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Baja Reflections - Naked Scallops

Pompano - 3-20-2008 at 10:20 AM

Graveyard of Bay Scallops

Once the Bay was literally paved with these tasty morsels.

This is what became of the huge population of Conception Bay scallops. The meat went north to US restaurants and markets. And eventually even these shell piles began to disappear to be used in various projects.

I don't think Marcus Aurelius had this 'change' in mind when he wrote: "Loss is nothing else but change, and change is Nature's delight.

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Ken Bondy - 3-20-2008 at 10:31 AM

Very thought-provoking, Roger. I have seen huge piles of shells, clams, scallops, abulon, etc. in other places around Baja, but I always thought they were "middens" from indigenous people. I did not realize that the Bahia Concepcion scallops were farmed and exported. I assume that the scallops are gone now?? What a sad story.
++Ken++

Skipjack Joe - 3-20-2008 at 10:47 AM

This one's up the coast, a bit farther north. These mounds are amazing.

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Sharksbaja - 3-20-2008 at 11:02 AM

Those are very attractive clam shells Roger. I've seen some of those piles one the other side of your bay. In fact you can see them easily with GoogleEarth from space.

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Fellows, it was a sad couple of seasons....

Pompano - 3-20-2008 at 11:05 AM

That's about what it took to decimate the bay of scallops..2 short years to eliminate what nature created so many millenium ago.

We had about 2500-3000 people scallop-camping in the bay at those peak times back around 1987-1989. All engaged in scallop harvesting. Over 1000 pangas with divers and spotters. You could see the pangas piled high with mounds of scallops from a mile away.

The stench of the shore camps was overpowering when one went by boat past where Bob y Susan's nice resort is now, and almost all of Playa Naranjo point, was a bunch of makeshift shacks surrounded with piles of reeking shells.

This was a common sight all around the perimeter of Conception Bay...from the point to the south end...26 miles of scallop camp.

Before that time, one could always be assured of a scallop dinner supplied by some local hookah-divers. Afterwards it was like a lunar landscape, almost devoid of life.

It's that 'almost' part that gives us hope for the future.

DENNIS - 3-20-2008 at 11:05 AM

There were mountainous piles of Abalone shells around Newport Beach when I was a kid.

All gone....What a shame.

Pompano - 3-20-2008 at 11:09 AM

Corky, try as I might...I just can't place that Google sat. photo. You sure that's in Coyote Bay? And if so, just where?

Sharksbaja - 3-20-2008 at 11:15 AM

Directly across from Coyote.

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Laguna San Ignacio

bajadogs - 3-20-2008 at 11:16 AM



This can also be seen from Google Earth. I don't know the history of these shells, but will assume something similar to Pompano's description.

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Ken Bondy - 3-20-2008 at 11:17 AM

Roger
About 30 years ago I spent a few days at Serenidad. The bartender, forget his name, also drove a cab, and one morning he took us south maybe 10 miles into Bahia Concepcion, stopped at a nice beach close to the road, and we waded out maybe 50 yards into water that was about two feet deep. There, just by rooting around in the silt with our hands for a few minutes, we collected several sacks full of big chocolate clams. We then waded back to the beach where he lit a fire and boiled the clams in a large pot, adding spices and vegetables. We ate clams till we were stuffed, then managed to put down some of the delicious chowder. It was a memorable day. I assume those clams are also not there anymore, is that right?
++Ken++

Skipjack Joe - 3-20-2008 at 11:19 AM

That was 20 years ago. If they haven't been harvested since then why haven't the scallops come back?

Gadget - 3-20-2008 at 11:23 AM

How bout this one, miles of clam shells and "gravel" beach south of Asuncion

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Pompano - 3-20-2008 at 11:33 AM

Corky...it's been a long time since I have been in space, but that could be close to the turnoff for Baja Patty's old rancho Margarita across Conception Bay on the peninsula. That right angled shorefront could be what we call Jingle Beach...because of the pretty rose-colored thin shells found there. Make great windchime projects for the ladies. And yes, there are many piles of scallop shells left there from the harvest days.

bajadogs...that was a very familiar sight around here for many years. Then a lot was hauled away to pave driveways, etc.

Ken..that taxi driver most likely took you to Santispac for the clam lunch. Chocolates were abundant everywhere back then, and Santispac was a favorite destination from Mulege. We like to take the boat to Playa Sta. Barbara nowadays for good getaway and a chocolate-erotica dinner. Steamers and botajones are there, too.

Skipjack, I am afraid the seed crop may be gone...but we are optomistic of the future. Given a chance, nature will restore our Bay.

edited to add this photo of another form of 'scallop'...mantarayas. The ray's wings are cookie-cuttered into perfect scallops and none are the wiser. Now the once numerous schools of rays are gone, too...along with the sharks that fed on them.


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Baja Shell Middens

turtleandtoad - 3-21-2008 at 08:37 AM

This is one of the many middens on the top of the Requeson Island. The thing I still can't figure out is why anyone would drag all those shells all the way to the top of the island

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Joelt - 3-21-2008 at 10:03 AM

Just a little north of Conception at Shell beach I see scallops while snorkeling out front of our place. Not many but they are there. I also see divers in the same area taking shell creatures of some sort. I can't tell what they are taking. Up the beach from us is a fish camp and they have piles of some sort of sea snail type shells. Smells good. I don't know what they are or if the the divers are from the camp.

Sharksbaja - 3-21-2008 at 02:38 PM

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Sharksbaja - 3-21-2008 at 02:43 PM

Hey Roger, can you tell where this was taken?

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David K - 3-21-2008 at 04:05 PM

The same area of Gadget's sundown photo... between Bahia Asuncion and Punta Prieta:

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David K - 3-21-2008 at 04:06 PM

Close up of the 'sand' on that beach:

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Oso - 3-22-2008 at 08:44 AM

Tried to open this thread on my office computer yesterday and got blocked by our firewall identifying this as pornography. Go figure.:?::?::?::?::?:

Roberto - 3-22-2008 at 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Oso
Tried to open this thread on my office computer yesterday and got blocked by our firewall identifying this as pornography. Go figure.:?::?::?::?::?:


Your firewall sucks. But, it's maintained by the county, right?

Oso - 3-22-2008 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by Roberto
Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
Tried to open this thread on my office computer yesterday and got blocked by our firewall identifying this as pornography. Go figure.:?::?::?::?::?:


Your firewall sucks. But, it's maintained by the county, right?


Yep. It blocks a lot of stuff because of "weighted phrase".

Ken Bondy - 3-22-2008 at 09:58 AM

Oso, which word do you think it found offensive, "Baja" or "Reflections"?
++Ken++

Oso - 3-22-2008 at 10:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Bondy
Oso, which word do you think it found offensive, "Baja" or "Reflections"?
++Ken++

Beats me. Sometimes it even picks up "bad words" in Portuguese.:?:

Ken Bondy - 3-22-2008 at 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Oso
Beats me. Sometimes it even picks up "bad words" in Portuguese.:?:

I used to know a lot of those :lol: Lived in Brazil in the early 60s, but I've probably forgotten most of the good ones. No, come to think of it I could probably rattle off a few.....++Ken++

turtleandtoad - 3-22-2008 at 11:49 AM

In a prior life, I was involved with a Scripts Institute study on the feasibliity of farming abalone. When asked what I did, I'd say that I was breeding Abs. This always led to the question of "How do you breed Abalone?"

My reply was that it wasn't hard once you got them in the mood. This was always followed by "How do you get them in the mood?". My reply "you show them porno movies of naked abs" :lol::lol::lol:

Maybe your firewall got it backwards and thought the shells were porno. :spingrin:

Oso - 3-22-2008 at 08:19 PM

Now I see it! "Naked Scallops":O

Cave litter north of Santa Rosaliita

standingwave - 3-22-2008 at 10:11 PM

The mouth of the cave in the distance is 15 to 20 feet wide and the shells spilling down the hillside below are more than a meter deep in places. How many meals over how many years did it take to build up a pile of that many shells?:?::?:
It's not as if they were harvesting and packaging them for the export market.:lol:

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Iflyfish - 3-23-2008 at 12:05 AM

Oso
The site of those middens and the rape of Conception is pornographic.
Iflyfish

Sharksbaja - 3-23-2008 at 12:20 AM

Thank god they didn't possess hookas!!! I wonder how much damage they really did?

How middens got started.

Pompano - 3-23-2008 at 06:13 AM

Early BajaNomadic types, discovering steamers, chocolates, and scallops, soon became clam addicts.

(All that remained was for someone to invent melted butter.)

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EMAM - 4-4-2008 at 10:43 PM

We drove out to the lighthouse on Puerto Carranza off of Guerrero Negro, and saw huge piles (Some taller than I am - I'm 5'5" so maybe they werent that huge:lol:)

But I couldnt believe how many piles there were!


The edges of the road and the road itself looked as if it was made from the shells

Taco de Baja - 4-5-2008 at 08:52 AM

Miles and miles of these thick ancient middens along the coast.

Inland along the road in, there are shells too, just not as thick.

I have seen middens out on San Nicolas Island, off the CA coast, that are 20 feet thick.

Native Americans apparently liked to exploit the natural resources too.





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Bob and Susan - 4-5-2008 at 09:09 AM

Pomp... is actually correct about this area being an enviormantal disaster area...

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Bob and Susan - 4-5-2008 at 09:11 AM

back in 1991 an article was written in Sudcalifornino Newpaper exposing the stripping of the bay...

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Bob and Susan - 4-5-2008 at 09:13 AM

actually Armando Naranjo spearheaded the induction of the new laws protecting the bay...

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Bob and Susan - 4-5-2008 at 09:15 AM

the fisherman still fish for scallops but not nearly like they did in the past...small potatoes now...

one month a year its legal to harvast the scallops from the bay...

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