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fulano - 5-29-2008 at 10:27 AM

This is winthy:

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/34-41957.htm

Watch your 6.

DENNIS - 5-29-2008 at 02:55 PM

:lol::lol::lol: Small world, isn't it.

comitan - 5-29-2008 at 03:19 PM

Because of the Internet.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Dick

ILikeMex - 5-29-2008 at 03:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winthy
fulano just bought himself a defamation lawsuit....he should mind his own p's and q's before he starts thowing bs out. my attorney, a guy you see on CNN quite often wants to chat with him. anyone else want in on the action?


No, just your land deal in Mexico

gibson - 5-29-2008 at 03:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winthy
fulano just bought himself a defamation lawsuit....he should mind his own p's and q's before he starts thowing bs out. my attorney, a guy you see on CNN quite often wants to chat with him. anyone else want in on the action?


that kinda has the sound of more 'hot air'.
Just like your claim that the east cape transformation will take 'a few years'. I'll see your 'few years' and raise you '10-15' (that's if it all even gets off the ground!)
I don't think the ful is exactly shaking in his boots.
(ps you can keep your bridge)

Oso - 5-29-2008 at 03:51 PM

Winthy's response is a pretty clear admission that he is indeed the person in Fulano's link. I got some oceanfront property just south of Yuma I might sell. All it needs is a little rumble along the San Andreas "in a few years".;D

tripledigitken - 5-29-2008 at 03:54 PM

Best think about the ramifications of supporting someone that drags up information re a Civil Case, (even if it is true, which I'm not sure that it is) and posts it to the world just to slam someone you don't agree with.

A real low life thing to do. IMHO

Ken

[Edited on 5-29-2008 by tripledigitken]

gibson - 5-29-2008 at 03:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Best think about the ramifications of supporting someone that drags up a information re a Civil Case, (even if it is true, which I'm not sure that it is) and posts it to the world just to slam someone you don't agree with.

A real low life thing to do. IMHO

Ken


I agree but also thinks there's plenty to read between the lines. Point taken tho.

Oso - 5-29-2008 at 04:03 PM

I got no dog in this fight, but that IS public information and I kinda like to know things like that about people trying to sell me stuff.

ILikeMex - 5-29-2008 at 04:04 PM

Winthy may or may not be the person in Fulano's link, and the person in the link may or may not be the same Briant Patterson that is in the civil suit and selling the land in Mexico.

In either case, Winthy's response was aggressive, definsive and threatening. Why does Winthy have such a high powered CNN lawyer anyway - from the civil suit?

tripledigitken - 5-29-2008 at 04:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
I got no dog in this fight, but that IS public information and I kinda like to know things like that about people trying to sell me stuff.



Ok, maybe I'll start believing everything I see posted on the internet. Especially posted in an effort to slam someone.


Ken

I don't have a dog in this fight either. Just a little uneasy in the direction this whole thing is going.

ILikeMex - 5-29-2008 at 04:13 PM

I think the US SEC site is pretty valid - the only question is wheather or not the Briant Patterson on the ranchodelsoleastcape page is the same as on teh SEC civil suite page.

tripledigitken - 5-29-2008 at 04:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
I think the US SEC site is pretty valid - the only question is wheather or not the Briant Patterson on the ranchodelsoleastcape page is the same as on teh SEC civil suite page.


Just a minor detail. :rolleyes:

ILikeMex - 5-29-2008 at 04:20 PM

Yea, but his rsponse should have been "hey that's not me" instead of '"My CNN lawyer is going to sure your ass - who else wants some"

DENNIS - 5-29-2008 at 04:21 PM

Fulano should give us some clarification.

fulano - 5-29-2008 at 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Best think about the ramifications of supporting someone that drags up information re a Civil Case, (even if it is true, which I'm not sure that it is) and posts it to the world just to slam someone you don't agree with.

A real low life thing to do. IMHO

Ken

[Edited on 5-29-2008 by tripledigitken]


Right Ken. I forgot. This is the happy, happy BajaNomad Forum. Around here we just quietly watch while somebody slips a knife between the 3rd and 4th ribs of our neighbors.

