BajaNomad - 2008 Baja 500 (Link to Official Results added)

2008 Baja 500 (Link to Official Results added)

David K - 5-11-2008 at 10:06 AM

We arrived late for the Baja Pits meeting yesterday, but chatted with Carlos about the course... which STILL isn't posted on the SCORE web site (as of this morning).

For the first time in many years, it will go into the desert: from Ensenada to the Pine Forest then over The Summit and drop down into the desert to Cohabuzo Jcn., to Borrego Wash, back west via San Matias Pass, NOT go down to Mike's Sky Rancho, west to the beach then back north to Ensenada.

Scroll down to see the course map, added... and a link to the live-action GPS map so you can follow your favorite racer around Baja!

[Edited on 6-1-2008 by David K]

tunaeater - 5-11-2008 at 01:16 PM

Hopefully the map will be posted tomorrow. We are waiting to discuss rider sections and chase stratgey.

Gadget - 5-11-2008 at 01:56 PM

Sorry I missed you David, I left about 11:30.

Entries are pretty light at 271 when I looked yesterday. Last year for the 500 at this time they had gone over 400.

Let us know what your plans are.

David K - 5-11-2008 at 04:24 PM

Thanks Will...

Elizabeth and I wanted to visit with you and Leslie... but between Saturday morning routine and the traffic from Oceanside to El Cajon, we didn't arrive until about 12:30. We were surprised that Roy wasn't still there... but we did have him here for dinner the other night when he brought the photos up for me to post. So, we had a chance to get up to date on Roy's trip then.

Edguero - 5-11-2008 at 07:59 PM

So the pass through Erindira (sp) could not be on the course?
Just asking cause I don't have a map handy.

David K - 5-12-2008 at 08:35 AM

Edguero, no map on SCORE's site this morning... However, if the race pops out from Valle Trinidad to cross Hwy. 1 just south of San Vicente heading to the coast... then it would indeed pass through Ejido Erendira on the way north to Ensenada, if it follows the beach.

Gadget - 5-12-2008 at 11:23 AM

From a very reliable source, the race WILL NOT be going through Santo Tomas. There would be no way to run Erindera without doing S.T. Course slightly bypasses Mikes and heads back to Ojos. This is why it is headed over the Summit to Cohobuzo to make the mileage.

The treats from the cops there regarding the Riviera TT were stated as a concern.

Go to racedez site to research that whole story if interested.

TMW - 5-12-2008 at 05:54 PM

Looks like a fun course. Not much new stuff. Coming up the hill to San Matias I think hasn't been run in a while. Not much hwy, which is good. I can't remember the last time they ran the summit in a 500 race. They were going to do a loop by going over the summit and back up a lower summit just to the south in 95 or 96 but didn't after a lot of racer whining about how tough it was. I preran it in my Toyota and a motorcycle and later did the reverse loop on a Honda Trail 110. Have to admit I did bulldog the 110 down the south summit cause the brakes and small tires didn't work too well on the steep sections. They haven't finished at the convention center in a while either, usually the baseball statium.

[Edited on 5-13-2008 by TW]

surfer jim - 5-12-2008 at 07:29 PM

If my math is correct looks like about 140 truck/buggies entered so far....seems like a low number......

Looks like I will be going and helping chase a 7 open..... :tumble:

TMW - 5-13-2008 at 06:59 AM

I think it will be a while before we see 400 entries again. Housing construction is way off and the publicity about the kidnappings and shootings in Baja don't help either. By race day if they can come close to 290-300 I'd say that's good. I think in the early to mid 90s entries were down to low 200s for a while.

David K - 5-14-2008 at 07:21 AM

Here's the map using photobucket...]

tunaeater - 5-15-2008 at 01:20 PM

Thanks David

I will be racing the 305X bike from RM 105-205 and then the 254X bike from RM205-270 and RM405-Finish.

I hope I see you out there. It's been a while since I've seen you and Elizabeth. I think the SF 250 in 2005 down at my dads house maybe was the last time.

The 305x bike wil be using Baja pits so if you are there say Hi.

Paul

Gadget - 5-15-2008 at 02:35 PM

We'll be looking for you at pit 3.

Good skill to you!

David K - 5-15-2008 at 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tunaeater
Thanks David

I will be racing the 305X bike from RM 105-205 and then the 254X bike from RM205-270 and RM405-Finish.

