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Why things are different in Mexico? 2 Education

Bruce R Leech - 7-15-2008 at 09:48 AM

this is second of a series of threads that will deal with the subject of why things don't work in Mexico? I will state my opinion and the everyone can post there thoughts on the subject.
:light:

the education system is a little out of control. the public school system is supposed to work smiler to the US system. but if you flunk out or are just lazy then you can go to a private school that will give you strait As even if you don't go to classes. a large percentage of children go to these schools, about 38 % here in Ensenada. these children are usually from the moor affluent families and continue on to one of the many universities that work the same way. you can literally buy a degree in anything you want in these schools and you need not attend or study or learn anything only pay the bill. I have several relatives that have received this kind of degrees and they are now working as doctors lawyers and engineers here in Baja Ca. I also have some that received degrees from the schools where they had to work hard and study allot.

just something to think about.

so go ahead and tear it apart Nomads:lol:




[Edited on 7-15-2008 by Bruce R Leech]

Diver - 7-15-2008 at 09:53 AM

So what's up, Bruce ?

Your favorite T-shirt in the laundry ?
No milk for your cereal ?
Got a hangover ?
Dog died ?
Wife left ?
What ?

pacificobob - 7-15-2008 at 10:05 AM

lots of american universities "sell " (by this make it REAL easy to get the degree if the fees are all paid) degrees to foreign students. it really helps them pay the bills...there is a huge demand for degrees from american schools. what you say is making sense to me. several of my college educated mexican friends have surprised me with their spelling and grammer...it had me thinking.

Learning ?

MrBillM - 7-15-2008 at 10:21 AM

Unless Bruce is trying to make a satirical point with his writing, he needs to seriously edit the work before posting and not rely on a spell-checker. They don't help if the word used is incorrect.

There, that's my tearing.

Interestingly, I've always heard from my MEXICAN friends that the reason they stress their budget to send their kids to private schools is that the Public system is so poorly funded. Taking a look at the public facilities in San Felipe and elsewhere makes me believe that is probably true. Since all of those friends went to private schools and a number of them went on to university, they must have learned something.

gnukid - 7-15-2008 at 10:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
this is second of a series of threads that will deal with the subject of why things don't work in Mexico? I will state my opinion and the everyone can post there thoughts on the subject.
:light:

the education system is a little out of control. the public school system is supposed to work smiler to the US system. but if you flunk out or are just lazy then you can go to a private school that will give you strait As even if you don't go to classes. a large percentage of children go to these schools, about 38 % here in Ensenada. these children are usually from the moor affluent families and continue on to one of the many universities that work the same way. you can literally buy a degree in anything you want in these schools and you need not attend or study or learn anything only pay the bill. I have several relatives that have received this kind of degrees and they are now working as doctors lawyers and engineers here in Baja Ca. I also have some that received degrees from the schools where they had to work hard and study allot.

just something to think about.

so go ahead and tear it apart Nomads:lol:

[Edited on 7-15-2008 by Bruce R Leech]


Great subjects Bruce. Ironically, your message's tone carries a powerful sub-message; why people from the USA are hypocrites.

Your note carries so many grammatical and spelling errors that the criticism of Mexican private schools that let students pass without proper achievement is lost in hypocrisy.

Bruce R Leech - 7-15-2008 at 10:26 AM

gnukid is getting the point:light:

Barry A. - 7-15-2008 at 10:33 AM

gnukid---------I know few (nobody??) that is not a hypocrit in some way, and I am ok with that. Most of us know what is "right", but few of us practice it completely. But that does not detract from our ability to recognize "wrong" when we see it, and point it out loudly. If we are so PC as to not, then I am afraid that no perceived "wrongs" would be ever pointed out.

Barry

stanburn - 7-15-2008 at 11:03 AM

as my buddy says, "I choose my own hypocrisies"

shari - 7-15-2008 at 01:37 PM

schools in mexico are varied to say the least...where my daughter Sirena went to school in Guerrero Negro, the public school had absolutely fantastic, creative dedicated teachers and Sirena received a top notch primary education. I sent her to a private school for high school as the local high school seemed to have problems with staff and "bad" kids. The nuns were also dedicated and ran a atight ship there. Then when we moved to Asuncion...boy, the public high school here is top notch...always wins first prize in the state for highest grades...another fine set of teachers. We lucked out in this respect. I could have chosen to educate her in Canada but from my experience in the school system here...I preferred her to grow up here with small classes, loving teachers, kidlike kids, no gangs, no racial issues, pretty good dicipline...they learn respect and patriotism. Sirena turned out great and will do well in University. I taught at the University level and while most of the students obtained their degrees through hard work and study, there were a select few that were passed whether they came to class or not...but these guys were professionals in the work force who only needed a paper for new job requirements...the paper was really unecessary...but required...so going to class was not required to get the necessary paper...while at first I argued against it, I later understood the practise. For example a guy working at the phone company for 15 years suddenly needs a degree to do his job...so give him one!
Anyway, I'm very pleased with the school system here.

Bajaboy - 7-15-2008 at 03:48 PM

Hey Bruce-

Have you heard of social promotion? It's very common in the States so I don't really understand your comments about students flunking out in Mexico. It happens here and students are allowed to move on to the next grade in order to stay with their peers instead of being retained.

Just something to think about before you make blanket statements regarding Mexico's educational system with regards to the US or Canada.

Zac

Bruce R Leech - 7-15-2008 at 04:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Hey Bruce-

Have you heard of social promotion? It's very common in the States so I don't really understand your comments about students flunking out in Mexico. It happens here and students are allowed to move on to the next grade in order to stay with their peers instead of being retained.

Just something to think about before you make blanket statements regarding Mexico's educational system with regards to the US or Canada.

Zac



read the post it went right over your head:lol:

jls - 7-15-2008 at 04:50 PM

I just don't get what you are saying? So it is very hard to respond to a provocative statement that has some hidden agenda. Schools are a mixed bag the world over and I really do know this.