BajaNomad - Amnesty International says Mexico has failed to respect human rights

Amnesty International says Mexico has failed to respect human rights

fulano - 5-30-2008 at 07:40 PM

http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2008/15316/6/mexico-frac...

"Amnesty International (AI) said that Mexico is a country that has failed to respect and defend human rights, and the government must apologize and take concrete actions, rather than just make promises

According to the 2008 report on "The state of human rights in the world," Mexico is one of the 81 countries of the world where torture is inflicted and still one of the 77 which restricts freedom of speech.

Liliana Velasquez, president of AI in Mexico, indicated that the authorities of the State of Mexico, Oaxaca and Chihuahua "owe an apology to the people" for the prevalent impunity of police and related agencies regarding human rights violations, abuses and murders of women.

In connection with military operations, the representative of the non-governmental organization noted that although the security situation is serious, the Government must give priority to reform the justice system."

Hm ?

MrBillM - 6-3-2008 at 05:40 PM

It comes as a surprise to WHO that Mexico has failed to respect Human Rights ?

If that person is out there, I haven't met him (or her).

DENNIS - 6-3-2008 at 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by MrBillM
It comes as a surprise to WHO that Mexico has failed to respect Human Rights ?

If that person is out there, I haven't met him (or her).

Well, I'm one of them. Mexico hasn't failed at anything, especially human rights. Mexico never intended to honor human rights so, how could she fail? Mexico is a total success at honoring human rights as she sees fit. Now, how can anyone b-tch about success.

mtgoat666 - 6-3-2008 at 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by MrBillM
It comes as a surprise to WHO that Mexico has failed to respect Human Rights ?

If that person is out there, I haven't met him (or her).

bm: don't think the article said it was a surprise.... you might use amnesty's list to choose a country more to your liking, perhaps something from the top 10? :lol:

fulano: you only read the bad news? when was the last time you posted the good news? how about posting an article about glad tidings for puppy dogs? (dogs seems to be an obsession of nomads)

fulano - 6-3-2008 at 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
[fulano: you only read the bad news? when was the last time you posted the good news?

Hey, give me a break. In the news business they say, "If it bleeds, it leads." Besides, Dennis is far more acerbic than me.

:rolleyes:

[Edited on 6-4-2008 by fulano]

Jose G knows better.

BMG - 6-3-2008 at 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by CaboRon
(edited by Jose G) acerbic than I .

"I" is a pronoun that must be the subject of a verb. "Me" is a pronoun that must be the object of the verb.

In this case Dennis is the subject and Fuluno is the object. Therefore, 'me' is correct.

As to what Amnesty International has to say, I (myself and me included) don't believe much of their propaganda.

DENNIS - 6-4-2008 at 06:30 AM

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Originally posted by fulano
Besides, Dennis is far more acerbic than me.

I'm not Acerbic. I'm full blooded American. Never even been to Acerbia.

oldlady - 6-4-2008 at 08:13 AM

Has anyone considered the worthiness of the practice of correcting in private and praising in public?

BMG - 6-4-2008 at 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by BMG

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Originally posted by CaboRon
(edited by Jose G) acerbic than I .

"I" is a pronoun that must be the subject of a verb. "Me" is a pronoun that must be the object of the verb.

In this case Dennis is the subject and Fuluno is the object. Therefore, 'me' is correct.

Thank you, Dr. Grammar. But actually, Jose is correct (it's more acerbic than I).

--Larry
From Harbrace College handbook, 10th edition, p55:

Hmmm....according to Washington State university:

In the old days when people studied traditional grammar, we could simply say, “The first person singular pronoun is “I” when it’s a subject and “me” when it’s an object,” but now few people know what that means. Let’s see if we can apply some common sense here. The misuse of “I” and “myself” for “me” is caused by nervousness about “me.” Educated people know that “Jim and me is goin’ down to slop the hogs,” is not elegant speech, not “correct.” It should be “Jim and I” because if I were slopping the hogs alone I would never say “Me is going. . . .” If you refer to yourself first, the same rule applies: It’s not “Me and Jim are going” but “I and Jim are going.”

So far so good. But the notion that there is something wrong with “me” leads people to overcorrect and avoid it where it is perfectly appropriate. People will say “The document had to be signed by both Susan and I” when the correct statement would be, “The document had to be signed by both Susan and me.” Trying even harder to avoid the lowly “me,” many people will substitute “myself,” as in “The suspect uttered epithets at Officer O’Leary and myself.”

“Myself” is no better than “I” as an object. “Myself” is not a sort of all-purpose intensive form of “me” or “I.” Use “myself” only when you have used “I” earlier in the same sentence: “I am not particularly fond of goat cheese myself.” “I kept half the loot for myself.” All this confusion can easily be avoided if you just remove the second party from the sentences where you feel tempted to use “myself” as an object or feel nervous about “me.” You wouldn’t say, “The IRS sent the refund check to I,” so you shouldn’t say “The IRS sent the refund check to my wife and I” either. And you shouldn’t say “to my wife and myself.” The only correct way to say this is, “The IRS sent the refund check to my wife and me.” Still sounds too casual? Get over it.

On a related point, those who continue to announce “It is I” have traditional grammatical correctness on their side, but they are vastly outnumbered by those who proudly boast “it’s me!” There’s not much that can be done about this now. Similarly, if a caller asks for Susan and Susan answers “This is she,” her somewhat antiquated correctness is likely to startle the questioner into confusion.

BMG - 6-4-2008 at 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by oldlady
Has anyone considered the worthiness of the practice of correcting in private and praising in public?

What fun is that?

Me think me will concede the point though. CaboRon was correct and Fulano made a grievous error when he said "me" instead of "I". How about 50 lashes with a wet noodle?

[Edited on 6-4-2008 by BMG]

BMG - 6-4-2008 at 08:53 AM

Originally posted by CaboRon

"(edited by Jose G) acerbic than I ."

oldlady - 6-4-2008 at 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by BMG How about 50 lashes with a wet noodle?

[Edited on 6-4-2008 by BMG]

Sounds like it fits the crime....as long as it isn't linguini.

fulano - 6-4-2008 at 09:07 AM

The grammar N-zis are here.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grammar+N-zi

:rolleyes:

oldlady - 6-4-2008 at 09:17 AM

After they leave the typo tyrants move in.

fulano - 6-4-2008 at 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I'm not Acerbic. I'm full blooded American. Never even been to Acerbia.

...he's also more sarcastic than I.

[Edited on 6-4-2008 by fulano]

BMG - 6-4-2008 at 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by fulano

...he's also more sarcastic than I.

[Edited on 6-4-2008 by fulano]

(edited by Hose Y) ...he's also more sarcastic than EYE.

DENNIS - 6-4-2008 at 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by oldlady
Has anyone considered the worthiness of the practice of correcting in private and praising in public?

What????

DENNIS - 6-4-2008 at 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by fulano
...he's also more sarcastic than I.

That wasn't sarcasm. Nor have I been acerbic. Don't demonize me or use me as your red herring, fulano. It's your hot-seat to sit in. You turned up your own heat so, enjoy it.

toneart - 6-4-2008 at 05:27 PM

Me think "aye yi yi!"

Or in BMG's case, "Eye eye eye". :smug:

fulano - 6-4-2008 at 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
[That wasn't sarcasm. Nor have I been acerbic. Don't demonize me or use me as your red herring, fulano. It's your hot-seat to sit in. You turned up your own heat so, enjoy it.

Hijole.