I hope I see you out there. It's been a while since I've seen you and Elizabeth. I think the SF 250 in 2005 down at my dads house maybe was the last time.

The 305x bike wil be using Baja pits so if you are there say Hi.

Paul

Hi Paul,

It would be neat to see you race, for sure!

Elizabeth and I are taking a 4 day beach vacation over Memorial Day, which is the weekend before the Baja 500. Because of that, I kinda doubt that we will come back south 3 days later.

So, we both wish you much success on your rides!

If I am looking at the map correctly you will be riding bike #305X from Nuevo Jcn. to Borrego Wash.... AND bike #254X from Borrego Wash to Valle Trinidad and hopefully remount it for the final run from Ojos Negros to the finish line!! :bounce:

Photo of Paul and his posse at the beach camp north of Coloradito, Feb., 2005.

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tunaeater - 5-16-2008 at 08:12 PM

Thats it David you got it right on the money.

I got the HOT sections...

Gadget I'll be on the bike at pit#3. What a nice way to introduce ourselves.

Gadget - 5-16-2008 at 08:21 PM

Cool!

Careful down the summit Paul :!:

I hope I will still be in the pit when you come by. I was out of the pit on rescue and recovery for almost the entire race when we pitted the 1000 in 05' at this location.

Hope you guys all take it a little easier this time till you get past us.

We'll be looking for 305X!

David K - 5-17-2008 at 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tunaeater
Thats it David you got it right on the money.

I got the HOT sections...

Gadget I'll be on the bike at pit#3. What a nice way to introduce ourselves.

Paul, here is Gadget... (photo taken at Las Pintas, last year's El Rosario Festival)

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David K - 5-17-2008 at 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gadget
Cool!

Careful down the summit Paul :!:

Gadget, here is Paul 'tunaeater' (taken at Nuevo Mazatlan at our Nomad Matomi Group Campout):

Baja 500 up to 281 entries 37 in SPTS M/C OVER class

TMW - 5-19-2008 at 05:56 PM

UPDATED ENTRY LIST - 281
May 15, 2008 - 16:35:33
2008 TECATE SCORE BAJA 500 ENTRY LIST
* Denotes Points Champion

SCORE TROPHY TRUCK: 22
35 Robbie Pierce
36 Cameron Steele
*1 Mark Post
39 Ron Whitton
4 Gustavo Vildosola, Jr
97 B.J. Baldwin
2 Pete Sohren
12 Brian Collins
33 Chad Ragland
8 Roger Norman
28 Alan Pfleuger
96 Bobby Baldwin
22 Damen Jefferies
54 Jesse James
38 Garron Cadiente
84 Nick Vanderwey
7 Scott Steinberger
34 Danny Sullivan
77 Robby Gordon
71 Rick D. Johnson
60 Mike Voudouris
50 Jason McNeil

CLASS 1: 23
101 Josh Rigsby
*100 Billy Gasper
103 Enrique Bujanda
104 Paul Keller
105 Jeff Farris
106 Chuck Dempsey
107 Pat Dean
108 Armin Schwarz
109 Luis Ramirez, Jr.
110 B.J. Richardson
111 Dale Lenk
112 Ryan Sharman
113 Eric Chase
114 Mike Voyles
115 Robert Ross
116 Rob Bruce
117 Will Higman W/D 5/12
118 Lobsam Yee
119 Ron Brant
120 Brian Parkhouse
121 Armin Kremer
122 Rick Ellison
123 Dale Ebberts

149 Adam Lunn-1st RS

CLASS 1/2-1600: 19
1601 Arturo Velazco
1602 Adam Pfankuch
*1600 Dave Caspino
1604 Roman Pereyra P.
1605 Edgar Alvarez, Jr.
1606 Cory Boyer
1607 Viry Felix
1608 Max Hanberg
1609 Arnoldo Ramirez M.
1610 Ramiro Escobedo
1611 Adrian Soto
1612 Edgar Avalos

1643 Ray Files-7th RS
1644 Gerardo Iribe-6th RS
1645 Hiram Duran-5th RS
1646 Hector Garcia-4th RS
1647 Eliseo Garcia-3rd RS
1648 Josue Delgado A.-2nd RS
1649 Juan Gallo-1st RS

