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Greengo swindler arrested in San Felipe

fulano - 6-13-2008 at 01:31 PM

http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=308006&esSecc=t...

Dave Arthur La Barre, an American, was arrested in San Felipe for defrauding at least $7 million from Americans and Mexicans for selling land he did not own in the area known as "Mi Casa del Mar" in the La Hacienda subdivision, using false documents.

BajaGringo - 6-13-2008 at 01:53 PM

Great news! Things are tough enough without gutter slime like this out and about. Hopefully they can recover some of the money to give it back to the poor folks who were swindled...

mtgoat666 - 6-13-2008 at 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Great news! Things are tough enough without gutter slime like this out and about. Hopefully they can recover some of the money to give it back to the poor folks who were swindled...

being arrested in Mexico may not even indicate you are suspected of a crime. being arrested in Mexico for land title issues usually only means that the arresting officer or one of his supervisors is working on behalf of some relative with a grudge.
in land disputes, there are always 3 or more sides to the story; and many sides are correct, and several sides are false.

CaboRon - 6-13-2008 at 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by fulano
http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=308006&esSecc=t...

Dave Arthur La Barre, an American, was arrested in San Felipe for defrauding at least $7 million from Americans and Mexicans for selling land he did not own in the area known as "Mi Casa del Mar" in the La Hacienda subdivision, using false documents.

I hope he goes down hard...

But, fulano, my question is about the term "Greengo",

Is that an ecologically sensitive swindler ? :spingrin:

Just wondering,

CaboRon

Cypress - 6-13-2008 at 02:28 PM

I thought that being arrested had something to do with breaking the law? :spingrin:

sylens - 6-13-2008 at 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
I thought that being arrested had something to do with breaking the law? :spingrin:

not necessarily in mexico :lol:

nor, for that matter, in the good ol' usa, but at least in the states there are constitutional protections and the assumption of innocence until guilt is proven. it is much more difficult to get wrongful charges dropped in mexico. but with enough money, of course, anything is possible.

DENNIS - 6-13-2008 at 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by sylens

it is much more difficult to get wrongful charges dropped in mexico. but with enough money, of course, anything is possible.

Also, there are beefy laws in Mexico that protect the accused if the accusation is wrong. It becomes a Mexican Stand-off. Who can afford to vindicate hisself. Justice is only as meaningful as one can afford to buy.
Nice place..huh.

bancoduo - 6-13-2008 at 04:39 PM

I notice the newspaper used GRINGO in its headline. Just imagine the FALLOUT if a US newspaper Used the term BEANER.

BajaGringo - 6-13-2008 at 04:45 PM

I don't equate the two at all.

Woooosh - 6-13-2008 at 04:58 PM

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it is much more difficult to get wrongful charges dropped in mexico. but with enough money, of course, anything is possible.

I had false accusation charges filed against me a few years ago. He almost ran me over on the beach with his jeep and we had a few choice words and gestures. He came back a half hour later and said I had pulled him from his truck and hurrt his back. This was from a mexican doctor and his motorcycle cop buddy. They even made the JPG hearing for that next day when all my Mexican family was out of town. Lucikly I had a camera working in front and it had caught the entire episode on tape, including him coming back to brush over his tire marks in the sand (which I hadn't known at the time). If not for that tape it would have been a mess for me and I couldn't have won. They didn't get him for filing false charges though- he just hid in his house until they saw I wasn't pressing for it. A mexican standoff indeed.

Woooosh - 6-13-2008 at 05:04 PM

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I don't equate the two at all.

Me either.

In Pacific Beach (san diego) a few years back there was a huge uproar when a restaurant called "Gringo's" was planning to open. They community had hearings and meetings with all the PC people leading the charge to stop Gingo's. At the same time a "Hooter's" opened just down the street without a peep from the community- they were all looking the other way.

bajajudy - 6-13-2008 at 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

At the same time a "Hooter's" opened just down the street without a peep from the community- they were all looking the other way.

After Hooter opened we ALL know which way everyone was looking........

BajaWarrior - 6-13-2008 at 05:13 PM

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I don't equate the two at all.

It did open, been there for some time now right on Mission Blvd.

BajaGringo - 6-13-2008 at 05:21 PM

Many sources, including online dictionaries often make the mistake of listing the word Gringo as a derogatory term. It only demonstrates thier ignorance of Spanish language and Latin culture. I have lived almost all of my adult life in Latin America and will bet my bank account on this.

In Spanish they call you and address you for what you are and how they see you:

gordo
alto
guero
viejo
flaco
negro
vicioso
etc etc etc

Nobody takes offense here at that because that is a dynamic of the Spanish language and it is consistently used from tierra del fuego to the US southern border. In Argentina, if you are of Arabic descent you are a Turco and so on. Here in Mexico, although some do, many will not call you an Americano. Technically they are too and many take offense that some from the USA want to pretend they own the label.

