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Businesses close in Rosarito

fulano - 6-30-2008 at 12:08 PM

http://el-mexicano.info/nota.aspx?idNota=309974&esSecc=t...

Too long to translate. The article says that "The slowdown of the US economy" has caused a lower flow of tourists to Rosarito in the last 6 months. This has caused the closure of dozens of businesses and the layoff of more than 1,000 workers in the commercial, restaurant and hotel sector.

The article is intresting in that there is not even one word mentioning the crime rates or police problems, it's just the economy in the US that is the entire problem. However, if one reads the readers' comments below the article, they almost all talk about the crime and the corruption. Here is one interesting reader's comment:

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Cabe mencionar que aparte de la recesion economico en la que nos vemos envueltos los residentes de amabas Californias tambien esta el problema de la "inseguridad" en Baja California. Por otro lado hace ya tiempo que lo que eran precios atractivos para comer en Rosarito se han ido aumentando a tal gardo que sale mas caro comer y tomar en Rosarito que en Chula Vista y San Diego. Si quieren que el turismo vuelva hay que hacer mas atractiva la oferta de servicios y bienes.


Translation:

"It is worth mentioning that apart from the economic recession in California, there is also the problem of "security" in Baja California. On the other hand, some time ago the price to eat in Rosarito was attractive, but they have increased prices such that it is more expensive to eat and drink in Rosarito than in Chula Vista and San Diego. If you want tourism to return there must be more attractive prices on goods and services."

Woooosh - 6-30-2008 at 02:41 PM

Couldn't agree more with the price gouging comment. You pay a lot of money these days for an americanized presentation of "mexican" food with little plastic portion cups everywhere. We stopped eating out after the constant (and expensive) disappointments. I still do TJ Juniors for their fish/shrip burrito combination with soup (less than $6), and the roadside taco shops sometimes.

example: One restaurant (The Lobster Shack) closed so fast the employees were protesting outside for months after- looking for their pay I guess. The loaction was kinda stupid to begin with- halfway through town on Blvd. Benito Juarez. Then the prices were horrible ($30 plus for a lobster combination) and no one smart eats seafood in an empty restaurant (and expects fresh fish or live lobster).

More confirmation from the Baja Times

fulano - 6-30-2008 at 04:54 PM

Boy, when this newspaper starts saying things are bad, things are really bad.

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EDITORIAL

By Laura Wong

The Greatly Anticipated 4th of July

Merchants from Baja California are anxiously awaiting the arrival of July 4th, because if sales continue to drop the way they have in the last few months, many of them will have to close their stores and restaurants by the end of September.

Actually, there has already been a mass dismissal of employees due to shortened schedules in tourist oriented businesses. If the tourists don’t return in July and August these businesses will barely survive through the low season after Labor Day, the last holiday weekend of the summer. If the high (summer) season doesn’t recuperate, many of our businesses will not survive.

In the past, Memorial Day weekend reliably marked the start of the high season, but this year it was a dismal reflection of former visitor traffic. Hotels were not at full capacity and the streets, shops and restaurants were empty. Since we rely on the summer heat and vacation season to drive tourism we are now hoping that Mexican-American families will continue to come to Baja California.

Our tourism authorities are implementing a series of measures to improve the image of violence and insecurity the country currently has. However, the recession in the United States, the hike in gasoline prices, the long waits at the border and confusion over the passport requirements of the Western Hemisphere Initiative, have scared away a large number of visitors who traditionally travel to have fun in Tijuana, Rosarito and Ensenada. (To be clear, passports are NOT required until 2009. Returning Americans can prove their citizenship with a state-issued ID and a birth certificate.)

The recent Baja 500 race was a clear example that this a safe place to visit. No significant incidents were reported, and I believe that the thousands of visitors that attended are the best tourism promoters of northern Mexico.

Our beautiful coast is lined with new condominium buildings quickly erected for the vacation or retirement home markets, but Americans can no longer take cash out of their lowered home values, and are afraid to make a major expenditure in the current economic slowdown. Hundreds of real estate brokers came to live here in Baja to service this market, and have had to diversify their jobs or move to other cities. They then shop less, eat out less, use fewer services, and that ripples through the economy.

We are caught in a perfect storm of circumstances that combine to create a tsunami of economic woes. Baja California is in trouble.

Despite these many factors contributing to the decline in tourist visits, we are hopeful that this July 4th will mark a turning point. We hope that people will regain confidence in Baja California as the right destination option for travel and vacations. We’re ready to see old friends and new ones head south for the holiday weekend. The curio shops have been stocked with fireworks and the owners of hotels and restaurants are crossing their fingers.