CLASS 3: 1
301 Donald Moss

CLASS 5: 3
501 Kevin Carr
502 George Seeley

519 Carlos Albanez-1st RS

CLASS 5-1600: 14
551 Gustavo Avina O.
552 Ernie Negrete
*550 Mario Reynoso
554 Ruben Gutierrez, Jr.
555 Tommy Craft
556 Alonso Angulo
557 Pedro Athie

573 Carlos Iribe-7th RS
574 Ernesto Arambula-6th RS
575 Javier Morales-5th RS
576 Saul Garcia-4th RS
577 Marcos Nunez-3rd RS
578 Omar Dipp Nunez-2nd RS
579 Jose Montoya E.-1st RS

CLASS 7: 4
701 Brandon Walsh
*700 Dan Chamlee
703 Scott Ulrich

719 Rick Battey-1st RS

CLASS 7SX: 6
*740 Rich Severson
741 Heidi Steele
742 Beto Iriarte

757 Mike Horner-3rd RS
758 John Holmes-2nd RS
759 Jeff Fuller-1st RS

CLASS 8: 1
801 Noah Ostanik

CLASS 9: 1
949 Daniel Reyes, Jr.-1st RS

CLASS 10: 8
1001 Mark Hutchins
1002 Mikey Lawrence
1003 Brendan Fikes
1004 Alex Crosthwaite
1005 Tito Robles
1006 Will Higman W/D 5/12
1007 Rocky Merino
1008 Jesus J. Gonzalez

1049 Javier Buelna-1st RS

CLASS 11: 8
1101 Eric Solorzano
1102 Ernesto Martinez, Jr.
1103 Neri Sanchez B.
1104 Mauro Diaz
*1100 Ramon Fernandez

1147 Jacob Mueller-3rd RS
1148 Carlos Villa N.-2nd RS
1149 John Ledyard-1st RS

SCORE LITES: 13
1201 Brian Burgess W/D 5/10
1202 Tim Pangborn
1203 Jake Jones
1204 Gary Johnson
1205 Luis Barragan
1206 Perry McNeil
1207 John Padgett
1208 Bill Hernquist
1209 Barbara Terry
1210 Steve Mamer
1211 Aaron Payne
1212 Rick St.John
1213 David Callaway W/D 4/22
1214 Ricardo Malo W/D 5/12
1215 Lee Banning

1249 David Callaway-1st RS

STOCK MINI: 3
*760 Rod Hall
761 Steve Kovach

779 Gavin Skilton-1st RS

STOCK FULL: 6
861 Josh Hall
862 Chad Hall
863 Pedro Vargas
864 Kent Kroeker
*860 John Griffin

879 Clyde Stacy-1st RS

PROTRUCK: 7
250 Gary Magness
203 Dave Creagan
234 Rob Reinertson
235 Jason Voss
253 Ken Losch
282 Jason Jernigan

240 Rob Kittleson-1st RS

SPORTSMAN BUGGY: 3
1401 Wendell Mortensen
*1400 Peter Lang
1403 Rob Caveney

SPORTSMAN TRUCK: 4
1501 Bob Land
1502 Joe Aguayo

1548 Gregg Hempel-2nd RS
1549 Randy Swink-1st RS

SPORTSMAN UTV: 3
*1800 Thomas Graves
1801 Mark Page

1819 Mark Lindsay-1st RS

CLASS 20: 4
151x Chad Black
152x Larry Perkins
153x Duane Dickinson

179x Anna Cody-1st RS

CLASS 21: 5
101x Robert Gustine
102x Jonah Street
103x Edy Garcia
104x Bernard Bohrer
*100x Carlos Casas

CLASS 22: 18
2x Anthony Pico
3x Grant Steele
4x Jimmy Roberts
*1x Robby Bell
6x Cory Brewer
7x Jesse Sharpe
8x Ryan Penhall
9x Cory Evenson
10x Michael Gordon
11x Nicholas Blais
12x Nick Saia
13x Caleb Gosselaar
14x Keith Webster
15x Terence Montelongo
16x Adrian Rodriguez
17x Ivan Ramirez
18x Sammuel Garcia