You wouldn't give somebody water if his hair was on fire. Now, would you please list the bad ramifications, I really couldn't think of any.

DENNIS - 5-29-2008 at 04:29 PM

This is being expanded on Off Topic with the same line-up. Lots of fun.

ILikeMex - 5-29-2008 at 04:32 PM

How do you get Password for off-topic?

Never-mind

[Edited on 5-29-2008 by ILikeMex]

fulano - 5-29-2008 at 04:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Fulano should give us some clarification.


There's nothing I can say that will remove the last shred of doubt from everybody here. There is only one way to resolve this. Since we know that winthy is reading this thread, let's just put the question to him:

winthy:

Is the person listed as the contact for Racho Del Sol Eastcape on this website:
www.ranchodelsoleastcape.com
the very same person as in this SEC adminstrative action:http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/34-41957.htm ?

A simple "yes" or "no" answer will be sufficient.
Warmest regards,
Fulano

Now, let's all sit back, and relax and wait for the answer.

tripledigitken - 5-29-2008 at 05:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by fulano
Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Best think about the ramifications of supporting someone that drags up information re a Civil Case, (even if it is true, which I'm not sure that it is) and posts it to the world just to slam someone you don't agree with.

A real low life thing to do. IMHO

Ken

[Edited on 5-29-2008 by tripledigitken]


Right Ken. I forgot. This is the happy, happy BajaNomad Forum. Around here we just quietly watch while somebody slips a knife between the 3rd and 4th ribs of our neighbors.

You wouldn't give somebody water if his hair was on fire. Now, would you please list the bad ramifications, I really couldn't think of any.


Whose getting stabbed, Fulano? We don't even know if the Brandt in the SEC action ( a disciplinary one 9 years ago) is the same individual.

Do you have a complaint against this man's business in Baja? Oh wait, I forgot you are on a mission to stop the BS for all of us.

You dont know me, so don't tell me what I would do if someone's hair was on fire!

Ken

mtgoat666 - 5-29-2008 at 05:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winthy
fulano just bought himself a defamation lawsuit....he should mind his own p's and q's before he starts thowing bs out. my attorney, a guy you see on CNN quite often wants to chat with him. anyone else want in on the action?


since when does being on CNN mean squat? my dog was on CNN :lol:
if "winthy" is not the person outed, then winthy should reveal himself, and quit hiding behind alias. if "winthy" was indeed outed, then "winthy" should explain why he is touting RE sales under an alias, and explain his prior apparent misdeeds. never trust a RE salesperson that doesn't use his/her real name in advertisements.

rts551 - 5-29-2008 at 05:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by fulano
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Fulano should give us some clarification.


There's nothing I can say that will remove the last shred of doubt from everybody here. There is only one way to resolve this. Since we know that winthy is reading this thread, let's just put the question to him:

winthy:

Is the person listed as the contact for Racho Del Sol Eastcape on this website:
www.ranchodelsoleastcape.com
the very same person as in this SEC adminstrative action:http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/34-41957.htm ?

A simple "yes" or "no" answer will be sufficient.
Warmest regards,
Fulano

Now, let's all sit back, and relax and wait for the answer.


Ful

First thing I did was look using goggle to see where else you were posting and what you were saying... enough said.

fulano - 5-29-2008 at 05:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by rts551
First thing I did was look using goggle to see where else you were posting and what you were saying... enough said.


I've got a news flash for you rts: I only post as fulano on BajaNomads. All the other Google hits you get are other Fulano's. I don't think you speak Spanish, so I'll let you in on the joke that apparently only you don't get:

Fulano de tal is Spanish for John Doe. So why don't you Google John Doe and find all my other posts?
:lol:

p.s. It's "Google", not "goggle".

fulano - 5-29-2008 at 05:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Whose getting stabbed, Fulano? We don't even know if the Brandt in the SEC action ( a disciplinary one 9 years ago) is the same individual.


Oh yes I know. And I haven't even told the whole story of what was going on. Your new-found friend ducked a big bullet because he was a small fry. Read about the bullet he managed to duck:

http://classaction.findlaw.com/cases/securities/sec/sec1/fil...

rts551 - 5-29-2008 at 06:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by fulano
Quote:
Originally posted by rts551
First thing I did was look using goggle to see where else you were posting and what you were saying... enough said.