We cordially invite our neighbors in the U.S. to remember the long tradition of traveling to México, a close, friendly and affordable destination. Our cities are safe for tourists, the drive from Southern California is easy, and gas is 50% cheaper here. Waits at the border are shorter than they have been in years. Our endless beaches, charming hotels, interesting shops and inexpensive restaurants beckon - and our tomatoes are salmonella free. There’s almost always a cool ocean breeze to refresh the visitor from hot, inland areas. Our sunsets are still spectacular, and our warm and happy people are eager to welcome you!

http://www.bajatimes.com/editorial.asp

Woooosh - 6-30-2008 at 06:57 PM

Geesh- maybe the shootout in Puerto Nuevo that busy sunday afternoon could have an impact on summer visitors? You thought people forgot? This paper is the mouthpiece of the corrupt realtors who chased the Gringo Gazette out of town from challenging them and the shady real estate practices. Fulano is right- if this rag admits there's a problem, there's a huge huge problem. Of course they are admitting to the wrong problems and they twisted every fact to what little benefit they could gain.

It's good to know they have exactly what tourists want- "the curio shops have been stocked with fireworks"

* Of course they hit the real estate market. No one comes to Rosarito Beach for a holiday without shoiopping for real estate after all. ?! It's not that Americans don't have money to invest- they just don't see the value in investing in baja at these prices. Stateside foreclosures are more attractive and everyne but Mexican realtors know there's no rush anymore to buy up baja. While the house prices in San Diego have dropped 25%- they haven't been dropped by developers in Baja and no one who put down a deposit on a $400K house or condo is being a offerred the same place at $300K now. Not many buildings are getting finished to the frustration of those who have already paid. When no one new is putting deposits down there's no money to fund the legal pyramid scheme of "no completion bond required" construction.

* They are hoping Mexican American tourists will save the summer?! Of all groups impacted by the economic crush- Mexican Americans stateside are getting squeezed the hardest. They are upside-down in their homes and their country is too upside-down to safely move back to. Wait til you see what your water and electricty bills statesdie will be in four months.

*and pity the poor realtors. not.

* "Our tomatoes are salmonella free" LOL. Yeah, that's the big health threat we worry about most when traveling in Baja- salmonella. Now that the tomatos are safe-come on down. Actually the CDC/FDA hasn't even establilshed that tomatos anywhere were the casue of that outbreak.

* "waits at the border are shorter than they have been in years". Simply not true.

* Does anyone in this country have a marketing degree from a non-internet institution? How about DISCOUNTING to improve sales and business? Hello?!

[Edited on 7-1-2008 by Woooosh]

[Edited on 7-1-2008 by Woooosh]

Thanks Fulano

Gypsy Jan - 6-30-2008 at 08:15 PM

For your reports from the field. Your translations that cut through the Chamber of Commerce PR and explain the local attitudes for those of us who are Spanish grammer challenged are very appreciated.

The Lobster Shack restaraunt that Woosh mentioned was a poorly-thought-out venture that would have failed even in a booming economy, north or south of the border.

They were trying to be Rockin Baja Lobster, but they forgot the basics so it was all show and no go.

1st rule - When your only customer of the day enters, make them feel welcome and start the service process. Grade F.

2nd rule - Serve decent food at fair prices. The menu was some sort of a attempt at a Mexican-East Asian fusion theme, and everything (repeat, everything) was badly executed, tasted yuck and, yes, was overpriced. Grade F-

Across the street, you can get a sublime carnitas plate with all the fixings at La Flor de Michoacan. Two beers or two margaritas and you are out the door for less than US $10 per person.

[Edited on 7-2-2008 by Gypsy Jan]

bajaguy - 6-30-2008 at 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan

Across the street, you can get a sublime carnitas plate with all the fixings at La Flor de Michoacan. Two beers or two margaritas and you are out the door for less than US $10 per person.




An outstanding place to eat!!!!!

The Gull - 6-30-2008 at 08:21 PM

I'm sure that the thousands of unemployed workers from the tourist industry will be taking advantage of the new WalMart and HD shopping facilities along with the New Cinema. They certainly have mass amounts of disposible income to toss around.

Where are all those self proclaimed, self righteous Nomads who were playing "Pile on" during the first 1/2 of this year? Shall I name the names of the Nomad Nobility who couldn't stop comdemning the entire northern part of the peninsula while writing that they not only believed the trash stories from the San Diego Union, but EXPERIENCED the same things themselves. It was as if the world gave all of the Nomad Nobility a free pass to condemn the tragic events run by the drug cartel and make it sound like the good, hard working people of Rosarito had somehow brought on this horrible situation and were getting what they deserved.

Are ya as proud of what you wrote back then?

Backlash expected and welcomed. Have a nice day.

fulano - 7-1-2008 at 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
It was as if the world gave all of the Nomad Nobility a free pass to condemn the tragic events run by the drug cartel and make it sound like the good, hard working people of Rosarito had somehow brought on this horrible situation and were getting what they deserved.
Are ya as proud of what you wrote back then?


Speaking of being proud of what you wrote, you last promised to buy up the houses for sale in San Antonio del Mar. When do they go into escrow?

And the posts I have read didn't say it was the "good, hardworking people of Rosarito" who had "somehow brought on this horrible situation and where getting what they deserved." The posts I read said it was the corrupt politicians and police, working within a system of patronage, nepotism and elitism that brought on this situation. As a matter of fact, the posts I read said the good, hardworking people were the prime victims, having suffered through almost 90-years of indolence and exploitation from the ruling elite since the last revolution.