49x Daniel Allford-1st RS

CLASS 30: 11
301x Chad Erl
302x Chris Parker
303x Scott Myers
304x Dennis Green
305x Ricardo De La Pena
*300x Jim O'Neal
307x Matt Reynolds
308x Joey Maytorena
309x Javier Hernandez B.
310x Mike Johnson
311x Jamey Kabisch

CLASS 40: 4
*400x Brett Helm
401x Stuart Goggins
402x Kevin Newton

449x Todd Winslow-1st RS

CLASS 50: 6
501x Jaime De La Torre
502x Eizaburo Karasawa
*500x Jim O'Neal
504x Charles Marshall
505x Kenny Hayden
506x Lyman Scherer

CLASS 60: 1
618x Richard Jackson W/D 5/12
*600x Donald Lewis-1st RS

CLASS 24: 12
101a Kyle Needham W/D 4/21
102a Craig Christy
103a Benjamin Lopez, Jr.
104a Ray Fay III
105a Javier Beltran
106a Francisco Servin
107a Carl Penny
108a Rodrigo Gonzalez, Jr.
109a Abraham Romero
110a Romulo Gomez
111a Carlos Mancillas
112a Jorge Juvera

149a Luis Berumen-1st RS

CLASS 25: 11
2a Jason Greenhaw
3a Wayne Matlock
4a Javier Robles
5a Reid Rutherford
6a Max Hernandez
7a Stefano Caputo
*1a Danny Prather
9a Travis Dillon
10a Kyle Needham
11a Charles Barfield
12a Joel Aldrete

SPTS. M/C UNDER: 9
201x Tony Gurule
202x Glen McGuire W/D 4/23
203x Anthony Arballo
204x Nemrod Bracamontes
205x Todd Goetze W/D 4/21
206x Fred Sobke
207x Matt Ladendorf
208x Trisha West
209x Marco Bernaldez
210x Scott Anderson
211x Jesus Rios

SPTS. M/C OVER: 37
251x Hiroshi Hirakawa
252x Chad Thornton
253x Thomas Cushman
254x Andy Padulo
255x Adam Neuwirth W/D 4/30
256x Carlos Becerril
257x Masaaki Senoo
258x Andrew Hursh
259x John Crowley
260x David Rentfro
261x Pat Moore
262x Gary Sparks
263x Thierry Mas
264x Bryce Wright W/D 5/12
265x Craig Anstine
266x Kazuhiro Nakamur
267x Jason Scherer
268x Jorge Rivas
269x Brent Deaton
270x Jeb Avery
271x Bill Gilbert
272x Andrew Gutierrez
273x Randy Roy
274x Bryan Slaughter
275x Todd Goetze
276x Gary Gonzales
277x Glen McGuire
278x Chris Shewmaker
279x Levi Colton
280x Ken Kosiorek
281x J. Enrique Guerra L.
282x Mark Bradford
283x Tibi Imbuzan
284x Nick Imbuzan
285x Stephan Hoffmann
286x Edward Fields
287x Larry Butler

298x John Legate-2nd RS
299x Jeff Leonard-1st RS

SPTS. ATV: 14
51a Luciano Felix
52a Daniel Montano
53a Julio Gomez P.
54a Flavio Perez, Jr.
55a Charles Barfield W/D 4/29
56a Ken Lehmann
57a Derek Christina
58a Alan Wahlstrom
59a Victor Lopez Q.
60a Mario Yorba
61a Jorge Valenzuela
62a Roberto Ruiz
63a Joselito Muro
64a Eric Ibarra

99a Gustavo Ameca-1st RS

281 TOTAL

Score International Off Road Racing 2008

David K - 5-19-2008 at 06:02 PM

Thanks TW... Really sad Class 3, 8, 9 only have one entry! No money to gain, just in it for fun?

Roberto - 5-19-2008 at 08:58 PM

There's no money to gain in ANY of the classes.

TMW - 5-20-2008 at 07:35 AM

I think class 8 is really sad. Once the premier truck class with Walker Evans, Robby Gordon and Larry Ragland with overall wins. Many great racers did good in that class. I think there would have been many more OA wins if they had started in front of the buggies. The two races that I remember most was RG's OA win in 1989 and Brian Stewart's class win, 1990 maybe, he blew a tranny at Ojos and was down 2-3 hours. I remember Dave Westim (sp) GMC truck broke on the summit. I went past on a bike, I was running way behind thanks to a one eyed co-rider but that's another story. Then later in Matomi wash I passed him again. I think Dave was blowing power steering pumps.