I've got a news flash for you rts: I only post as fulano on BajaNomads. All the other Google hits you get are other Fulano's. I don't think you speak Spanish, so I'll let you in on the joke that apparently only you don't get:

Fulano de tal is Spanish for John Doe. So why don't you Google John Doe and find all my other posts?
:lol:

p.s. It's "Google", not "goggle".


You don't know me. what I speak, or where I live. Hide behind your name. yes I know what means. And I don't take your name as a joke. only a a reflection of your being.

WE HAVE A CONFESSION!!

fulano - 5-29-2008 at 08:41 PM

winthy confessed that he is the same person as in the SEC administrative action.


Quote:

From: winthy
To: fulano
Folder: Inbox
Sent: 5-30-2008 at 03:23 AM
Message: Fulano...it is past 8pm pst. I have no answer from you. I personally have many millions of my own money in this project. I won't stand for some internet hack trying to mess it up. I have the gunpowder to make an example of you and will l do it on principle alone. The law firm I use is Geragos and Geragos. Mark Geragos. He is the one that handled the case that you decided to show the world without knowing the facts. He is very expensive. If I engage him on this tomorrow it is going to be very painful on you. Send me your contact info, get that post off the site, give me an apology and an offer to settle or I am taking this to the mat....rest assured it is no bluff. I have a severe distaste for people that interfere with my livelyhood. I better have a good answer in the morning. Next time mind you own business....you have no idea what kind of person I am.



All you naysayers owe me an apology. He has millions of dollars in his 20-acres of paper lots in Baja with no power, water, sewage or roads. Millions, ya hear? Millions.

:lol:

p.s. I is not past 8pm pst. 8pm pst is 9pm pdt. If Mark Geragos were there, he would probably tell him that.

I KNEW IT!! GERAGOS!! THATS WHY HE LOST TO THE SEC!!

JG - 5-29-2008 at 09:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by fulano
winthy confessed that he is the same person as in the SEC administrative action.


Quote:

From: winthy
To: fulano
Folder: Inbox
Sent: 5-30-2008 at 03:23 AM
Message: Fulano...it is past 8pm pst. I have no answer from you. I personally have many millions of my own money in this project. I won't stand for some internet hack trying to mess it up. I have the gunpowder to make an example of you and will l do it on principle alone. The law firm I use is Geragos and Geragos. Mark Geragos. He is the one that handled the case that you decided to show the world without knowing the facts. He is very expensive. If I engage him on this tomorrow it is going to be very painful on you. Send me your contact info, get that post off the site, give me an apology and an offer to settle or I am taking this to the mat....rest assured it is no bluff. I have a severe distaste for people that interfere with my livelyhood. I better have a good answer in the morning. Next time mind you own business....you have no idea what kind of person I am.



All you naysayers owe me an apology. He has millions of dollars in his 20-acres of paper lots in Baja with no power, water, sewage or roads. Millions, ya hear? Millions.

:lol:

p.s. I is not past 8pm pst. 8pm pst is 9pm pdt. If Mark Geragos were there, he would probably tell him that.

Diver - 5-29-2008 at 09:55 PM

This wimpy guy is too funny !!

So you admit that you are the SEC guy and you think that you have a case against Fulano for simply posting a link to some public information ??

And then for some reason you chose to "bare your sole" !??

Not only may you be crooked but you are apparently no legal eagle either !! :lol:

And yes, I do know of some "crooks" that hid under the SEC nose for many years and moved on with their illgotten gains.

Have a nice day and tons of luck selling your lots !! :lol::
.

rogerj1 - 5-29-2008 at 09:58 PM

Everybody makes mistakes, but not everybody uses mistakes as a learning experience and becomes a better person because of it.

What Are Defamation, Libel and Slander?

BMG - 5-29-2008 at 10:08 PM

Generally speaking, defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory (non-fixed) representation, usually an oral (spoken) representation. Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a printed or fixed medium, such as a magazine or newspaper.

Typically, the elements of a cause of action for defamation include:

1. A false and defamatory statement concerning another;
2. The unprivileged publication of the statement to a third party (that is, somebody other than the person defamed by the statement);
3. If the defamatory matter is of public concern, fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and
4. Damage to the plaintiff.

In the context of defamation law, a statement is "published" when it is made to the third party. That term does not mean that the statement has to be in print.

Damages are typically to the reputation of the plaintiff, but depending upon the laws of the jurisdiction it may be enough to establish mental anguish.

Most jurisdictions also recognize "per se" defamation, where the allegations are presumed to cause damage to the plaintiff. Typically, the following may consititute defamation per se:

* Attacks on a person's professional character or standing;
* Allegations that an unmarried person is unchaste;
* Allegations that a person is infected with a sexually transmitted disease;
* Allegations that the person has committed a crime of moral turpitude;

While actions for defamation have their roots in common law, most jurisdictions have now enacted statutes which modify the common law. They may change the elements of the cause of action, limit when an action may be filed, or modify the defenses to an action for defamation. Some may even require that the defendant be given an opportunity to apologize before the plaintiff can seek non-economic damages.
What Defenses Are Available To People Accused of Defamation?

The most important defense to an action for defamation is "truth", which is an absolute defense to an action for defamation.

Another defense to defamation actions is "privilege". For example, statements made by witnesses in court, arguments made in court by lawyers, statements by legislators on the floor of the legislature, or by judges while sitting on the bench, are ordinarily privileged, and cannot support a cause of action for defamation, no matter how false or outrageous.

A defense recognized in most jurisdictions is "opinion". If the person makes a statement of opinion as opposed to fact, the statement may not support a cause of action for defamation. Whether a statement is viewed as an expression of fact or opinion can depend upon context - that is, whether or not the person making the statement would be perceived by the community as being in a position to know whether or not it is true. If your employer calls you a pathological liar, it is far less likely to be regarded as opinion than if such a statement is made by somebody you just met. Some jurisdictions have eliminated the distinction between fact and opinion, and instead hold that any statement that suggests a factual basis can support a cause of action for defamation.

A defense similar to opinion is "fair comment on a matter of public interest". If the mayor of a town is involved in a corruption scandal, expressing the opinion that you believe the allegations are true is not likely to support a cause of action for defamation.

A defendant may also attempt to illustrate that the plaintiff had a poor reputation in the community, in order to diminish any claim for damages resulting from the defamatory statements.

A defendant who transmitted a message without awareness of its content may raise the defense of "innocent dissemination". For example, the post office is not liable for delivering a letter which has defamatory content, as it is not aware of the contents of the letter.

An uncommon defense is that the plaintiff consented to the dissemination of the statement.
Public Figures

Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice". In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth. For example, Ariel Sharon sued Time Magazine over allegations of his conduct relating to the massacres at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps. Although the jury concluded that the Time story included false allegations, they found that Time had not acted with "actual malice" and did not award any damages.

The concept of the "public figure" is broader than celebrities and politicians. A person can become an "involuntary public figure" as the result of publicity, even though that person did not want or invite the public attention. For example, people accused of high profile crimes may be unable to pursue actions for defamation even after their innocence is established, on the basis that the notoriety associated with the case and the accusations against them turned them into involuntary public figures.

A person can also become a "limited public figure" by engaging in actions which generate publicity within a narrow area of interest. For example, a woman named Terry Rakolta was offended by the Fox Television show, Married With Children, and wrote letters to the show's advertisers to try to get them to stop their support for the show. As a result of her actions, Ms. Rakolta became the target of jokes in a wide variety of settings. As these jokes remained within the confines of her public conduct, typically making fun of her as being prudish or censorious, they were protected by Ms. Rakolta's status as a "limited public figure".

Why Commencing A Defamation Action Is Not Aways A Good Idea

While people who are targeted by lies may well be angry enough to file a lawsuit, there are some very good reasons why actions for defamation may not be a good idea.

The publicity that results from a defamation lawsuit can create a greater audience for the false statements than they previously enjoyed. For example, if a newspaper or news show picks up the story of the lawsuit, false accusations that were previously known to only a small number of people may suddenly become known to the entire community, nation, or even to the world. As the media is much more apt to cover a lawsuit than to cover its ultimate resolution, the net effect may be that large numbers of people hear the false allegations, but never learn how the litigation was resolved.

Another big issue is that defamation cases tend to be difficult to win, and damage awards tend to be small. As a result, it is unusual for attorneys to be willing to take defamation cases on a contingent fee basis, and the fees expended in litigating even a successful defamation action can exceed the total recovery.

Another significant concern is that, even where the statements made by the defendant are entirely false, it may not be possible for a plaintiff to prove all of the elements of defamation. Most people will respond to news that a plaintiff lost a defamation lawsuit by concluding that the allegations were true.

In other words, the plaintiff in a defamation action may be required to expend a considerable amount of money to bring the action, may experience significant negative publicity which repeats the false accusations, and if unsuccessful in the litigation may cement into the public consciousness the belief that the defamatory accusations were true. While many plaintiffs will be able to successfully prosecute defamation actions, the possible downside should be considered when deciding whether or not such litigation should be attempted.

fulano - 5-29-2008 at 11:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winthy
"Most jurisdictions also recognize "per se" defamation, where the allegations are presumed to cause damage to the plaintiff. Typically, the following may consititute defamation per se:

* Attacks on a person's professional character or standing; YES he did
* Allegations that the person has committed a crime of moral turpitude; Yes He did

While actions for defamation have their roots in common law, most jurisdictions have now enacted statutes which modify the common law. They may change the elements of the cause of action, limit when an action may be filed, or modify the defenses to an action for defamation. Some may even require that the defendant be given an opportunity to apologize before the plaintiff can seek non-economic damages."

I gave him the opportunity to apologize.....


What are your monetary damages? You'll have to quantify them in court.

Defense of truth. Was the SEC link to a true document?

And you continue to lie on this message board. That whole story about your securities career was pure BS. You didn't make one little mistake. You made lots of mistakes. You had your securities license revoked in 1994. The only license you had then was a Series 7. Then you worked as a floor trader at the PCX for 7 or 8 years unlicensed, until the SEC yanked your chain AGAIN. You were no big guy in the industry. After the SEC fiasco you drifted over to Girard Securities from 9/2000 until 2/2007 (on and off). You didn't pass the Series 55 (that allows limited equity trading) until late 2005.

Now you are all over the internet advertising you are a real estate loan originator out of Orange County( making loans in Mexico no less). Does PACIFIC DIRECT ACCESS CORP. or COSTA AZUL sound familiar? The problem is, winthy, California law requires a person to have a minimum of a real estate salesmans license in order to originate real estate loans and to be supervised by a person with a real estate brokers license. Neither you nor your wife have a valid real estate license.

So here's the same pattern repeating...working in a business that requires a professional license without the license.

I don't even want to get into how a pocho like you could possibly put together a real estate loan in Spanish on Mexican property to an American, all from Orange County. The Mexican bankers at Banamex have a stroke trying to make a real estate loan to a Mexican.

Diver - 5-29-2008 at 11:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by winthy
"Most jurisdictions also recognize "per se" defamation, where the allegations are presumed to cause damage to the plaintiff. Typically, the following may consititute defamation per se:

* Attacks on a person's professional character or standing; YES he did
* Allegations that the person has committed a crime of moral turpitude; Yes He did

While actions for defamation have their roots in common law, most jurisdictions have now enacted statutes which modify the common law. They may change the elements of the cause of action, limit when an action may be filed, or modify the defenses to an action for defamation. Some may even require that the defendant be given an opportunity to apologize before the plaintiff can seek non-economic damages."

I gave him the opportunity to apologize.....


You would only have a case if something Fulano said was false AND harmed you financially. I have heard nothing from you denying the SEC information or anything else that has been mentioned. You obviously have no standing for any type of defamation claim so why don't you give it up before you make yourself look even worse !?

.

oldlady - 5-30-2008 at 05:45 AM

Wellllll, winthy, if you are trying to convince people that issues in your past are not relevant to the fact that you are an ethical and knowledgeable business person, in my opinion, I don't think the above post quite gets you there.

UnoMas - 5-30-2008 at 06:15 AM

Hey Whimpy, that last post really say's it all!!! :o Your big guns attorney hasn't taught you when to shut up :lol::lol:

BMG - 5-30-2008 at 07:59 AM

Sounds to me like we need a fence along the northern border.

Mark Geragos not "the" Mark Geragos

Bronco - 5-30-2008 at 08:11 AM

Holy Tamale, Geragos, the "attorney to the stars". John and Ken on KFI love MG, he is their favorite goat. His win/loss record is not to be envied and his clients are really a list of characters. Trust me
and "Google" this guy if you want some good, cheap entertainment. He was fired, by Michael Jackson alleged child molester, I think? Imagine rubbing shoulders with a Bajaite.

Speaking of entertaining this forum made me put down a Koontz.

Go Winfred, Go Fulano, Im going for a bloody mary

shari - 5-30-2008 at 08:53 AM

Oh My Canadian God!!!! This was a facinating read...debate...law lesson...but good gracious me winthy, I don't have a problem with you defending yourself but just STOP it already with the Canadian bashing....boy..talk about HATE mongering. I don't give a pinch of canadian coon crap who you are or what you have done or how much money you have...shut the **** up about canadians por favor....gosh, it's only 9:30 and your racist hate rant has me wanting a double bloody mary just to bring my bllod pressure down! :fire: I think anyone of any race thinking about buying a lot from you should read your rant and think carefully about doing business with you.

[Edited on 5-30-2008 by Hose A]

fulano - 5-30-2008 at 08:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by winthy
Never had any license revoked. You lie.


Briant Charles Patterson
CRD#1796608
Reporting source: Regulator
Regulatory Action Initiated: California Department of Corporations
Principal Sanctions/Relief Sought: Revocation
Date Initiated: 08/05/1994
Current status: Final

The only reason the SEC didn't revoke your license again in 1999 was that you had no license, it having been previously revoked in 1994.

Don Alley - 5-30-2008 at 09:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BMG
Sounds to me like we need a fence along the northern border.


Blame Canada!

BMG - 5-30-2008 at 09:29 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by shari
Oh My Canadian God!!!! This was a facinating read...debate...law lesson...but good gracious me winthy, I don't have a problem with you defending yourself but just STOP it already with the Canadian bashing....boy..talk about HATE mongering. I don't give a pinch of canadian coon crap who you are or what you have done or how much money you have...shut the **** up about canadians por favor....gosh, it's only 9:30 and your racist hate rant has me wanting a double bloody mary just to bring my bllod pressure down! :fire: I think anyone of any race thinking about buying a lot from you should read your rant and think carefully about doing business with you.

[Edited on 5-30-2008 by Hose A]


Shari,

What Canadian bashing?

"I and everyone else, know how you canadians are."

"sad canadian ******* life in your crappy , cold, boring, hating,wish I was an American,lonely lifetime."

"stop saying eehh"

"start tipping Mexican waiters"

"quit arguing over the price of things in mex"

"learn to love the US...we are what keep you viable."

"canadians get called a lot of things in mex...none of them are suitable to repeat in front of decent company"

"or canadians...who probably wouldn't pay the loan back anyway"

"I couldn't go to bed without telling you how worthless you canucks are"

"if it wasn't for the US, you would have a hammer and sickle over that stupid red maple leaf that you sew to backpacks"

"Mexicans tolerate you because that is how they are" but "They hate you because of how cheap you are and how you act like you are superior to them"

"you are pasty skinned, pieces of crap"

"Most of the canucks I have met spend their time trying to figure out a ways to swindle others"

"We as Americans, don't want you taking up space in our desert trailer parks in Hemet or Yuma during the winter"

"It must just be an ingrained way of thinking for your dirty, inferior feeling lives."

"In southern Baja you are known as c-ckroaches."

"You make good areas crap."

"Mexicans hate you"

"You people are worthless to me."

"No one wants to be near you because you drag the neighborhood down."

"Being as "thrifty" as you are...the neighborhood goes to crap."

"You suck off of the good graces of others, pollute the area and bring values down."

"have your countrymen done anything important?"

