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CNN on the Fence

Diver - 2-15-2009 at 09:34 AM

CNN is about to show a story about the "fence".
Wonder what they'll say ?

Skipjack Joe - 2-15-2009 at 09:47 AM

They will say:

By God it worked so well for Israel we're gonna do it too!

Woooosh - 2-15-2009 at 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Diver
CNN is about to show a story about the "fence".
Wonder what they'll say ?


Now there's a worthwhile program to create american jobs I can support. I didn't get to view the 1100 page Obama stimulus plan on-line yet to see if it's in there though.

edited: I did find $100 million for border fence construction... How many miles is that? ten?

[Edited on 2-15-2009 by Woooosh]

Bajahowodd - 2-15-2009 at 05:10 PM

They're gearing up to produce longer ladders in Juarez.

Don Alley - 2-15-2009 at 05:11 PM

I saw it and it was a very short piece.

They interviewed a border patrol officer who praised the fence. He said that before the new fence, that sector saw 800 illegals a day. The fence cut that back to 25.

OK, now doesn't that beg the question: If the fence can cut illegal crossings so dramatically, do we still need as many border patrolmen? Maybe we could save a little green from Uncle Sam's budget? :biggrin:

Bajahowodd - 2-15-2009 at 05:27 PM

Unfortunatley, it's just like the so-called war on drugs. A bureaucracy has been put in place, and it is in no one's interest to dismantle it. Except the taxpayer. But I thought they dismantled that wall in Berlin. That sort of leaves us and Israel as the big proponents of walls. Since the relations between Israel and Palestine are so rosey, I guess we can expect the same between us and Mexico. Not that anyone here thinks that there are any Mexicans that feel that we are flipping the bird at them.

Wall

BajaDanD - 2-15-2009 at 06:39 PM

The berlin wall was designed to keep people in more then out. We are not trying to keep anyone in the USof A

Bajahowodd - 2-15-2009 at 07:59 PM

A wall is a wall.

Woooosh - 2-15-2009 at 08:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Don Alley
I saw it and it was a very short piece.

They interviewed a border patrol officer who praised the fence. He said that before the new fence, that sector saw 800 illegals a day. The fence cut that back to 25.

OK, now doesn't that beg the question: If the fence can cut illegal crossings so dramatically, do we still need as many border patrolmen? Maybe we could save a little green from Uncle Sam's budget? :biggrin:


..and if that fence system stopped the illegal flow of guns into Mexico- it would be embraced by the Mexican Gov't ?
:saint:

[Edited on 2-16-2009 by Woooosh]

wiltonh - 2-15-2009 at 08:24 PM

My question: Is it the fence or is it the economic slow down in the US that has decreased the flow of illegals.

BajaGringo - 2-15-2009 at 10:47 PM

I think it's a combination of the factors...

Bajahowodd - 2-16-2009 at 12:00 AM

My vote is more for the economy. Word gets around. Who's going to risk their life to go where there is no work?

Ford - 2-16-2009 at 08:34 AM

No doubt about it! I have noticed at least 3 to 4 times as many people looking for work in the Home Depot parking lot. Another reason for the decrease could be the border patrol watching the fence to see how many go over didn't see all the people going around!

Iflyfish - 2-16-2009 at 10:07 PM

Robert Frost: The Mending Wall apt I think. Iflyfish

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,
And spills the upper boulders in the sun,
And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.
The work of hunters is another thing:
I have come after them and made repair
Where they have left not one stone on a stone,
But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,
To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,
No one has seen them made or heard them made,
But at spring mending-time we find them there.
I let my neighbor know beyond the hill;
And on a day we meet to walk the line
And set the wall between us once again.
We keep the wall between us as we go.
To each the boulders that have fallen to each.
And some are loaves and some so nearly balls
We have to use a spell to make them balance:
'Stay where you are until our backs are turned!'
We wear our fingers rough with handling them.
Oh, just another kind of out-door game,
One on a side. It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard.
My apple trees will never get across
And eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.
He only says, 'Good fences make good neighbors'.
Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonder
If I could put a notion in his head:
'Why do they make good neighbors? Isn't it
Where there are cows?
But here there are no cows.
Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.' I could say 'Elves' to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me~
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, "Good fences make good neighbors."

Spyderman - 2-16-2009 at 10:54 PM

You know we just don't have any imagination in this country. Every illegal that is caught crossing into the United States should be put to work building a moat from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico. When done it would be one of the great tourist attractions in the world, we could charge admission, when done we could start building another on the northern border. The Great Moats of America, creates tourism and stops illegal immigration all at once.

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 11:25 PM

Bajahowodd - 2-16-2009 at 11:57 PM

Love Robert Frost. Think he got it wrong here. Or at least that people misinterpret his sentiment for their own purposes.