BajaNomad - Dog Attack---?????

Dog Attack---?????

thefishaholic - 1-12-2009 at 11:06 PM

Does anyone have experience with what to do about a dog (pitbull owned by gringos) in a RV Park in Baja, that has repeatedly attacked (jumpes over it's railing) other dogs on leash and has now bitten another gringo (me :fire

when I kept my pup (Chaco, on leash 50 ft from their palapa) from it?

If a gringo beats the crap outta another gringo do the cops care?

Mango - 1-13-2009 at 12:26 AM

IMO - Pit Bulls are like guns. There is nothing wrong with guns or Pit Bulls; but, I wouldn't just leave either in my front yard unattended. Something bad can happen. Both guns and Pit Bulls require care, attention, supervision, and are best locked away from the public. Both also help protect the home. Both have immense power and require responsibility on the owners part or somebody will get hurt.

Did you try talking with the the dog owner and telling him about what his dog has done? Tell him to chain him or get a better fence or you will be forced to protect yourself with your machete next time.

Or..

If the owner is an unresponsive a hole.. then..

Goto the store.. get a nice big steak....

Entice said dog with steak.. throw steak in car trunk..close trunk

Then go for a long drive into the desert. <cough><cough>

I like cats; but, I don't have a Siberian Tiger running free in the neighborhood either. If the owner does not take responsibility for his loose cannon, I see nothing wrong with taking care of the problem before some 8 year old gets his face eaten off.

Yeah.. what I said sounds brutal. But I've been bitten and attacked by pit bulls before. They can be sweet, sure.. I've also heard the same thing about Charles Manson. If I saw that a neighbor was leaving a loaded firearm on his front lawn, I'd make sure something was done about it.

LOSARIPES - 1-13-2009 at 03:57 AM

Get in the dog owner's face before the dog gets in yours... call the cops... get it documented... insist on action. Pit bulls are dangerous and can be mean.

Russ - 1-13-2009 at 06:14 AM

What's the RV Park owner/manager say? I'm sure that the neighbors feel as you do and if all or some of you confront the owner of the dog and the RV management and work with the ideas above you'll find a solution. We have had and do have problem owners here and eventually it all gets sorted out. Hope you problem dog owner is straightened out sooner rather than eventually. good luck ~~~ Russ

Mulegena - 1-13-2009 at 06:22 AM

Do this immediately: take photos of your injuries; write down what happened-- date, time, historical narrative; ask any witness to do the same; go to the doctor or clinic and establish a medical record of the injury; speak with your neighbor about the situation; speak with the board of directors of your community, if there is any; make a police report. Follow up with a formal complaint with the local police department if you feel it is warranted.

Jack Swords - 1-13-2009 at 07:32 AM

I don't know where this happened, but I was bitten in La Paz. I went to the police and then to the Health department. La Paz does have an animal control person and a truck. I filed a complaint, the truck came out to the residence and required that the dog be kept fenced in for a month. They assured me that after a month the dog would be gone. It was. My butt, where I was bitten, is the same height as a child's face. Most street dogs respond to bending down like you are going to pick up a rock by leaving you alone. We walk with our small dog and it seems to be a bait for loose dogs. Do contact authorities, in La Paz they were great!

longlegsinlapaz - 1-13-2009 at 08:22 AM

thefishaholic first of all, keep your bite wound open, unbandaged to let it drain naturally. Even after going to ER & getting prompt medical treatment, my bite wounds (pit bull) became infected. You should talk with the owner & demand to know if the animal that bit you is current on it's rabies shots & if you haven't had a tetanus shot shot in the past few years, you should get one.

Even if the owners are willing to do something to effectively restrain their dog, AND even if they're willing to reimburse your medical costs, I'd go to local authorities & file a complaint. The only problem with Mango's suggestion of a long drive out into the desert is that the animal remains alive to attack again....unless the (cough, cough) was covering up the sound of gunfire.

I'm an animal lover, but if the owners don't act responsibly & the local authorities don't/won't take care of the situation to your satisfaction....a vicious animal is the only animal I'd take matters into my own hands....I'd "season" the meat before tossing it over their fence.

I had a rescued beach dog from the time she was about 4-6 weeks old, who once she reach about 75 pounds would make unprovoked attacks on my smaller dog older dog. When working with her with didn't bring about the changes I'd hope for, I looked for a remote ranch with no children to give her to as an only dog, when that wasn't successful, I took her in & had her put to sleep. Mexican friends told me I had no right to end her life, but I felt that putting her down was more responsible then turning her loose to fend for herself & very likely attack other animals & people.

