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Wanted: Railing ideas for 2nd story deck

Santiago - 7-21-2008 at 08:07 AM

We've just finished the framing and sealing of our 14' X 23' roof deck and I'm looking for railing ideas. Something other than 4X4 posts with a sagging 2X4 top rail.


I'm thinking of having railing only on the sides and rear and none on the front where the patio roof connects - nice unobstructed view. Comments etc welcomed - I'm fairly thick-skinned.

Santiago - 7-21-2008 at 08:09 AM

By the way- I should say that I'm a wood stair railing builder but somehow I don't think a nice cherry railing would would be in keeping and the upkeep would be a *itch.

Santiago

Pompano - 7-21-2008 at 08:29 AM

I could send over my architect ... just keep him away from the sauce.




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On the other hand, a friend has used some old semi-twisty telegraph poles for his railing and they look terrific as rails. There are buttresses every 10-12 feet or so where they pass through. 2 rails high makes a nice affect..and it's definetely Baja.

The downside is that one must maintain them every year...else the termites win the battle. The upside is they also attract the carpenter bees which in turn provide targets for your trap team at c-cktail time.

I have a picture somewhere and will post.

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vandenberg - 7-21-2008 at 08:33 AM

Santiago,

On my upper deck we just constructed a 4 block high wall as shown in picture. Works, while obstructing part of your view.
Another suggestion in next answer. Too lazy to go through Bucket.:P

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vandenberg - 7-21-2008 at 08:37 AM

Santiago,

This is the railing at the covered second story patio deck.
You could just construct block pillars for the 2X6 or 4X6 beams ( mine are clear redwood ). Thusfar held up for 16 years.

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Russ - 7-21-2008 at 09:57 AM

Here are two ideas I used on my first house here.
Concrete pilasters with concrete cap
Wood framing and wood lattice

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lingililingili - 7-21-2008 at 10:11 AM

Great ideas, I am going to remember this. Beautiful homes everybody!

bajaguy - 7-21-2008 at 10:26 AM

Vertical posts with horizontal vinyl coated wire spaced every 6 inches apart between the posts

Santiago - 7-21-2008 at 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Vertical posts with horizontal vinyl coated wire spaced every 6 inches apart between the posts


Yes - that's one on the top of my list. Practically invisible.

vandenberg - 7-21-2008 at 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by Santiago
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Originally posted by bajaguy
Vertical posts with horizontal vinyl coated wire spaced every 6 inches apart between the posts


Yes - that's one on the top of my list. Practically invisible.


Not only "practically invisible", but also just practical.
Can be used to dry your wash, etc.
That's when you're not on your deck otherwise it would impair your view somewhat.

Forgot to mention: Also kind of ugly :?:

Sharksbaja - 7-21-2008 at 11:31 AM

Natural native woods, palm, cardon and organpipe cactus

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bajadock - 7-21-2008 at 12:09 PM

Thanks Nomads for photos on unique home designs. My railing design had 3 key elements to ponder.
1. Open view
2. Beverage platform
3. Minimize maintenance



My builder came up with the cross beam idea, even though I didn't want to maintain the wood. I'll have to suffer a few hours every other year by sealing it from weather, boo hoo!

gnukid - 7-21-2008 at 12:26 PM

Open railings such as wire with turnbuckles attached to wood posts provides a secure yet open and durable design.

Walls provide apparent security but in Baja at times -like 6 months a year, a cool slight breeze and better view is heaven and blocking it is a big mistake, also open railings like the wire/turnbuckle allows other to see in like neighbors and it actually adds to security when you're gone.

Frankly after having built many low wall railings I am finally a fan of open style-- less is more in Baja California.

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Railing photo found...

Pompano - 7-21-2008 at 12:49 PM

Found that railing pic, Santiago. Unique old telegraph poles that do not interrupt any views.

Good luck with your project.

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Cypress - 7-21-2008 at 12:57 PM

Santiago, You're a builder, so you know about load-bearing. Any railing that keeps people from falling off the roof will work and a little shade will make it cooler.:)

This realing thread brings this Baja home to mind.

Pompano - 7-21-2008 at 01:08 PM

A friend of mine owned a house on the hill near Posada south of Mulege for many years. It sat high up and had NO railings on it's large wrap-around decks for over 30 years. We had countless parties and get-togethers up there. We somehow managed to keep everyone off the rooftops and rocks below. ;D

Recently it was sold and the first thiing to go by the new owner was...railings. Somethings just take time.

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Taco de Baja - 7-21-2008 at 02:17 PM

The cable look is nice for unobstructed views. Lots of companies make them. They can go in wood or steel posts.

http://cablerailmn.com/






Von - 7-21-2008 at 02:22 PM

Those are nice Taco de Baja.


May be glass would look great!

Santiago - 7-21-2008 at 03:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajadock
Thanks Nomads for photos on unique home designs. My railing design had 3 key elements to ponder.
1. Open view
2. Beverage platform
3. Minimize maintenance



My builder came up with the cross beam idea, even though I didn't want to maintain the wood. I'll have to suffer a few hours every other year by sealing it from weather, boo hoo!


BDoc: is that plexiglas on the side of your deck? if so, how does it work/cleaning? Mi esposa mentioned plexiglas for the wind but I don't think it's a good idea at my place due to the killer west winds and the occational chubasco.

Pomp: That's a great railing - lots of character.

Sharks: How the heck did they attach the treads?

bajadock - 7-21-2008 at 04:22 PM

Santiago,
Those are 7' tall tempered glass panels on my main deck to block the usual west/northwest wind. My bbq sits there, as does one of my patio tables, so I'm sable to cook outside and entertain if wind is up.

For rustic look, Pompano's poles look great. Horizontal wire looks very clean, like Taco de Baja's pix. I have also seen lots of tempered glass panels used to maximize views.

Also, Nomad Bajamigo warned me about wrought iron in an ocean climate.
I was also thinking about black aluminum ballisters(at Lowe's) that I had used in my previous deck in Denver as iron sub.

Simple works every time for me. Did I mention my beverage balancing doesn't work well on the horizontal wire concept?

Your patio below palm frond roof looks cool.

A suggestion

bajajudy - 7-21-2008 at 04:38 PM

Get your favorite chair, drag it up on your deck, and sit down in it.
check out which of these ideas gives you the view that you had imagined.
On our second floor, we have to sit in tall director chairs in order to still be able to enjoy all of our view.

shari - 7-21-2008 at 04:43 PM

we are gonna do laja rock pillars with rebar design for optimum view on the beach house...we will do our sunset design like we have on our window "bars". LOve your place Santiago...very funky.

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