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bajabound2005 - 3-27-2008 at 06:31 PM

The correct spelling of GUERRERO NEGRO is just that. It is not Guerro Negro or any other godawfulthing we see on this board.

If you don't spell it correctly, the SEARCH function becomes useless. Unless, of course, someone wants to create a NOMAD LEXICON.

Roberto - 3-27-2008 at 06:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajabound2005
The correct spelling of GUERRERO NEGRO is just that. It is not Guerro Negro or any other godawfulthing we see on this board.

If you don't spell it correctly, the SEARCH function becomes useless. Unless, of course, someone wants to create a NOMAD LEXICON.


That assumes that the person searching knows how to spell it. Given the percentage of correct spelling to begin with, that assumption is doubtful. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

That said, I personally think that people not taking the time to learn minimal things about a foreign country they visit reflects badly upon them. But, I am obviously in the minority.:rolleyes:

Oso - 3-27-2008 at 06:35 PM

Like PuertOcitos? EnsAnada? Santa Rosillillitoa, whatever?

Roberto - 3-27-2008 at 06:41 PM

San QuEntin?

Russ - 3-27-2008 at 06:43 PM

eyez an allfull spellender two

castaway$ - 3-27-2008 at 06:54 PM

Depending on the amount of Tequila one has consumed the spelling may be Tequila correct no matter how it is spelled!

Oso - 3-27-2008 at 07:00 PM

I've always kinda liked "San Quitin" as in I'm quitin'. I've refrained from using BOLA since Roberto pointed out what an insult that was to the people of Bahia de Los Angeles. Having lived in San Francisco, I share natives' umbrage at "Frisco". But, ultimately this is an unwinable battle, no?

I'm also amazed at how many people holding themselves out as "Mexico Experts" refer to "ViNcente Fox". The man's name is Vicente, just like Vicente Fernandez. It may be the equivalent of Vincent in English, but there is no such Mexican name as "Vincente", unless of course...

[Edited on 3-28-2008 by Oso]

Oso - 3-27-2008 at 07:10 PM

BTW, "Guero Negro" would make kind of an interesting paradox, no?

DianaT - 3-27-2008 at 07:15 PM

. M R Ducks
M R Knot
O S A R, C M Wangs?
L I B
M R Ducks

Me makes lots of of them spelling mistakes, but me don't never make any grammer goofs. But we can all advice and help all accept the advise.

Tis important, I guess.

Diane

DENNIS - 3-27-2008 at 08:47 PM

Tiajuana? It probably started out like that but, I think the A has officially been dropped.

So, how about a stateside error ....Mission Viejo.
La Mision--fem......would be followed correctly by Vieja but, it sounded better the incorrect way.

bajalera - 3-27-2008 at 09:28 PM

Bad spellers have a purpose: they give good spellers opportunities to feel superior.

DENNIS - 3-27-2008 at 09:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajalera
Bad spellers have a purpose: they give good spellers opportunities to feel superior.


At least that's the way it was pre-Spell Check.

bajabound2005 - 3-27-2008 at 11:19 PM

You sillies! It's San QuEntEn not San Quintin!

BajaNomad - 3-27-2008 at 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajabound2005
The correct spelling of GUERRERO NEGRO is just that. It is not Guerro Negro or any other godawfulthing we see on this board.

If you don't spell it correctly, the SEARCH function becomes useless. Unless, of course, someone wants to create a NOMAD LEXICON.
It's one of the reasons there's also a Google search box at the bottom of the page - and if you'll notice, the default is simply a search of this site.

Try searching for "Guerro Negro" and see what you get.

:smug:

--
Doug

bajamigo - 3-27-2008 at 11:32 PM

Holy smoke! This board has an absolute monopoly on that misspelling!

:o

Taco de Baja - 3-28-2008 at 07:15 AM

Soon we'll all be Baha Nomads.....

susanna - 3-28-2008 at 08:06 AM

What about San Flippy?

sylens - 3-28-2008 at 10:49 AM

or rosaritA

vandenberg - 3-28-2008 at 11:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by sylens
or rosaritA


Makes it more palatable :?::biggrin:

Kell-Baja - 3-28-2008 at 11:46 AM

Geez, I'm kinda nervous about posting:?: Wouldn't want to get caught by the spelling police:no:

Skipjack Joe - 3-28-2008 at 12:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
BTW, "Guero Negro" would make kind of an interesting paradox, no?


I like Schwarzenegger for the same reason.

rts551 - 3-28-2008 at 12:51 PM

Peple who make two mANY speling erors out to be baned

Ken Bondy - 3-28-2008 at 01:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
I've refrained from using BOLA since Roberto pointed out what an insult that was to the people of Bahia de Los Angeles. Having lived in San Francisco, I share natives' umbrage at "Frisco". But, ultimately this is an unwinable battle, no?
[Edited on 3-28-2008 by Oso]


This is probably one of many dumb questions I have in storage, but what exactly is the objection to "BOLA"? Is it simply the abbreviation (i.e., "Frisco" versus "San Francisco") or is it something deeper than that? I have known for years that "BOLA" is not politically correct, but I have never known why.

++Ken++

DENNIS - 3-28-2008 at 01:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Bondy
I have known for years that "BOLA" is not politically correct, but I have never known why.

++Ken++


Mexico converses largely with acronyms such as BOLA. This one may not pass their test because it's an acronym for a pile of English words, leaving the Mexican with a term for his town which translates to "Ball."

Kell-Baja - 3-28-2008 at 01:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rts551
Peple who make two mANY speling erors out to be baned


I shure do agriee:bounce:

tripledigitken - 3-28-2008 at 02:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Ken Bondy
I have known for years that "BOLA" is not politically correct, but I have never known why.

++Ken++


Mexico converses largely with acronyms such as BOLA. This one may not pass their test because it's an acronym for a pile of English words, leaving the Mexican with a term for his town which translates to "Ball."



A new ad campaign for Bahia de Los Angeles..............

Have a ball in BOLA!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Taco de Baja - 3-28-2008 at 03:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Tiajuana? It probably started out like that but, I think the A has officially been dropped.

So, how about a stateside error ....Mission Viejo.
La Mision--fem......would be followed correctly by Vieja but, it sounded better the incorrect way.


Actually Mission Viejo is technically correct, as it originally was part of Rancho Mission Viejo (RMV). And Rancho is masculine....

RMV was established in 1882 at a size of 200,000 acres and was composed of Rancho Mission Viejo, Rancho Santa Margarita y Las Flores, and Rancho Trabuco. What became the City of Mission Viejo was split off from the original Rancho when it was developed the 1960's.

Descendants of the original families still own and farm a little over 20,000 acres of the original RMV land. The government, of course, bought the Rancho Santa Margarita y Las Flores portion for Camp Pendleton in WWII.

For those who are interested in more:
RMV history

David K - 3-28-2008 at 04:40 PM

In Del Mar (San Diego County) is a major street Via de la Valle (LA Valle???) Nobody checked before the road was named, I guess...:?:

In the bathrooms, it was LAVE SUS MANOS for many years! :yes:

La Jolla (California) is actually supposed to mean The Jewel... which in Spanish is LA JOYA!:o

As for Baja place names: Puertecitos, Guerrero Negro, Alfonsina's, Santa Rosalillita, Santo Tomas, San Vicente, San Quintin, Los Barriles, Loreto, Mulege, Rosarito are all frequently mis-spelled... and we have had many a posts about that over the years.

bajajudy - 3-28-2008 at 04:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K

In the bathrooms, it was LAVE SUS MANOS for many years! :yes:



And how would you say that correctly?

David K - 3-28-2008 at 05:13 PM

In Spanish it's LAS MANOS, because it is assumed they are your hands, so you say 'the hands'.... Lavese las manos.

