BajaNomad - Wall Street Journal Chimes in... "The Perilous State of Mexico"

Wall Street Journal Chimes in... "The Perilous State of Mexico"

Woooosh - 2-21-2009 at 05:04 PM

Seems like a fair re-hash with some interesting new details and a little history of the problem thrown in.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123518102536038463.html?mod=...

Bajahowodd - 2-21-2009 at 05:17 PM

Chimes in? How about piling on?

Woooosh - 2-21-2009 at 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Chimes in? How about piling on?

I agree. They add some fresh tidbits and the historical twist though. They're just looking for any dog to kick that won't bite them back- those are hard to find on Wall Street for them right now.

... more: "Death threats force Juarez police chief to resign, mayor says"

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/02/20/juarez.poli...

[Edited on 2-22-2009 by Woooosh]

Bajajack - 2-21-2009 at 05:53 PM

Good article and truthful, especially from a rag known for truth distortion.

Barry A. - 2-21-2009 at 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Bajajack
Good article and truthful, especially from a rag known for truth distortion.

"truth distortion"????? The WSJ is the "standard" by which all other newspapers are measured by---------they are outstanding in their objectivity according to sources that I frequent------one of the few, anymore.

Barry

Bajahowodd - 2-21-2009 at 06:03 PM

Gee. If the WSJ could get behind decrimalization of weed, maybe there's hope. And once again, for the record, I don't smoke pot. Since everyone is scrounging around to find new revenues, perhaps we have reached a tipping point.

Bajajack - 2-21-2009 at 06:45 PM

Damn, I screwed up on that one, I thought it was a NY Times article. :rolleyes:

Bajahowodd - 2-21-2009 at 06:57 PM

:bounce:

k-rico - 2-22-2009 at 07:48 AM

In addition to the predictions of impending doom, the pictures of weapons, criminals, coffins, and dead bodies; that is, the stuff that sells newspapers, there is this statement in the second paragraph:

"Beyond the headline-grabbing violence, Mexico is stable. It has a thriving democracy, the world's 13th-largest economy and a growing middle class. And as many as 90% of those killed are believed to be linked to the trade in some way, say officials."

Woooosh - 2-22-2009 at 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by k-rico
In addition to the predictions of impending doom, the pictures of weapons, criminals, coffins, and dead bodies; that is, the stuff that sells newspapers, there is this statement in the second paragraph:

"Beyond the headline-grabbing violence, Mexico is stable. It has a thriving democracy, the world's 13th-largest economy and a growing middle class. And as many as 90% of those killed are believed to be linked to the trade in some way, say officials."

I find it interesting that the drug war is always the fault of the American drug addicts, the gun probelm is the failure of the US to enforce it's southern border and the victims of narco-crime are almost always complicit in their deaths. JMHO

TMW - 2-22-2009 at 12:22 PM

Steve Merlo, outdoor columnist, wrote a long piece about his duck hunting trip with friends to Los Mochis, Mexico in todays paper. It was a glowing report, great trip, great food and great hotel stay. He had nice things to say about Aero Mexico too. I quote him, " Before we left I had some reservations about our safety , thanks to our stupid news media blowing everything completely out of proportion. Mexico is a large country, and most of the problems people have heard about on the news are due to over zealous reporting about problems in drug-infested border towns, like Tijuana".

Woooosh - 2-22-2009 at 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by TW
Steve Merlo, outdoor columnist, wrote a long piece about his duck hunting trip with friends to Los Mochis, Mexico in todays paper. It was a glowing report, great trip, great food and great hotel stay. He had nice things to say about Aero Mexico too. I quote him, " Before we left I had some reservations about our safety , thanks to our stupid news media blowing everything completely out of proportion. Mexico is a large country, and most of the problems people have heard about on the news are due to over zealous reporting about problems in drug-infested border towns, like Tijuana".

Yup, that's the dmage-control spin... from two years ago. Most people aren't in such denial about it all being media-overblown or border contained. I'm glad he had a great trip though.

Bajahowodd - 2-22-2009 at 01:41 PM

"nice things to say about Aeromexico"? Now that's going to far! :lol:

Pato - 2-22-2009 at 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

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Originally posted by Bajajack
Good article and truthful, especially from a rag known for truth distortion.

The existence of truth distortion being before or after the FOXy acquisition ?

If Rupert Murdoch's influence doesn't raise suspicion for some, nothing will.

Pato - 2-22-2009 at 04:59 PM

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......"Beyond the headline-grabbing violence, Mexico is stable.
It has a thriving democracy, ....." ........

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Barry A. - 2-22-2009 at 05:00 PM

Pato-------------the WSJ has always been a Conservative newspaper, as is FOX----- "y"?------------what is your point here?

Barry

Eugenio - 2-23-2009 at 12:51 PM

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I'm glad he had a good time. It certainly is possible to have a good time in Los Mochis/Sinaloa hunting and fishing - if you use a guide - but I wouldn't be traipsing through the back country alone - stay in the tourist hotels and bars - don't kid yourself - Mochis is in the belly of the beast as far as narco stuff in Mexico - it's only a few hours north of Culiacan.

As far as press coverage - check out

http://www.debate.com.mx/eldebate/default.asp

which is the main Mochis/Sinaloa newspaper if you think that the american press is hyping things - and keep in mind that these mexican reporters have everything to lose by reporting on it.

Woooosh - 2-23-2009 at 05:02 PM

Looks like some of the words in the friday Travel Advisory the gov't sent out is hitting a nerve.

State Dept. Cites 'Large Firefights' in Travel Alert on Mexico

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02...

"Recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the advisory reads. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez. During some of these incidents, U.S. citizens have been trapped and temporarily prevented from leaving the area."

Being "temporarily prevented" from leaving a firefight is never a good thing as far as promoting tourism goes. Tourism is one of Mexico's main sources of income, and the country that sends the most tourists to Mexico is the United States."

I also saw a warning to Universities to encourage Spring Breakers not to go south this year. That won't sit well at all with the Mexican Gov't.

CaboRon - 2-24-2009 at 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by Pato

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......"Beyond the headline-grabbing violence, Mexico is stable.
It has a thriving democracy, ....." ........

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Democracy in Mexico

k-rico - 2-24-2009 at 07:48 AM

The 71 year rule of the PRI came to end in 2000 with Fox and the 2006 election was practically a toss-up between the PAN and PRD parties.

As of 2007, the Revolutionary Institutional Party (PRI) holds 17 governorships, the National Action Party (PAN) holds 8, and the Party of the Democratic (PRD) holds 6, including the Federal District.

state governors

In the congressional election, the PAN won a plurality of 33%, the PRD 29%, and the PRI 27%, while a smaller party PANAL received almost 5% of the vote.

Roundtable on Mexico’s 2006 Election Results

[Edited on 2-24-2009 by k-rico]