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Sea turtles lay eggs by the Malecon

fdt - 9-30-2008 at 11:34 AM

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n871868.htm

Yahoo Babel fish Translation...

David K - 9-30-2008 at 03:26 PM

In English (well sort of):lol:

La Paz, South Baja California. - The past weekend four marine turtles laid eggs in the bay of La Paz, one of did it to them next to the kiosk of the levee, did the other it opposite, in the Wooded hill, leaves from eggs are under defense, the rest are in the surrounded nests; until the moment there is no a precise explanation than the authorities they have indicated like a disorientation of the turtles, since historically La Paz is not within the zones of anidación.

The National Commission of Protected Natural Areas, SEMARNAT, PROFEPA and the Navy, levee received the dawn of Sunday a citizen warning on the presence of a turtle laying eggs in the heat of, next to the sculpture of the dove, in front of the terminal of buses, first in arriving were the officials of the Navy Armed of Mexico, who put eggs to defense, to their arrival the turtle had returned to the water, so that it has not been possible to need the species the same.

The personnel of Navy retired 37 eggs he buried and them in the beach that is within the naval zone, where they will be protected awaiting which spent the period of gestation, 45 days, are born the first marine turtles paceñas. Before, the day Friday, personnel who works in works of Paradise of the Sea, in the Wooded hill, reported the existence of three nests of turtle, same which they were corroborated by the authorities, the zone has been surrounded, and people of PROFEPA and CONANP will watch the process until the appearance, when the turtles are born.

The presence of four turtles laying eggs in this zone, makes think about the possibility of the arrival of more quelonios until these coasts, nevertheless does not have, according to the own authorities of PROFEPA, solid arguments that can explain arribazón with causes, for example, related to the climatic change.

woody with a view - 9-30-2008 at 04:32 PM

this is either tragic or comedic...

tragic for the turtles because the paper just told EVERYONE where to get turtles/eggs. just in case your balls need to be pumped up with an aphrodisiac. small balls, small minds!

comedic because the turtles are just giving up, praying for an anchor baby and saying, "if i make it in the big city, i can make it anywhere!" :no:

redmesa - 9-30-2008 at 05:35 PM

I hope all the environmentalist like my daughter have video camera on the eggs and are monitoring them 24 -7.

danaeb - 9-30-2008 at 06:38 PM

After all the bad news lately, this makes me smile - especially the part about the navy reburying them in a location under their jurisdiction so they can be guarded.

I can just imagine all the jockeying for who's the best babysitter among the Navy, PROFEPA and SEMARNAT.:yes:

gnukid - 9-30-2008 at 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
this is either tragic or comedic...

tragic for the turtles because the paper just told EVERYONE where to get turtles/eggs. just in case your balls need to be pumped up with an aphrodisiac. small balls, small minds!

comedic because the turtles are just giving up, praying for an anchor baby and saying, "if i make it in the big city, i can make it anywhere!" :no:


Its interesting from a scientific (sic) view. The Turtles are known for returning to their birthplace every 2 or years after they cross the hemisphere. Except that they often come back to places which are city fronts or main parking spots. Why? The questions looms were they born here? Are they choosing alternate spots? Will they return? Interesting? All in all the efforts to conserve do seem to have impact and almost immediately so! Bienvenidos los conservadores des Tortugas wei!

bajaguy - 9-30-2008 at 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by danaeb
After all the bad news lately, this makes me smile - especially the part about the navy reburying them in a location under their jurisdiction so they can be guarded.

I can just imagine all the jockeying for who's the best babysitter among the Navy, PROFEPA and SEMARNAT.:yes:




My money is on the navy.....they have guns....:lol:

ecomujeres - 9-30-2008 at 09:13 PM

There's a lot more that those of us involved in turtle conservation/biology don't know about the lives of sea turtles than what we do know. A plausible explanation is that in not being able to find the beach where it hatched 20-30 years ago, it finally went for what was at hand under pressure to lay.

FYI: Mulege isn't considered to be in the nesting area, but nests are still occasionally reported and documented there.

And: Hijole! Por favor, no more Babel Fish torture! :biggrin:

fdt - 9-30-2008 at 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
tragic for the turtles because the paper just told EVERYONE where to get turtles/eggs. just in case your balls need to be pumped up with an aphrodisiac. small balls, small minds!