Manos is one of those rare words like agua which uses the opposite gender form of the: EL Agua, LAS Manos...

DanO - 3-28-2008 at 05:42 PM

Please is not spelled PLS. Just saying.

DianaT - 3-28-2008 at 05:52 PM

Sad to see the spelling police back in full force. :no::no:

So, I guess there will also be no more IMHO, or BTW, or the one I would like to share with the spelling police STFU.

Now, let us think of other ways others can intimidate people who might want to post.


Diane



[Edited on 3-29-2008 by jdtrotter]

meme - 3-29-2008 at 08:12 AM

WTG Diane!!:biggrin::biggrin::lol:
You said it all! LUV IT!!:yes::yes::yes:

sylens - 3-29-2008 at 09:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DanO
Please is not spelled PLS. Just saying.


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

David K - 3-29-2008 at 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lencho
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Manos is one of those rare words like agua which uses the opposite gender form of the: EL Agua, LAS Manos...

Care to clarify that statement? :)

Fact: Both nouns are feminine.

--Larry


Okay, some words that end in an O are feminine, and some that end with an A are masculine... is that better Larry?

EMAM - 3-29-2008 at 10:26 AM

I just joked with my wife that after a few months in Baja, our spellcheck on our computer is going to have a new Spanish Edition added after trying to name all the places we've been on our travel blogs.

I try and always check my speeling off of the maps or travel books we have....so hopefully I'm safe

rts551 - 3-29-2008 at 12:26 PM

you are never safe on this board!!!!!!!!!:yes::yes::yes::yes:

David K - 3-29-2008 at 05:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by EMAM
I just joked with my wife that after a few months in Baja, our spellcheck on our computer is going to have a new Spanish Edition added after trying to name all the places we've been on our travel blogs.

I try and always check my speeling off of the maps or travel books we have....so hopefully I'm safe


So is it okay for someone here to let you know the place where you saw those manta rays flying is LOS BARRILES (not Berriles)?
;D

Seroiusly, those photos are outstanding... I hope they get selected for next year's Baja Calendar! Marv Sherrill used two of my photos this year, and one of the Bighorn sheep shots made it. Order one from the Tienda Baja Nomad!

bajabound2005 - 3-29-2008 at 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by EMAM
I just joked with my wife that after a few months in Baja, our spellcheck on our computer is going to have a new Spanish Edition added after trying to name all the places we've been on our travel blogs.

I try and always check my speeling off of the maps or travel books we have....so hopefully I'm safe


Oops! Better check your speeling of spelling:spingrin:

Roberto - 3-29-2008 at 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by lencho
not because "agua" breaks some "gender rule" as does "manos"


The "el" does break the rule, though, right? I mean it should be the feminine article "la" otherwise.

I've asked the question of educated mexicans many times - nobody was able to explain why "el agua" instead of "la agua". You're the first, and you're not even a native speaker! Where'd you get that information?

DianaT - 3-29-2008 at 06:07 PM

OK, OK,

My previous post stated how I felt about the spelling police, but they seem alive and well and very focused.

So, let's see how we can intimidate and encourage more people NOT to post because they, gods forbid, may make a spelling, or even worse a GRAMMAR error. :?::?:

Here are some of the common errors that change meaning, and we sure don't want THAT to happen. :no::no:

1. there, their or they're --- very different words

2. advise and advice---different parts of speech and we all know that to use a verb when a noun is needed is just awful.

3. well and good----different---again, adverb vs adjective---very different meanings.

4. its and it's --- breaks a common rule but " it's" is not possesive, it is a contraction

5. who and whom --- subject pronoun vs. object pronoun

6. AND please, never say "It was me" when it should be "It was I" -- predicate nominative.

Thus, if making sure you compose your posts with perfect Spanish spelling is so important, doesn't it follow that perfect English spelling and grammar should also be required?

