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Ugliest Gringo House in Todos Santos w/new pics on page four

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 04:18 PM

Some people are apparently consumed with securtiy to the point of obscenity ....

When I first came upon this casa , at the end of the beach road Camino del Pacifico I thought it was a wharehouse ....

But, why a wharehouse on the beach ???

No this is one of three casas on this lot being built for gringos who don't aparently care if they are a blight on the neighborhood.

Also, these were designed by one of our leading architects ..

This first view is from Camino del Pacifico



These views are from the neighbor's homes ...





I call it the "Loading Dock Casa" :lol::P

CaboRon :lol::lol:





[Edited on 9-7-2008 by CaboRon]

DENNIS - 8-6-2008 at 04:21 PM

Looks like mini-storage.

Barry A. - 8-6-2008 at 04:23 PM

Ahhhhhh, esthetics are apparently not high on their agenda------------what a way to live!!! ------there goes the neighborhood!!!

Not for me. :lol:

Barry

DENNIS - 8-6-2008 at 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon

Also, these were designed by one of our leading architects ..



You mean..it took an architect to "design" this building?
C'mon Ron. This thing isn't even in the ground. Look at the base of the building in the first pic.

[Edited on 8-6-2008 by DENNIS]

Chamaco - 8-6-2008 at 04:29 PM

Maybe you should offer your 24 hour security if he changes the apparence(spell check)

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 04:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Chamaco
Maybe you should offer your 24 hour security if he changes the apparence(spell check)


Don't understand your statement .....

I don't have a security business....

My security is actually living in my casa year round ....

I know, I know, that does not apply to 90% of my neighbors...

CaboRon

Chamaco - 8-6-2008 at 04:38 PM

I was offering you to be their 24 hour security guard. :)

Russ - 8-6-2008 at 04:45 PM

What is the going rate to live in a mini storage on the beach? I don't see any AC units... hell I don't see any windows. Nice doors tho... incase of a hurricane.:no:

ELINVESTIG8R - 8-6-2008 at 04:46 PM

Mini Storage!

DianaT - 8-6-2008 at 05:23 PM

It really is a house? Just can't imagine!

Diane

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 05:26 PM

Yes, this is really a house :barf:

CaboRon

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 05:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon

Also, these were designed by one of our leading architects ..



You mean..it took an architect to "design" this building?
C'mon Ron. This thing isn't even in the ground. Look at the base of the building in the first pic.

[Edited on 8-6-2008 by DENNIS]


I watched them building this over the last few months ...

And the base actually goes down about three or four feet ....

You are seeing the black sealent on the concrete block...




CaboRon

I will be glad to provide the name of the designer via U2U if you would like to avoid her.




[Edited on 8-7-2008 by CaboRon]

cabobaja - 8-6-2008 at 05:51 PM

Is it Brenda?

bancoduo - 8-6-2008 at 06:11 PM

Quote:


I call it the "Loading Dock Casa" :lol::
caboron Just exposed SHORTY GUZMAN'S new drug storage facility.


SHORTY to RON
HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!:lol:

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 06:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cabobaja
Is it Brenda?


Check your U2U

BMG - 8-6-2008 at 06:36 PM

I'm having trouble believing this one. Who wants to live in a storage unit? Post a photo when the owners have moved in and have some potted plants and furniture on the front porch.

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 07:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BMG
I'm having trouble believing this one. Who wants to live in a storage unit? Post a photo when the owners have moved in and have some potted plants and furniture on the front porch.


Will do ....

I spoke to one of the neighbors last Friday ...

She assured me it is indeed a casa.

It appears the steel panels slide aside to reveal the door and windows.

I am having trouble believing it also.

CaboRon



[Edited on 8-7-2008 by CaboRon]

BMG - 8-6-2008 at 07:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote:
Originally posted by BMG
I'm having trouble believing this one. Who wants to live in a storage unit? Post a photo when the owners have moved in and have some potted plants and furniture on the front porch.


Will do ....

I spoke to one of the neighbors last Friday ...

I am having trouble believing it also.

CaboRon


When you do talk to the owner, can you find out how much a 10 x 10 is going for?:lol:

Dwellable ministorage condos

Sharksbaja - 8-6-2008 at 07:21 PM

:lol::lol::lol:
C'mon you guys, beauty is in the eye of the(gag,choke) beholder.

That does get some kind of award.

DENNIS - 8-6-2008 at 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja


That does get some kind of award.


