BajaNomad - Do we need a non-Baja Trip Reports forum?

Do we need a non-Baja Trip Reports forum?

BajaNomad - 3-21-2008 at 04:10 AM

Just seeking feedback.

There are at times a number of postings by regular users here that have been allowed to "fly under the radar" of being Baja-specific, as they have been of considerable interest to many here anyway. Especially when there are good photos involved.

In my estimation this usually happens around someone's travels to a non-Baja destination (or with a non-Baja activity).

So, what are your thoughts, feedback, etc. on a non-Baja Trip Reports forum?

Thanks,
--
Doug Means

[Edited on 3-21-2008 by BajaNomad]

Ken Bondy - 3-21-2008 at 05:54 AM

Doug

That would make me feel a lot more comfortable when/if I post underwater images that were not made in Baja. Even though I generally get nice feedback from the users (which I greatly appreciate), it always makes me feel like I am stretching the rules. So please cast one vote from me for a non-Baja Trip Reports/Photos forum :biggrin:

++Ken++

Oooops I forgot to vote. Now my vote is recorded :lol:

[Edited on 3-21-2008 by Ken Bondy]

Diver - 3-21-2008 at 06:43 AM

I thought we'd considered this type of forum in the past ?
This group seems to travel to places that many of us like-minded folks would enjoy. Sounds like a good idea to me although I hope we won't get posts on the 20 mile trip to Aunt Bittsy's house for tea !
Shall the forum be accessible with the "Today's Posts" feature or elsewhere like the "Off Topic" ?
Either is fine with me.
.

bajaguy - 3-21-2008 at 06:59 AM

Great Idea.......share other than Baja trips and info!!!!

Bob and Susan - 3-21-2008 at 07:17 AM

thats how the vagabundos "club" went downhill...

it strayed from baja trips and expieriences

the focus is baja here
even though i agree people that read this board have alot of common interests

Al G - 3-21-2008 at 07:31 AM

I believe this could work with proper restraints. Trips to Latin America, works for me as well as US and Canadian national parks...exploration under water will hold great interest as Baja is so similar. Trips to San Francisco, LA, NYC and the likes would be a downer for sure...considering Europe or Asia to be of interest would be stretching it...to dissimilar :no:

Now Australia and New Zealand are back in that tropical feel??? Knowing there are more such areas makes it difficult, but to me that would be the limit. :coolup:

Al G - 3-21-2008 at 07:40 AM

A concern would be newbies coming in and jamming up the board with travel ads...I think 1000 posts before to non Baja reports.

turtleandtoad - 3-21-2008 at 08:06 AM

Although I'm all for letting Diver post whatever he wants because of his great photo's, and even though I'm guilty of posting non-Baja stuff in the past; I have to vote no.

The reason is that the right place for Baja or non-Baja trips is your own website. A forum format is just too restrictive to do justice to some of those trips. Just do as most of us do, and stick a link to your website in your sig.

Natalie Ann - 3-21-2008 at 08:17 AM

Seeing photos and reading stories about folks' trips is good fun.
Fun idea, Doug, although I can also see it could become a huge kettle of fish.
(I did vote yes.)

And Diver... if I can't post pix of Aunt Bitsy's - what's the point? :?:

Nena

Oso - 3-21-2008 at 08:28 AM

Having been guilty of such transgressions I think it would be nice to have a proper place for these, especially concerning the mainland. I don't live in Baja but I can see it from here and I often respond to questions regarding El Golfo- Sonora, not Baja, but still on the Cortez... Those not interested can simply avoid that forum (as some claim to do with Off-Topic) and not worry about other forums being cluttered with non-Baja posts.

DENNIS - 3-21-2008 at 08:32 AM

I believe this place is more than "just Baja." It's about Baja folks as well. BajaNomad is a community of people sharing experiences in their lives whether it's in Baja or otherwise. What's wrong with that? I don't think the board will ever be overrun with trip reports from Oregon or any other place outside Baja. Baja will always be the primary focus. What else could it be?

David K - 3-21-2008 at 08:33 AM

A seperate forum for Baja Nomad's non-Baja trips and photos would be a great way for those who share reports and photos of other than Baja places... No ads, naturally.

'Today's Posts' is not a forum but a 'board' where all posts from forums with acticity in the past 48 hours is displayed (except the Off Topic forum). That helps us see what's new, without opening all the forums here on Nomad (which nobody has time or energy to do).

Thanks Doug... and if you do, I have some great photos form New Mexico and Arizona that many Nomads will enjoy, as they are of petroglyphs, volcanoes, meteor crater, petrified forests, caverns and caves!

[Edited on 3-21-2008 by David K]

jorgie - 3-21-2008 at 08:35 AM

YUP but not on todays posts, under off topic. todays posts are the backbone of Nomads........the yarns.....the good .......and the bad

DENNIS - 3-21-2008 at 08:42 AM

Ironically, one of the least used forums here is the Spanish Language forum. Since being a Baja purist is part of the question, maybe we should ask why.

Yes

BMG - 3-21-2008 at 08:52 AM

vandenberg - 3-21-2008 at 09:08 AM

A lot of us "permanentes" love to hear about the mainland and entertain thoughts of making a trip there.
That alone would make it worth it.
I made several references to my mainland excursions, but was always afraid I was going to get called on it for not being Baja related.

Iflyfish - 3-21-2008 at 09:57 AM

Being majorly self absorbed I tend to post what is on my mind, including trips to mainland, fishing experiences in other places, opinions etc. I had not considered this issue and it is a good one to think about. So far I think that the moderators have done a good job of keeping the focus and hope they will continue to do so. If there is another topic opened then I would like to see reference to it on the daily post. I would not want to miss a report on mainland mexico.

I personaly like the clear focus on Baja, though have also greatly enjoyed the excursions into other areas, particularly related to the mainland. Nomads are in the main pretty bright bulbs when it comes to travel. Having said that I would like to see postings primarily on Baja with the occasional excursion to the mainland. I too am concerned about dilluting the content of this marvelous forum.

Iflyfish

Packoderm - 3-21-2008 at 10:03 AM

I would like to read about Nomad's experiences and perceptions wherever they/we go. It seems that it would be more enlightening to hear about, say, Everglades National Park, Florida Keys, or even the back country of Poland from a Nomad rather than from TripAdvisor. I vote a definite yes.

Sharksbaja - 3-21-2008 at 10:14 AM

My response would be much the same as Bobs'. Most of us "regulars" are not strangers to travel but methinks that it could open "Pandoras Travel Box" so to speak. You see, there could be considerable distraction, perhaps shifting the emphasis on target subject material, which is the engine that drives this board.
I think it could draw down the focus and participation of things Baja. Besides, who wants to hear about someones' trip to France.....or Canada? :lol:

I would simply recommend more visits to unseen places in Baja.

Packoderm - 3-21-2008 at 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Besides, who wants to hear about someones' trip to France.....or Canada? :lol:

I have never been to Europe. I would like to read about it from a Baja Nomad's point of view. You know they will probably bag on the stuff that is a joke. It doesn't really need to appear on Today's Posts - though I don't see how that will hurt me personally in the least. It can be suppressed along with the Off Topic.

BAJACAT - 3-22-2008 at 01:41 PM

I say NO, Just read the name of the Website BAJA NOMAD. Keep it simple, this is a Baja related Website,just my two cents Dough.

Gadget - 3-22-2008 at 07:17 PM

I'll also be in the minority of the postings here and cast a "no" vote. There is more information on the Internet about everywhere than any of us in a lifetime could view. Get all the info online you need for the Grand Canyon, to take a trip there. It doesn't need to be found on BajaNomad IMHO

Mango - 3-22-2008 at 07:48 PM

I voted yes; however, I think it should be somewhat restricted or focused to avoid from straying too far.

I think if there were another forum it should be restricted to the mainland or ex-Spanish empire (Southwest US/Mexico/Central/South America).

I'm guilty of posting about the mainland as I have traveled there often and really enjoy it, so maybe my request to keep it focused on Mexico could be viewed as selfish.

Not that I don't care about peoples trips to Europe, etc.. but it is just straying too far IMO. As many people here have pointed out.. the risk of straying from the path is real. Even if you just limit the forum to the Mainland as I have suggested; people will inevitably talk about, post, or ask questions about Guatemala since it is right next to Mexico.

On the other hand there is already much cross-over in discussion regarding Mexican politics, food and travel as it is.

shari - 3-22-2008 at 07:48 PM

I too voted NO...there are lots of other travel boards out there and our moderators have enough work on their hands with just baja stuff. Having said that...I guess it would be OK if it was in an off topic forum and not on today's posts....I really really like today's posts and would like to see more than the 2 pages...maybe the last 3 days...I have missed some good posts when I am away from the computer for a couple days. A non baja trip forum would perhaps be just one too many and louse up the today's posts. IMHO

Neal Johns - 3-22-2008 at 07:52 PM

Yes, but leave it out of Today's Posts

bajalou - 3-22-2008 at 09:11 PM

What about the people who do NOT have websites - and I think there are a lot of us.

Sharksbaja - 3-22-2008 at 09:55 PM

Some of us here are guilty of shameless self-promotion. I don't post my site because it's simply not Baja.

Those that enjoy reaping friends and denero by enlisting BajaNomads' generous policy are fortunate. It's a helluva bargain and I only object when the whole subject is geared to promotion.

Good idea there Shari, I too often loose track of a thread I like. The sheer volume of posters that visit in the allotted time sometimes overwhelm a page as others before it sink away forever.

nomad=adventurer?

wsdunc - 3-24-2008 at 12:35 PM

I am glad to see this topic. I have met quite a few Baja travelers during my travels to Baja. Some of them I would call Baja people. The foks I call Baja people seem to share some common characteristics. They seem to:
Like adventure
Appreciate beauty, even rugged beauty
Enjoy meeting people from other cultures
Enjoy eating different foods
Not be chained down by the idea that the American way is the only way
Be comfortable roughing it
Be self sufficient
Be willing to help others

The Nomad website is filled with people that would fit this description, and some that don't.

I get the chance to travel to Bolivia periodically, and I love it there. I love the people, and the food. The scenery is world class, and the culture is excitingly different, including local costumes and raditions. If Bolivia had an ocean I could probably be convinced to give up the plans for an East Cape house and live in Bolivia(which also happens to be very inexpensive).

When I travel to Bolivia I take too many digital photos. Once organized I think they would appeal to any Baja person, and would love to offer viewing them to the Nomads. In the funny way the world works I have recent photos from 14000 ft which look like the could have been taken in Baja, the resemblence is curious. And that list of characteristics earlier? These are basically what the photos are all about.

I want to show them for the simple reason that if things were reversed I would like to see them. I love Baja, and as I said earlier am in the process of migrating there. But there is a big world out there, and I would like a chance to experience it all. Since that's not going to happen, the next best thing is a good trip report from a like minded person.

Von - 3-24-2008 at 12:55 PM

0rale!

Debra - 3-24-2008 at 01:36 PM

While it doesn't bother me to see trip reports Non-Baja related I know it does upset some. Frankly I enjoy them sometimes, especially with photos.

Maybe if the thread heading to everyone up front that the report is about, Central America, Arizona...... whatever, all would know if it is of interest to them personally.

My main concer is with all the options you already give us I want to make sure you aren't over worked and get burned out like the Robiville's did (sorry, I know I spelled that wrong)

I don't want to lose this fourm!

Thanks Doug, I know this is hard work for you, and you still offer more.

wilderone - 3-27-2008 at 09:05 AM

"No" vote. If I want information on a million other places, I'll go seek that information on sites specifically related to that destination (which I do). This is a site specifically for Baja, and sometimes mainland Mexico or Mexico-related issues, and this is where I come for that info. Even a lot of the Baja stuff on this site does not interest me because it's coming from motorhome travelers, hunters, dirt bikers, etc. - if you expanded the "travel" forum to ANYWHERE BY ANYONE IN ANY FASHION (hotels, all-inclusive, big cities, etc.), it would not really have any focus, since there's literally a whole world out there.

DENNIS - 3-27-2008 at 09:13 AM

But, wouldn't it have it's own forum? You could just choose not to read it.

David K - 3-27-2008 at 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
But, wouldn't it have it's own forum? You could just choose not to read it.

Of course it would be its own forum... Wilderone and the others... if you don't want to see photos of missions in Sonora or the meteor crater in Arizona or Pompano's blizzard photos from North Dakota, you don't need to!