(Above sentence could use some grammar improvement)

Careful folks, the spelling and grammar police are watching. :o:o

Last thought (opps, incomplete sentence) Typographical errors are simply now allowed.

Diane

bajabound2005 - 3-29-2008 at 06:15 PM

and don't forget punctuation....eats shoots and leaves. Or wait, is it eats, shoots, and leaves? Or is it eats shoots, and leaves?

And spelling errors and typos, that's okay. But when you spell the name of a TOWN wrong...well, you can't even find it on the map!

[Edited on 3-30-2008 by bajabound2005]

DianaT - 3-29-2008 at 06:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajabound2005

And spelling errors and typos, that's okay. But when you spell the name of a TOWN wrong...well, you can't even find it on the map!

[Edited on 3-30-2008 by bajabound2005]


But, if it is close, I think most can find it or ask for clarification. Besides, even with correct spelling, it often needs clarification ----which San Juanico, or which Punta Prieta, etc.

Opps, the use of etc. is just a lazy way to avoid more examples. I guess it should be banned.

[Edited on 3-30-2008 by jdtrotter]

bajabound2005 - 3-29-2008 at 06:27 PM

Oh, Diane!!! It's OOPS not OPPS :spingrin:

DianaT - 3-29-2008 at 06:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajabound2005
Oh, Diane!!! It's OOPS not OPPS :spingrin:


That is it---I am totally humiliated--I shall now be required to go to my room for a VERY long time. I am a fallen nomad.
:no::no::no:

I will accept my punishment and drink a bottle of white zinfindel. :barf::barf:

Diane



[Edited on 3-30-2008 by jdtrotter]

EMAM - 3-29-2008 at 11:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajabound2005
Quote:
Originally posted by EMAM
I just joked with my wife that after a few months in Baja, our spellcheck on our computer is going to have a new Spanish Edition added after trying to name all the places we've been on our travel blogs.

I try and always check my speeling off of the maps or travel books we have....so hopefully I'm safe


Oops! Better check your speeling of spelling:spingrin:


That was on purpose:P

[Edited on 1-02-2008 by EMAM]

Capt. George - 3-30-2008 at 03:13 AM

Punta Abreblowjos?

DENNIS - 3-30-2008 at 07:02 AM

Menendero

Putabanda

Loredo

Chapulpatec

Chapootapec

San Vincente

Santa Rosalita

[Edited on 3-30-2008 by DENNIS]

Bob and Susan - 3-30-2008 at 07:04 AM

jbtrottter...where is bruch leech when we NEED him:biggrin::biggrin:

Osprey - 3-30-2008 at 07:18 AM

But seriously folks....... Bajabound wasn't trying to be the POlice. He did us a favor I think by reminding us to try harder to communicate better. For many of us, the message in the post is our persona -- it's who we are (or how we want to be perceived). That perception is key in a true forum where people share not only information but ideas and personal things which can create real friendships between board members. When the forum is used for travel info don't knowledgeable Bajaphiles want to make sure place names are correct? We don't want to send new Baja travelers to the wrong place or suggest he buy a couple of Rapoolas for fishing. There will always be enough members who are either uninformed or apathetic (they say "I don't know and I don't care")( pun intended ) for those of us struggling to be better communicators to snipe at.

bajabound2005 - 3-30-2008 at 08:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
But seriously folks....... Bajabound wasn't trying to be the POlice. He did us a favor


That would be SHE!

Osprey - 3-30-2008 at 08:29 AM

Sorry

DianaT - 3-30-2008 at 09:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
But seriously folks....... Bajabound wasn't trying to be the POlice.


That I believe, but there are others around who seem to thrive on pointing out the errors of others.

Oh, BTW, is it police or POlice? Or was that poetic license for making a point? :lol::lol::lol:

Seriously, I just think it can become quite intimidating, and irritating.

Ok, now off to Putabanda---just as soon as Dennis explains where that place is. :P:P

Diane