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child raising in baja...Shared responsibility

shari - 6-1-2008 at 12:36 PM

Some baja scenes bring a warm feeling to your heart and smile to your cara...I love to see mexican families in a "cuddle puddle" kids of all ages huddled together arms and legs intertwined relaxing on a bed or couch together...sweet family love...
I am also impressed by the shared responsibility of raising the children...lots of times it isn't clear just who the mother is as sometimes a granny, aunt or prima will raise a child.
When our baja cat was pregnant (again) we surprisingly found a baby kitty that turned out to be her daughters baby....we didn't know the little one was pregnant and yesterday we found another of her kitties in a closet nest...the mom had her babies a couple days ago and today I found them ALL in a big cat puddle....the daughter moved her 2 babies into her moms kitty nest and now they are nursing each other's kitties....all mixed in together now...a true mexican family....3 generations n the same bed.
Oh yeah, anyone want a kitty?

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Now if that isn’t touching then nothing is.

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-1-2008 at 12:39 PM


vandenberg - 6-1-2008 at 01:07 PM

Must be lots of feral cats running around Asuncion.:?::no::no:

Ever heard of neutering or spaying.:?::?::no::no:

Capt. George - 6-1-2008 at 01:27 PM

Spaying even when done here is done wrong. We have two Baja peras we adopted, and had spayed (one done in Loreto and one in Abreojos).....both were left with ovaries, nice ain't it? They still went in false heat for a few years, something for the macho male dogs to do.:?:

Our second dog, Shelley, short for Shelter which Deborah so aptly named , we found tied up as food for the coyotes:?:..More commonly done with female dogs then you could imagine. Shelley somehow tucked herself into a wreck on the estero till Deborah found her in the AM...chewed and bleeding.

So it would be nice if the love of animals, which we share with Shari (and many other of our Mexicano neighbors), could somehow be spread more widely....I personally, would hope not to be reincarnated as a dog or a cat in Mexico.

Like it or not, this is a simple fact.

shari - 6-1-2008 at 01:28 PM

There aren't alot of cats around...lots of dogs though...problem is there is no vet here and the closest one is a long trip away and very very expensive. We hope that a vet from Mulege may come our way for a clinic or the flying samaritans might bring one...I"ve been working on getting a vet to come to our part of the coast. Animals don't last too long here and we've always been able to get rid of our kitties... they are a bobcat cross and pretty cool...we have parents waiting even.

Kell-Baja - 6-1-2008 at 04:52 PM

Aww what a sweet picture:D

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Pops - 6-1-2008 at 05:48 PM

Aaaaaah!!
Make me want to jerk something!!:lol::lol::lol:
Here's a photo of my little loved one!

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bajabound2005 - 6-1-2008 at 05:53 PM

Shari -- contact these folks about coming to do a spay and neuter clinic in BA
www.givesomelife.org
They do the Baja!!!

shari - 6-1-2008 at 07:16 PM

gracias for the suggestion, I wrote them.

Iflyfish - 6-1-2008 at 08:20 PM

Give me the cats, those dogs are......well, amazing.

Gives me warm fuzzies. I am allergic to cats, so this is a really nice way to enjoy them.

Iflyfish

Skipjack Joe - 6-2-2008 at 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by shari
I am also impressed by the shared responsibility of raising the children...


How common is it to see Mexican men change diapers?

Bajagypsy - 6-2-2008 at 06:20 PM

Those are some very cute kittens, and I know your momma cat is a very good mom. I just hope she is around and still having kitties when we move down!!

flyfishinPam - 6-2-2008 at 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
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Originally posted by shari
I am also impressed by the shared responsibility of raising the children...


How common is it to see Mexican men change diapers?


Francisco did it like 5 times total with our 2 kids.

Bob and Susan - 6-2-2008 at 08:22 PM

i think i ONLY did it 5 times TOTAL:lol::lol:

that's some smelly job!!!:light::light:

El Camote - 6-2-2008 at 09:28 PM

I've taken care of our son during the work week since he was 3 months old. Wouldn't trade it for anything although the breast feeding was a bit of a struggle. :spingrin:

Note to self: Must get new job where I can work out of the home.

El Camote - 6-2-2008 at 09:54 PM

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shari - 6-3-2008 at 08:30 AM

Apart from the diaper thing (I just let Sirena run around the beach with no pants on...I'm a solution oriented woman)...I found mexican men to be fantastic with kids...they all take responsibility for watching the little tykes and making sure they are OK...not eating stones etc....they are more aware of other people's kids and don't hesitate to pick one up and coo at it, kiss it, sing to it....(makes gringos nervous)...like I said, kids are a shared responsibility and I always felt great that everyone was looking out for Sirenita...and still are!

Iflyfish - 6-3-2008 at 09:11 AM

Sirenita has turned out to be a wonderful, open, friendly, responsible young woman who clearly has benefited from interacting with all those adoring people who have been in her life. This speaks well of the sort of parenting she has experienced. In the north we have become much more alienated from each other and I think miss much of what you describe, to the detriment of our children, who appear to me to be more neurotic, anxious, wining, demanding kids up here in the cold country.

Iflyfish

Bajagypsy - 6-3-2008 at 09:14 AM

Iflyfish, I couldn't agree with you more. Isn't there an old saying that says it takes a community to raise a child?

Barry A. - 6-3-2008 at 01:35 PM

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In the north we have become much more alienated from each other and I think miss much of what you describe, to the detriment of our children, who appear to me to be more neurotic, anxious, wining, demanding kids up here in the cold country.

Iflyfish


This is probably more true than not, in the bigger cities. But in the small USA towns, and smaller USA cities I don't think this IS true. Yes, the community supporting the raising of kids is important, but the bottom line is more caring and involved parenting from the actual PARENTS. Absent that, the community does become more and more important, it seems to me, and should rise to the occasion. In Mexico this is much more apparent, and that is a huge plus.

I am essentially agreeing with you, I guess, but am less pessimstic about the situation in the USA as a whole.

barry

Iflyfish - 6-3-2008 at 03:54 PM

Barry A.

Point well taken, rural communities tend to be more interdependant and mutually supportive, including watching out for each others progeny.

Bruno Bettleheim did a study of kids raised on Kabutz in Isreal. Kids there reaised communally. Found kids to be very normal on Psychological tests, however he said they lacked creativity andthe sort of unique character that comes from growing up around neurosis. Interesting premise. He said that they were very healthy Psychologically and also VERY BORING.

Iflyfish