I know of people eating turtle eggs in mainland México but I've not known people in Baja California or Baja California Sur that eat the eggs.

[Edited on 10-1-2008 by fdt]

danaeb - 9-30-2008 at 09:28 PM

Que tengan buena suerte en sus viajes las tortugitas pacenas

ecomujeres - 9-30-2008 at 09:35 PM

Poaching of both turtle eggs and meat is still a big problem in Baja. It is such an ingrained cultural issue throughout Mexico and one that is often hard to deal with.

But there are positive changes occurring as local communities throughout the peninsula are becoming more involved in turtle conservation and environmental education, which is having a positive impact, especially on attitudes of the younger generation (see: www.grupotortuguero.org and www.propeninsula.org).

We have also seen former poachers become some of the best spokespeople for turtle conservation as they see their fishing livelihood being threatened by bad fishing practices all over.

Long way to go, but turtle conservation activities throughout the peninsula are very positive overall.

fishbuck - 9-30-2008 at 09:43 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Quote:
Originally posted by danaeb
After all the bad news lately, this makes me smile - especially the part about the navy reburying them in a location under their jurisdiction so they can be guarded.

I can just imagine all the jockeying for who's the best babysitter among the Navy, PROFEPA and SEMARNAT.:yes:




My money is on the navy.....they have guns....:lol:


Maybe turtles are smarter than we think!:lol:

fdt - 9-30-2008 at 10:17 PM

ecomujeres:
Please, without the intention of offending sentiments but, if people would not poach or would have never poached turtle eggs, would the species (sea turtle) still be in danger?
I am talking eggs only!

gnukid - 9-30-2008 at 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by fdt
Quote:
Originally posted by woody in ob
tragic for the turtles because the paper just told EVERYONE where to get turtles/eggs. just in case your balls need to be pumped up with an aphrodisiac. small balls, small minds!


I know of people eating turtle eggs in mainland México but I've not known people in Baja California or Baja California Sur that eat the eggs.

[Edited on 10-1-2008 by fdt]


Are you crazy? They eat them all the time? The ol timers say, "we're gonna save so many and they are going to taste so good." Its one sentence. But we do not have to change the mindset of seniors. We can focus on the youth.

gnukid - 9-30-2008 at 10:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody in ob
this is either tragic or comedic...

tragic for the turtles because the paper just told EVERYONE where to get turtles/eggs. just in case your balls need to be pumped up with an aphrodisiac. small balls, small minds!

comedic because the turtles are just giving up, praying for an anchor baby and saying, "if i make it in the big city, i can make it anywhere!" :no:



These eggs will be protected. They will not be stolen. We have faith in our Navals. And they might come back in a few years as they have, that's why they're here they've been here before.

[Edited on 10-1-2008 by gnukid]

woody with a view - 10-1-2008 at 06:18 AM

that sure would be cool.

ecomujeres - 10-1-2008 at 12:54 PM

fdt: That's a good question.

Poaching of eggs is only one of the problems that is endangering turtles. The issue is that they are being hit from all sides: poaching of eggs, poaching of live animals, loss of habitat to beach development, damage to viable nests from ATV's on beaches, accidental/incidental by-catch in fishing nets... Add that to their slow rate of maturity (9-30 years depending on species) and the resulting inability to keep up with the loss of their population. It's not just one thing, it's everything.

To answer more specifically: "if we as people had never taken eggs in the first place, would they still be endangered?" If all else remained the same in our activities (fishing, ATV's, etc mentioned above) I suspect that they would still be endangered because the loss of mature animals has a direct impact on the number of eggs laid. No females to lay eggs, no turtles eggs to poach.

fdt - 10-1-2008 at 05:15 PM

Gracias ecomujeres.

fishbuck - 10-1-2008 at 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by morgaine7
I find it very promising that the folks who found them contacted the appropriate authorities. That part of the Malecon gets a lot of foot traffic, and those eggs probably wouldn't have lasted long there. It's refreshing to know that they'll be protected and monitored.

Kate


I didn't turn them all in. I saved a few for breakfest!:cool:

fdt - 10-15-2008 at 06:20 AM

Hatchlings released.:bounce:


http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n892216.htm


redmesa - 10-15-2008 at 06:29 AM

Wonderful! Thanks for the update. There are bright spots in this human era on the earth.