David K - 5-20-2008 at 08:24 AM

Well, when I was more involved... Score had a 50% payback per class for the winners... ie. If 10 racers were in a class and the entry fee was $500 per racer ($5,000) then 50% ($2,500) was paid back to the top 1,2, or 3 finishers (depending on how many were entered).

If a class had too few entries, then classes were combined so there would be some money to pay back.

Most of the winnings came from the manufactorers in the form of contingency awards... ie. If you won using Brand X, then there was an awrd from Brand X... usually $1,000 or more. That's why you see lots of stickers on race cars... to show what products you are using for publicity photos and the money if you do good!

I know things change... just wondering how the payback works when there is only one of a few entries in a class?

Gone are Class 2 (2 seat unlimited), Class 4 (long wheelbase 4WD), Class 6 (Production 2WD water cooled passenger cars).

[Edited on 5-20-2008 by David K]

Gadget - 5-20-2008 at 01:12 PM

Class 8 specs are pretty liberal now. More or less a TT with a pair of frame rails going along for the ride. So a guys asks, "whats the point".

The LM class 8 is just that. See RaceDezert.com and do a search for Mark Newhan to see build up photos.

Mark really pushed the limits as to what would clear tech, but then when he and Paul saw how many entries they had to run through in the open wheel classes they entered it in TT. Pauls illness caused a withdraw for the 1000.

Now that Mark has delivered the prototype assault vehicle to the military, he said the race effort is back on to finish the truck.

Many of us think that SCORE should rearrange the class start positions so that the now allowed high horsepower truck classes don't have to run through so many of the lower horsepower buggies.

Some say the open wheel entries are way faster in the rough and tight stuff, which is granted, but the big hp rigs are much faster on the open parts of the course. And there are a hand full to be passed by 40+, rather than the other way around. I think this would re-energize class 8, protruck, 3 etc.

[Edited on 5-21-2008 by Gadget]

Ken Cooke - 5-20-2008 at 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gadget
Cool!

Careful down the summit Paul :!:

X2. TW is pictured with the summit road in his background. Very steep sections combined with lots of rocks and loose sections make for a harrowing descent.

I couldn't resist...this is TW taking care of Baja Water Tank inspection.LOL

[Edited on 5-21-2008 by Ken Cooke]

TMW - 5-22-2008 at 04:41 PM

The entry list is growing by leaps and bounds.

UPDATED ENTRY LIST - 300
May 22, 2008 - 13:01:45

David K - 5-30-2008 at 05:45 PM

Watch the racers on the course with the live GPS map... pick which racers you want to follow on the live map as they bounce around Baja... LIVE BAJA 500 RACE MAP SAT. MAY 31

David K - 5-31-2008 at 09:25 AM

We are cheering on Paul Lopez 'tunaeater' on #305X (Class 30) and #254X (Sportsman m/c)

David K - 5-31-2008 at 09:50 AM

"If I am looking at the map correctly you will be riding bike #305X from Nuevo Jcn. to Borrego Wash.... AND bike #254X from Borrego Wash to Valle Trinidad and hopefully remount it for the final run from Ojos Negros to the finish line!!"

Looks bad for this plan, as 305X is way back at Mile 22, but 254X is already at Mile 115!

surfer jim - 5-31-2008 at 05:03 PM

Got the live WEATHERMAN feed this morning about 9:30 am.....just tried now...5PM and can't connect to RDC.....

David K - 6-1-2008 at 08:16 AM

Loads of posts from The Baja 500, the support teams, etc.: http://race-dezert.com/

David K - 6-1-2008 at 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Watch the racers on the course with the live GPS map... pick which racers you want to follow on the live map as they bounce around Baja... LIVE BAJA 500 RACE MAP SAT. MAY 31

Still lots of racers out on the course!

The Results!

David K - 6-1-2008 at 03:53 PM

Race-Dezert.com has the official results:

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44474

Note that the time difference between the first and second place Trophy Trucks (Baldwin & Post)!

Pops - 6-1-2008 at 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
There's no money to gain in ANY of the classes.

The old saying is " The way to make a small fortune in off road racing, is to start with a large one"!!!