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| Originally posted by palmeto99 Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true. Home ownership issues Lease property issues Immigration issues Crime reports that are true corrupt police Fido issues Eijdo property issues Mexican Citizenship issues. There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into. While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people, Post it..[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] [Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] |
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| Originally posted by palmeto99 Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true. Home ownership issues Lease property issues Immigration issues Crime reports that are true corrupt police Fido issues Eijdo property issues Mexican Citizenship issues. There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into. While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people, Post it..[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] [Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] |
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| Originally posted by palmeto99 Its time all the veterans of this board to start to correct what is posted here that is not true. Home ownership issues Lease property issues Immigration issues Crime reports that are true corrupt police Fido issues Eijdo property issues Mexican Citizenship issues. There are enough people on this board that know when things are being sugercoated and need to step up to call BS on certain issues so that many newbies do not fall into the same traps many on this board have fallen into. While life in Baja is great and the lifestyle is wonderful, There are many pitfalls that need to be addressed. I have found it amusing over the last couple of days how some on this board take offence that some of us lurkers are asking for accountability . There are scams in all aspects of Baja life and these need to be debated without us being accused of being anti Baja. I have an interest in Baja and want others to be well versed so there are no more horror stories of people being taken avantage of. Think about what you post and if you have any real info which might help people, Post it..[Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] [Edited on 7-18-2008 by palmeto99] |
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Kinda like a virtual gated community full of foreigners where the members can feel comfortable in their own culture and exchange information about the environment outside the gates.  --Larry |
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| Originally posted by palmeto99 I guess most on this board missed the point on this thread. Here are two examples of what I was talking about. In the last 3 weeks there were a couple of threads about buying property in Mexico which involved a palapa sale south of Mulege and a house sale in the north area of Baja. The palapa for sale was on property owned by a known Mexican scam artist and yet nomads who live right next door were waxing on about buying this lease property and how wonderful this fellow is to do deal with. The other thread dealt with a large home on leased land that was for sale but needed the lease renewed for the standard 10 years less the day. This owner could not get the lease extended himself but wanted any new owner to renew it. Flags should have been raised about what a terrible investment having any home on leased land in Mexico is given the chance of no protection at all if you even manage to get your paperwork trail correct and deal with a Notario. We heard instead about how upfront and honest the vendor seemed to be.. Heres a news flash for Nomads. Any leased land in Baja has its history traced back to the days when there was no legal vehicle for owning land in Mexico. With the fido system and title insurance available many years now, leasing is the best way to throw your money away as well as maybe losing your investment. This applies to any Eijdo land purchase which has not gone through all the proper steps. Any land transaction of eijdo land without it going full circle to the federal government for sign off is not worth the paper any documents are written on.. The best example of this would be in Mulege. Ask anyone who lives at the Orchard Park who used to lease their property while the owner started selling the lots . There are some people there who have not had their leases renewed or been told they will have to purchase their homes again. Its also my understanding that the owner there has also taken large deposits from many people and not started some of these home yet for over 2 years now. SCAM and yet we have nomads on this board who live there that do not warn others about this. Another fine example is down the river at the Oasis where friends of mine almost bought a home on leased property. They were told while in Jungle Jims bar near the park that leasing was the only way to go and this park had a great track record. Nothing was said about the recent hurricane damage and other problems. No sense bringing that up when a new rube might be brought in. The following Sept.. Huricane John wiped out most of these homes. Its the come on in, the waters fine attitude I am talking about here. Musical chairs at best while the newbies are the ones left holding the bag. The fishing stories and trip reports are not what I am talking about and we look forward to these reports.. Its about honesty so people can make informed choices while in Mexico. Oh and my friends who were looking at these properties. They bought titled property with a fido in Loreto for less money..Loreto has its problems with the Loreto Bay project but there is info out on that development that is warning people to not purchase there. Lets call a spade a shovel because there are many others on this board that want this |
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| Originally posted by palmeto99 I guess most on this board missed the point on this thread. Here are two examples of what I was talking about. In the last 3 weeks there were a couple of threads about buying property in Mexico which involved a palapa sale south of Mulege and a house sale in the north area of Baja. The palapa for sale was on property owned by a known Mexican scam artist and yet nomads who live right next door were waxing on about buying this lease property and how wonderful this fellow is to do deal with. The other thread dealt with a large home on leased land that was for sale but needed the lease renewed for the standard 10 years less the day. This owner could not get the lease extended himself but wanted any new owner to renew it. Flags should have been raised about what a terrible investment having any home on leased land in Mexico is given the chance of no protection at all if you even manage to get your paperwork trail correct and deal with a Notario. We heard instead about how upfront and honest the vendor seemed to be.. Heres a news flash for Nomads. Any leased land in Baja has its history traced back to the days when there was no legal vehicle for owning land in Mexico. With the fido system and title insurance available many years now, leasing is the best way to throw your money away as well as maybe losing your investment. This applies to any Eijdo land purchase which has not gone through all the proper steps. Any land transaction of eijdo land without it going full circle to the federal government for sign off is not worth the paper any documents are written on.. The best example of this would be in Mulege. Ask anyone who lives at the Orchard Park who used to lease their property while the owner started selling the lots . There are some people there who have not had their leases renewed or been told they will have to purchase their homes again. Its also my understanding that the owner there has also taken large deposits from many people and not started some of these home yet for over 2 years now. SCAM and yet we have nomads on this board who live there that do not warn others about this. Another fine example is down the river at the Oasis where friends of mine almost bought a home on leased property. They were told while in Jungle Jims bar near the park that leasing was the only way to go and this park had a great track record. Nothing was said about the recent hurricane damage and other problems. No sense bringing that up when a new rube might be brought in. The following Sept.. Huricane John wiped out most of these homes. Its the come on in, the waters fine attitude I am talking about here. Musical chairs at best while the newbies are the ones left holding the bag. The fishing stories and trip reports are not what I am talking about and we look forward to these reports.. Its about honesty so people can make informed choices while in Mexico. Oh and my friends who were looking at these properties. They bought titled property with a fido in Loreto for less money..Loreto has its problems with the Loreto Bay project but there is info out on that development that is warning people to not purchase there. Lets call a spade a shovel because there are many others on this board that want this |
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| Originally posted by palmeto99 I guess most on this board missed the point on this thread. Here are two examples of what I was talking about. In the last 3 weeks there were a couple of threads about buying property in Mexico which involved a palapa sale south of Mulege and a house sale in the north area of Baja. The palapa for sale was on property owned by a known Mexican scam artist and yet nomads who live right next door were waxing on about buying this lease property and how wonderful this fellow is to do deal with. The other thread dealt with a large home on leased land that was for sale but needed the lease renewed for the standard 10 years less the day. This owner could not get the lease extended himself but wanted any new owner to renew it. Flags should have been raised about what a terrible investment having any home on leased land in Mexico is given the chance of no protection at all if you even manage to get your paperwork trail correct and deal with a Notario. We heard instead about how upfront and honest the vendor seemed to be.. Heres a news flash for Nomads. Any leased land in Baja has its history traced back to the days when there was no legal vehicle for owning land in Mexico. With the fido system and title insurance available many years now, leasing is the best way to throw your money away as well as maybe losing your investment. This applies to any Eijdo land purchase which has not gone through all the proper steps. Any land transaction of eijdo land without it going full circle to the federal government for sign off is not worth the paper any documents are written on.. The best example of this would be in Mulege. Ask anyone who lives at the Orchard Park who used to lease their property while the owner started selling the lots . There are some people there who have not had their leases renewed or been told they will have to purchase their homes again. Its also my understanding that the owner there has also taken large deposits from many people and not started some of these home yet for over 2 years now. SCAM and yet we have nomads on this board who live there that do not warn others about this. Another fine example is down the river at the Oasis where friends of mine almost bought a home on leased property. They were told while in Jungle Jims bar near the park that leasing was the only way to go and this park had a great track record. Nothing was said about the recent hurricane damage and other problems. No sense bringing that up when a new rube might be brought in. The following Sept.. Huricane John wiped out most of these homes. Its the come on in, the waters fine attitude I am talking about here. Musical chairs at best while the newbies are the ones left holding the bag. The fishing stories and trip reports are not what I am talking about and we look forward to these reports.. Its about honesty so people can make informed choices while in Mexico. Oh and my friends who were looking at these properties. They bought titled property with a fido in Loreto for less money..Loreto has its problems with the Loreto Bay project but there is info out on that development that is warning people to not purchase there. Lets call a spade a shovel because there are many others on this board that want this |
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Iam intrigued by your amount of ingested gringo gossip and news. While you conjecture you rely on heresay to make grand accusations. You infer that folks in the Orchard willingly and knowingly passed on personal info that was false thereby validating, qualifying and inviting perspective buyers/leasees to share in their problems without divulging the problems. Little do you actually know what happened on a personal level in the Orchard and more importantly, on a group level. So please tell me where exactly do you live that would make you so privy? I fear you heard a one-sided continuing diatribe and gossip put forth by a bunch of put-out gringos looking for someone to fix their mess. What you also don't know are all the specifics. You should not place "leases" into a group caetegory as far as the terms of such an agreement. We all know(or should know) that like a used car, they can be the subject of negotiation, and similar "as-is" conditions. A legal (Mex) title holder should have the right to negotiate an agreement. Mexico leaves more room in their approach to "fair price". If you don't do yer homework, don't whine later. I've seen what a mob mentality can do In Mexico that translates to a bunch of spoiled finger pointing expats when something goes wrong and catches them by surprise. I suggest you take your own advise and stick to a more modern gringo approved town like Loreto, Mulege is a bad place for some ............but not all. How's that for truth? [/Leased property on the river huh Sharky. Sorry to have hit a nerve. It is because of my former line of work in Mexico that allows me all this information on your little Payton Place of the south. If you want more details , let me know... |
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Hey Ron, Are a realtor or do you just play one on the computer. I am not in the real estate business but intend to spout off when I hear my B$ alarm go off on this board, its ringing off the hook. The people I called out have crawled under their rock but I did not expect any thing else... Say Ron, are you a MOT? |
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place, fantastic people. There're some odd folks that have nothing better to do
than screw up your computer etc. via viruses etc. Replacing my tower this week due to a virus from who knows where. I'd
be happy to put a round thru the brain pan of whatever idiot responsible. These cyberspace punks cost folks some serious money when you multiply my
costs by several K. 
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| Originally posted by Sharksbaja I suppose it could be but I'd think he/she/it would have known more accurate stuff about us. 115 posts in not so many days...that is serious! |
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| Originally posted by Cypress lencho, Fried the whole system. Went into one of those endless loop-dee-doos. I'd
be happy to put a round thru the brain pan of whatever idiot responsible. These cyberspace punks cost folks some serious money when you multiply my
costs by several K. Got to get a new tower, lost all info. It's just money and
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| Originally posted by Cypress fulano, Thanks for the advice. The new tower is already on the way. Will unhook the old, hook up the new, and hope some creep doesn't destroy the new one. The old tower will be mothballed for posterity. |