Terry28 - 5-30-2008 at 09:30 AM

Pass the popcorn....this is getting good!!! But let's not excute a guy until AFTER the trial is over and there is a conviction....But this did entertain me this morning.............

howat - 5-30-2008 at 10:04 AM

In my travels thru out baja and Yuma many of the statements that Winthy says about the canadians have been said by others in my presence by both mexicans and USAers. He said it crudely in a fit of anger but for obvious reasons. Perhaps the canadians need to be more aware of how others perceive their cultural norms below the borders and make a concerted effort to go-with-the-flow and try more to adapt to the cultural norms of the countries that they visit. "When in Rome act like a roman."

HH

ILikeMex - 5-30-2008 at 10:21 AM

Has the $130K starting price gone down yet?

mtgoat666 - 5-30-2008 at 10:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
Has the $130K starting price gone down yet?


Prices probably drropping quickly, as Canadians and most tolerant people now know that doing business with winthy is doing businesss with an internet loony and bigot who has a problem with non-americans, and Canadians in particular. But on the other hand, maybe the savvy Canucks will swoop in to buy a lot while the prices are low. :lol::lol:

CaboRon - 5-30-2008 at 10:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Best think about the ramifications of supporting someone that drags up information re a Civil Case, (even if it is true, which I'm not sure that it is) and posts it to the world just to slam someone you don't agree with.

A real low life thing to do. IMHO

Ken

[Edited on 5-29-2008 by tripledigitken]


I thought it was a part of the public record ...

What's wrong with publlishing information that is available to the general public.

Just a legit question, for you legal eagles out there. (Edited so as not to pi** anyone off )

CaboRon :cool:

[Edited on 5-30-2008 by CaboRon]

CaboRon - 5-30-2008 at 11:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Terry28
Pass the popcorn....this is getting good!!! But let's not excute a guy until AFTER the trial is over and there is a conviction....But this did entertain me this morning.............


This is really entertaining .... I am glad Shari told me to check it out. ... and btw .... go Shari ..

So Terry, here's your popcorn, do you want a Pacifico with that ?:lol::lol:



ILikeMex - 5-30-2008 at 11:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon
thought it was a part of the public record ...

What's wrong with publlishing information that is available to the general public.

Just a legit question, for you legal eagles out there. (Edited so as not to pi** anyone off )

CaboRon


I think his beef was that at the time we were not sure if the 2 Briants were the same guy - Whitney has since clarified for us that his is the same dude.

[Edited on 5-30-2008 by ILikeMex]

tripledigitken - 5-30-2008 at 11:17 AM

Cabo Ron,

Why don't you just post your full name, and someone here that doesn't like the cut of your jib starts googling it and spits out anything and everything they find with any results that match your name. Is that where you'd like this to go.

Fulano's passion on this sounds like a private matter to me. To my knowledge winthy hasn't done anything wrong in Baja. I haven't heard any complaints about his Baja business, have you? This is all about Fulano slamming him for reasons that are unknown. If Fulano wants to act as if he's God that's his problem.

If you like it fine, I don't. Just my 2 cents.

Ken

ILikeMex - 5-30-2008 at 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Cabo Ron,

Why don't you just post your full name, and someone here that doesn't like the cut of your jib starts googling it and spits out anything and everything they find with any results that match your name. Is that where you'd like this to go.

Fulano's passion on this sounds like a private matter to me. To my knowledge winthy hasn't done anything wrong in Baja. I haven't heard any complaints about his Baja business, have you? This is all about Fulano slamming him for reasons that are unknown. If Fulano wants to act as if he's God that's his problem.

If you like it fine, I don't. Just my 2 cents.

Ken


Whitney did not post his full name. Fulano only posted a valid and public link - which I'm glad he did.

Forget about Fulano's reasons, what are yours for continuing to support Whitney now that you know he is the same guy - not to mention his threats and aggressivenss?

vandenberg - 5-30-2008 at 11:22 AM

Entertaining, and hard to believe Winthy getting his dander up to such a degree. Doesn't he understand by now that these Nomads thrive on this stuff and do anything under the sun to keep it going.:no:



comitan - 5-30-2008 at 11:36 AM

I think Winthy took his marbles and went home.:o:o

CaboRon - 5-30-2008 at 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Cabo Ron,

Why don't you just post your full name, and someone here that doesn't like the cut of your jib starts googling it and spits out anything and everything they find with any results that match your name.

