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What kind of Baja eagle is this?

Von - 8-28-2008 at 09:24 PM

Anyone know what kind of eagle this is.

Theres two of them that live in the tree at my uncles ranch by the old alamo mind heading towards San Felipe.

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Baja-Brit - 8-29-2008 at 03:14 AM

Any chance of posting a larger image or perhaps post a link to a clickable image?

It may also be an idea to crop the image so we can concentrate on the bird.

As you were.

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woody with a view - 8-29-2008 at 07:19 AM

looks like one of these. as seen near el rosario. i can't remember what they are called but someone here will.

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Cardon - 8-29-2008 at 08:58 AM

Looks like a Harris Hawk to me.

Martyman - 8-29-2008 at 09:00 AM

Harris Hawk

Natalie Ann - 8-29-2008 at 10:07 AM

Small point of interest....
I recently spent some time with the woman who manages the vivarium in La Paz.
She said that the Harris Hawk is the only hawk native to Baja.

Nena

Baja-Brit - 8-29-2008 at 02:15 PM

I have some half decent pictures of an Osprey, taken in Los Barilles in Jan this year.

http://www.baja-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14

As you were.

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Harris hawk --beautiful bird !!

beercan - 8-29-2008 at 02:56 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_Hawk

Skipjack Joe - 8-29-2008 at 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by Baja-Brit
I have some half decent pictures of an Osprey, taken in Los Barilles in Jan this year.

http://www.baja-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14

As you were.

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Are you sure that's an osprey?

Baja-Brit - 8-29-2008 at 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

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Originally posted by Baja-Brit
I have some half decent pictures of an Osprey, taken in Los Barilles in Jan this year.

http://www.baja-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14

As you were.

Are you sure that's an osprey?

Thats what I believe it to be .....but by all means correct me if I am wrong! :yes:

As you were.

so NOT an osprey

stimbo - 8-29-2008 at 05:23 PM

Harris hawk for sure.

Dave - 8-29-2008 at 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by Natalie Ann
Small point of interest....
I recently spent some time with the woman who manages the vivarium in La Paz.
She said that the Harris Hawk is the only hawk native to Baja.

I've seen quite a few kestrels and chicken hawks.

tortuga - 8-29-2008 at 05:24 PM

Baja Brit. I don't think that is an Osprey. Here in Idaho they have white on breast and head. However awesome pictures, what camera were you using.
Saludos, Tortuga

tortuga - 8-29-2008 at 05:34 PM

Here is an Osprey with chick at Haggerman ,Idaho

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Wiles - 8-29-2008 at 05:41 PM

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Red-Tailed Hawk. Very nice photos by the way. Thanks.

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Hawk

tehag - 8-29-2008 at 06:11 PM

Parabuteo unicinctus - aguililla de Harris - Harris’s hawk

Pandion haliaetus - gavilán pescador – osprey

Buteo jamaicensis - aguililla cola-roja - red-tailed hawk

tortuga - 8-29-2008 at 06:41 PM

Awesome pictures Tehag ! So, are there Ospreys in Baja California

Osprey

tehag - 8-29-2008 at 08:11 PM

Tortuga:

Ospreys are common in Baja. Anywhere near water you may see them daily.

All 3 shots were taken this year in Baja Sur.

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oxxo - 8-29-2008 at 08:18 PM

Thanks everyone! Most educational! I have now been able to identify my friend who hangs out in the Palm Tree as a Harris Hawk.

Baja-Brit - 8-30-2008 at 03:29 AM

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Originally posted by tortuga
However awesome pictures, what camera were you using.

I was just using a Fujifilm S7000:

I have since upgraded somewhat, so next time I spot one I'll have even better photo's!

Thanks for correcting me on the bird chaps.

As you were.

hawk

pappy - 8-30-2008 at 07:28 AM

if there is some reddish/rust coloring on wings then it' a harris hawk, common to that area. if not, could be a misplaced common black hawk usually found along western coats of the mainland..

pappy - 8-30-2008 at 07:29 AM

oops-make that coast, not coats.. :biggrin:

Natalie Ann - 8-30-2008 at 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Dave

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I've seen quite a few kestrels and chicken hawks.

I think I have seen kestrels in Baja and what I assumed to be red-tailed hawks (which are also called chicken hawks). Can't be sure on I.D. as I'm not real good with birds.

I think that kestrels are actually part of the falcon family - a distinction the vivarium woman likely considered.

I'm not sure about the Harris being the only hawk native to Baja.... just repeating what I learned in 'class'. :yes:

Are osprey hawks or eagles?

Nena

Correct--

beercan - 8-30-2008 at 08:46 AM

I help raise a "nest of Kestrels " when the nest fell into my back yard. Had to avoid Mom & dad in order to help, but within weeks they hopped up to the top of the fence and were flying with Mom & Dad providing cover !!

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I think that kestrels are actually part of the falcon family

bacquito - 8-30-2008 at 08:59 AM

So interesting, thanks for the photo sharing.

Nena

tortuga - 8-30-2008 at 09:30 AM

" Are Ospreys Hawks or Eagles?" Check out this web-site http://www.thefez.net/osprey/articles/naturalhistory.htm
down at bottom of page it shows the different families of raptors.
Saludos, Tortuga

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Woooosh - 8-30-2008 at 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by beercan
I help raise a "nest of Kestrels " when the nest fell into my back yard. Had to avoid Mom & dad in order to help, but within weeks they hopped up to the top of the fence and were flying with Mom & Dad providing cover !!

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I think that kestrels are actually part of the falcon family

The American Kestrel is a falcon and baja native. They mostly hunt crickets, lizards and small birds like starlings. I have rasied four since finding two abandoned babies two years ago.

Natalie Ann - 8-30-2008 at 09:55 AM

Thank you, Tortuga, for the link. I see that an osprey is a type of falcon.

Woosh and Beercan - how interesting to find/raise those baby kestrels. My neighbor has an American Kestrel, built a big aviary for it in his back yard. I love visiting it. Beautiful bird.

Nena

Osprey - 8-30-2008 at 10:09 AM

I think kestrels are nest robbers too. I think they eat chicks and/or eggs. I have seen the orioles buzz them, haze them, trying to run them off, away from nesting sites. Since orioles eat nectar I can't imagine another reason for this behavior.

Dave - 8-30-2008 at 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Natalie Ann
I think that kestrels are actually part of the falcon family - a distinction the vivarium woman likely considered.

I'm not sure about the Harris being the only hawk native to Baja.... just repeating what I learned in 'class'. :yes:

Are osprey hawks or eagles?

Nena

Aren't we splitting hairs? Aren't hawks, eagles and falcons all just a subset of the same order? They're all raptors, right?

woody with a view - 8-30-2008 at 10:51 AM

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Aren't we splitting hairs? Aren't hawks, eagles and falcons all just a subset of the same order? They're all raptors, right?

don't forget this guy!!!

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Woooosh - 8-30-2008 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Osprey
I think kestrels are nest robbers too. I think they eat chicks and/or eggs. I have seen the orioles buzz them, haze them, trying to run them off, away from nesting sites. Since orioles eat nectar I can't imagine another reason for this behavior.

Yes, they eat small birds- even their own offspring. Not sure they can break an egg though- their curved beaks are small and made for tearing, not pecking.

I can never seem to post pictures, although I've followed all the tips. By the time I downsize a 8 megapixel photo to 64K for posting- it's so small you can't really tell what the pic is of. I'd love to post a pic of one of my Kestrels- but can't seem to get it done.

Natalie Ann - 8-30-2008 at 12:19 PM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Are osprey hawks or eagles?

Nena

Aren't we splitting hairs? Aren't hawks, eagles and falcons all just a subset of the same order? They're all raptors, right?

The order is falconiformes... the order has various families and the various families each have different types of raptors. Osprey and falcons are from different families.

And btw, I misread the link.... osprey are the same family as eagles and vultures and harriers... falcons and caracaras are from their own family.

Splitting hairs? I guess. I was particularly interested, that's all.

And speaking of hares.... are they the same as jackalopes and lop-eared bunnies?

Nena

Woooosh - 8-30-2008 at 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Natalie Ann

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Originally posted by Dave

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Are osprey hawks or eagles?

Nena

Aren't we splitting hairs? Aren't hawks, eagles and falcons all just a subset of the same order? They're all raptors, right?

Nena

I miss my jackalope. My wall hasn't been the same since it left. They are native to the ski-town bars of Colorado I believe.

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Woooosh - 8-30-2008 at 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by Natalie Ann
Thank you, Tortuga, for the link. I see that an osprey is a type of falcon.

Woosh and Beercan - how interesting to find/raise those baby kestrels. My neighbor has an American Kestrel, built a big aviary for it in his back yard. I love visiting it. Beautiful bird.

Nena

Once I found out Kestrels were native to urban Rosarito Beach- I couldn't help but try to save them. Only one in five survives the first year in the wild. We have other large birds at the house- but no meat eaters. I joined a yahoo group for kestrel falconers, learned enough to know what I was getting myself in to, and gave it a shot.

We bulit a flight aviary for them and added some nest boxes (hence the young ones). I am training the two offspring (julio and milo) to hunt so I can release them back into the neighborhood. I put a nest box high up on the side of my house in case they decide to stick around. There is no shortage of sparrows here for them. They are beautiful birds to handle and study. They do cost more than my three labs together to care for though.

Baja-Brit - 8-30-2008 at 01:26 PM

Easy to identify Eurasian or "Old World" Kestrels in the UK ......it's the only bird that can hover!

I assume American Kestrels hover aswell?

As you were.

Baja-Brit - 8-30-2008 at 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by Baja-Brit
I have some half decent pictures of an Osprey, taken in Los Barilles in Jan this year.

http://www.baja-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14

As you were.

I have added some more bird pictures to the thread above.

Please let me know if I have mis-identified.

Thanks

As you were.

Woooosh - 8-30-2008 at 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by Baja-Brit
Easy to identify Eurasian or "Old World" Kestrels in the UK ......it's the only bird that can hover!

I assume American Kestrels hover aswell?

As you were.

Yes indeed, the North American Kestrel hovers as well. A very unusal flight trait- but handly for a bird that hunts a lot of bugs. It also makes it easy to feed them from the glove- they put their tails down and hover over me in place- then gradually drop down and grab the tidbit (piece of quail).

Skipjack Joe - 9-1-2008 at 07:14 PM

Another local bird that hovers is a kite. They are larger than a kestrel and almost pure white.

I don't know if I remember right but it seemed to me that kestrels were far more common here in central california only 30 years ago. Common along our open coast - which has remained open. Can't understand why the decline in numbers. Would be interested in a confirmation of my observations and any known cause.

Woooosh - 9-1-2008 at 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe

I don't know if I remember right but it seemed to me that kestrels were far more common here in central california only 30 years ago. Common along our open coast - which has remained open. Can't understand why the decline in numbers. Would be interested in a confirmation of my observations and any known cause.

Another victim of lack of habitat...

"Although kestrels are not an endangered species, their numbers have declined. Habitat loss, and in particular, the loss of nesting sites, is a primary cause. Kestrels cannot excavate their own nest holes; they depend on the holes and cavities created by woodpeckers. For years the wildlife value of dead or partially dead old trees went unrecognized. Dead trees were cut to clear land, for firewood, or simply because they were perceived as ugly or useless. Fewer dead trees meant fewer nest sites and fewer kestrels. Today, across North America, there are many areas with plenty of open space and food for kestrels, but kestrels are absent simply because there are no nest sites."

Put up a few nest boxes!