I have been on the road to Santa Gertrudis from Hwy. 1 without going through El Arco. It leaves Hwy. 1 about 22 miles past (southeast) of the El Arco
jcn.
The dirt road distance is about the same but a better dirt road perhaps? The old El Arco highway is mostly broken and everyone drives the parallel
detours on either side.
The road I am talking about goes through Guillermo Prieto and there were signs for the mission along it.
shari - 12-4-2008 at 07:06 PM
not sure how it is after the big rain but usually even small cars go there so shouldn't be a problem...TMW - 12-4-2008 at 07:20 PM
David, I may be wrong, but I remember Pozo Aleman being on the north side of the road from your map above.DianaT - 12-4-2008 at 07:36 PM
Anyone been on either one of these roads recently and can give an estimate of time?BAJACAT - 12-4-2008 at 07:53 PM
Has any nomad ,pictures of this mission, it doesn't get the same attention as San Borja, maybe because of the 40 miles +/- from Mex 1, compare to 20
miles +/- for San BorjaDavid K - 12-4-2008 at 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by TW
David, I may be wrong, but I remember Pozo Aleman being on the north side of the road from your map above.
You drive right through Pozo Aleman (Germam Well) on the drive to San Francisquito from El Arco. Perhaps the black square should be on the north side
of the road to represent the old wooden building... but there is more to this old mining site.
[Edited on 12-5-2008 by David K]David K - 12-4-2008 at 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by BAJACAT
Has any nomad ,pictures of this mission, it doesn't get the same attention as San Borja, maybe because of the 40 miles +/- from Mex 1, compare to 20
miles +/- for San Borja
Originally posted by bajaamy
Thank you for the quick replies. Do you think it's a do-able spend-a-half-day trip from San Ignacio? Or is it more of an all day endeavor?
Amy
If you are coming north from San Ignacio, then you will definitly want to use the Guillermo Prieto short cut!
Sure, a half day but there is lots to photograph and you can even hike some of the El Camino Real! Before reaching the mission village, a sign points
the Camino Real where it climbs the hill to the left of the road, heading to San Borja. All of it is easy to see on http://wikimapia.org , from space!
So, some estimated times:
52 paved miles (1 hr.) and 40 dirt miles (1.5 hours) plus stops, photos... Then an hour at the mission (someone will come over and open it for you,
hopefully) and village perhaps. There are remains of other mission era work, such as the aquaduct system. That's 3.5 + the 2.5 hr. drive back to San
Ignacio = 6 hours.
I was only there very briefly once on New Years Eve, my BFG had a leak and I stuck a can of flat repair in it and had to drive right away for the leak
to get fixed!... We drove from San Ignacio to L.A. Bay for the big fiesta, got there before dark...wilderone - 12-5-2008 at 09:32 AM
This mission is regularly used for services. It was "remodeled" - but unfortunately, not to its historic design, so the interior now has little
semblance to the original structure. But the back room has some artifacts from the mission days. You'll pass a wonderful, extensive giant cordon
forest en route.bajajudy - 12-5-2008 at 01:14 PM
In that same area is Posa Aleman...one of the most interesting afternoons I have spent was there.
Edit to add
TW is right it is on the opposite side of the road
[Edited on 12-5-2008 by bajajudy]DianaT - 12-5-2008 at 01:18 PM
Thank you bajaamy for starting this thread. We want to make it out there this year.
Dianenorte - 12-5-2008 at 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by bajajudy
Edit to add
TW is right it is on the opposite side of the road
[Edited on 12-5-2008 by bajajudy]
BLASPHEMOUSDavid K - 12-6-2008 at 10:39 AM
Have not heard of any such thing Amy... I doubt it as it is not on any major highway or beach or anything that would keep it in business... there a a
couple of cattle ranches along the road into the mission village (Miraflores and Guadalupe)... that was it, last I saw or heard!
Be sure to let us know what you discover there!shari - 12-6-2008 at 01:54 PM
I wonder if our friend Keno has opened up his hacienda...he was expanding his family home there to make like an elder hostel...for the elders from
there, so they could be together and looked after and not have to move into GN...maybe he has opened up some of the rooms for visitors which would be
fabulous as they run fantastic operations...he is who opened the new restaurant in GN Santo Remedio....cant wait to hear about your trip in.David K - 12-6-2008 at 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by shari
I wonder if our friend Keno has opened up his hacienda...he was expanding his family home there to make like an elder hostel...for the elders from
there, so they could be together and looked after and not have to move into GN...maybe he has opened up some of the rooms for visitors which would be
fabulous as they run fantastic operations...he is who opened the new restaurant in GN Santo Remedio....cant wait to hear about your trip in.
Just so we're clear, you are talking about Santa Gertrudis village (by the mission, east of El Arco)?
Yes, that would be a cool place to have a B&B or rooms... Great off roading from there on the El Camino Real via motorbikes, etc.David K - 12-6-2008 at 05:28 PM
Right... I know where you are talking about, Amy... thanks.
It is Shari I am asking, because she didn't say 'Santa Gertrudis', but mentioned Guerrero Negro in her reply: "he is who opened the new restaurant in
GN Santo Remedio...."
Why would he open a retaurant in a town so many hours away from his B&B...?shari - 12-6-2008 at 05:39 PM
well, if it is a modern place, it probably isnt Keno's as his place is an old hacienda type place...he lives in both places Gn and Sta.Gertrudis.David K - 12-6-2008 at 05:47 PM
Shari... so there IS a B&B or at least lodging in Santa Gertrudis?
The Dead Zone
TMW - 12-7-2008 at 11:14 AM
A few years back in late May my two brothers and I went to the Mission Santa Gertrudis. Coming back out it was getting dark so when we got to the
Miraflores jct we turned left down a little used road. About a half mile or so we pulled into a wide flat area and setup camp. At first we never
noticed anything unusual about the place since we were busy building a fire and getting the cots setup and getting dinner ready. While relaxing around
the fire we started noticing something very odd. No wind, no bugs, no nothing. It was dead silent, nothing moving anywhere. The sky was clear. It was
that way all night and the next morning. The next morning we saw no tracks of any animal or bugs on the ground in the area. After breakfast we packed
up and left. We saw no birds, it was like we were in a dead zone. Upon reaching the jct we stopped and got out of the truck and there were birds in
the air, bugs on the ground, butterflies etc. and there was a light wind. It was one weird place. Someday I want to go back there to see if it is
still a dead zone.David K - 12-7-2008 at 11:17 AM
Like the El Tomatal Mystery, maybe??? http://vivabaja.com/etwilderone - 12-11-2008 at 10:53 AM
"I've heard rumors that there's a hotel right near Mission Gertrudis, in an orchard. Can anyone tell me what the name is, or give contact info"
Just across the road from the mission are remnants (but still viable) of the mission vinyard, and I believe oranges and figs too - more or less an
orchard. Also you'll find a stream, and there is a hacienda - but I don't recall a hotel.David K - 12-11-2008 at 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by shari
well, if it is a modern place, it probably isnt Keno's as his place is an old hacienda type place...he lives in both places Gn and Sta.Gertrudis.
Shari, just to be clear... could you be specific as to where Keno has rooms for the night? Thank you!!
