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Bobcat tractor?

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 11:59 AM

I've been thinking about bringing a bobcat tractor to my place in SQ.
What is the difference between bringing a Bobcat or a dirtbike or quad?
Can I bring it without importing it?
I want to use it to landscape my lots. There are also some large rocks that I want to break with a jackhammer attachment. I'll move the rocks into the maritime zone for a rock garden.
It will give me something to do when I'm there.

[Edited on 3-10-2008 by fishbuck]

DENNIS - 3-10-2008 at 12:07 PM

Fish....

Import, for sure.

I watched a crew of local workers bust up huge rocks without breaking a sweat. The soaked them with fuel and lit them on fire. Kept feeding the fire for a while, then, poured water over the rocks. The split into manageable pieces.

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Fish....

Import, for sure.

I watched a crew of local workers bust up huge rocks without breaking a sweat. The soaked them with fuel and lit them on fire. Kept feeding the fire for a while, then, poured water over the rocks. The split into manageable pieces.

Ingenious!

vandenberg - 3-10-2008 at 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

I watched a crew of local workers bust up huge rocks without breaking a sweat. The soaked them with fuel and lit them on fire. Kept feeding the fire for a while, then, poured water over the rocks. The split into manageable pieces.

The way of the Cavemen. Ingenious indeed. :biggrin:

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 02:28 PM

Why would it need to be imported.
If you bring a bunch of 4 wheelers in a toybox for the weekend do they need to be imported?
Why would a bobcat need to be imported for non-comercial use?
What happens if I try to cross the border with a Bobcat tractor on a trailer?

Diver - 3-10-2008 at 02:29 PM

I've been curious about Fishbuck's original question, also.
If my US company owns a backhoe and wants to lease it to my Mexican Corp for some period of time, after which the backhoe returns to the US,
do I need to import the leased hoe ??

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DENNIS - 3-10-2008 at 03:04 PM

The Bobcat is designed for construction and destruction. Who at the border will believe you just want to ride around the hills? You'll be lucky if it isn't confiscated for treating them as though they have no sense. What's next? A tank?

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 03:11 PM

A tank! I can blast those rocks right outta my way.
DENNIS, you are full of it. Good ideas I mean. How do you do it?

bajalou - 3-10-2008 at 03:11 PM

If it's something to do work with, it has to be imported to bring it into Mexico....

Diver - 3-10-2008 at 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by bajalou
If it's something to do work with, it has to be imported to bring it into Mexico....

Does that mean I have to pay import on my wife ?? :lol:

Diver - 3-10-2008 at 03:16 PM

And what about fishing gear ??
When I went fishing with Juan, it was so much WORK reeling in all those fish that I had to ask Juan to haul in the last one !! :biggrin:

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 03:19 PM

Ya, what about recreational work. I'd basically be digging holes for the fun of it.
No one is getting paid for it.

standingwave - 3-10-2008 at 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg

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The way of the Cavemen. Ingenious indeed. :biggrin:

Yeah, worked for Hannibal too, crossing the Alps a couple of thousand years ago on his unsuccessful bid to conquer Rome, clearing the way for the tanks of the time - elephants :lol:

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 03:46 PM

Maybe I can use an elephant to move the rocks. Do elephants need to be imported or can I just ride one across the border.

DENNIS - 3-10-2008 at 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
No one is getting paid for it.

That would be another problem in their eyes.

vandenberg - 3-10-2008 at 05:56 PM

For a combination/addition to your Baja vehicle sales endeavour, I suggest a pick-up. Buy an old camper, gut it, drive your Bobcat in it, curtain all the windows, secure backdoor with lawnchairs and tell them at the line that your going camping. Except for the Bobcat, I've done this and it works. Now you have your Bobcat here AND a vehicle to sell. :saint:

fishbuck - 3-10-2008 at 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
For a combination/addition to your Baja vehicle sales endeavour, I suggest a pick-up. Buy an old camper, gut it, drive your Bobcat in it, curtain all the windows, secure backdoor with lawnchairs and tell them at the line that your going camping. Except for the Bobcat, I've done this and it works. Now you have your Bobcat here AND a vehicle to sell. :saint:

I was thinking along those lines too.
Wasn't there a post a while back about a guy who disassembled a cement mixer and took it down one piece at a time?
I could put numbers on it and tell them I'm racing it in the B1000. It a new class.
Heck, I might even win!

Taco de Baja - 4-19-2008 at 09:32 AM

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I saw a show on the Discovery Channel a week or so ago, and they think that is how the Egyptians quarried rock (with wood for fuel, of course :lol:

) Even the long continuous slabs for the obelisks were cut this way. Build a mud brick wall enclosure where you want the cut, build a fire in the enclosure, let it burn a while, pour on some water, pound on crumbling granite with a harder rock, repeat.

They did an experiment and it was amazing how much more granite could be broken compared to just pounding on untreated granite with a harder rock.