Perhaps we have been using words that are a little too big for you?

wilderone - 7-1-2008 at 09:02 AM

There have been boom and bust cycles throughout history. California gold rush; Baja land rush; You've seen the boom - here's the bust - after the reality check.

Woooosh - 7-1-2008 at 06:59 PM

Just because they build' em doesn't mean they can fill'em. These are all being built for gringos- although the developers say otherwise. Home Depot parkin glot was empty saturday day afternoon. The Mexicans have plenty of local hardware stores with better prices and people they know. IMHO mexican men don't go out shopping much and when they do they want it to be easy and social- The little storefront harware store. In most cases "if they don't have it, you don't need it"

WalMart pays 850 pesos (plus benefits) for a six and half day work week.
They won't be buying many buckets of popcorn at Cineopolis or Double-Whoppers with cheese on that. I do miss going to the movies though so look forward to the geezer-matinees- so long as the truck is safe when parked outside.

bancoduo - 7-1-2008 at 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Home Depot parkin glot was empty saturday day afternoon. The Mexicans have plenty of local hardware stores with better prices and people they know. IMHO mexican men don't go out shopping much and when they do they want it to be easy and social- The little storefront harware store. In most cases "if they don't have it, you don't need it"

GOOD FOR THEM!:yes:

bajaguy - 7-1-2008 at 07:20 PM

Every weekend that I have been in Ensenada, the COSTCO, Home Depot and Wal-Mart stores and parking lots are packed with Mexican families shopping....and buying.

DENNIS - 7-1-2008 at 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Every weekend that I have been in Ensenada, the COSTCO, Home Depot and Wal-Mart stores and parking lots are packed with Mexican families shopping....and buying.


That's what I see in Ensenada as well, especially the paint department. It's just a new experience for many of them to be offered such a large selection of items. If they only knew what a real Home Dpo was like, they'd be amazed.

Woooosh - 7-1-2008 at 07:49 PM

All is see in Rosarito Home Depot is pretty ladies pushing their kids around in empty race-car carts. They should charge a peso for the car rental. I do only go inside on weekdays and try to stay off paved roads on the weekends. I think people in Rosarito will still pick things up at the Home Depots on the other side just because they can- better price, selection, inventory, and value- what smart person wouldn't?

So the Ensenada Costco is full of Mexican families on the weekends?! Can you say "free family buffet" ? LOL I used to call it the "senior buffet" until I got my AARP card in the mail. I don't blame anyone for going more for the samples than to buy- they pay a membership fee and should take advantage of it. It does crack me up when people wait in line for hot items to come out of the mini-ovens. It's hard to maneuver your carts around them though.

[Edited on 7-2-2008 by Woooosh]

The Gull - 7-2-2008 at 06:29 AM

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Originally posted by fulano
Quote:
Originally posted by The Gull
It was as if the world gave all of the Nomad Nobility a free pass to condemn the tragic events run by the drug cartel and make it sound like the good, hard working people of Rosarito had somehow brought on this horrible situation and were getting what they deserved.
Are ya as proud of what you wrote back then?


Speaking of being proud of what you wrote, you last promised to buy up the houses for sale in San Antonio del Mar. When do they go into escrow?

And the posts I have read didn't say it was the "good, hardworking people of Rosarito" who had "somehow brought on this horrible situation and where getting what they deserved." The posts I read said it was the corrupt politicians and police, working within a system of patronage, nepotism and elitism that brought on this situation. As a matter of fact, the posts I read said the good, hardworking people were the prime victims, having suffered through almost 90-years of indolence and exploitation from the ruling elite since the last revolution.

Perhaps we have been using words that are a little too big for you?


Cowardly piling on is what I read. Support it as you wish with whatever color glasses necessary.

Who is the royal WE? Need mice in your pockets for confidence?

Doubt your vocabulary would dwarf anyone but a 10 year old. Practice it here as it should enlighten some posters from your "we" group.

woody with a view - 7-2-2008 at 06:42 AM

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Across the street, you can get a sublime carnitas plate with all the fixings at La Flor de Michoacan. Two beers or two margaritas and you are out the door for less than US $10 per person.


mmmmmmm.........drooooool!

fulano - 7-2-2008 at 07:04 AM

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Originally posted by The Gull
Who is the royal WE? Need mice in your pockets for confidence?

Doubt your vocabulary would dwarf anyone but a 10 year old. Practice it here as it should enlighten some posters from your "we" group.


You belong to the wee group.

'WE' group & Nomad Nobility---WOW---who knew!

Baja Bernie - 7-2-2008 at 09:10 AM

And who are they???????

bancoduo - 7-2-2008 at 09:37 AM

THE LLUG is a ******* ***** ** ****.:dudette:

DENNIS - 7-2-2008 at 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by bancoduo
THE LLUG is a ******* ***** ** ****.:dudette:


Now, Duo is showing that he's a responsible, team member Nomad. Knowing that we are short one moderator at this time, he fills the gap by moderating himself. Makes me proud.

The Gull - 7-2-2008 at 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Now, Duo is showing that he's a responsible, he fills the gap by moderating himself.


What he is doing to himself is not called moderating, it is a different "m" word.