Ken


Probably for the same reason no one else posts their name on this forum .... how do I know you are not a complete nut case .... I don't ... and neither do you ... for all you know I could be George Bush :wow:

Are you willing to post your full name ? And while you're at it could you please post your SS# also :lol::lol::lol:

Yes, I do think it's all a big joke, because of the anonyous nature of this forum.

CaboRon
(edited to correct the spelling of my own handle)

[Edited on 5-30-2008 by CaboRon]

Briant - Calm Yourself

The Gull - 5-30-2008 at 11:45 AM

Now you know many of the Nomads are investors. You also know that many of the Nomads have lots of connections with other investors and other visitors to Baja.

How easy is it to put your rants on other websites and bulletin boards for many other prospective buyers to see? It isn't against any law to post somehting that has been posted by you in the public domain.

How smart is it to rant and rave about Canadian people who just might have been your next customer?

Do you really try hard to sell property in Baja in which you have millions of dollars invested? Is admitting to your past disciplinary violations with the SEC going to really capture more sales for you? Jaywalking ticket - I read it as a revocation of a license - whew, some difference?

BTW, when did you think it was right to lower the boom on Down's Syndrome folks? Your comment "other than the hickey I have on my *** **** from your fat, ugly, mongoloid boyfriend gave me" shows a bit of insensitivity. Also your sentance structure is a little off.

Cypress - 5-30-2008 at 12:02 PM

Nothing like a good "hair pulling" to draw a crowd!:P He said! She said!:tumble: Sorta like a c-ck fight, except these guys don't really fight, they just crow at each other.:tumble::tumble:

fulano - 5-30-2008 at 12:32 PM

Heyzeus, I love this board.

:rolleyes:

Winthy

The Gull - 5-30-2008 at 12:40 PM

Briant,

Do not count my reply to your U2U as "favorable" to you, because it isn't.

You are now on my blocked list.:P

I did see your rental ad on VRBO #132338. La Jolla De Los Cabos Unit D-208. Understand we get a discount if we mention "Surfline"

Read somewhere that you are Public Relations for Baja lending concern. What are the qualifications for that position?

[Edited on 5-30-2008 by The Gull]

mtgoat666 - 5-30-2008 at 01:01 PM

Looks like Briant Patterson, aka winthy, deleted all of his bigoted rants at Canadians, French and people with Downs Syndrome. His mother or wife must have read his posts and advised him that he was appearing to be a lunatic bigot and untrustworthy real estate sleaze. :lol:

ILikeMex - 5-30-2008 at 01:14 PM

What a turd

bancoduo - 5-30-2008 at 01:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ILikeMex
What a turd
And that would spell DEVELOPER in what language?:lol:

Roberto - 5-30-2008 at 01:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by comitan
I think Winthy took his marbles and went home.:o:o


Darn it! Just when it was getting fun.

Roberto - 5-30-2008 at 01:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hose A
If the direction of this thread continues to follow the path of the last few post it will be moved to Off Topic.


Party Pooper! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

shari - 5-30-2008 at 01:33 PM

Does this mean we expect to get a public apology...all of us? Maybe he's just having a hard day...did anyone make a copy of his dissertation...I would love to have that one on the books.... classic hatemongering. Thanks for heading up the cheerleading squad Ron!
I had absolutely no intention of entering this c-ckfight....but could not let this blatant racism pass by without comment. My family is very insulted.

shari - 5-30-2008 at 01:55 PM

Put me down for one too Hose...por favor...I'm thinking of doing a new book.."So ya don't like Canadians eh!"...a kind of parody about all the weird insults I have heard lately (after the canuck $ rallied)...being a baja resident, we hear more canadian slamming here than in our country. Fascinating culture in the US....insult people to their faces without even blinking....maybe they like seeing our jaw drop?:P

Roberto - 5-30-2008 at 02:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by shari
I had absolutely no intention of entering this c-ckfight....but could not let this blatant racism pass by without comment. My family is very insulted.


A Canadian hater, yes, a racist, no. Unless you consider Canadians to be a race. Last time I checked it's a Nationality, not a race.