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MAPS showing San Quintin, over the years

David K - 11-30-2008 at 11:32 PM

1888...




1905 Mines & Roads...




1919...




1919 Goldbaum Map...




1927...




1930...




1941...




1962...




Please let me know if there is an area of Baja you would like to see on these old maps, up close!

BajaGringo - 12-1-2008 at 02:41 PM

Looking on one of the maps I see they labeled the cove in front of San Martin island as "Hassler Cove". Will do some investigating on that...

These are Ggeat David - thanks!!!

David K - 12-1-2008 at 03:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo
Looking on one of the maps I see they labeled the cove in front of San Martin island as "Hassler Cove". Will do some investigating on that...

These are Ggeat David - thanks!!!


Here's some more on Hassler Cove:




BajaGringo - 12-1-2008 at 04:06 PM

David, do you have more on the island and especially more of the second map? It sits right in front of where I am building...

David K - 12-1-2008 at 04:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo
David, do you have more on the island and especially more of the second map? It sits right in front of where I am building...


That is pretty much all of that map... just a tiny bit was cut off on the left... The edge of the map is just left of the word Picacho (San Martin), and you can see that only Pic of Picacho are missing.

The above two images are from the 1971 Baja Sea Guide.

More on Isla San Martin can be found in 'The Baja Adventure Book' by Walt Peterson... still sold with new reprints in the bookstores or here on Baja Nomad Tienda, etc.

TMW - 12-1-2008 at 07:10 PM

Where was the Hamilton Ranch hotel? From the 1941 map it looks like it was where hwy1 is today west of Santo Domingo. But either on here or in one of the books I was reading there was a story about some auther who was there recently and it was more of an abandoned place not near the hwy.

BajaGringo - 12-1-2008 at 07:20 PM

I took a road trip on the old road recently with a local who grew up in the area. He told me that there was a stop called Hamilton Ranch along the coast. It had a restaurant, rooms for overnight guests and gas. The Hamilton Ranch itself is still in operation several miles to the east of the old stop and about a mile east of the current paved highway 1.

Today very little remains at all of the old stop.

If you look at the 1927 and 1941 maps you will see that the road there seems to have been re-routed east...



[Edited on 12-2-2008 by BajaGringo]

San QuEntin

TonyC - 12-3-2008 at 07:54 AM

Thank you David. Very cool maps. 1888, and 1927 San Quintin spelled with a E was correct. :rolleyes:

[Edited on 12-3-2008 by TonyC]

David K - 12-3-2008 at 10:00 AM

Colnett is also the correct spelling of the Englishman the cape was named after... but the Mexicans liked their version COLONET better!:yes::lol:

TW, the Hamilton Guest Ranch and airstrip is east of the highway near the hills... When you drive along Arroyo Santo Domingo to see the mission, the Hamilton Ranch (HR) can be seen on the south side if the big arroyo.

I think showing it close to the ocean is an error... The Hamilton Ranch was a hide-a-way for the Hollywood stars to have their parties far from the press's cameras... Erle Stanley Gardner used it as a stop over often in the 60's.

BajaGringo - 12-3-2008 at 10:38 AM

David - I was told by those who grew up in the area that the coastal stop was referred to as Hamilton Ranch. At one time there was a bus that made the trip down the coast and that is where you would get off if you were heading out to the ranch...

David K - 12-3-2008 at 10:50 AM

The 'Hamilton Ranch Bus Stop'... sure that sounds about right.

Have you seen the remains of the Hamilton Ranch motel cabins... big trees over them I recall from photos? Gardner really liked it there... the famous Hattie Hamilton Ranch, he called it...operated by Margo Cesena (in 1966).

BajaGringo - 12-3-2008 at 12:02 PM

I haven't made it over to check those out yet David but will our next time. I will be going up the road to check out the old mission and as I recall that road runs right next to the old ranch...

BajaGeoff - 12-3-2008 at 12:23 PM

Great stuff David! Always fun to see old maps and how they evolve over the years

David K - 12-3-2008 at 05:03 PM

Thanks Geoff!

BajaGringo, here's the 1962 map close up... The Hamilton Ranch was 3 miles from the main road, east of Colonia Guerrero, near the edge of the Santo Domingo riverbed.


David K - 12-3-2008 at 05:06 PM

Hamilton Ranch in one of these tree areas:

Hamilton Ranch area

Gaucho - 12-8-2008 at 06:54 PM

Hi David,
Can you show an area of the lower east cape say from Los Frailles to Los Zacatitos?
Thanks

David K - 12-9-2008 at 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Gaucho
Hi David,
Can you show an area of the lower east cape say from Los Frailles to Los Zacatitos?
Thanks


Be happy to... look for it soon/ now as a new thread (post) in this forum!

HERE THEY ARE: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=35763

[Edited on 12-10-2008 by David K]

BajaGringo - 12-9-2008 at 09:50 AM

Curiosity got the best of me and I made a trip out to see San Martin Island. Here is view of the mainland west of San Quintin, taken from the island. The area where we are building is located just to the right/south of the cantiles, below the largest volcano/cinder cone.


Gaucho - 12-9-2008 at 10:48 AM

BajaGringo,

What a great spot to build. How is the diving around there? It looks like the vis around San Martin is pretty good.

BajaGringo - 12-9-2008 at 11:02 AM

The visibility is incredible. On the east side of the island you can see every detail of the ocean floor below at 20' like it was your backyard pool. I am taking my goggles and fins next time...

David K - 12-9-2008 at 03:51 PM

More photos please!

By the way, per The Baja Adventure Book, there are LAVA TUBES (long caves) on the island to explore!

BajaGringo - 12-9-2008 at 06:33 PM

I did see a few David but will save those for future trips. Perhaps I should just start another thread on the island itself and post some more photos there. Be gone for a few days and will post them when I return...

David K - 12-9-2008 at 07:40 PM

Sounds like a plan Stan!:light: