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Not so rosy at Rosarito

Taco de Baja - 2-15-2009 at 10:40 AM

From today's OC Register Travel section.

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Not so rosy at Rosarito
The Baja resort is beautiful but empty as the economy and crime fears keep visitors away.

By MARLA JO FISHER
The Orange County Register

It's a warm Saturday night in January as we head out for a stroll along the main resort drag of Rosarito Beach in Baja California Norte.

Most of the cafes are closed or empty, and nightclubs are shut down. Few stores are open, even though it's a holiday weekend in the United States, 20 miles to the north.

Baja has always been one of my favorite vacation spots, whether for an adventure trip to one of the stunning natural destinations or a quick lobster dinner near the border.

Great food, beautiful scenery, nice people, excellent beer, cheap shopping: It's a place to have a lot of fun without spending a lot of money.

And it should be cheaper than ever, with the exchange rate at 14 pesos to the dollar.

But now the Americans, who make up these resorts' main source of visitors, have largely vanished, scared away by drug cartel violence and crooked cops. The U.S. State Department has put a "travel alert" on the area, warning visitors to take extra precautions. The poor state of the economy doesn't help, either.

When my friend Rose Marie told me on a recent morning that she had to make a quick business trip, I decided to throw some clothes in a bag and come along. I'm a former cops reporter, and Rose Marie rode around Uganda on the back of a motorbike at age 75. We figured we could handle Rosarito.

We tossed my 10-year-old daughter, Sandy, in the jump seat of Rose Marie's pickup and headed out Saturday morning of Martin Luther King Jr. weekend.

Two hours later, we crossed the border into Mexico easily and headed south. The day was stunningly warm and sunny, and the air was unusually clear.

We took the toll road to Rosarito, transacted my friend's business, and then decided to check out a couple of hotels. I figured that the lodgings would be hurting financially so they might be offering some "incentive pricing" that would make a spur-of-the-moment overnight worthwhile.

First, we stopped at Los Pelicanos, a modest hotel on the north end of town that I've always liked. Last time it was about $50 a night. They wanted $68 a night, just for a regular room, with no ocean view. Ouch! No thanks; we passed.

My favorite hotel here has always been the venerable Rosarito Beach Hotel, which was a destination for Hollywood stars back when there was nothing else around. Even when it later became run-down, before it was restored, we still used to stop there for breakfast and admire the attractive neo-Colonial architecture.

Later, the entire property was restored with lovely murals, decorative Mexican art, and I've always enjoyed visiting, whether I was staying there or not.

We inquired at the front desk about a room for the night for two ladies and a little girl, and were offered a price of $99. Not exactly the rock-bottom deal I was looking for, especially when I'd heard prices had dropped as low as $29 during the week. After several minutes of negotiation, we managed to persuade them to give us a studio in the new Pacifico Tower wing adjacent to the main building, regular price $159, for $99. I was curious to see this newly opened, 17-story condo resort, so we agreed, even though the price still seemed a bit high.

Our studios on the fourth floor of this new building had lovely, contemporary Mexican architecture and furnishings. Our room had a comfortable king-size bed with high-quality bedding; two flat-screen TVs; a kitchenette with sink, microwave and minifridge; a leatherette couch that turned into a not-very-comfortable futon; and a lovely balcony overlooking a cobalt-blue pool and the ocean.

My daughter's favorite room was the bath, with soaker tub and a rain shower.

The building seemed virtually empty; we saw hardly any lights on and only five or six people down by the pool. The hot tub looked nice but empty of water.

This area was completely separate from the main resort facilities, which also include a pool and hot tub.

We drove down to Puerto Nuevo for dinner. This famous lobster village was lightly populated. Few people were buying at the trinket stalls around the restaurants. When I bought some earrings at an outdoor stall, I couldn't even bring myself to bargain. The owner told me he was moving to Canada next week to take a job there because "there's nothing to do here."

After dinner, we returned to Rosarito and walked the main drag, which would normally be jammed on a holiday weekend. It was virtually empty, save for local people who had come into town for the evening. The only crowd was at the El Michoacana ice cream stand, and it was all local people treating their kids. I felt sad for the merchants, and the whole scene felt surreal.

Since there seemed to be nothing much to do for a couple of middle-age ladies with a child, we went back to the hotel and sat out on the balcony, listening to the surf roar until it was time for bed.

In the morning, we stumbled almost by accident onto the tower's beautiful rooftop pool area, with cobalt-blue lap pool, loungers and a view of the entire countryside. We were the only people there.

Driving home, I was debating whether to come back down soon and spend an entire day lounging at the deserted rooftop pool deck. I was thinking about writing a travel story about our crime-free weekend in Rosarito Beach.

As we were about to pull up onto the ramp in Tijuana that leads into the customs area back to the U.S., Rose Marie was pulled over by a motorcycle cop.

I was expecting him to tell us we were going the wrong way. Instead, he told Rose Marie that she was speeding – not true – and had failed to use her turn signal – true. He wanted her to pay him $140 in cash for the ticket. In other words, he wanted a bribe.

He also gave us the possibility of "going to the courthouse" instead of paying him in cash, which he made sound quite unappetizing. I was a bit worried about our Mexican auto insurance expiring before we crossed the border, but after dithering for a bit, we decided that, yes, we would go see the judge.

Miraculously, once we announced we would prefer to go to the courthouse, the motorcycle cop snapped his ticket book shut and said he was giving us a warning instead.

"But, next time, you ladies watch out," he told us.

Oh, you betcha. We'll certainly watch out. Thanks for the warning.

(Editors Note: Marla Jo Fisher traveled anonymously and paid her own way to Rosarito Beach.)


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Woooosh - 2-15-2009 at 11:36 AM

What's to say? It is what is is. The challenge for Rosarito Beach is the next step down the ladder as the economic troubles continue to slide worldwide. Mr. Iggy and the other threat-sensitive business owners of Rosarito aren't coming back any time soon (Iggy is the club owner who organized spring break events and put up the lions share of Rosarito's marketing dollars). So how many years of no tourists can a tourist town survive? It sure sounds like they haven't embraced discounting as a marketing tool.

The moving to Canada mention is interesting. We have a single female family friend who did just that- sold her place in TJ and moved to Vancouver. As a Mexican national she was welcomed and even well taken care of upon her arrival- even though she didn't have any papers to legally transit the USA to get there. She thinks she's landed in heaven with all the instant social benefitss for immigrants. I'm sure some Nomad Canadians can fill us in on this generosity of theirs.

Phone in order

Dave - 2-15-2009 at 11:39 AM

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(Editors Note: Marla Jo Fisher traveled anonymously and paid her own way to Rosarito Beach.)
;D;D



Not that it matters. Rosarito is a pig sty... of its own making and deserves the bad press, real and invented.

CaboRon - 2-15-2009 at 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Dave
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(Editors Note: Marla Jo Fisher traveled anonymously and paid her own way to Rosarito Beach.)
;D;D



Not that it matters. Rosarito is a pig sty... of its own making and deserves the bad press, real and invented.


You got that right ............

Woooosh - 2-15-2009 at 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by CaboRon
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Originally posted by Dave
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(Editors Note: Marla Jo Fisher traveled anonymously and paid her own way to Rosarito Beach.)
;D;D



Not that it matters. Rosarito is a pig sty... of its own making and deserves the bad press, real and invented.


You got that right ............


Pig Stye? Why be cruel to pigs? During the last big rain storm the beach rangers told me the only dead animal they found was a pig on the beach- I asked about them having carnitas later on- but they said it was too late. lol

And am I the only one who wonders why the annual tourist drive know as the Rosarito Beach/Puerto Nuevo Lobster festival is held a month when local lobster is out of season and they have to use all frozen imported ones?



[Edited on 2-15-2009 by Woooosh]

Bajahowodd - 2-15-2009 at 01:59 PM

I really never "got" Rosarito. Always preferred Ensenada. Slightly reminiscent of Europe, what with the sidewalk cafes. They're not doing much better. Only time there's a crowd (other than race week) is when the cruise ships stop.

BajaGringo - 2-15-2009 at 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

And am I the only one who wonders why the annual tourist drive know as the Rosarito Beach/Puerto Nuevo Lobster festival is held a month when local lobster is out of season and they have to use all frozen imported ones?



Are you serious?

Woooosh - 2-15-2009 at 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
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Originally posted by Woooosh

And am I the only one who wonders why the annual tourist drive know as the Rosarito Beach/Puerto Nuevo Lobster festival is held a month when local lobster is out of season and they have to use all frozen imported ones?



Are you serious?


yup.

Lobster season is early October through mid March and the Lobster Festival is held in September (Labor Day weekend).

Bajahowodd - 2-15-2009 at 11:56 PM

Is no one surprised at the author's claim that the cop asked for $140? I've only been subject to a mordita attempt twice in my years of travel. I recall it was more like $25.

Woooosh - 2-16-2009 at 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Is no one surprised at the author's claim that the cop asked for $140? I've only been subject to a mordita attempt twice in my years of travel. I recall it was more like $25.


I figured they have 5 times less cars to harass these days so they charge 5 times more when they can. Mexican math- SOS.

Bajahowodd - 2-16-2009 at 12:09 AM

:lol:

Taco de Baja - 2-16-2009 at 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Is no one surprised at the author's claim that the cop asked for $140? I've only been subject to a mordita attempt twice in my years of travel. I recall it was more like $25.


That's what the cop hit me up for in August 2007 in TJ along the border fence. Same charge too speeding – probably, but not by much, and I was going with the flow – albeit at the back of the flow…). I tried the "let's go to the station". We drove a few more blocks "looking for it" (in the wrong place) and he pulled me over again and asked what I though I should pay...He laughed at my offer of $20 and of $40, he finally accepted $50. It was the beginning of my vacation and I had friends waiting at the first toll booth and I just did not want the hassle any more.

I know now that I can ask for the ticket on the spot and pay the fine by mail when I get home....The cop implied it had to be paid immediately.

Woooosh - 2-16-2009 at 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Taco de Baja
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Is no one surprised at the author's claim that the cop asked for $140? I've only been subject to a mordita attempt twice in my years of travel. I recall it was more like $25.


That's what the cop hit me up for in August 2007 in TJ along the border fence. Same charge too speeding – probably, but not by much, and I was going with the flow – albeit at the back of the flow…). I tried the "let's go to the station". We drove a few more blocks "looking for it" (in the wrong place) and he pulled me over again and asked what I though I should pay...He laughed at my offer of $20 and of $40, he finally accepted $50. It was the beginning of my vacation and I had friends waiting at the first toll booth and I just did not want the hassle any more.

I know now that I can ask for the ticket on the spot and pay the fine by mail when I get home....The cop implied it had to be paid immediately.


I think the ticket rule is for Rosarito only.

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 11:21 AM

Somewhere I have a brochure from the government of Baja's office of tourism. In that brochure they state that the officer can issue you a ticket and lists the address where you can mail the payment. I would give it out to friends to carry with them to show to a cop in case they were stopped.

If I can find a copy of it I will scan it and upload it...

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 11:22 AM

Just found the link:

http://www.discoverbajacalifornia.com/safety/traffic_tickets...

Woooosh - 2-16-2009 at 12:59 PM

Nice job BG. I didn't have that link updated either. Thanks.

Packoderm - 2-16-2009 at 01:04 PM

What the cops there need to do in TJ and Rosarito is make the take home tickets count against you on your U.S. auto insurance. Then they got you. You will then have to contribute to their personal financial well being via bribes. Is this policy already in place, or does what happens in Mexico stay in Mexico?

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 01:11 PM

There is no reporting of traffic tickets from Mexico to the USA.

Thank God...

Bajahowodd - 2-16-2009 at 01:15 PM

Remember the good old days when there was no reporting from state to state? That speeding ticket in Nevada never showed up in the CA DMV.

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 01:25 PM

I remember I got a ticket in Yosemite years ago, issued by the park police that never showed up on my DMV.

BajaNomad - 2-16-2009 at 01:25 PM

Reference:

For those not having seen it, the author of this article posted her link to the original article (from the O.C. Register) in this thread - along with a thank you to the Amigos and Nomads along the way that "coached" her on how to potentially avoid mordida payments....

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37036

The Gull - 2-16-2009 at 08:16 PM

Good old Marla, what a charmer. How fair and even handed you are.:no::no::no:

Editorially returning to the scene of the town that your consistently raked over the coals with second hand misinformation gleaned from bulletin boards and Blogs. And to think that you were engaged in that behavior just 12 months ago. How quick some forget and how quick some wished others would forget.

Now you write this piece, (agree with Dave on this point) like the last one, from your home in Long Beach without even as much as setting one foot into Playas de Rosarito.

Just so we all keep playing along with your fabricated story - Yeah, yeah you went to Playas de Rosarito and you got to see the human suffering brought on in large part by journalistic sensationalism. ...and what were you most concerned about, the people? NO! The social damage? NO! Your friend's, your daughter's or your personal safety? NO!

