David K - 12-21-2008 at 09:49 AM
As I go back through my collection of Baja books, and I find maps or photos I think would be interesting to share... I will!
From the book, 'The History of (Lower) California' by Don Francisco Javier Clavigero, S.J. is the 1888 map showing the peninsula and missions as they
were in 1768 when the Jesuits were expelled.
The book was first published in Venice in 1789 as 'Storria della California' and translated into English in 1932. I have a 1971 reprint of the 1932
edition.
Here is the entire map, followed by close ups...
Barry A. - 12-21-2008 at 10:16 AM
Now THOSE were the REAL "good ol days", for sure.
Explorers with such guts and drive that it is hard to imagine, for me anyway.
Thanks, David.
Barry
Udo - 12-21-2008 at 02:04 PM
It's still unbelievable that the cartographers from 200 years ago managed to put together such a reasonably accurate map!
Thanks again, David!
BAJACAT - 12-21-2008 at 02:47 PM
David I have the 1975, edition, pretty good book but it's hard to read..
It.s funny how Clavijero was never in the Peninsula and how wrote a book about it.
David K - 12-21-2008 at 02:54 PM
Venegas (of the 1757 map and writings) also never was there... What these men did was take the information and diaries of the Jesuits in Baja to write
their history books and maps.
Remember, the entire Jesuit Order was removed from the New World in 1768 by royal order of the king... so Clavigero (a Jesuit) could not have been
there after then.
Sharksbaja - 12-21-2008 at 02:54 PM
Good map art. A+
Thanks.
BAJACAT - 12-21-2008 at 03:05 PM
Yes David history is funny that way, just like Vizcaino, he never visit it the Peninsula and thy name a desert afther him...
BAJACAT - 12-21-2008 at 03:17 PM
DAVID MY BOOK HAS A DIFFERENT MAP
LA ANTIGUA BAJA
David K - 12-21-2008 at 03:20 PM
Just what book do you have José?
BAJACAT - 12-21-2008 at 03:24 PM
David is the 1975 edition.
That's a neat map...
Mexray - 12-21-2008 at 08:08 PM
...I guess the cameras didn't have as high a resolution in their satellites as we use now-a-days...
David K - 12-22-2008 at 11:33 AM
That's not the same book... looks like it contains writings from Palou too... Clavigero's name is also spelled with a 'j', in your edition?
Cover and inside...
David K - 12-22-2008 at 11:54 AM
This is a hardback with well over 400 pages of text, photos, footnotes...
toneart - 12-22-2008 at 12:00 PM
I too am impressed by the degree of accuracy, especially when drawn from Jesuit logs.
BAJACAT - 12-22-2008 at 06:52 PM
David my book is from LIBRERIA PORRUA, and has only 6 pix lol and is in spanish..
Francisco Javier Clavijero Echegaray (sometimes Francesco Saverio Clavigero) (September 9, 1731, Veracruz – April 2, 1787 Bologna, Italy), was a
Novohispano Jesuit teacher, scholar and historian. After the suppression of his order, he left New Spain and went to Italy, where he wrote a valuable
work on Mexico.
[Edited on 12-23-2008 by BAJACAT]