What do you think, Corky? Is this a fish restaurant waiting to happen? It's way to nice for a common house.

Storage container homes

bajaguy - 8-6-2008 at 07:36 PM

Check this out:

http://weburbanist.com/2008/05/26/cargo-container-homes-and-...

DianaT - 8-6-2008 at 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by grover


But that has REAL style. I love it.

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by jdtrotter
Quote:
Originally posted by grover


But that has REAL style. I love it.


That is a great pic of the new Todos Santos Bed & Breakfast..

We have been building it for a couple of years and we are just looking for a couple more trailers to complete the project.

Check out our new lap pool ....


Corky1 - 8-6-2008 at 08:05 PM

My new condo!!

Corky:lol: :lol:

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Udo - 8-6-2008 at 08:19 PM

I knew it had a Dutch flavor!

CaboRon - 8-6-2008 at 08:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Corky1
My new condo!!

Corky:lol: :lol:


Corky,

Can we buy it ??

We need a lighthouse so that we can compete with Bob & Susan .... :lol::lol:

BajaWarrior - 8-6-2008 at 09:07 PM

Maybe they're aware of all the break-ins in Todos Santos and are taking action to prevent theft. Looks solid to me, until someone backs a large truck into it and just goes through the wall...

Corky1 - 8-6-2008 at 10:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote:
Originally posted by Corky1
My new condo!!

Corky:lol: :lol:


Corky,

Can we buy it ??

We need a lighthouse so that we can compete with Bob & Susan .... :lol::lol:


Es se renta Senore (sp) Cheeeep!!!!


Corky:lol::lol:

CaboRon - 8-7-2008 at 06:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BMG
I'm having trouble believing this one. Who wants to live in a storage unit? Post a photo when the owners have moved in and have some potted plants and furniture on the front porch.


Can't post anymore of this email because there are too many references to names , etc ....

I have been asking around town about this monstrosity and it is being referred to as the "bunker" .

Here is a note to me from one of our local architects :

" Hi Ron...

Thanks for sharing! I’ve been aware of this monstrosity for quite some time...starting way back when this bunker first started to take shape. I thought it was some utility building the government was putting up for the sewage treatment plant! "

I guess we aren't any closer to our treatment plant.

BTW, When I was over there yesterday the air was heavy with sewage smell from our open sewage ponds which were also built on the dunes ....

Can you imagine being hunkered down in your bunker and smelling the sewage which is less than a hundred meters from your new casa :lol::lol::lol:

Our open sewage storage ponds (yes they built a second after the recent spill) are NOT treatment ponds but just open sores on our beautirul dunes.

I really don't understand why anyone would want to live next to the sewer ...... "Beautiful Todos Santos"

CaboRon

CaboRon

805gregg - 8-7-2008 at 07:10 AM

The next time a hurricane rolls through TS go by and take another picture, It will probably look the same, will your house? What do you care what someone else's house looks like? I just came back from Mazatlan and I can tell you there are lots of Mexicans there that would love to have a house like that compared to the ones they live in. I say live and let live, you're in Baja now don't waste your time criticizing others housing choices. I challenge you to get to know the owners next time they are around, you might meet a really nice person and become friends.

Chamaco - 8-7-2008 at 07:22 AM

But Gregg, I have volunteered the turtle man to be the security guard. Doesn't that make things better?

CaboRon - 8-7-2008 at 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by 805gregg
The next time a hurricane rolls through TS go by and take another picture, It will probably look the same, will your house? What do you care what someone else's house looks like? I just came back from Mazatlan and I can tell you there are lots of Mexicans there that would love to have a house like that compared to the ones they live in. I say live and let live, you're in Baja now don't waste your time criticizing others housing choices. I challenge you to get to know the owners next time they are around, you might meet a really nice person and become friends.


What can I say but, some people have no taste.

And, just for you , I have relabled this thread "The ugliest gringo house in Todos Santos"

Are you satisfied now ??

Is this your house ??

CaboRon :lol::lol::lol:





[Edited on 8-7-2008 by CaboRon]

tripledigitken - 8-7-2008 at 08:13 AM

It's beyond bad taste. It's a matter of bad design, IMO.

No cross ventalation. No shaded south and west facing walls. HOT!

Ken

CaboRon - 8-7-2008 at 08:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
It's beyond bad taste. It's a matter of bad design, IMO.

No cross ventalation. No shaded south and west facing walls. HOT!

Ken


They will be paying a bundle for AC no doubt ...

Wrapped in their cocoon of security :lol:

CaboRon

I'm thinking of investing...

BMG - 8-7-2008 at 08:36 AM

... in that new condo unit going in down the street from this house.



bajalera - 8-7-2008 at 12:58 PM

Too bad that it probably won't float off into the Pacific in case of a chubasco.

eetdrt88 - 8-7-2008 at 03:04 PM

put a nice patio cover on the front with a hammock and a fridge full of pacifico and id call it "home sweet home":cool:

Iflyfish - 8-7-2008 at 04:47 PM

Lighten up you guys, didn't anyone notice the nice palm tree planted beside the place? Real ecologically minded. Sort of like having stuffed dog...I could go on, but won't. Well, just one, Allan Watts "we are a society of gormands that eats the menu".

Iflyfish

Kell-Baja - 8-9-2008 at 03:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Looks like mini-storage.


I totally agree

oxxo - 8-10-2008 at 02:25 PM

It looks like a Winnebego with the wheels off to me.

There is a guy in San Lucas selling used, 8x40 shipping containers for "offices and casas." Join 3 or 4 together "for a wonderful living space!" He paints them a pretty sky blue on the outside. Heck, he says they even cut windows into it for an extra fee. Why didn't I think of that? During the summer, it would be just like living in Stalag 17! :light:

vandenberg - 8-10-2008 at 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by oxxo
It looks like a Winnebego with the wheels off to me.

There is a guy in San Lucas selling used, 8x40 shipping containers for "offices and casas." Join 3 or 4 together "for a wonderful living space!" He paints them a pretty sky blue on the outside. Heck, he says they even cut windows into it for an extra fee. Why didn't I think of that? During the summer, it would be just like living in Stalag 17! :light:


Not to mention that you can bake cookies on your kitchen table.:biggrin:

CaboRon - 8-10-2008 at 08:00 PM

Some friends were over this evening and I showed the pics , just for a laugh you know ....

And the point was brought up that this casa is less than one hundred yards from the KaKaMo ( our lovely open sewage ponds on the dunes) that it was probably really nice inside and will have extensive air treatment so they don't have to smell the scheiss :lol:

The odor can be strong at times ....

CaboRon

DavidT - 8-10-2008 at 08:34 PM

I'll bet the mice can still get in.

vandenberg - 8-10-2008 at 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by DavidT
I'll bet the mice can still get in.


That's a maybe, but the c-ckroaches are a sure thing.:P:biggrin:

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BornFisher - 8-10-2008 at 09:32 PM

Does anyone really care??

amir - 8-10-2008 at 10:37 PM

The building is what it is, and EVERYbody is allowed to have an opinion (especially if a Nomad) as to what emotions the picture of this habitation brings out in them. It could even be entertaining to ponder or try to read the thoughts of the owner and the architects. I, personally, wouldn't build a thing like this, woudn't buy one, heck, I wouldn't even live in one if it was offered to me for free. But, with all due respect, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
Indeed it must be pretty nice inside, and once inside, you can make the outside go away, smells and all.
I understand hurricane shutters and protection for glass windows and doors during chubascos, and burglaries of uninhabited rich dude's homes have been a plague recently in the gringo side of Todos Santos, but to me, in my humble opinion, the design to address these issues begs to be ridiculed...

--Amir

What WERE they thinking?

Lee - 8-11-2008 at 08:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by amir
But, with all due respect, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
Indeed it must be pretty nice inside, and once inside, you can make the outside go away, smells and all.


A neighbor in Las Tunas told me of his plans to have a 24' metal container ''buried'' next to his house and he was going to use it as an office, or something. I thought the idea was a little different but not all that odd. There are alot of odd things about Baja -- a buried container isn't at the top of this list.

Isn't this post really about gossip? And poking fun at someone else's sense of style and taste?

A second thought about a ''funny'' looking home might be a wasted thought.

Are ''odd'' homes not allowed in Todos?

Hey, Amir! Que pasa, hombre? How's that house?

CaboRon - 8-11-2008 at 08:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
Quote:
Originally posted by amir
But, with all due respect, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
Indeed it must be pretty nice inside, and once inside, you can make the outside go away, smells and all.


A neighbor in Las Tunas told me of his plans to have a 24' metal container ''buried'' next to his house and he was going to use it as an office, or something. I thought the idea was a little different but not all that odd. There are alot of odd things about Baja -- a buried container isn't at the top of this list.