Your number ONE concern was a way to increase the depth of Baja's economic problems by having three people stay for 1/2 the price it would have been in any hotel in the US while moaning over the fact that you thought you were ENTITLED to a rate of $29/night. This yarn of yours matches the spiteful material you published last year. When do you ever get over yourself?

Of course, to give the story TOTAL REALISM and the right amount of anti-Mexican bias, why don't you tell a quaint story about how you got stopped by a cop - that's a new one! After all you needed to have the perfect, if not ironic ending, to what may have been a crime free weekend fable, but thank gawd you remembered reading all those postings on Nomad - stopped by a TJ cop where the heroine Marla saves the day. I must say, it brought a tear to an eye.

There are reasons YOU should always cross the border ANONYMOUSLY, assuming you ever do cross.

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 08:29 PM

Do you have a link to her prior post/column? I wasn't familiar with her...

BajaNomad - 2-16-2009 at 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
Do you have a link to her prior post/column?
Possibly this is the article being referenced?:

http://www.ocregister.com/news/police-attack-rosarito-194750...

BajaGringo - 2-16-2009 at 11:17 PM

Read the article - she uses Mike Overcast as an "expert". I guess that should be a red flag...

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Bajahowodd - 2-16-2009 at 11:54 PM

Anyone wonder what kind of business an 80-ish woman has down there?

Do you guys know Marla?

David K - 2-17-2009 at 08:39 AM

She is a Nomad (posted the link herself in another thread)... and was a regular on Amigos de Baja before Nomad... Marla has attended Viva Baja, Pyramid Resort Baja Book and BBBB events in the past, and has promoted Baja travel.

Perhaps the cops should stop the false arrests instead of asking Marla to keep quiet about a real event?

She does travel all over Mexico... and has traveled once with me, Debra and others in the Viva Baja van to BBBB #2 in Guadalupe Canyon. See http://vivabaja.com/bbbb2 where I posted photos she took... some used in an OC Register article she wrote.

Here's Marla with lot's of us at Viva Baja #2, with other Amigos who wore orange for Wendy/ Mermelada (Mrs. El Camote):


Top row: Mary Ann, Jeans, Graham, Michelle, Suzanne, Neal, Mike Danley. Bottom row: LN (Ellen), Barb, Marla, and Mermelada (Wendy).

[Edited on 2-17-2009 by David K]

CaboRon - 2-17-2009 at 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by David K
She is a Nomad (posted the link herself in another thread)... and was a regular on Amigos de Baja before Nomad... Marla has attended Viva Baja, Pyramid Resort Baja Book and BBBB events in the past, and has promoted Baja travel.

Perhaps the cops should stop the false arrests instead of asking Marla to keep quiet about a real event?

She does travel all over Mexico... and has traveled once with me, Debra and others in the Viva Baja van to BBBB #2 in Guadalupe Canyon. See http://vivabaja.com/bbbb2 where I posted photos she took... some used in an OC Register article she wrote.

[Edited on 2-17-2009 by David K]


Thank's Marla for a good article.

It is amazing what a wolf pack you guys are ...

If someone doesn't agree with your view thru rose coloured glasses -

You attack -

Woooosh - 2-17-2009 at 09:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
She is a Nomad (posted the link herself in another thread)... and was a regular on Amigos de Baja before Nomad... Marla has attended Viva Baja, Pyramid Resort Baja Book and BBBB events in the past, and has promoted Baja travel.

Perhaps the cops should stop the false arrests instead of asking Marla to keep quiet about a real event?

She does travel all over Mexico... and has traveled once with me, Debra and others in the Viva Baja van to BBBB #2 in Guadalupe Canyon. See http://vivabaja.com/bbbb2 where I posted photos she took... some used in an OC Register article she wrote.

Here's Marla with lot's of us at Viva Baja #2, with other Amigos who wore orange for Wendy/ Mermelada (Mrs. El Camote):


Top row: Mary Ann, Jeans, Graham, Michelle, Suzanne, Neal, Mike Danley. Bottom row: LN (Ellen), Barb, Marla, and Mermelada (Wendy).

[Edited on 2-17-2009 by David K]


She looks great for 80! :saint:

DianaT - 2-17-2009 at 09:44 AM

Very interesting---

Will the real Marla please stand up? Is she the faithful reporter only retelling her experiences or is she the evil spokesperson who smears with no justification.

Almost sounds like there are two different people being talked about here. Curious. :?:

CaboRon - 2-17-2009 at 10:00 AM

Do you think a doppleganger is involved ?