Can a Latino use the term Gringo in a derogatory manner? Of course! Just like you might hear someone say "that stupid Mexican". The term Mexican is not derogatory bu the intent of the statement is. The same happens with the term Gringo. Some Latinos may use it in a similar derogatory way but they will also use term "guero" or others in a similar fashion.

The majority of times a Latino uses the term Gringo it is used simply to identify someone of foreign descent, and usually from the USA but may include Canada and even Europe on occasion. I am married to a Latina, we speak only Spanish in our home and I have been living and working among the Latino community for over 30 years speaking primarily Spanish.

Trust me on this one and not some online dictionary written by a Gringo. To equate the term with "beaner" which is meant only to be derogatory, is ridiculous.

GRINGO

bancoduo - 6-13-2008 at 05:39 PM

It's usually used as a derogatory term by an uncultured wanabe elitist with an inferiority complex.

[Edited on 6-14-2008 by bancoduo]

DENNIS - 6-13-2008 at 05:45 PM

How about "Frijolero?" is that OK?

BajaGringo - 6-13-2008 at 05:57 PM

I like frijolero, as long as you hearts in the right place. And I don't mean heart burn...

fulano - 6-13-2008 at 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
How about "Frijolero?" is that OK?

As long as you don't use it in the same sentence with 'tacobender'.
:lol:

gibson - 6-13-2008 at 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by bancoduo
I notice the newspaper used GRINGO in its headline. Just imagine the FALLOUT if a US newspaper Used the term BEANER.

classic gringo cluelessness

bancoduo - 6-13-2008 at 07:27 PM

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classic gringo cluelessness

Would you care to elaborate on that?

gibson - 6-13-2008 at 07:38 PM

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classic gringo cluelessness

Would you care to elaborate on that?

see Bajagringo's 60th post. (or is that 61st?) oh my.

[Edited on 6-14-2008 by gibson]

gibson - 6-13-2008 at 07:40 PM

specifically his second sentence!

bancoduo - 6-13-2008 at 07:55 PM

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specifically his second sentence!

You seem to have a problem thinking for yourself. Are you a PARROT?

I'M DONE

gibson - 6-13-2008 at 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by bancoduo[/i

I'M DONE

got that right! :lol:

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-14-2008 at 05:49 AM

This chump is just another Elitist who thought he was entitled to run roughshod over people and now he finally got what he deserved. The county jails and state prisons are full of people who think they have more entitlements than the rest of us. The rest of you chump Elitists in here who try to run roughshod over us the Great Unwashed Membership here on Baja Nomad will also get what you deserve. Do not be a fence sitter people get over and vote at: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=31848 Show the Elitists they no longer run the kingdom.

NOTE: Maybe the powers that be will see their way clear and move the poll over here to the Elitist side of the railroad tracks where it will get to see the light of day.

[Edited on 6-14-2008 by ELINVESTI8]

capt. mike - 6-14-2008 at 06:23 AM

french law.....guilty until proven innocent.

to all you who think mexico is such a GD paradise, try and get thru their effed up legal system when you have a real problem some time....and then get on your knees and give thx to the central scrutinizer that you are a citizen of the U.S. Frickin A. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

today is flag day !!!! put one out there!!

ELINVESTIG8R - 6-14-2008 at 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
french law.....guilty until proven innocent.

to all you who think mexico is such a GD paradise, try and get thru their effed up legal system when you have a real problem some time....and then get on your knees and give thx to the central scrutinizer that you are a citizen of the U.S. Frickin A. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

today is flag day !!!! put one out there!!

Right on Skipper.

MexicoTed - 6-15-2008 at 12:51 AM

Wow, Dave LaBarre, was/is one of the biggest developers in northern Baja right behind Pat Butler. Very surprising as he was the head of the San Felipe Developers Association. Not good for business if it's true. Has anyone else heard any other details?
Ted

CaboRon - 6-15-2008 at 07:33 AM

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Wow, Dave LaBarre, was/is one of the biggest developers in northern Baja right behind Pat Butler. Very surprising as he was the head of the San Felipe Developers Association. Not good for business if it's true. Has anyone else heard any other details?
Ted

I imagine a lot of people will start running title searches on the property they bought from him .... maybe the people who actually own the property will start comming forward and challanging the sales.

Isn't it interesting that while we face the small rip-off everyday living in Mexico ... the really HUGH ones are , many times, conducted by fellow gringos ?

You only hurt the ones you love :wow:

CaboRon

durrelllrobert - 6-15-2008 at 08:01 AM

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If not for that tape it would have been a mess for me and I couldn't have won. They didn't get him for filing false charges though- he just hid in his house until they saw I wasn't pressing for it. A mexican standoff indeed.

Videos are great, 2 years ago my friend was diving his cement mixer through a crowd of protestor when one jumped on the hood and claimed that he was hit in crosswalk. My friend was arrested and detained but FORTUNATELY he had his video camera running on the dashboard which showed what really happend so he was released and the protestor booked for filling a false report. :coolup:

sloopy - 6-16-2008 at 07:51 AM

can't we all just get along?
King