BajaNomad - Frida Kahlo killed my plant!

Frida Kahlo killed my plant!

Pompano - 12-1-2008 at 09:44 AM

After some recent rains..and with absolutely no help from moi..this unidentified-by-me plant started growing out of one of my patio beer cap pots.

What is it?

[Edited on 12-3-2008 by Pompano]

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stimbo - 12-1-2008 at 08:46 PM

What have you been drinkin'?

BajaHawk - 12-2-2008 at 08:55 AM

Could it be a Pacifico Tree - imagine that!

I will look at some of my plant ID books and get back to you.

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 09:28 AM

Noche Buena, comes out around Christmas

Iflyfish

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 10:00 AM

Iff, if that is a noche buena then I'm the reincarnation of Frida Kahlo :dudette:

Pompano - 12-2-2008 at 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by Iflyfish
Noche Buena, comes out around Christmas

Iflyfish

Thanks for the plant ID, Iflyfish...and Carmen just told me she planted it for me...nice touch for the coming Christmas.

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 10:05 AM

But.... but....but....

A noche buena is a pointsettia!

And cool though she was, I'm no Frida!!!!! :wow:

Pompano - 12-2-2008 at 10:05 AM

Well...now I am cornfused...what did she plant?

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Pompano
Well...now I am cornfused...what did she plant?

Herself

bajajudy - 12-2-2008 at 10:20 AM

It looks like a weed that we get that is very invasive. It will get a bright orange sack that will burst open with 100's of seeds inside. If that is what it is, it was probably in the soil.

Paula, let me ask a question then....

Pompano - 12-2-2008 at 10:20 AM

Ummm.....you're supposed to water it, right?

bajajudy - 12-2-2008 at 10:23 AM

Roger
You did the right thing!

longlegsinlapaz - 12-2-2008 at 10:27 AM

If you ever want to verify Judy's accuracy on the number of seeds it produces, next time use water, rather than Round-Up! :rolleyes:

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 10:41 AM

Don't water it Roger, Judy knows her plants!

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 12:33 PM

I was kidding there amigo. I have no idea. I would say it is a Dead Plant now though and would probably be right. I would advise against smoking it. Death sure comes quickly in the Baja.

Iflyfish

Skipjack Joe - 12-2-2008 at 12:35 PM

Is that Diego Rivera she's holding?

That's a very strange woman.

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 01:08 PM

It looks like Diego to me. I think she's a great artist, a unique person who suffered a lot in her short life. I wonder how her life might have been had the bus accident not occurred, and had she not experienced so much life-long pain as a result.

It's dead, then? Hmmm...

Pompano - 12-2-2008 at 01:14 PM

..Cedric may have 'watered' it.

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Paula - 12-2-2008 at 01:40 PM

And now back to the really strange painting...

On second thought I think that may be the child that she and Diego lost. She wanted a child badly, but couldn't carry a baby to term. It makes more sense that she is holding Diego's lost son in this painting, and not Diego.

My hijack is finished now Roger, Thank you for the use of your thread :biggrin:

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 02:04 PM

Paula

This amazing painting was completed in 1949 and is entitled The Love Embrace of the Universe, the Earth (Mexico), Myself, Diego and Senor Xolotl.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/c0580.html

Iflyfish

Pompano - 12-2-2008 at 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by Paula
And now back to the really strange painting...

On second thought I think that may be the child that she and Diego lost. She wanted a child badly, but couldn't carry a baby to term. It makes more sense that she is holding Diego's lost son in this painting, and not Diego.

My hijack is finished now Roger, Thank you for the use of your thread :biggrin:

No...I think we will let Iflyfish continue his hijack...I got bored anyway.

Actually, Paula, you should both continue...more interesting than a weed.

and more to the point, I need to get some fishing tackle ready for manana!

[Edited on 12-2-2008 by Pompano]

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 02:56 PM

Pomp and circumstances

No more here, just wanted to share the info on the painting by this wonderful Mexican artist.

There are plants in the picture too.....ok, it's a stretch

Iflyfish

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 03:55 PM

That was an interesting link, Iflyfish. I had found the image on Google, and didn't take time to study it much. It is one that I don't remember seeing before, and I thought I must have seen most of her paintings by now, as I've read much about her. And yes, the planting of herself was a stretch-- just an off the cuff reply to a tongue in cheek question.

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 05:01 PM

Paula

Your original observation regarding Diego/baby/still births are very much a part of her world, a very tortured world in which her body fails her and she is forced to focus her attention on her tortured interior drama. Fascinating images here, god/ess/man/universe/earth/life/death/rebirth/the third eye of consciousness on Diego's head, her ongoing preoccupation. Artists can offer us a unique insight into our deepest fantacies/fears/hopes/dreams and Kahlo lived there.

Thanks for posting this fascinating image, one of many she produced. Thanks to Pompano for sanctioning further discussion. His plant/
dead plant/ live puppy/ beer cap recepticle has produced some rather interesting speculation on it's own right. Who planted the seed? Why did the plant suicide? Why is that puppy looking so guilty? Am I projecting guilt on the puppy.....it's endless.

Iflyfish

elizabeth - 12-2-2008 at 05:05 PM

Just saw this thread or I would have jumped in to help hijack it a lot earlier!!! Maybe we should have a Frida Kahlo thread! Paula, I think her polio was as much formative as the bus accident. There is another painting called "Roots (The Pedregal)" that actually shows plants growing through her body...and, how about tying it back in with this...the vine looks a lot like Pompano's original photo!

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 05:09 PM

Here is a link to her work so we can see which paintings you are discussing.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html

Iflyfish

elizabeth - 12-2-2008 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Iflyfish

Why did the plant suicide? Why is that puppy looking so guilty? Am I projecting guilt on the puppy.....it's endless.

Iflyfish

Another point of view

Skipjack Joe - 12-2-2008 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
A bus accident? I thought she was run over by a truck. I havn't read much at all about her. My opinion of any artist is formed by their art alone and, even a Rorschach ink blot could be considered art if the clinical application were kept out of it. They lose the artful interpretation when their purpose is known.
I see Kahlo in the same light. If empathy for her crumpled condition is necessary to understand her work, then her work becomes a clinical statement. A testimony to her well-being. A chart hanging on the end of a hospital bed. Seeing her art without reading the program is, for me, uninspiring and uncomfortable. Almost assaultive. I ask myself why I was subjected to this.
I think she was born too early to fully realize her potential. She would have gone a long way airbrushing motorcycle gas tanks.

Just my opinion, of course.

Where is Dennis anyway? I miss that guy. At times he would come up with zingers like this and you realized just how sharp he really is.

elizabeth - 12-2-2008 at 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Iflyfish
Here is a link to her work so we can see which paintings you are discussing.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html

Iflyfish

Thanks for the link...I just looked at it and was astonished at the price that Sothebys got...$5,616,000. Apparently a record.

ELINVESTIG8R - 12-2-2008 at 05:48 PM

Let's really hijack this and add these guys. I think one or both went outside and relieved their bladders into the pot.

bacquito - 12-2-2008 at 05:54 PM

cunfuzin' and amuzin'

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 05:57 PM

Judging from the speed of the demise I would assume both. Now that is even more painful than an entire gallery of Kahlo!

Iflyfish

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 05:59 PM

Didn't realize Dennis was an art critic....missed that...and him...where are you when we need you Dennis?

Iflyfish

Paula - 12-2-2008 at 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by elizabeth

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Originally posted by Iflyfish

Why did the plant suicide? Why is that puppy looking so guilty? Am I projecting guilt on the puppy.....it's endless.

Iflyfish

It may not have been suicide...it might have been murder...hence, guilty looking puppy...or maybe just negligence, but was it Pompano's negligence, or someone else's...there might be a clue in the dead plant photo, or even a Kahlo painting...does Paula know more than she's saying?

Elizabeth, while I generally know less than I am saying, I'm sure that innocent little puppy meant no harm. Pedregal would have been the perfect image here, but I was hurrying and chose impulsively. And the polio was certainly the more painful thing.

Igor, you are very good at digging up the past! Dennis really p#$$ed me off in that post, bless his heart. I miss his posts too. Maybe Bajabound knows where he's been?

Roger, Have a great day fishing!

Oh, hell, you're right, it's endless.

Edit: I usually think outside the box-- so how did I post inside the box?

[Edited on 12-3-2008 by Paula]

Udo - 12-2-2008 at 07:48 PM

Are we still on hijacking mode? :biggrin:

Last month I purchased Frieda's cookbook on Amazon. What a work of art :bounce:

The recipes are old country Mexico (I originally bought it when her name was mentioned about the recipe of the red-white-green rice on another Nomad thread).
The rest of the recipes are also unbelievable!

Iflyfish - 12-2-2008 at 08:14 PM

Unbelievable, like this thread, but did they taste good or just make you feel wretched? Did you know she had a fling with Trotsky before he got a splitting head acke?

Iflyfish

Skipjack Joe - 12-2-2008 at 08:57 PM

Wow, this has become a strange thread between the time I got on BART to the time I got home. ... and I feel partly responsible.

For the sake of completeness, I find Frida fascinating as a person but her 'art' does nothing for me. I will stop at that because many of the people I like on this board have expressed so much admiration for it.

P.S. I also believe that any artist who invokes strong feelings of disagreement in people often has something important to say.

Mulegena - 12-3-2008 at 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by Iflyfish
Here is a link to her work so we can see which paintings you are discussing.

http://www.fridakahlofans.com/mainmenu.html

Iflyfish

This is a fun and timely hijack. Just this afternoon I treated myself to a print of her "Naturaleza Muerta de Loro y Fruta" "Still Life of Parrot and Fruit". You can see it on page 6 of Gallery of Paintings by Title. Enjoy her happier works.

Iflyfish - 12-3-2008 at 09:55 AM

Mulegena

Nice, beautiful colors and wonderful the way she opens up the fruit in visually interesting ways. The missing seeds get me thinking about the parrot and the seeds. The parrot looks innocent enough....but??

I wonder if others would share their favorite Kahlo painting with us and talk about why that one moved you.

I like Moses
http://www.fridakahlofans.com/c0490x.html
for its complexity and beauty. It says so much about the process of life from its conception through death and the myriad possibilities of how we can manifest life. The painting is both awe inspiring and disturbing, like life. She is clearly grounded and focused on the female anatomy as the source of life and birth, the juxtaposition of the anatomical with the political is really remarkable to me. The miracle of life within both physical and spiritual. It is remarkable to me how she allows her deepest fantasies and images to emerge through her very autobiographical work. I think SkipJack got it right, if it is powerful enough to evoke strong feelings in us then it is great art.

Iflyfish

Iflyfish - 12-3-2008 at 09:57 AM

Frida Kahlo killed my plant, I laughed out loud and slapped my thighs. Good one!

Iflyfish

Art critic

Dave - 12-3-2008 at 01:31 PM

I showed the cat the Kahlo picture.

This thread could drive one batty

Sharksbaja - 12-3-2008 at 02:46 PM

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Don Alley - 12-3-2008 at 04:14 PM

The plant looks to me like a variety of wild geranium that grows around here in moist areas (if anyone is still interested). Was it sticky?

And if you wonder how an inquiry about a plant ends up in Frida Kahlo-land, well, welcome to my world. :lol:

Paula - 12-3-2008 at 04:32 PM

I like your idea of posting favorite paintings, Iflyfish. But I can't seem to narrow it down. I like her surrealistic work, but I think the self-portraits are so interesting. I think this one, painted in 1933, is beautiful. She appears softer here, and her bold necklace is very expressive.

Pompano - 12-3-2008 at 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Don Alley
The plant looks to me like a variety of wild geranium that grows around here in moist areas (if anyone is still interested). Was it sticky?

And if you wonder how an inquiry about a plant ends up in Frida Kahlo-land, well, welcome to my world. :lol:

I feel your angst, Don.

Whatever that plant was/is it seems to have affected our poodle...who ate a seed or two...and now bears a striking resemblance to Frida Kahlo...go figure.

Paula - 12-3-2008 at 04:48 PM

AHEM...

Here is another of Frida's portraits, this time of a frien's mother, painted in 1944

Skipjack Joe - 12-3-2008 at 04:48 PM

Excellent, Paula. There's a piercing, almost falcon-like look to those eyes.

Unfortunately there aren't enough works like this. Which is sad because there is so much ability here.

Regarding her surrealistic work - Dave's cat had it right.

p.s. that for self portrait, 1933.

[Edited on 12-3-2008 by Skipjack Joe]

Paula - 12-3-2008 at 04:55 PM

One more...

Viva la Vida was finished just 8 days before her death. Night sky is encroaching upper left.

And now it's time to cook dinner. Anyone know how to cook a sticky geranium?

Pompano - 12-3-2008 at 05:11 PM

Paula said....."Anyone know how to cook a sticky geranium?"

Paula, I pulled up those dried leaves and stems...and VIOLA...it was this surreal creation. Do I have to cook it or can it be eaten raw?

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Frida, darling, two words...

Dave - 12-3-2008 at 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by Paula

Hot wax

Skipjack Joe - 12-3-2008 at 05:23 PM

Paula, I just can't stop looking at that first portrait. It's amazing.

There's strength and vulnerability in that face. And it just so latin american. The head tilted slightly back with all the pride and dignity of that latin soul.

It's as though she's talking to me. Help, I'm freaking out. Gotta get away from those eyes. Poor Diego. She's haunting.

Paula - 12-3-2008 at 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by Paula

Hot wax

I wonder what 2 words Frida might say to you, Dave :dudette:

Paula - 12-3-2008 at 05:27 PM

Pompano

Whichever youdo, I'd advise sharing it with a few friends.

Pompano - 12-3-2008 at 05:35 PM

Haunting...and haunted. As if she were to emerge outside her world she would be caught like a deer in the headlights.

"I paint myself because I so often alone and because I am the subject I know best." Frida

Nothing I haven't heard before

Dave - 12-3-2008 at 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by Paula
I wonder what 2 words Frida might say to you, Dave :dudette:

Repeatedly. :rolleyes:

Iflyfish - 12-3-2008 at 09:37 PM

Pompano

Whoa! What a tubor! Now that is ART!

That is some geranium amigo.

Iflyfish

bajadave1 - 12-4-2008 at 04:14 AM

Pompano, you must need to hold lil Cedric over the pot!

Iflyfish - 12-4-2008 at 09:37 AM

Pomp

Now a chubacabra has hijacked this post, amazing what free association can do to a guy!

Iflyfish