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Man vs Wild Baja Desert

Lorin - 8-6-2008 at 11:29 PM

Did anyone see Man vs Wild on Discovery Channel Wednesday night? Bear Grylls was crossing the desert on foot in northern Baja. I thought things got tough for Bear when he had to kill a skunk with a knife and eat it. But no, that was a minor inconvenience. Later his eyes swelled close when he was stung in the face by a bee from whose hive he was pilfering honey, followed by a few scenes in which he killed a rattlesnake, carefully removed the meat from the skin without puncturing it, saved the intact skin into which he later urinated, carried the snake skin around his neck as a sort of serpentine canteen, and yes, later, when facing dehydration, held the snakeskin above his head Hawaiian coconut style and proceeded to drink the entire tube of urine. And I get bummed out when I'm down there and can't find a cold Diet Coke.

AmoPescar - 8-7-2008 at 12:56 AM

I saw Bear in that episode tonight.

It was fun seeing Baja and hearing his commentary on it's deadliness and ruggedness. As usual, I was really grossed out several times, especially at the thought of him drinking his own urine. It was also interesting to see how much the Rattler's body kept moving after being beheaded. I always had heard about that happening, but had never witnessed it.

Miguelamo :yes:

Sharksbaja - 8-7-2008 at 02:52 AM

He's a freaking idiot!

capt. mike - 8-7-2008 at 05:56 AM

can you get a lime with that? :lol:

TMW - 8-7-2008 at 07:08 AM

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Originally posted by Lorin
Did anyone see Man vs Wild on Discovery Channel Wednesday night? Bear Grylls was crossing the desert on foot in northern Baja. I thought things got tough for Bear when he had to kill a skunk with a knife and eat it. But no, that was a minor inconvenience. Later his eyes swelled close when he was stung in the face by a bee from whose hive he was pilfering honey, followed by a few scenes in which he killed a rattlesnake, carefully removed the meat from the skin without puncturing it, saved the intact skin into which he later urinated, carried the snake skin around his neck as a sort of serpentine canteen, and yes, later, when facing dehydration, held the snakeskin above his head Hawaiian coconut style and proceeded to drink the entire tube of urine. And I get bummed out when I'm down there and can't find a cold Diet Coke.

I don't know him or seen the show but if there was a film crew filming him things were not as they appear to be. Unless he drinks his urine on a regular basis I doubt he was drinking it for the show.

rpleger - 8-7-2008 at 07:32 AM

Maybe the film crew provided the urine...Naw, thats too much cheating...

Diver - 8-7-2008 at 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
He's a freaking idiot!

I'll second that vote !
What a waste of air time.

ELINVESTIG8R - 8-7-2008 at 09:44 AM

This sounds like what I did as a kid some forty years ago. Only thing is I did not drink my urine!

bajagrouper - 8-7-2008 at 10:28 AM

I liked the ending when one minuet he in in the salt flats and the next he is tearing off his shirt to jump into the Sea of Cortez. I would have hitched a ride when I came to the Mexicali/ San Felipe highway...

Sharksbaja - 8-7-2008 at 12:04 PM

Just off-screen to left would be the quads they rode out on.

CaboRon - 8-7-2008 at 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
This sounds like what I did as a kid some forty years ago. Only thing is I did not drink my urine!

It is basic survival training.

Cypress - 8-7-2008 at 12:28 PM

The whole "man vs this or that" concept is silly. :no:

The camera crew is standing by with cold beer and munchos. :lol:

CaboRon - 8-7-2008 at 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
The whole "man vs this or that" concept is silly. :no:

The camera crew is standing by with cold beer and munchos. :lol:

They say there is no interaction between him and the crew...

I find that hard to believe .....

Throw another shrimp on the barbie :lol:

CaboRon

aha baja - 8-7-2008 at 12:39 PM

Do you REALY think he drank ANY urine??? Bee stung face, baja heat(mid-day!) snake gut/skin container holding pee.I vote NO!!!

bancoduo - 8-7-2008 at 12:40 PM

CYNICS :lol:

Scorpimon - 8-7-2008 at 12:59 PM

I did catch last nights season 3 opening episode and of course there is a supporting crew, and disclaimers run on the screen stating they are available in case of emergencies. Bear is from the British Special Forces and is one tough and knowledgable dude concerning survival techniques. They can't fake alot of the live stuff he eats on the show and in this episode if they faked his face swelling up from the bee sting they did a good job. Anything shown on TV needs to be viewed with your own subjective filters. I personally don't think I am that gullible, but my vote is that he did indeed drink his own urine. There was an episode of surviorman once where he peed into a bottle and brought it up and drank it without a stoppage in filming also.

Cypress - 8-7-2008 at 01:09 PM

I'm all about survival, but drinking pee?

Come on.

What's for dinner? :?:

Lorin - 8-7-2008 at 01:25 PM

Drinking one's own urine is not all that uncommon. Besides dong it to avoid dehydration, some people do it because they believe it improves their health. Others do it, I believe, for religious reasons. I remember many years ago watching on 60 Minutes an interview with the leader of India (It was a man-I forget his name- his title was Prime Minister or something like that). In this interview he acknowledged that he regularly drank his own urine. It's more common than one might think.

Lorin - 8-7-2008 at 01:33 PM

Make that "Besides doing it..." To err is human.

Sharksbaja - 8-7-2008 at 01:34 PM

Ok,.... he's a British idiot! :smug:

Yep, folks sit around drinkin' those "Peepees" with a twist. Straight up, NO ICE dammit!

Amazing the influence those reality shows have on folks. :rolleyes:

Cypress - 8-7-2008 at 01:46 PM

Lorin, Glad to have you onboard and contributing to the forum. :bounce:

Von - 8-7-2008 at 02:03 PM

mmm salty beverage my favorite....

Neal Johns - 8-7-2008 at 03:39 PM

bajagrouper, I caught that missing Hwy. 5 also.

The explanation is simple - there is a new 4wd route from Laguna Salada east to the Vermilion Sea that somehow misses crossing the highway! We just haven't found it yet. I saw it on TV so it has to be true! :lol:

movinguy - 8-7-2008 at 03:45 PM

I think the dude on "Survivorman" uses his own camera and is actually alone in those locations (theoretically) . . .

bajagrouper - 8-7-2008 at 03:54 PM

Hola Neal, I thought he would end his trip by stumbling into the El Dorado Ranch Estates and buying a lot, then running into the water and stepping on a sting ray, I enjoy my c-cktails sin sal...

Lorin - 8-7-2008 at 04:21 PM

Cypress, thanks to you and others who have welcomed me. Much of what I have been reading here has been inspiring me to get my "butt in gear" and renew Baja travels that I have neglected for too long.
In regard to that Survivorman guy, Les Stroud. He's a Canadian, I believe, with a background in music, and yes, he does travel by himself. He sets up cameras around his campsites or when he is walking he often carries a long stick with a camera mounted on it and pointed back at himself so he can look into and talk into the camera.

CaboRon - 8-7-2008 at 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Lorin
Cypress, thanks to you and others who have welcomed me. Much of what I have been reading here has been inspiring me to get my "butt in gear" and renew Baja travels that I have neglected for too long.
In regard to that Survivorman guy, Les Stroud. He's a Canadian, I believe, with a background in music, and yes, he does travel by himself. He sets up cameras around his campsites or when he is walking he often carries a long stick with a camera mounted on it and pointed back at himself so he can look into and talk into the camera.

mtgoat666 - 8-7-2008 at 07:41 PM

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lorin,
He records his "journeys" with a camera on a stick? PT Barnum would have eaten you for lunch.

The survivor dude is really dumb. He should have carried food and water with him on his Baja trip, and done it during cool weather. Drinking his pee, when he could have carried a bottle of Sparklets pure spring water. Dumb bunny. Survivor man aint too smart, and the people who watch his show may be even less smart.

bancoduo - 8-7-2008 at 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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Les Stroud aka Dr Tom

Mango - 8-7-2008 at 08:04 PM

Basicly, I thought it was cool. As an old mountaineer and someone who has been trained in wilderness survival I often have a problem about Bear's decisions.

For one.. He always seems to find some cliff that he needs to scale. This is B.S. .. walk around it, etc.. find another way.. 30 minutes spent walking around it will save your life. A twisted ankle or splatted body does nothing for you..

Also.. I found it funny he found a wire and new looking car seat in a 50 year old truck. Did you notice that absolutely nothing else was in the truck, ... those items were planted.

Otherwise.. it was entertaining.. though I'd spend more time finding water and civilization than I would finding skunks.. If Bear followed his own rules.. he would too.

Lorin - 8-7-2008 at 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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Lorin - 8-7-2008 at 08:28 PM

mtgoat666
I may watch the show and I may not be too smart. but I think you're having trouble following the train of thought in the thread. Survivorman (Les Stroud, who travels alone) is not the guy who drank his urine. Survivorman is a different show. Bear Grylls is the guy who was crossing Baja and drank his urine on the show Man vs Wild. He travels with a camera crew.

vgabndo - 8-7-2008 at 08:47 PM

Neither one of those guys is really on the up and up as far as I have researched it, but Da Bear just delights in running full tilt down talus and scree slopes, climbing cliffs when he doesn't need to, and all manner of things that a normal person wouldn't think of doing to reduce their chance of survival if lost in the woods.

I liked Les' float in the Carrib and landing on the Belizian Island. In '91 I hired a guy to strand me on an empty island like that for 8 days. (Ranguana Cay) I had a great time. :yes:

BajaNuts - 8-7-2008 at 11:10 PM

besides the Hollywood factor, both of these "survivor-ist" TV show try to demonstrate extreme measures any normal person can do to survive in whatever situation they might be in.

Yea...climbing and jumping off the cliffs etc....may be over done for the tv factor, but the basics of eating a grub or ants may save the life of someone who wanders off the trail or breaks down out the boonies.............or how about digging down for water and then using charcoal and grass to filter the water so you don't get the s#!)s from contaminated water?

sound like it could POSSIBLY happen to anyone in this community............................................................................................................................................. .............?

Take it for what it is and try to get a little education from the shows

Earth to Nomads!!!....Earth to Nomads!!!

Sharksbaja - 8-8-2008 at 12:28 AM

Hello!!!!!!

It's called a production crew if you didn't know. They help "make" movies that people might believe.

Don't get me wrong, it's not a bad thing to promote survival.

Remember though that, save being impaled by a stingray. all goes to plan, normally. Yep, right down to guzzling urine.

Now, I see some entertainment value for sure. They incorporate lots of nasty predicaments. Lots of logical remedies.

But give me a break, a guy who understands coping and dealing with the harsh elements like a bonafide survivalist doesn't run across the desert dunes without water at 12 noon.

Rather they would "make" their own water during the day and travel at night. Remember he has a "survival pack" to make fire yo cook snake.. :lol:

I find the hyped premise is overstated and also potentially dangerous to heed or otherwise emulate this jerk.

It's all sensationalism and geared to get dumbchits to think you could survive behaving like he does.
:mad:

Don't believe it, it's all Hollywood. :rolleyes:

These films are made by pros. If you feel good about watching them it's probably because they have done a good job producingf them.

One more thing. Anybody so tuned in as this dork is supposed to be would most certainly carry an epi-pen or equivalent to prevent aniphylactic shock from bee stings like he's allergic to.

I'd guess a bet that he DID have to take a antidote. :wow:

I sure am glad Vagabundo see the reality!

TMW - 8-8-2008 at 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by Scorpimon
I did catch last nights season 3 opening episode and of course there is a supporting crew, and disclaimers run on the screen stating they are available in case of emergencies. Bear is from the British Special Forces and is one tough and knowledgable dude concerning survival techniques. They can't fake alot of the live stuff he eats on the show and in this episode if they faked his face swelling up from the bee sting they did a good job. Anything shown on TV needs to be viewed with your own subjective filters. I personally don't think I am that gullible, but my vote is that he did indeed drink his own urine. There was an episode of surviorman once where he peed into a bottle and brought it up and drank it without a stoppage in filming also.

With todays computer editing systems you can make anything into anything. The graphics can be manipulated and morphed into looking like a smooth transistion. Don't believe what you always see on TV, it may or may not be what it appears.

TV Sat 10PM

Garry - 8-8-2008 at 01:51 PM

Hola, My tv guide says it will show again at 10pm Sat. here in Sacramento Ca.

Cypress - 8-8-2008 at 02:39 PM

So the guy drinks pee and runs uphill in the desert during the middle of the day.

bajagrouper - 8-8-2008 at 03:09 PM

He also jumps giant boulders like a billy goat and walks the salt flats at high noon, Que hombre

bacquito - 8-8-2008 at 03:39 PM

I too have heard of people bathing and drinking their urine. It, I believe, is practiced in Mexico and other Latin American countries.

vandenberg - 8-8-2008 at 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by bacquito
I too have heard of people bathing and drinking their urine. It, I believe, is practiced in Mexico and other Latin American countries.

Bathing ??
Now that would take a couple of truckloads of Ballenas. :saint:

Definitely would need outside help.
Dennis. :?:

[Edited on 8-8-2008 by vandenberg]

BajaGringo - 8-8-2008 at 05:33 PM

Some areas of China follow the practice of drinking a glass of their own urine once a day. They believe it leads to a longer and healthier life.

I guess I would just have to settle for a short life then...

:lol:

CaboRon - 8-8-2008 at 07:37 PM

And I was worried about the cloudy water .... :lol:

Von - 8-8-2008 at 07:41 PM

o man that brown juice looks interesting going to have try that one day.....

BajaWarrior - 8-8-2008 at 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Von
o man that brown juice looks interesting going to have try that one day.....

Yeah, chunky style :barf:

aha baja - 8-8-2008 at 09:12 PM

Time to put on the hip waders... for the elephant dung and the rest of the crap that you would have to do to survive...Just how much a year does that guy make doing that show? Or is he doing community service for some crime he commited. Looks like a good premis for a reality show for college frat initiation hazing :lol:

lizard lips - 8-9-2008 at 09:33 AM

What's disgusting about that? Put a little J & B in it and you have Dennis's favorite drink.

It's on the drink menu at Sharkey's.

DENNIS - 8-9-2008 at 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by vandenberg
[Bathing ??
Now that would take a couple of truckloads of Ballenas. :saint:

Definitely would need outside help.
Dennis. :?:

Bathe in urine? No way. That's disgusting although I do use it in my steam iron for my various Sharkys outfits. It guarantees me a seat at the bar and lots of room on either side for newspapers and other stuff.

DENNIS - 8-9-2008 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by lizard lips
What's disgusting about that? Put a little J & B in it and you have Dennis's favorite drink.

It's on the drink menu at Sharkey's.

J&B? nope. Not for me. Scotch is an aquired taste I never learned to appreciate. Everything else sounds yummy though. Who's buying?

Cypress - 8-9-2008 at 10:44 AM

Take a swig or two of pee.

Then run up and down desert mountains in the noon day heat, while your pre-positioned camera films it? P double E! :biggrin:

The energy drink of the future? :?:

DENNIS - 8-9-2008 at 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by grover
I wanna see him do a Baja episode where he wrings a sip out of a used Pamper.

He wouldn't have to go far afield to pull that off. There are numerous "canteens" rolling around the Gigante parking lot at all times.

aha baja - 8-9-2008 at 12:01 PM

:lol:

HIGH FIVER :lol:

lizard lips - 8-9-2008 at 12:10 PM

I am really surprised that all of you are making fun of this guy--- I think it's great to know that next time I'm in the plains of Africa or the Gigante parking lot I won't die from thirst!

aha baja - 8-9-2008 at 12:18 PM

but maybe dysentery

Kell-Baja - 8-9-2008 at 03:52 PM

Ewwww Not sad that I missed that.

805gregg - 8-10-2008 at 07:01 AM

All of those so called reality shows, are far from reality. The only reson for their existance is to allow, filming without script writers, actors and all that other costly stuff that makes for good programing. I don't watch any of it it's all fake.

ELINVESTIG8R - 8-10-2008 at 07:22 AM

I saw it last night and thought it was a good piece.

dean miller - 8-10-2008 at 07:33 AM

Urine;

Prior to the advent of modern laboratory procedures it was common for the attending doctor to place a drop of urine on the tip of his finger and smell and if necessary taste it to determine sweetness which would indicate a diabetic condition of the patient. Things have changed...

It is an accepted survivor procedure to bathe in urine to replace the loss of body fluids via sensible(sweating etc) or insensible (respiratory etc) loss.

In extreme cases it is a necessity in order to survive the loss of body fluids by drinking urine It has been done many times and the people survived.

It is a common practice among the natives of Africa to bathe and drink urine of humans and cattle to replace sensible and insensible loss of fluids.

It is (was) taught in USAF officer Evasion and Survival school, but not (to my knowledge) practiced

Ken Bondy - 8-10-2008 at 07:41 AM

It even has its own term in Wikopedia: Urophagia

dean miller - 8-10-2008 at 07:50 AM

Urophagia;

Uro = urine

Phagia = thrist

Sharksbaja - 8-10-2008 at 12:51 PM

Sensible loss of body fluids= bloody nose
Insensible loss of body fluids= arm ripped off by a lion

aha baja - 8-10-2008 at 01:08 PM

only mad dogs and engishmen go out in the noonday,out in the noonday,out in the noonday sun! NOEL COWARD

dean miller - 8-10-2008 at 10:07 PM

It is midday sun...not noonday...sun

From mad dogs and Englishmen ...1930

Mad Dogs & Englishmen
Go out in the midday sun.
The Japanese don't care to,
The Chinese wouldn't dare to,
Hindus and Argentines
Sleep firmly from twelve to one,
But Englishmen
Detest a
Siesta.

etc etc etc...many more verses

aha baja - 8-11-2008 at 10:57 AM

You are correct! ( Ed McMahon) :lol:

BajaNuts - 8-12-2008 at 10:11 PM

"I don't watch any of it it's all fake."

805gregg...just wondering how you know it's fake if you don't watch it????
Are you basing your perception of all reality-based TV shows on one show you have seen in the past?

Not criticizing!!!!!!!!!!!just wondering.............

BAJACAT - 12-25-2008 at 02:44 PM

I just saw this on wenesday, it's a re-run,can pin point the location but it looks west of San Felipe, on the show he try to eat a pinacate(sting bug), you can tell he didn't enjoy that.when he gets stung by the bees you can see a hand helping him remove the stinger from his eye, the salt flats look like Diablo's but it also could be Laguna Salada, it's funny how he reaches the coast and you don't see H5, real or not I ilke the produccers taking the Baja desert as a area to be a beatifull place and also a deathly one.

PS I like the show, just becacuse it was about Baja.

Skeet/Loreto - 12-25-2008 at 03:30 PM

I have been reading this Thread and understanding my repeated Rants about this Younger Generation!~

Can you just imagine, we are getting ready to turn our Country over to this Generation who have been rasied on TV shows!!

Lord, Help us All.

And the Farmer Hauled another Load Away!!

Mango - 12-25-2008 at 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I have been reading this Thread and understanding my repeated Rants about this Younger Generation!~

Can you just imagine, we are getting ready to turn our Country over to this Generation who have been rasied on TV shows!!

Lord, Help us All.

And the Farmer Hauled another Load Away!!

Yeah, if the performance of the generation that was raised on radio shows is any indication... we're in trouble! :lol:

HCR - 12-25-2008 at 04:35 PM

The recession may be bad, but it can't be THAT bad!

Skeet/Loreto - 12-25-2008 at 04:52 PM

But Mango: Losten Up!
We of the Grestest Generation have done so much in the past 60 years that we hate to see all our Great Work Go to Waste.
We developed,
Honesty
Honor
Respect,
Truth. Kindness,
As well as fought 2 World Wars, protected those Cowardly French, Korea, Vetnam, Irag{Saddam is no more}.

Had Harry S. Truman, John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, went to the Moon, developed the Computer, had three presidents from Texas{The Greatest State of the Union}, survived the 60's even tho the "Do it if it feels good Bunch are still around".

Only trouble we failed in keeping those Yongsters off of Drugs, Now we pay!!, They pay, everbody Pays!

Why don't people learn that they cannot live off somone else, it is time for them to "Cut Bait or Fish".

Skeet

vgabndo - 12-25-2008 at 06:04 PM

Let's not forget the septuagenarian propensity for HIGHJACKING threads.

As for the "greatest generation" in Viet Nam. The average age of the 68,000 who died was NINETEEN. Don't get me started about Texan presidents! :fire:

Mango - 12-25-2008 at 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
But Mango: Losten Up!

I'm plenty loose. I was just poking fun.

All those things you listed are great. They have come and gone and will come and go again countless times.

IMO - We humans are silly creatures that run in circles/cycles just like everything else.

yes... we have our priories mixed up; but, it started way before this generation.

I went to one of the better public schools/school districts in the nation. In the late 1980's my science book said, "When man lands on the moon, the spaceship will most likely be made of balsa wood due to its high strength to weight ratio." My science book was over 35 years old, the buildings were falling apart, and our locker room was condemned my senior year.

I'm sure glad they were busy building prisons to house all the under-educated marooons they were producing.

Prisoners don't pay taxes. You'd think it would be in the governments own self interest to put education second in line behind defense. The problem is not lack of money, the problem is lack of will and accountability.

Conversely, I had a doctorate for an English teacher in high school. Even though the heater was broken and the floor was dirty because they couldn't afford to pay the janitors.

I'm loose... But don't blame this mess on the kids...

<hijack off>

Skeet/Loreto - 12-26-2008 at 08:18 AM

Just having a little Fun!

Seems as if you ask a 50 year old a Question, his answer comes back adressed on what happened in a current Movie.

Not trying to steal the Thread, just pointing out that sometimes the "Cheater based Culture" gets so into a TV program, they appear to believe that all onTV is TRUE!

This was showing in the Posts on this Thread..

Have a good day, go shopping, spend your money, go out into the wide World and learn the Truth First Hand, not from TV, Movies and Liberal College Profs.

Skeet

bajaandy - 12-26-2008 at 08:44 AM

Back to the Man vs. Wild thing... I personally don't like the show, but the premise is OK. Would have been better if he'd been in the middle of the Vizcaino Desert. I wonder what it would be like camping out with one of those survival dudes in Baja... seems like they'd be fun enough around a campfire.

fdt - 3-7-2009 at 04:24 PM

For those who didn't see it, here it is;

EnseNADAslim - 3-8-2009 at 01:55 PM

I think Bear should just hook up with some illegals crossing the boarder in Northern Baja and I bet they could teach him a thing or two,,,,,or he could just pick up your local survival booklet on "how to cross in to the US and live to tell your families about it".

Good old Bear, but personally I like Survivor Man best---the dude packs his own camera gear--such a manly man.

Cyanide41 - 3-9-2009 at 07:42 AM

While Bear was caught "roughing" it in hotels, he does provide some good knowledge. Yes those grubs COULD be fake, but I highly doubt it. That bee sting looked pretty authentic too. It straight out tells you on the show that some items are placed and local experts as well as survival experts are on hand. Hey, I learned how to set snares watching Bear and Les.