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1930 Baja California Map

David K - 11-12-2008 at 08:58 PM

This is a very detailed map that was produced in San Diego in 1930...









[Edited on 11-13-2008 by David K]

A game?

fdt - 11-13-2008 at 07:12 AM

As David K does, lets see if you can spot the other Tijuana on this map. According to another legend the word Tijuana comes from a place similar in aspect of terrain (I've seen pictures) that is located in Baja California Sur and is also named Tijuana.
You can read about this place under Etymology here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana

Hook - 11-13-2008 at 07:18 AM

David, these maps are very enjoyable to see, at least for me. Thank you for taking the time to upload them here.

You really are an incredible source of information on Baja. :wow:

David K - 11-13-2008 at 08:34 AM

Thank you Hook, I appreciate that from you...

fdt - 11-13-2008 at 08:38 AM

David? Have you found the other Tijuana?

fdt - 11-13-2008 at 04:34 PM

Anyone find the other Tijuana?

fdt - 11-13-2008 at 04:49 PM

Still there today.

bajalou - 11-13-2008 at 04:55 PM

I see it on 2 of the map posts.

David K - 11-13-2008 at 05:00 PM

Baja Sur's 'Tijuana' from space: Rancho Tijuana

fdt - 11-13-2008 at 05:09 PM

That's it.

Close Up Cape Region 1930

David K - 11-13-2008 at 05:12 PM

That area is so 'busy', it is hard to make out the places... so here is a zoom in:


k-rico - 11-13-2008 at 05:20 PM

Looks like if you started in TJ the furthest south you could get on some sort of road is San Quintin. Is that right?

David K - 11-13-2008 at 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico
Looks like if you started in TJ the furthest south you could get on some sort of road is San Quintin. Is that right?


There were wagon roads made for the many mines... including El Marmol... Automobiles were pretty rare before WWII... I do have a photo of the first auto to drive the peninsula (about 1928) and it wasn't easy!

The remote section was El Rosario to San Ignacio...

Skipjack Joe - 11-14-2008 at 07:33 AM

This map of baja seems advanced for it's time, except for the roads.

k-rico - 11-14-2008 at 07:47 AM

If you look at the enlargement of the southern most map and go north out of Todos Santos you'll see an area where "fresh water" is marked. That's interesting. Is there any development going on along the coast that far north of TS?

David K - 11-14-2008 at 08:12 AM

On the edge of that image is Rancho La Aguja... that is where Nomad 'Rob' is... Other small places survived the 78 years since that map was made! Los Inocentes is also on the Baja Almanac as it was in 1930...

David K - 6-15-2009 at 10:24 PM

I would be happy to post a close up of any area of Baja that is of interst to you from this 1930 map or any of the other old maps I have posted on this forum in the past!


Here is the Pacific coast from Punta Blanco to Laguna Guerrero Negro (Black Warrior Lagoon), for example:


Mulegena - 6-15-2009 at 11:23 PM

The camraderie here on this Thread shows the Best that Baja Nomad can be (o geez, i sound like a marine recruiter) but you know what I mean, right?

This is history and IT IS FUN!

smlslikfish - 6-25-2009 at 04:18 PM

where did you find this map? I love old maps!;D;):yes:

smlslikfish - 6-25-2009 at 04:19 PM

can you blow up the la costilla area page?

David K - 8-11-2009 at 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by smlslikfish
can you blow up the la costilla area page?


Sure! I presume you meant the camp near Puertecitos? Here is that area ... 'Gull Rock I.' is Isla El Huerfanito and Puertecitos is between Punta San Fermin and Red Bluff.

Sorry I didn't see this request until today! (u2u me if I don't reply to any map request!)


BajaNuts - 8-11-2009 at 01:35 PM

I found both Tijuanas-
Here's another double-

Where's the other La Ventana?

fdt - 8-11-2009 at 01:58 PM

North of San Felipe by the Delta.

BajaNuts - 8-11-2009 at 02:12 PM

BINGO!

This is an incredibly detailed map, molybdenum mines, I even found a saddle factory!

woody with a view - 8-11-2009 at 06:25 PM

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molybdenum mines


sorry for the hijack, jack!

where do you see that. is there a spanish word for molybdenum? i only ask because i own stock in a company (tc) that mines it... averaged in at $10.03

Crusoe - 8-11-2009 at 08:30 PM

Just think of the amount of work and time it took someone or some people on burrows to compile all the information for this map printing and publication. Can you tell us David who published this map and where you dug it up. It is truly a mindbogeling effort for 1930s. Very impressive. Are copys available? Thanx ++C++

David K - 8-12-2009 at 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Crusoe
Just think of the amount of work and time it took someone or some people on burrows to compile all the information for this map printing and publication. Can you tell us David who published this map and where you dug it up. It is truly a mindbogeling effort for 1930s. Very impressive. Are copys available? Thanx ++C++


I bought this reprint in San Diego... I think at the Scripps Aquarium giftshop...?