Isn't this post really about gossip? And poking fun at someone else's sense of style and taste?

A second thought about a ''funny'' looking home might be a wasted thought.

Are ''odd'' homes not allowed in Todos?

Hey, Amir! Que pasa, hombre? How's that house?


Lee ,

Those are good words to think about ....

As to the burried container, I believe if you could get six or eight feet of dirt over it the cooling costs would be cut in half or more !

CaboRon

DUHHH!

amir - 8-11-2008 at 08:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
Quote:
Originally posted by amir
But... WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???


...
Isn't this post really about gossip? And poking fun at someone else's sense of style and taste?
...

Are ''odd'' homes not allowed in Todos?

Hey, Amir! Que pasa, hombre? How's that house?


Poking fun? Why, what's wrong with that?
And gossip? Let me tell you what I heard about some other "odd" homes in Todos Santos. And while I'm at it, I'll tell you about Amir's casita: He should have followed his own rules...
To summarize, there is a Spanish saying that says it all: "Lo barato sale caro." But we're healthy and happy and ready to move in as soon as the floor sealer cures in a few days...

By the way, cool new avatar, Lee. And you also CaboRon.

Spill the beans, Amir!

Lee - 8-11-2008 at 09:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by amir
''Lo barato sale caro."

By the way, cool new avatar, Lee. And you also CaboRon.


I'm showing my lack of Spanish. What's it mean? Someone?

AND, David M, ''El Maestro'' created the avatar. What a guy! Sure glad he's here.

So, Amir, since we're discussing homes, etc., don't think you've written much about it and your process. Smooth as gravel? Problems that you laughed at? What would you do different?

We're going to be drinking at Hotel California next January -- Ron too!

And you're right. Nothing wrong with poking fun at people in BCS. Everybody does it.

CaboRon - 8-11-2008 at 09:59 AM

I'm down with that....

Have always liked the Hotel California ....

BTW. It seems Frank's is open in a limited fashion ....

Asked for Frank and the help said he was back in the US,

And they are not serving breakfast .... just burgers .

Quality seems to be a real issue when Frank is not in attendance.

You can never seem to get good help, especially when they are the inlaws :lol:

CaboRon


[Edited on 8-11-2008 by CaboRon]

Spill the frijoles?

amir - 8-11-2008 at 10:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
...
So, Amir, since we're discussing homes, etc., don't think you've written much about it and your process. Smooth as gravel? Problems that you laughed at? What would you do different?

We're going to be drinking at Hotel California next January -- Ron too!

And you're right. Nothing wrong with poking fun at people in BCS. Everybody does it.


Hey, that's a lot of questions and I don't want to hijack this thread; although CaboRon probably would like nothing better...

Anyway, the whole thing is a long story; at least a 3 or 4 Pacifico story... Bring your violin and some handkerchiefs...

And some people deserve to be poked fun at - there are a lot of eccentrics down here... I'm one of them... :lol::lol::lol:

jodiego - 9-6-2008 at 05:01 PM

I was watching the San Diego State/Notre Dame football game today and at halftime they did a story on a Notre Dame student who started a school project that has turned into a business where he turns old Conex's into homes for the needy in Mexico. The story stated there are literally thousands of these containers that are just sitting around gathering dust. They sure don't look all that comfortable, but for people who have been used to living on dirt floors with cardboard walls and roofs, they would certainly be a step up. I haven't seen any in my travels, but it would be great to seem them in use throughout the country.

CaboRon - 9-6-2008 at 05:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jodiego
I was watching the San Diego State/Notre Dame football game today and at halftime they did a story on a Notre Dame student who started a school project that has turned into a business where he turns old Conex's into homes for the needy in Mexico. The story stated there are literally thousands of these containers that are just sitting around gathering dust. They sure don't look all that comfortable, but for people who have been used to living on dirt floors with cardboard walls and roofs, they would certainly be a step up. I haven't seen any in my travels, but it would be great to seem them in use throughout the country.


Had to Google "Conex" and it is a military expression for shipping containers .... I have seen them used in a self-storage yard, as deliverable on site offices and many other applications. Gotta be like an oven in the summer .

CaboRon

BajaGringo - 9-6-2008 at 06:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon
Quote:
Originally posted by jodiego
I was watching the San Diego State/Notre Dame football game today and at halftime they did a story on a Notre Dame student who started a school project that has turned into a business where he turns old Conex's into homes for the needy in Mexico. The story stated there are literally thousands of these containers that are just sitting around gathering dust. They sure don't look all that comfortable, but for people who have been used to living on dirt floors with cardboard walls and roofs, they would certainly be a step up. I haven't seen any in my travels, but it would be great to seem them in use throughout the country.


Had to Google "Conex" and it is a military expression for shipping containers .... I have seen them used in a self-storage yard, as deliverable on site offices and many other applications. Gotta be like an oven in the summer .

CaboRon


I saw a home near San Luis Obispo last year built out of those old shipping containers. The owners used about 15-16 of them and made a pretty cool looking/modern design place with an ocean view to boot. They completely insulated the inside walls/ceilings and told me that the multi level 4 bedroom house with about 2400 sq ft and great roof deck cost them around $125K completely finished. You can get quite creative with them...

Skipjack Joe - 9-6-2008 at 06:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaboRon


I call it the "Loading Dock Casa" :lol::P


Has all the charm of Dachau.

wiltonh - 9-6-2008 at 08:49 PM

A couple of years ago they busted one of my neighbors in Oregon for growing pot in a buried container. They showed pictures of the inside and it had grow lights all along the ceiling.

A buried container does not show external heat on infrared from the lights.

Wilton

slimshady - 9-6-2008 at 08:51 PM

Is that an IKEA house?

slimshady - 9-6-2008 at 09:00 PM

That caliber of house would be worth 3 million dollars at Puerto Los Cabos.

NEW PICS

CaboRon - 9-7-2008 at 09:00 AM

Just took a couple of update shots this morning.





As you may have noticed this casa is part of a set of three.



A sort of archetecual statement by designer Sylvia St. Clair

Here the lovely home at the other end of the lot.





Make of it what you will :lol:

CaboRon

rob - 9-7-2008 at 12:06 PM

We bought a rottweiler from Sylvia - I think Wumpus would be right at home - he enjoys eating barbed wire and the cárcel cubist look.

David K - 9-7-2008 at 01:04 PM

Looks hurricane proof!:bounce::yes:

Kell-Baja - 9-7-2008 at 03:24 PM

Looks like a jail:no:

slimshady - 9-7-2008 at 07:40 PM

Maybe the owner is putting goats on his property.

slimshady - 9-8-2008 at 10:12 AM

Simple and functional. Maybe its a Mausoleum.

islandmusicteach - 9-8-2008 at 01:09 PM

Wow. This thread strikes me as mean-spirited and is getting more so by the day. Reminds me of busy-bodies who complain when the next door neighbor breaks the condo association rules. :barf: Let's leave whoever's house this is alone. I think when I get home this evening I'm going to start a new thread called "most excellent baja houses" where we get to post pics of casas that we feel best represent the spirit of Baja, Mexico. :fire:

gnukid - 9-8-2008 at 01:12 PM

Clearly there is a vision, a plan and well executed. It will likely serve well when complete. One must keep in mind that things in baja are different and suited to the environment and the task.

CaboRon - 9-8-2008 at 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by islandmusicteach
Wow. This thread strikes me as mean-spirited and is getting more so by the day. Reminds me of busy-bodies who complain when the next door neighbor breaks the condo association rules. :barf: Let's leave whoever's house this is alone. I think when I get home this evening I'm going to start a new thread called "most excellent baja houses" where we get to post pics of casas that we feel best represent the spirit of Baja, Mexico. :fire:


We are waiting for your new thread .... :bounce:

Cypress - 9-8-2008 at 01:41 PM

ooh!! It's just ickey!!!:lol:

mtgoat666 - 9-8-2008 at 02:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by islandmusicteach
Wow. This thread strikes me as mean-spirited and is getting more so by the day. Reminds me of busy-bodies who complain when the next door neighbor breaks the condo association rules. :barf: Let's leave whoever's house this is alone. I think when I get home this evening I'm going to start a new thread called "most excellent baja houses" where we get to post pics of casas that we feel best represent the spirit of Baja, Mexico. :fire:


some baja architecture critics build their vacation homes out of an old trailer, added an attached lean-to built of palm fronds, and decorate their roofs with barrels of water -- they are ones to talk -- locals ought to run such trailer trash out of town :lol:

1000lbBlue - 9-9-2008 at 03:23 AM

looks like my public storage