DENNIS - 1-13-2009 at 08:49 AM

First, shoot the dog. Then, shoot the owner.

vandenberg - 1-13-2009 at 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS
First, shoot the dog. Then, shoot the owner.

Rather drastic, but effective. :biggrin:

Run like hell afterwards.

Barry A. - 1-13-2009 at 09:03 AM

A pit bull running loose in our neighborhood kept barking furiously and threatenly at my neighbor as he worked in his yard--------after talking to the owner nothing changed--------my neighbor shot the dog the next time it happened.

End of story.

Welcome to Redding, CA.

Barry

BMG - 1-13-2009 at 09:58 AM

Has anyone had personal experience using one of the sprays used to repel dogs? I can see it discouraging a dog that's just bluffing, but how about a dog that is really focused on attacking and doesn't seem to be deterred as much by pain, such as a fighting dog?

longlegsinlapaz - 1-13-2009 at 10:11 AM

Don't know about the sprays specifically, but I DO know not to use an electric training collar on a dog that's mid-attack, it only makes them more vicious. So I'd tend to believe any outside irritant would have the same effect once they have their "prey". Unless it was like a can of wasp spray, something with a 15-20' range, I'm not sticking around to find out how they react....unless I just happen to have a baseball bat with me!

DENNIS - 1-13-2009 at 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by BMG
Has anyone had personal experience using one of the sprays used to repel dogs? I can see it discouraging a dog that's just bluffing, but how about a dog that is really focused on attacking and doesn't seem to be deterred as much by pain, such as a fighting dog?

They make sprays that will stop a bear so I would imagine they would stop a dog.
Pepper spray is readily available and Wasp spray is at your Home Depot etc..
The best spray available comes from the end of a shotgun.

All purpose repellent

Bronco - 1-13-2009 at 10:20 AM

I keep a can of Wasp spray in my home,car, motorhome and in my backpack when hiking with my dog.

Range 20-25', trust me it works very well!!!!!!!!!!!

Iflyfish - 1-13-2009 at 10:38 AM

Ditto on Wasp Spray.

I carry a hand held high pitched sound device that distracts dogs when they start to escalate their barking. The closest you can get to the first bark the better. It works if I stay at it and make the noice each and every time the dog starts to bark. It seems to confuse and defuse their escalation. These are available online for about twenty bucks.

Iflyfish

Barry A. - 1-13-2009 at 10:58 AM

"wasp spray" seems like a horrible way to go-------it is incredibly painful, and is a poison and could kill the animal rendering a painful slow death, or blindness.

Shooting the dog is much more humane, it seems to me. (???)

We carry Pepper spray, and it seems to work well.

Barry

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 11:04 AM

Pepper Spray is the way to go. Can even be used on the offending dogs owner when they come over to complain...

:lol:

Woooosh - 1-13-2009 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
First, shoot the dog. Then, shoot the owner.

Yup. Bad dogs have bad dog owers.

The only way to get a pit bull to release it's grip is to stick a finger up it's poop chute. I know it sounds gross- but if you're little dog is init's mouthand being devoured - you'd do anything.

After that- A pice of chicken with an injection of anti-freeze should do the trick and is the Mexican method. No more bad pit bull. If the dog shares the chicken with it's owner- even better--- saves two bullets.

Woooosh - 1-13-2009 at 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mulegena
Do this immediately: take photos of your injuries; write down what happened-- date, time, historical narrative; ask any witness to do the same; go to the doctor or clinic and establish a medical record of the injury; speak with your neighbor about the situation; speak with the board of directors of your community, if there is any; make a police report. Follow up with a formal complaint with the local police department if you feel it is warranted.

My sister in law had her leg ripped open by a bad dog while walking around the block near our house. She went to the doctor and then took the bill to the people and they paid it. They didn't do anythng about the dog though- a policeman owns it.

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 12:34 PM

Reading your suggestion on the "finger up the butt" technique reminded me of a slightly different approach I saw used years ago when living in Argentina. There is a breed there called "dogo" (pronounced "dough-go") and one of these dogos had his terrier on the ground in a death grip. My neighbor just reached back, grabbed the dog by the gonads, giving them a hard, quick squeeze, twist and pull. The dogo immediately released his terrier and seemed to have a particularly difficult time putting any weight on his back legs after that. However he did seem to be still rather ticked off...

