stated...correct!)