However, if Baja Nomads (like us) who actually go to other places than Baja (now with the crime or before) have a forum for Baja Nomad non-Baja trip reports and photos here on Doug's web site... then as a community, it stays in the same neighborhood. That beats searching the Internet to see fellow Nomad's trip photos.

bancoduo - 3-27-2008 at 06:04 PM

Baja Nomads (like us) who actually go to other places than Baja. A little NARCISSISTIC, wouldn't you say.

Hook - 3-27-2008 at 06:07 PM

I'm all for it.

Roberto - 3-27-2008 at 06:46 PM

Sure, why not? Everything BUT Baja is routinely discussed on this web site already, so why not have a NON-BAJA trip forum?

bancoduo - 3-27-2008 at 07:03 PM

How about a Baja porno. forum?

Gadget - 3-27-2008 at 07:24 PM

Still voting NO.
Nothing above has convinced me otherwise.

I say......Yes. But....

Pompano - 3-27-2008 at 09:01 PM

I did stay at a North Dakota Holiday Express last night.

In preparation for some 'snipe' hunting. Ah..nothing quite like this forum :tumble:

[Edited on 3-30-2008 by Pompano]

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DENNIS - 3-27-2008 at 09:40 PM

Roger....

You could have said that was up here in the sierra, Laguna Hanson maybe, and nobody would have known the difference.

jeans - 3-27-2008 at 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wsdunc
I am glad to see this topic. I have met quite a few Baja travelers during my travels to Baja. Some of them I would call Baja people. The foks I call Baja people seem to share some common characteristics. They seem to:
Like adventure
Appreciate beauty, even rugged beauty
Enjoy meeting people from other cultures
Enjoy eating different foods
Not be chained down by the idea that the American way is the only way
Be comfortable roughing it
Be self sufficient
Be willing to help others

The Nomad website is filled with people that would fit this description, and some that don't.

I get the chance to travel to Bolivia periodically, and I love it there. I love the people, and the food. The scenery is world class, and the culture is excitingly different, including local costumes and raditions. If Bolivia had an ocean I could probably be convinced to give up the plans for an East Cape house and live in Bolivia(which also happens to be very inexpensive).

When I travel to Bolivia I take too many digital photos. Once organized I think they would appeal to any Baja person, and would love to offer viewing them to the Nomads. In the funny way the world works I have recent photos from 14000 ft which look like the could have been taken in Baja, the resemblence is curious. And that list of characteristics earlier? These are basically what the photos are all about.

I want to show them for the simple reason that if things were reversed I would like to see them. I love Baja, and as I said earlier am in the process of migrating there. But there is a big world out there, and I would like a chance to experience it all. Since that's not going to happen, the next best thing is a good trip report from a like minded person.

Regardless of what the official decision is, I would love to see your Bolivian pictures. I met two women from there last week when a contingent of business women from several Latin American countires came to San Diego.

As to the question at hand...I would think it to be a valuable addition. Yes...this is a community for Baja. But the community is comprised of people, some we have formed bonds with regardless if we have met in person.

I would find their experiences....in other places that are of interest to me...to be of value.

In some cases...the person is the interest. I would have read an accounting of a trip to K-mart if it had been written by Mike Humfreville :yes:

... but not by Roberto!

David K - 5-30-2008 at 04:41 PM

Doug, after reading Hook's latest post about moving to Sonora... I think a Nomad 'non-Baja' trip forum is in order so we can see and hear from Hook and other Baja Nomads who are in interesting, but non-Baja places that we would like to see or read about... Yes, there is plenty of Baja still to see... but there is a whole world of other sites that Nomads go to or live at that would be of interest to La Familia Nomad!

bajabound2005 - 5-30-2008 at 06:03 PM

YES! Because we just did 12 days on the Mainland and we want to post our report!

Bob and Susan - 5-30-2008 at 06:27 PM

you CANNOT be everything to everyone :light:

remember you can be ...
"a jack of all trades but a MASTER of none" :tumble:

elgatoloco - 5-30-2008 at 06:52 PM

I just spent five thrilling days in Rupert, Idaho. Have some fabulous shots of my nephew's high school graduation and my niece's wedding on the shores of the Snake River. Not to mention bow hunting for carp form a canoe, world class! :lol:

Bring it on!