I am always looking in bookstores and places for Baja maps and books... I have been doing that for 40 years!... Just been saving them... and getting duplicates sometimes (I donated several to the 'future' El Rosario Baja Library at Baja Cactus).

Here is the details of this map, which includes most of Sonora, too.


Crusoe - 8-12-2009 at 09:15 AM

Thanks again David.....++C++

David K - 8-12-2009 at 09:22 AM

Anything I can do to assist my Baja amigos in their adventure seeking is my pleasure!

BajaNuts - 8-12-2009 at 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
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molybdenum mines


sorry for the hijack, jack!

where do you see that. is there a spanish word for molybdenum? i only ask because i own stock in a company (tc) that mines it... averaged in at $10.03


In the close up of the Cabo region. look for Palmas Bay, just to the left of that is Buena Vista, 2 words below that is "gold-molybdenum"

1930 San Ignacio Area (inc. Abreojos, San Juanico)

David K - 12-6-2009 at 09:28 AM


David K - 9-14-2010 at 07:09 PM

Any other parts of 1930 Baja that you would like to see a close up of, just let me know!

norte - 1-23-2012 at 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Bump!


WHY?

More 1930 Baja

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:35 PM

San Felipe and south about 50 miles:


norte - 1-23-2012 at 03:38 PM

I see. Why not let them know where to search?

San Quintin Area, 1930

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:39 PM


HUERFANITO (GULL) to GONZAGA 1930, + EL TULE ONYX (EL MARMOL)

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:43 PM



[Edited on 1-23-2012 by David K]

Around Laguna Chapala, 1930

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:46 PM



Agua Leon would be an intersting ghost town to find... north of Punta Prieta, and west into the hills. It is written about in the book 'Long Walk to Mulege'.

norte - 1-23-2012 at 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by norte
I see. Why not let them know where to search?


Because this way, you get to post more off topic conversations questioning my Baja posts! :lol:


I see. Very informative and cordial, as usual.

Santa Rosalia to Mulege 1930

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:48 PM


David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:51 PM

Anyway, you can't search what hasn't been posted before... and I am posting many close up maps that have not been on Nomad yet (I don't think)... but big deal... it sure beats the political crap or hearing how dangerous Rosarito is to 'American'... IMO.

Rio Hardy area, Pole Line Road area north of San Felipe

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:54 PM


L.A. Bay Region, 1930

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:56 PM


Concepcion Bay Region, 1930

David K - 1-23-2012 at 03:59 PM


ligui - 1-23-2012 at 04:07 PM

Can't say thanks enough David ! I love old maps of baja and can't get enough of them .

Ligui

David K - 1-23-2012 at 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by ligui
Can't say thanks enough David ! I love old maps of baja and can't get enough of them .

Ligui


De Nada... I have it and I think it is best to share it... it has no value if only I can enjoy it, in my opinion. Sort of like a beautiful place in Baja... such a waste if it is only enjoyed by you for a couple days a year!

Let me know if there is anything in my library or files you would like see again or closer or whatever... el gusto es mio.

David K - 2-28-2015 at 01:14 PM

Just got an email asking about this map... for those who enjoy such things or have not yet seen it.

4x4abc - 2-28-2015 at 05:08 PM

I hate you David! Losing hours and hours staring at this old chit. Guess, the only clear view is into the past. And please - make me hat you more. More maps, pics etc

David K - 2-28-2015 at 05:11 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
I hate you David! Losing hours and hours staring at this old chit. Guess, the only clear view is into the past. And please - make me hat you more. More maps, pics etc


Isn't Baja a GREAT place... a time machine, and these maps are windows to the past!

StuckSucks - 2-28-2015 at 05:49 PM

Very cool to see. In the northern-most map, a place name I haven't heard for a while: Tres Pozos. Many years ago, I bought Pemex there from a gravity-fed gas pump. And mystery-meat tacos which were excellent.

Original 1930's Baja Map

kasnoff - 7-5-2015 at 06:21 AM

Hello,

I was doing some research for an older friend of mine on some of his collectables and came across this site. I have what I believe to be an original 1930 Lower California map. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I found a reference to it in a university library as to being "RARE". Also looking to establish value if possible. Thank you in advance. I hope this kind of inquiry does not violate the terms of this site.

Tim

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David K - 7-5-2015 at 08:58 AM

Hi Tim,
I bought one at the Scripp's Aquarium gift store in La Jolla many years ago... so many copies have been printed of it for sale... so, I don't think it has a lot of special economic value. The one in your photo appears to have been marked on with a highlight pen as well?
It is a cool map as it seems to be factual, and so full of data (ranches, mines, etc.) considering how old it is. So to Baja history buffs, it is very valuable. I laminated mine to preserve it.
David