Woooosh - 1-13-2009 at 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Reading your suggestion on the "finger up the butt" technique reminded me of a slightly different approach I saw used years ago when living in Argentina. There is a breed there called "dogo" (pronounced "dough-go") and one of these dogos had his terrier on the ground in a death grip. My neighbor just reached back, grabbed the dog by the gonads, giving them a hard, quick squeeze, twist and pull. The dogo immediately released his terrier and seemed to have a particularly difficult time putting any weight on his back legs after that. However he did seem to be still rather ticked off...

That's too funny. When you really love your dog or child- you will do anything to get it out of the mouth of a pit bull. Their mouths physically lock shut- and the finger (and I'll bet your gonad suggestions) will work. That doesn't solve the problem- it just ends the current situation until the dog does it again.

I do have some people wave their walking sticks at my dogs sometimes on our morning beach walks. Nothing attracts a lab more than someone waving a stick near the water! They think the dog wants to attack- the dog is hoping for a water-fetch session! Totally different perspectives.

I did physically take a stick out of a ladies hand once who struck my dog with it. I said "gracias" and we used it to play fetch with- she was stunned. I didn't even look back.

I wasn't as nice to a man who waved a golf club at my dog. I told him exactly where I was going to put that club if he didn't have a golf ball with him. I'm not always as nice as I'd like to be first thing in the morning before my first pot of coffee...

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 12:58 PM

You and I share the same problem. Dakota (yellow lab) loves to fetch and when down on the beach she thinks everybody wants to play with her. If somebody waves a stick or leans down to pick up a rock she just wags her tail in excitement thinking the game is about to begin. I have had to intervene several times and it has taken a lot of restraint on my part at times in the face of some folks ignorance...

Cyanide41 - 1-13-2009 at 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by LOSARIPES
Pit bulls are dangerous

The only time my pitbull is dangerous is when you are attacking me. Don't attack me and you won't have a problem.

I am not going to defend all pitbulls because lets face it, some are dangerous. Just like I am not going to defend all dogs of any other breed either. Hell Chihuhuas are known to be one of the most vicious. They just lack the strength and size of more "dangerous" dogs.

[Edited on 1-13-2009 by Cyanide41]

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 02:04 PM

I don't think anybody would fear an approaching, growling, foaming at the mouth chihuahua nearly as much as an approaching pit bull that stares you in the eyes.

Just a plain fact...

Woooosh - 1-13-2009 at 02:11 PM

One of the sweetest dogs at the san diego dog park I frequent is a pit. It's the owners- not the breed.

DENNIS - 1-13-2009 at 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
After that- A pice of chicken with an injection of anti-freeze should do the trick and is the Mexican method.

That may be one of the methods but, they have others more cruel than I care to imagine. One being, ground glass in raw hamburger meat. Shreds them from the inside out.
Jeezo....If you want to kill a dog, kill it. Don't torture it.

Iflyfish - 1-13-2009 at 02:55 PM

Some of the latest suggestions have me confused. Are you suggesting making love, not war? That is a lot of groping being bandied about!

Iflyfishwhennottryingtogetthoseimagesofdogsgenitalsandburrooutofmymind

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 03:09 PM

I'll just keep this mean face on and hope I can scare him away...

:lol:

Woooosh - 1-13-2009 at 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGringo
I'll just keep this mean face on and hope I can scare him away...

:lol:

Yup, they WERE plastic. Marley has nothing on my yellow lab and it wouldn't have taken 17 dogs to play him.

That new mug shot avatar is scary. I'm sure I've seen it on TSG or something. That photo is another reminder of why I don't drink in public.

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
That new mug shot avatar is scary. I'm sure I've seen it on TSG or something. That photo is another reminder of why I don't drink in public.

I know, I use it to remind me too. Could you imagine the reaction of his fans if he walked out on stage looking like that???

:wow:

desertcpl - 1-13-2009 at 04:26 PM

A woman out walking her small dog was attacked by a pair of pit bulls Monday in South Bay.

Lawrence Kijanka, 30, told the San Diego Union-Tribune, that he and another good Samaritan rescued the screaming woman, who was on the ground with her dog on Jefferson near K Street in Chula Vista. The attack took place at about 6:30 a.m. and involved a pair of pit bulls.

"I ran outside in my sweat pants and saw a woman on the ground with blood on her forehead," Kijanka told the paper.

Chula Vista police spokesman Bernard Gonzales confirmed that the attack had taken place, saying that the woman told investigators she picked up her dog when the animals approached and became aggressive. He said the woman then either fell or was pushed to the ground by the dogs, and she was bitten on her arms and possibly on the legs. The bites are not believed to have been severe, Gonzales said.

The dogs were later located by animal control officers, who took them to an animal shelter. No decisions have yet been made on what will happen to them, Gonzalez said, adding that the dogs' owner has been informed about the attack.

Cypress - 1-13-2009 at 04:37 PM

Those pit bulls make good gator bait.

castaway$ - 1-13-2009 at 04:47 PM

whack em in the head with a shovel, it won't kill the dog but it will get the meassage that you are the alpha.

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 05:20 PM

The couple of times in my life where I truly felt fear of being attacked by a dog I simply held my ground, put on a face very close to my avatar and simply ordered the dog to shut up and sit, using both my tone and body language to establish my control. Whether by stupid luck or design, it worked both times. In fact the first time it happened the dog eventually became part of the family and over time and with training proved to be one of the best dogs I ever had.

If faced with a pack of dogs I doubt that tactic would stand little chance. (unless it was a pack of vicious chihuahua's)

:lol:

TMW - 1-13-2009 at 05:33 PM

Last week a pit bull attacked a little dog and when a 12 year old girl (who was walking the little dog) tried to seperate the dogs the pit bull attacked her. A 10 year old boy who was walking with her put a jujitsu choke hold from behind on the dog and held it for 20 minutes until the cops arrived. The boy had learned it in his self defense class. They said the dog went limp but did not die. The dog is still being held.

It was here in Bakersfield, CA. Country music west.

[Edited on 1-14-2009 by TW]

Woooosh - 1-13-2009 at 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by castaway$
whack em in the head with a shovel, it won't kill the dog but it will get the meassage that you are the alpha.

I had to pee on my dog to tell him I was the alpha. Less violent and I had to go anyway.

Not much glamor for a rhinestone cowboy- eh?

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 05:43 PM

You crack me up...

:lol:

DianaT - 1-13-2009 at 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo

If faced with a pack of dogs I doubt that tactic would stand little chance. (unless it was a pack of vicious chihuahua's)

:lol:

I have only been bitten by one dog---a three legged chihuahua. And John who worked for a vet when he was in college, has only been bitten by one dog---a chihuahua in El Rosario---so

So, if we see a pack of chihuahuas coming our way, we are history! :lol:

Diane

[Edited on 1-14-2009 by jdtrotter]

Paulina - 1-13-2009 at 08:22 PM

I was walking my 240 lb English Mastiff on the beach in Bahia and we were both attacked by a chihuahua.

Dern was helping a man with a dead horse in Punta Banda and was bitten on the ankle by the man's chihuahua.

Nasty little footballs.

P<*)))>{

BajaGringo - 1-13-2009 at 11:12 PM

Yea, I have heard that about them little dogs, The difference though is how many headlines have you read of someone being mauled to death by a chihuahua???

Choosing between a mean looking pit bull and a growling chihuahua I will take my chances with the pint sized version...

DianaT - 1-13-2009 at 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGringo

Choosing between a mean looking pit bull and a growling chihuahua I will take my chances with the pint sized version...

You mean the ones Paulina referred to as footballs? :lol:

Seriously, large agressive dogs need to disappear. I am a confirmed dog lover, but i have also seen what a larger agreesive dog can do to a childs face in a matter of seconds. When he was 6 years old, my nephew was no match for an agressive Akita.

One way or another, that agressive Pit Bull in the RV park needs to disappear. JMHO

Diane

Update-----

thefishaholic - 1-13-2009 at 11:32 PM

The pit's owner met with park manager and I and the dog's owner acted like this was the first time. The manager stood his ground and in the interest of allowing him to find a home/place for the dog's allowed them to stay, totally locked in the bodega until Saturday (his timeshare job has him working till Thursday)with the owner signing a "full liability" agreement.

Now, afterdark and the park office closed another rig showed up and they have a pit that aggresively barks at everyone and the owner has it on a leash that he holds, then walks the dog away from those walking by???

We should get an answer tomorrow if we got the permanent lot at another Park and will be outta here soon.

BTW Chaco is from Santispac and Russ's pit (Tiger) was his best friend and one of the neatest dog's the wife and I have ever met.

Barry A. - 1-13-2009 at 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jdtrotter

Quote:

Originally posted by BajaGringo

Choosing between a mean looking pit bull and a growling chihuahua I will take my chances with the pint sized version...

You mean the ones Paulina referred to as footballs? :lol:

Diane------not just "6 year olds"----------a large agressive dog ( a great dane) once tore my ear off, causing about $2000 bucks of plastic surgery to my face and ear, and I almost lost my right eye. I was 45 at the time. No, I was NOT threatening it's owner-----it was a random attack by a very old dog. The dog was "put down" a week later by the owner after it bit another adult. I still have the scars to remind me.

I like dogs too, but would have no problem turning an agressive dog into a history-clip in an instant.

Barry

[Edited on 1-14-2009 by Barry A.]

LOSARIPES - 1-14-2009 at 02:56 AM

Pit bulls are dangerous. That is fact. They may love their owners and never attack them but you just never know what they'll do to a child or just anybody. They can turn viciously aggressive on people they have known for years. Just out of nothing. There is something in their brain that makes them do that. There are many stories that prove it. I'd rather have a lab. They are smart, loving and lots of fun. They protect you as well and you can rest assured they wont try to kill your neighbor.

mulegemichael - 1-14-2009 at 05:58 PM

labs, pitbulls,c-cker spaniels, yada,yada, yada....they ALL bite if confronted or feel threatened....i was bit 7 times in my 20 yrs as a park ranger...7 times...i am now afraid of any and all dogs...almost a phobia....but...it was my fault ...i walked into their space, after dark, to register their mom and dad for camping...it was my fault...i invaded their space....but, when you have an animal that goes outside that arena, it's time to take action...sorry....dog's gotta go

BajaGringo - 1-14-2009 at 06:09 PM

It all comes back to how you train an animal from the get go. An exception to that may occur as a dog gets old. I have seen a few that were great dogs with very even temperaments but they may get crotchety as they age and I know of one that even bit their owner. I have also heard that as dogs lose their senses of smell, site and hearing they can bite as a fearful reaction. It still comes back to their owners knowing their own dogs and how to care for/keep them.

Not always an easy answer...

BajaNuts - 1-14-2009 at 07:00 PM

I've been chased many times while riding my bike and also walking. After many episodes of Cesar Milan "The Dog Whisperer", it all comes down to boundaries. Dogs who run out of their yard to chase walkers or others have not learned any boundaries.

As a walker, you can teach that dog your boundaries. You can take the time to work with the dog on a one-on one basis............. Yea RIGHT! (NOT!:lol

Using a pepper spray on the dog is the best deterant I've heard so far. If you need something sooner than you can get ahold of some pepper spray, mix some household ammonia with water (50/50 should do the trick) and spray that on the dog when it comes at you. A good trigger-type sprayer bottle can reach up to 10 feet.

I've also used chili powder as a deterant. Any kind of cheap chili powder. The dog may get closer than you'd like, but a shaker full of the stuff in the dog's face is effective.

Our neighbor's crazy goat was coming over to our yard and chasing the dogs and our 5 year old child a few years ago. It was even coming up onto the front deck. This goat is BIG, it's back is 4' tall, head and horns over 5' tall! Yelling didn't chase it away, neither did the broom. Talk about scared! It was putting it's head (with horns!)down and charging me. The only thing I could get ahold of in a hurry was some bottled hot sauce, and did seem to have an effect when splashed in it's face.

BTW, chili powder also worked brilliantly for training the new puppy to stay out of the garbage can. Just a little sprinkle in the can and that chicken carcass don't smell so good no more...

Take a spray "weapon" with you on the walk, talk or make some noise when approaching the bad dog's area, and be ready to spray. Maybe try it a couple of times without your pup so you don't have too many things to worry about.

Good Luck...

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaNuts]

mulegemichael - 1-14-2009 at 07:11 PM

good advise with the pepper spray....also...yeah, ammonia REALLY works great!...they won't be back for more, i guarantee it...and i love to tie a handkerchief onto the wheel so that the aggresive dog has something to chomp onto...it'll only happen once!!!try it, you'll like it!

BajaNuts - 1-14-2009 at 07:25 PM

Don't wanna hijack this thread but....

pssst....BajaGringo.....

If you need an avatar for those times when ya shoulda kept yer mouth shut...(not that it would EVER happen to you.......)

you can use this picture-

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaNuts]

BajaGringo - 1-14-2009 at 07:28 PM

I followed the url - love it!!!

biglar - 1-14-2009 at 08:17 PM

If you "say" you didn't want to hijack this thread, then why did you hijack it ?? Start a separate thread.

Lar.

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by biglar]

BajaNuts - 1-14-2009 at 08:22 PM

cuz there were references to the new avatar earlier in this thread...

sorry....

and I hope anyone with other hints for handling bad dogs and their owners will continue to chime in, despite the funny pic.

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaNuts]

BajaGeoff - 1-15-2009 at 11:03 AM

If it works on bears, I am sure it would stop a charging dog in it's tracks too....

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaGeoff]

LB - 1-15-2009 at 11:17 AM

I have two chihuahua's. One is a thinks he is a pit bull and will go after
bigger dogs he does not know and people who come on the property that
he does not know or does not like. He moves so fast and looks so fierce with
his hair raised down his back....a grown man can do quite a dance trying
to keep his ankles safe. Once he gets to know you and trust you, he is a good friend.

The other is a Mexican rescue, who is a lover, all he wants is to be hugged
and get petted on his head. Each dog with in a bread is different.

Ken Bondy - 1-15-2009 at 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Woooosh
One of the sweetest dogs at the san diego dog park I frequent is a pit. It's the owners- not the breed.

Finally - somebody gets it right.

vandenberg - 1-15-2009 at 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGeoff
If it works on bears, I am sure it would stop a charging dog in it's tracks too....

[Edited on 1-15-2009 by BajaGeoff]

Always wondered if that stuff would work on a "charging" grizzly. Doubt that anyone would be willing to give it a try.
Somehow I have the feeling that it's for use against bear encounters, where they won't back off to loud sounds and need to be chased off.
And basically, the same goes for dogs. I doubt a vicious dog would let itself be detered by anything but a bullet or shotgun.

Barry A. - 1-15-2009 at 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ken Bondy

Quote:

Originally posted by Woooosh
One of the sweetest dogs at the san diego dog park I frequent is a pit. It's the owners- not the breed.

Finally - somebody gets it right.

Ken------I had a "husky/german shepard" cross that was the sweetest dog ever, and loved everybody. BUT, put her in a car and she was a holy-terror to anybody that approached that car----------we never could figure it out----------but she was rescued from an animal shelter in Grand Junction, CO when she was about 6 months old and maybe had a bad experience before we got her????

Like I said, we never could figure it out. Other than that, a fabulous dog. (she was also terrified of the smell of "cooking lamb")

Barry

burnrope - 1-15-2009 at 12:21 PM

Finger up the butt stops me everytime.

BajaGringo - 1-15-2009 at 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by burnrope
Finger up the butt stops me everytime.

Care to elaborate???

:lol:

Pescador - 1-15-2009 at 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by vandenberg

Always wondered if that stuff would work on a "charging" grizzly. Doubt that anyone would be willing to give it a try.
Somehow I have the feeling that it's for use against bear encounters, where they won't back off to loud sounds and need to be chased off.
And basically, the same goes for dogs. I doubt a vicious dog would let itself be detered by anything but a bullet or shotgun.

We went to Hyder, Alaska on our last trip to Alaska, and since this is one of the best places in the world to see and photograph both Grizzlies and Black bears, you can imagine that there is a large population. One of the locals, who really was in the know, told me that any bear over 3 yrs. old has been sprayed enough times that all anyone needs to do is appoximate the sound of pepper spray going off with a "PSSSSSST" and the bear heads for the woods on a dead run. So, unless the dog has been trained otherwise, a full shot in the face will deter any dog who is charging or coming on really fast.
I do find it interesting that the criterion for bad dogs is the owner, but in the event that I am getting charged by a dog, I very seldom have the time to "interview the owner to see if the proper training has taken place", so I am of the school that I spray first and ask questions later. If any owners have problems with that then I suspect the whole world will be a happier place if they just keep the animal under control with a leash. My son and I were running through the park one day when out of the bushes a bulldog charges him and grabs him by the hand. The owner comes running out of the bushes and hollers that we should not do anything to the dog as he is very friendly. My son held up the dog in the air that was firmly attached to his hand and said, "Yes, I can see that he really likes me."

Timo1 - 1-15-2009 at 01:05 PM

If anyone figures bear spray won't stop a charging dog...They're crazy
We had an accidental spraying go off on a camping trip in BC Canada
Very remote high lake
Barb took the brunt of it and couldn't see for about 45 min.
I was outside getting the boat in the water and couldn't get near the camper
I led her to the lake to flush her face and eyes as the can directed and it seemed to make it worse
Good thing it happened early in the day or the camper would have been inhabitable by bedtime
That stuff is MUY powerfull
As for a charging grizzly....wouldn't want to have to try but it stopped Barb in her tracks
Close second :lol: