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Mexican Citizenship new required exam

flyfishinPam - 5-19-2008 at 09:09 AM

I am scheduled to take the newly required "Mexican History Exam" as part of my citizenship tramite. I did some searches in English for some example test questions to help me study and came up with nada. Then I did some searches in espanol and bingo. here is a very detailed thread to focus on if you will be taking this test in the future:

http://www.mexicolegal.com.mx/consultas/r119881.htm

IMHO this is more like Mexican Trivial Persuit than a legitimate history exam

I'm hoping this may help those who will be taking the test in the future.

Pescador - 5-19-2008 at 10:03 AM

Isn't it amazing that Amnesty International, the ACLU, and all the whacko's have not gotten ahold of this and started protesting that this exam is unfair?

Julie - 5-19-2008 at 10:15 AM

Pam
I took the second test in March, boy was it hard. You have only 5 questions and must answer 4 correct. Give me a call and I'll fill you in.
Yes I did pass but have way too much info in my head.
Go ahead ask me a question!!

flyfishinPam - 5-19-2008 at 10:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Julie
Pam
I took the second test in March, boy was it hard. You have only 5 questions and must answer 4 correct. Give me a call and I'll fill you in.
Yes I did pass but have way too much info in my head.
Go ahead ask me a question!!


OK hows deeze for questions:

quien fundo el PRI y el PAN y el PRD?
a quien se les llama los choriceros?
que persona e la television le llaman Fabiruchis?
quien y donde se invento la tortilla?
quien es Francisco Gabilondo Soler?
quien es el secretario del gobernacion?
quien es el jefe de DF?
quien es el gobernador actual del estado de Mexico?
de donde son, los camoteros, los freseros y los tuneros?
cuantos años tiene la chilindrina?

well I made the last one up. history and geography questions are a cakewalk I can even handle political structure questions but these are purely loco!


:mad:

Julie - 5-19-2008 at 10:42 AM

Don't forget who wrote the lyrics and who composed the music to the national anthem.

flyfishinPam - 5-19-2008 at 10:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Julie
Don't forget who wrote the lyrics and who composed the music to the national anthem.


escrito por Francisco Gonzales Bocanegra con mucisa por Jaime Nuño?

Ok

un para ti: que color de truzas prefiere el expresidente Vincente Fox Quesada?

y otra:
quien gano el premio de academia premier generacion? y el segundo??

TMW - 5-19-2008 at 02:10 PM

quien y donde se invento la tortilla?

And the answer is?

Russ - 5-19-2008 at 04:17 PM

mama Espanosa?

Cypress - 5-19-2008 at 04:54 PM

I'm happy to visit Mexico now and then, have no desire to become a citizen, I'm a citizen of the greatest country on the planet earth. Thank You Lord for allowing me to born in the USA.:D

Quien y donde se invento la tortilla?

Marla Daily - 5-20-2008 at 06:58 AM

TORTILLA = "Little cake"
Torta=cake, plus the diminutive -illa.

ORIGIN: The traditional tortilla has been made of corn or maize since
Pre-Columbian times. Their origin is generally credited to the Aztec in Mexico.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/images/smilies/tumble.gif

The Spanish word, tortilla, takes different forms in different countries. The
Mexican form is the most well-known in North America. In Panama, a tortilla resembles a hockey puck in form and density. In Spain and South America a tortilla is a round, layered omlette, unfolded.

It is made by curing maize in lime water in a process known as nixtamalization
which causes the skin of the corn kernels to peel off (the waste material is typically
fed to poultry), then grinding and pre-cooking it, kneading it into a dough called masa nixtamalera, pressing it flat into thin patties, and cooking it on a very hot
comal (originally a flat terra cotta griddle, now usually made instead of light sheet-metal). Soaking the maize in lime water is important because it liberates the vitamin niacin and the amino acid tryptophan. When maize was brought back to Europe, Africa and Asia from the New World, people left out this crucial step. People whose diet consisted mostly of corn meal often became sick, because of the lack of niacin and tryptophan, with the disease pellagra, which was common in Spain, Northern Italy and the southern United States.

RECIPE: 4 Cups flour; 1/2 Cup shortening; 1 teaspoon salt; 1 Cup warm water
[Wikipedia]

flyfishinPam - 5-20-2008 at 08:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Marla Daily
TORTILLA = "Little cake"
Torta=cake, plus the diminutive -illa.

ORIGIN: The traditional tortilla has been made of corn or maize since
Pre-Columbian times. Their origin is generally credited to the Aztec in Mexico.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/images/smilies/tumble.gif

The Spanish word, tortilla, takes different forms in different countries. The
Mexican form is the most well-known in North America. In Panama, a tortilla resembles a hockey puck in form and density. In Spain and South America a tortilla is a round, layered omlette, unfolded.

It is made by curing maize in lime water in a process known as nixtamalization
which causes the skin of the corn kernels to peel off (the waste material is typically
fed to poultry), then grinding and pre-cooking it, kneading it into a dough called masa nixtamalera, pressing it flat into thin patties, and cooking it on a very hot
comal (originally a flat terra cotta griddle, now usually made instead of light sheet-metal). Soaking the maize in lime water is important because it liberates the vitamin niacin and the amino acid tryptophan. When maize was brought back to Europe, Africa and Asia from the New World, people left out this crucial step. People whose diet consisted mostly of corn meal often became sick, because of the lack of niacin and tryptophan, with the disease pellagra, which was common in Spain, Northern Italy and the southern United States.