Bob H - 5-30-2008 at 07:51 PM

I'm surprised I didn't see the thread back in March. I'd vote a strong YES. Many Nomads travel the world, as Audrey and I do - the images we have of these places - would love to share with other Nomads and not get blasted for doing so.
Bob H

bajabound2005 - 5-30-2008 at 08:45 PM

hmmmm, as i read through these comments, maybe a non-baja BUT Mexico?

BajaNuts - 5-30-2008 at 11:04 PM

Can there be a "NON-BAJA" NOMADS travels sections? Kind of like the off-topics, but maybe for nomad's travels and lives outside Baja?

I agree that the nature of a nomad will take them to other places than Baja N & S. And as Baja is so much a part of the nomads who connect to this website's lives.... it is sometimes hard not to combine the two. If they can be connected in a space where we can go and see what and where nomad "XYZ" has been ouside of Baja, it would be nice.

BajaNomads are real people with many-faceted lives. Part of the real people factor is that people actually make human connections on a website and want to share other areas of their lives. If this can be accommodated in a Non-baja subject area, maybe that would work.

Regular nomads could post something about "our recent trip to PuertoRico" and non-regular nomads could eat dried prunes while perusing the latest trip photos from nomadxyz. jmho

Packoderm - 5-31-2008 at 07:34 AM

Do we want a non-baja travel section? Not everybody does.
Do we need a non-baja travel section? Yes.
Look how the angry political horsecrap section calmed things down so much on the main part of the board. We really needed that, but quite a few people were against that at he time.

Bajafun777 - 5-31-2008 at 07:54 AM

I travel a lot of different spots in Mexico and really liked Ken's photos on Columbia, as I had so thoughts of going there myself and it helps to get interest to do it or not. Nomads are what the viewers of this site are we like to look in the other areas not just our own spot we are in. No harm in sharing here and posting in an area called "other trips" keep it simple and I bet it will be looked at by many.
Still love all the Baja information and unfortunately these "other sites" with information on trips elsewhere I do not have a feel for those posting or even know any of them, not the same as on this site as I have meant a number of the Baja Nomads over the years and make it point to try and go to functions so I can get to know our Nomads. Too many Nomads with great information and experiences to share not to allow this to happen. This is just my thought on it and it does not lessen the Baja Nomad experience or site function it just enhances it. Later--------bajafun777

bajadock - 5-31-2008 at 08:31 AM

Doesn't OFF-TOPIC section offer space?

I once thought O-T was simply the "go to your room without dessert" section. There are some good reads, intellectual gems and links that are entertaining in O-T.

Perhaps marketing O-T as "OTHER THAN BAJA" would encourage discovery.

HEY ISN'T THIS THREAD OFF TOPIC???

[Edited on 5-31-2008 by bajadock]

David K - 5-31-2008 at 08:54 AM

'Off Topic' is the sand box for Nomads that need to vent their politics (as if it ever changes anyone's position)...

A non-Baja trip reports (of interest, not like what elgatoloco implies) that shows places of beauty and interest... like what we post on the Baja Trip Reports and Photos forums, would be most interesting.

There is room to make more forums here Doug has told us, so Bob & Susan's concern that there isn't room for another forum or few would go, doesn't wash. In fact, there are forums here on Nomad now that nobody goes to or uses... almost at all.

We are talking about a forum that 60% who bothered to vote are interested in. Once it is done, then Ken Cooke's Colombia photos, Ken Bondy's Morro Bay underwater photos, other's Mainland Mexico photos, my Grand Canyon some posted here already as well as the potential to show Carlsbad Caverns/ Roswell UFO Museum/ Meteor Crater, etc. photos... all will have a legit place to be posted instead of breaking Nomad rules... because the majority want to see those things.

Remember, it will be in it's own forum, that you don't need to see, like Off Topic... or the rarely used or never used other Nomad forums. It hurts no one, yet pleases many! :smug:

[Edited on 9-15-2008 by David K]

windgrrl - 5-31-2008 at 09:57 AM

Absolutely - I just returned from Montreal yesterday and can share that Baja beats it hands down!

I like the empire idea

rogerj1 - 5-31-2008 at 01:43 PM

Or you could call it Old Mexico. Of course there are many other Mexico sites but this site has a unique group of users whose opinions I find valuable. With the ferry service to the mainland, the Northern coast of Mexico is a natural extension of a board about Baja.

Cypress - 5-31-2008 at 01:52 PM

Pompano, Regarding the horse picture.

Those nags are hungry, somebody needs to feed 'em.

wsdunc - 6-12-2008 at 09:53 AM

This thread has popped back up to the top, so I'll add my one cents worth again. Hanging around the Nomad forum I have vicariously met a lot of folks. Some I like, probably because they made me laugh, or showed me something beautiful, or educated me, or talked about fishing, or whatever. Some I have been not so fond of, because at the time they seemed mean spirited, or overly agressive, or just a**holes.
I love to experience different places, cultures, foods, experiences etc. When I get the opportunity to experience someplace that I think is cool, I feel the desire to share what I can (again vicariously) with my friends (that don't even know they are my friends). And I somehow believe that my "friends" will enjoy what I have to offer them. But out of respect for the board and the folks that run it I try to never knowingly break the rules. The outlaw in me keeps reminding me that it is sometime easier to ask for forgivness than permission, but the existence of this thread makes me wait and hope to do things legit. If the folks that run the board don't mind the extra burden of the forum, its hard for me to see any other good reason to not have it, as it is always possible to skip things you don't want to read, I regularly do it.
Steve

David K - 6-12-2008 at 05:00 PM

VERY well said Steve! Bravo!!

DianaT - 6-12-2008 at 05:39 PM

I originally voted yes but now wish I could change my vote after reading all of this. I find myself agreeing with many of the objections.

I would maybe think yes was OK if it was very limited to maybe the mainland, but not for everywhere. This is a forum about Baja which of course is a part of Mexico, so that might be a natural extension ---but even that is iffy, IMHO.

So, too bad there is not a way to change the vote.

Diane

David K - 6-12-2008 at 05:47 PM

Just curious: If it is a seperate forum where Nomads can share their other world wide trips with fellow Nomads... and it doesn't cause any restriction on how the Baja forums operate... why in the world would that be a problem even if you aren't interested in other Nomads photos and trips?

Ken Cooke - 6-12-2008 at 05:53 PM

For example, I do not look into the 'Baja Restaurants' forum, but on the rare occasion that I did, I am sure it would be an eye-opening experience. The same goes for reading about other's trips in different parts of the world.

BajaGringo - 6-12-2008 at 05:54 PM

If we go outside of the Baja region we would be opening ourselves up to a new crowd of posting members. They might even bring in some new breeds that refuse to conform to simply one of the two Elitist or Unwashed tribes here.

And what if they want to have signatures???

I smell trouble...

longlegsinlapaz - 6-12-2008 at 06:11 PM

What is this site's name??? It's NOT Baja via Grand Canyon Nomad, it's not Baja International Nomad and it's not even Baja/Mainland Mexico Nomad. If I want to read/see pics of Disneyland, Grand Canyon/what I did on my non-Baja summer vacation, I'll do a search for it. If I want to see pics of Aunt Nelly's visit to an Ozark hog farm, I'll do a search for that, too. :rolleyes:

I come to Baja Nomad for things that are pertinent to Baja. Color me gullible for assuming Baja means....BAJA! :lol:

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-12-2008 at 07:13 PM

Ok you Unwashed Baja Nomad Members move to one side while the Elitist Privileged Baja Nomad Members come in to dictate what should and should not be to the rest of us.

Please hit the report button if you feel picked on.

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

woody with a view - 6-12-2008 at 07:26 PM

Quote:

Ok you Unwashed Baja Nomad Members move to one side while the Elitist Privileged Baja Nomad Members come in to dictate what should and should not be to the rest of us.

Edit:
somebody call me? :?:

BTW, i'm washed and civilized now, but come wednesday after5 days "out there" it might be a different story......

:!:

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by woody in ob]

DianaT - 6-12-2008 at 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Ok you unwashed Baja Nomad members move to one side while the privileged Baja Nomad Members come in to dictate what should and should not be to the rest of us.

Please hit the report button if you feel picked on.

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

Please explain how when someone set up a poll where people expressed their opinions, and then some posted why they had that opinion, that constitutes anyone dictating to anyone else?

The owner of this forum will decide---it is HIS forum----meantime, it is a poll and opinions on both sides have been expressed.

Heck, I voted one way before and have changed my mind---but can't change my vote.

Which side do you think are dictating---the ones for or against?

Just curious

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-12-2008 at 07:48 PM

jd...When you have been a criminal investigator for over 30 plus years it does not take much investigating or analysis to ferret out the people who think they are superior to the rest of the people. They expose themselves with their own writings.

DianaT - 6-12-2008 at 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
jd...When you have been a criminal investigator for over 30 plus years it does not take much investigating or analysis to ferret out the people who think they are superior to the rest of the people. They expose themselves with their own writings.

But that does not answer the question

BajaNuts - 6-12-2008 at 08:00 PM

BAJA does mean Baja and NOMADS are just that.....roamers.

Soooo......since some members live in Baja full time and others occasionally or seasonally, does that mean that the BN member who live in Baja full time don't qualify to be members of BajaNOMADS? Nomads by definition don't have a permanent address! That being said in the spirit of spirited discussions.........

BajaNomads seems to be open to all who live in, travel to, or aspire to experience Baja Mexico, in all of it's facets.

I have no interest in Baja500 races or fishing. The forums don't seem to be overrun with those topics at this point. Properly titled posts would help...even for non-controversial posts.

I can see the camaraderie of members near and far and understand the traveling spirit. I can see where this forum is a meeting point, venting point and social connection for many. I would like to see members have the opportunity to share their travels with other member who know them or are interested.

Whether that be in a separate forum or just in properly labeled posts is a question for the mods. If members would properly title their posts, it would help everyone choose whether to view the post or not.

Either way, I hope members can share their non-Baja travels with BN members who are interested...whether it's in a properly labeled post or separate forum.

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-12-2008 at 08:04 PM

jd...Please do not think of me as a Wiseacre because I am not. Just know that is my answer.

ELINVESTI8

longlegsinlapaz - 6-12-2008 at 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Ok you Unwashed Baja Nomad Members move to one side while the Elitist Privileged Baja Nomad Members come in to dictate what should and should not be to the rest of us.

Please hit the report button if you feel picked on.

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

I don't need to hit the report button, I'm a big girl & can stand my own ground. I don't hide behind Hose A or Doug.

In case you missed it, this IS a poll thread created by Doug; he ask for input, and he got it. Of course there are going to varying opinions, that's the reason for a poll.

Why on earth you feel the need to resort to the name-calling mode because people have expressed their own personal opinions in response to a direct inquiry is beyond me. :no:

BajaNuts - 6-12-2008 at 08:16 PM

AH-HAH!!! 30-year investigator..... I get it! but not the name.....
was that typo? ELINVESTI8 ..... is that supposed to be ....el investiG8?

investi-eight -VS- investi-G-8?

I couldn't figure that name out!

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-12-2008 at 08:21 PM

I know what a poll is longlegsinlapaz, because I too had one posted until some Unknown All Knowing and All Seeing Baja Nomad Elitist Members decided they knew better for me and it was removed.

Here is a nice illustration depicting the Self-Righteous Elitist Baja Nomad member beating themselves to death on their computer complaining to whomever about us, “The Great Unwashed Baja Nomad Member.

For those of you who think you run the kingdom here, get a clue. People will eventually get sick and tired of being run roughshod over by you and will come out and say something to you. Had I the proof needed to convict someone in a criminal trial I would “Out” each and every one of you so the rest of us Unwashed Baja Nomad Members would know who you are. This place reminds me of the movie “Revenge of the Nerds” where you have the Elitists against the Nerds or as I call myself Unwashed. Well I stand here before you today and proudly proclaim to be one of the Unwashed Members of Baja Nomad. Longlegsinlapaz if you are not one of those Elitists of whom I speak then go in peace. If you are well then you know where we stand.

Here I am in all my glory. That is a recent one of me. I post it so the Elitist can confront me or avoid and shun me or even god-forbid hug and kiss me at the next big get-together. I will be coming to enjoy your company. Or Not, whichever you prefer.

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-12-2008 at 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaNuts
AH-HAH!!! 30-year investigator..... I get it! but not the name.....
was that typo? ELINVESTI8 ..... is that supposed to be ....el investiG8?

investi-eight -VS- investi-G-8?

I couldn't figure that name out!

No it's just plain elinvesti8, but you can call me:

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

bajabound2005 - 6-12-2008 at 09:05 PM

our unfinished blog....of our trip to the mainland...and the earlier "stuff" is all Baja. Nomads' choice to go there (the site) or not. We spent a week at a cooking school near Cuernavaca then followed LizardLips suggested itinerary (for us). Had a great time!
http://bajabound2006.spaces.live.com/

lizard lips - 6-12-2008 at 09:54 PM

I'm waiting for the rest!

Where is it. The trip looks great so far........

BajaNomad - 6-12-2008 at 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGringo
If we go outside of the Baja region we would be opening ourselves up to a new crowd of posting members. They might even bring in some new breeds that refuse to conform to simply one of the two Elitist or Unwashed tribes here.

And what if they want to have signatures???

I smell trouble...

David K - 6-13-2008 at 07:28 AM

A qualifier to posting in the non-Baja trip forum could be that one or more Baja trip reports must be posted before any non-Baja trip reports.

Just in case some of you are concerned that any rif raff will join Baja Nomad just to post about their vacation in Arkansas... They have to show a love for Baja first!

The whole idea is for BAJA Nomads to share their non-Baja trips... because the love for Baja makes us a bit unique and we understand what a Baja trip requires. That means other places that Nomads visit could be just as interesting to fellow Nomads.

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by David K]

DENNIS - 6-13-2008 at 08:02 AM

I think I've posted about this before, long ago, maybe in another life. BajaNomad is about Baja and people's lives while interacting with Baja. A community of familiar names and faces develops and it, in a way, becomes an extended family.
A forum of trip reports outside of Baja only temporarily strays from the Mother Land but the family member, the Nomad, is still involved making it even more inviting to enjoy their journey. After all, they will see fit and be proud to share their good time with us as we have become important to them as friends and it would seem fitting to accept their invitation to join them in a vicarious sort of way.
What could be wrong with this? If it goes badly, dump it.

I havn't read back through this thread so if I'm repeating what has already been said, my apologies.

DianaT - 6-13-2008 at 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
The whole idea is for BAJA Nomads to share their non-Baja trips... because the love for Baja makes us a bit unique and we understand what a Baja trip requires.
[Edited on 6-13-2008 by David K]

Interesting statement. How are any of us "a bit unique"

Just what does a Baja trip require?

Some:
- hit the back roads and camp
- drive drive RVs and only stay in Rv parks
- some fly down in small planes to out of the way places
- some fly in big planes and party in Cabo
- some drive only down the main highway
- some don't really travel there, they live there full or part time
- some ride bicycles
- some ride motorcycles
- some join caravan
- some sneak into the hidden surf spots---using their GPS :lol:

And we all disagree about different modes of travel and more importantly, we all disagree about the use of Baja. So unique and understand anything, IMHO, just doesn't fit. There really is nothing special about anyone on this board that cannot be found elsewhere---that is not to say that there are not a lot of special people on this board, there are many.

You suggested that to post a trip from elsewhere, maybe someone should be required to have posted one or two trips to Baja first. What would someone need to do----be a well known poster of trip reports before they could post an out of Baja trip, or would they need to submit a trip report to someone for approval first---submit along with credentials regarding other Baja trip reports. Just can't see that working very well. Can of worms

In the past, I have posted pictures of other parts of Mexico where we have traveled as have others. At first, I didn't agree with the criticism of doing so, but now I do understand.

I still favor no to the idea of a different trip forum---lots of people do post links to other sites where reports and photos can be seen for those interested.

Diane

[Edited on 6-13-2008 by jdtrotter]

Skipjack Joe - 6-13-2008 at 09:49 AM

I've always felt that a good thread is like a good conversation. It drifts from one thing to another as connections are made between ideas. Policing a thread to follow the main idea of the thread too strictly leads to uninteresting and short threads. So, I am hoping that the creation of proposed non-baja travel will not stop that.

I think a non-baja travel forum may be a good idea but it's hard to tell. It could easily get out of hand and make the website something different than what it's intended to be. I would try it and see how it goes. I am looking forward to seeing more of Ken Cooke's lovely senoritas from Colombia.