Gadget - 4-19-2008 at 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by fishbuck
I've been thinking about bringing a bobcat tractor to my place in SQ.
What is the difference between bringing a Bobcat or a dirtbike or quad?
Can I bring it without importing it?
I want to use it to landscape my lots. There are also some large rocks that I want to break with a jackhammer attachment. I'll move the rocks into the maritime zone for a rock garden.
It will give me something to do when I'm there.

[Edited on 3-10-2008 by fishbuck]

I think you pretty much spilled the beans on your intentions with this 1st post Fish.

You are bringing the Bobcat down to do work the locals can surely do. Thats a no can do. You can only do work that is not available by some means by the locals, which would mean by hand or fire or whatever, even if its way slower and not fun for you.

You are planning on leaving it there to work with when "I'm there", which means you are importing it.

Its an innocent idea of yours IMO but I think it could be considered illegal by Mexico.

Bob and Susan - 4-19-2008 at 12:07 PM

actually there is a bobcat for rent here in mulege

price with driver is $50 an hour when working

delivered to your construction site

dumptruck for the "spoiles" can come with it too :yes:

fishbuck - 4-19-2008 at 12:35 PM

I found a bobcat in San Quintin! And a big frontend loader. When I drive around I always see huge tractors down there so I stopped and asked.
The owner is Santurino. It was fun trying to find the owner but I finally tracked his wife down and got a card.
I'll make an appointment with him next time.
His Bobcat is an 863 a big one. I still want my own tracktor.

Bob and Susan - 4-19-2008 at 01:49 PM

every boy wants a tractor :lol:

Cypress - 4-19-2008 at 01:55 PM

A bobcat isn't a tractor, it's a high-powered golf cart. :tumble:

fishbuck - 4-19-2008 at 02:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
every boy wants a tractor :lol:

And what a boy wants he can get damn it!
I need to review the Excavator import story again and start thinking of doing it the right way.
:bounce:

fishbuck - 4-19-2008 at 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
A bobcat isn't a tractor, it's a high-powered golf cart. :tumble:

Fishbuck at border: It's a golf cart.
Mex Border Guard: It looks like a tractor. Why does it have a bucket?
Fishbuck: That's where I carry my clubs. :tumble:

Gadget - 4-19-2008 at 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
A bobcat isn't a tractor, it's a high-powered golf cart. :tumble:

Wrong, they are motorized dust pans :yes:

i imported a tractor

pacificobob - 4-21-2008 at 08:41 AM

a new kubota l3400 with backhoe and several implements....it was easy...just add money

rob - 4-23-2008 at 01:00 PM

One of the lot owners here at the ranch is building his house with a Bobcat that he brought down. It's duty-free (+IVA), bring it through a good customs agent.

If its imported, you can (legally) sell it when you no longer need it.

re shattering rocks: back in another life in Africa, the workers also used to build fires on the huge granite boulders outside Cape Town. As a child, I remember in one crew there were two brothers who had both lost one eye when pouring cold water on the red-hot rock.

¡Cuidadoso!

DENNIS - 4-23-2008 at 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by pacificobob
..it was easy...just add money

How much money?

Pescador - 4-23-2008 at 07:05 PM

I had a friend at El Sargento who brought down a bobcat, imported it legally and after Hurricane John he was helping his next door neighbor move some trash and they came by and tried to impound his unit and were going to give him a fine, but the neighbor was a Mexican and he raised a lot of hell and just happened to be politically connected so they dropped everything. So be careful.

durrelllrobert - 4-24-2008 at 11:09 AM

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do I need to import the leased hoe ??

Only if she be a black hoe :lol:

durrelllrobert - 4-24-2008 at 11:28 AM

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I could put numbers on it and tell them I'm racing it in the B1000. It a new class.
Heck, I might even win!

someone has already done that. check out HoweAndHowe.com for video :lol:

EMAM - 4-24-2008 at 09:59 PM

I was wondering the same thing because we have a John Deere 4100 tractor with a loader bucket and a box blade on the back.

I'd love to bring it down, but was wondering why I'd need to claim it if I was just doing maintenace on my own property?

Bob and Susan - 4-25-2008 at 05:42 AM

"If its imported, you can (legally) sell it when you no longer need it."

there's actually 2 import systems
a "frontizera" (sp) and a "nationalization"

you can ONLY sell it legally if you use the "nationalization" import which is more expensive

we imported our compact tractor that has a loader and a scraper and use it all the time

eamn...you'll NEVER get across the border with out the import paperwork
once imported you can take it back and forth...no problem

you just need to make sure you have a correct "working" FM2-3 and ONLY work on your own place

EMAM - 4-25-2008 at 08:18 AM

Thanks Bob & Susan, I'll keep that in mind and make sure we go through the proper paperwork if we do bring ours down.

Good info to know

capn.sharky - 4-25-2008 at 08:53 PM

You can lease a hoe at the Penthouse in Loreto---and don't need to import anything.

fishbuck - 4-25-2008 at 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by capn.sharky
You can lease a hoe at the Penthouse in Loreto---and don't need to import anything.

The Penthouse is long gone but the is a new 'ho rental place in town. I haven't been there... yet!