RECIPE: 4 Cups flour; 1/2 Cup shortening; 1 teaspoon salt; 1 Cup warm water
[Wikipedia]


this basic description of the CORN tortilla being invented in pre columbian times as early as 10,000BC is what I have been coming up with too. mi suegra and I have made them many times...boil corn that we buy at the feed store with cal (lime) then allow to cool, then grind it as we need it. we use a metal hand crank grinder but a more traditional method is the metate. I can't find a metate in Loreto and have been looking for years...if anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it as its the ONLY way to get a good paste for pipian...anyway then we combine the masa with boiling water and form the tortillas with our hands patting them flat. they're cooked on a comal and voila done. the thick ones can be opened up and stuffed with goodies, we call these gorditas.
I am of the opinion that flour tortilla-like bread was likely "invented" or first used by the chinese but the corn tortillas were definately a true american invention.

gotta get back to studying test is t 9am manaña

DENNIS - 5-20-2008 at 08:06 AM

And the flour tortilla? Probably a US invention. Twenty years ago they weren't sold in stores in Ensenada. It was, at that time, a cottage industry. Ladies would wander around the store parking lots selling their homemade tortillas. They were exellent.

lingililingili - 5-20-2008 at 08:47 AM

I got my Mexican citizenship by "sanguinidad" no tests!

Sanguinidad

Lee - 5-20-2008 at 11:43 AM

Can you elaborate on this?

lingililingili - 5-20-2008 at 12:43 PM

Sanguinidad: Related by blood

I was born in the U.S. but father was born was in Mexico.

[Edited on 5/21/08 by lingililingili]

gibson - 5-21-2008 at 04:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
I'm happy to visit Mexico now and then, have no desire to become a citizen, I'm a citizen of the greatest country on the planet earth. Thank You Lord for allowing me to born in the USA.:D


believe me ... mexicans aren't looking to add any Toby Keith fans to their ranks. you're safe bubba.

Pam did you take your test today?

Keri - 5-21-2008 at 05:06 PM

Tell us about it. What where the questions and how many? Did you pass(I hope). Come on share your experiences with us,k:smug::yes:

sloopy - 5-22-2008 at 05:50 AM

I'm married to a lady from Mexico who now has dual citizenship. Is obtaining Mexican citizenship any different for me? What are the advantages?
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks
sloopy

"You see a lot of foolish sailors and you see a lot of old sailors. But you won't see a lot of foolish old sailors!

passed the test!

flyfishinPam - 5-22-2008 at 08:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Keri
Tell us about it. What where the questions and how many? Did you pass(I hope). Come on share your experiences with us,k:smug::yes:


I got back last night. Shotgun trip by bus to La Paz and back from Loreto. There were five questions and they were:

cuales son los simbolos de la patria?
R: el escudo de Mexico, el himno nacional de Mexico y la bendera de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos

quien escribio la letra y la muscia del himno nacional?
R: la letra- Francisco Gonzalez Bocaegra, la musica-Jaime Nuno

nombrar dos emperadores de Mexico desde la independencia:
R: Ferdinand Maxmiliano de Hapsborgo, Augustin d'Iturbide

cual esl la ley fundemental de Mexico?
R: la Consticucion politica de los Estados Unidos Mexicanos

en que fecha consumada la independencia en Mexico?
R: 27 de septiembre 1821, I got this incorrect as I wrote 27 febrero 1821 (I got the month of the Abrazo between Iturbide and Guerrero and the constitucion month mixed up)

That link to the fourm I posted did the job for me as I focused on different things than I would if i never saw it.

This give you 5 more tries to take the test and if you fail all six you have to start the process all over again.

Its taken me five years. The law has changed since I first applied and my case was held up one year becuse of problems with how they put my name on my children's birth certificates and I had to get court orders to fix them.

sloopy- having a Mexican spouse won't help you getting through the process or making it easier. The laws have changed nnow you must have an FM3 for five years, then go to an FM2 for fove more years and be in immigrado status before you can apply. Being married to a Mexican citizen helps if you have been living in Mexico for over two years, have at least six months left on your current FM3 or FM2 because you won't have to wait for ten years. You still have to take this test in Spanish with no help. I had to sit right in front of the guy who gave me the test so there was no way to cheat or have help of another person.

one good sign is that my file number has been changed and the date for my entradas and salidas was to refer to may 29, 2006 but he said that he has to send all my papers nd the test to Mexico City and we wait some more.

how long have they told you Julie?

100 preguntas

flyfishinPam - 5-23-2008 at 11:14 AM

according to the forum that I posted the link above, SRE will be publishing a list of 100 questions that they will use to make these exams. There will be five questions given and the taker of the test mst get 4 out of 5 correct in order to pass. This will be on a national level. Apparently there were very many complaints against some of the delegations that were giving tests that had irrevelent questions like some of the ones I listed above.

from the forum dates 22 may

"De nuevo yo, les quiero comentar algo bien importante y beneficioso para todos los que quedan por dar el examen. El la SRE de Cancún a las personas que no aprobaron les dijeron que a partir del lunes 26 de mayo en la web de la SRE se va a publicar una guía con 100 preguntas y esas serán las preguntas que se tomen en los exámenes, esto es a nivel nacional, es decir, estas preguntas se aplicarán de manera igual en todos los estados.
Evidentemente las quejas que hemos realizado dieron sus frutos!! y me alegro mucho por la gente que aún no ha rendido su examen ya que no van a necesitar ninguna guía externa sino la que da la SRE. "

Shari you still have to take the test so chedk out the SRE website after Monday and also look at this forum for test questions. Good luck :dudette:

lingililingili - 5-23-2008 at 11:19 AM

Congratulations!

Congrats , Glad you passed

Keri - 5-24-2008 at 08:16 PM

Thanks for sharing the info with us.k:yes: