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Mexican beer and LIMES?

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Bob H - 4-18-2009 at 07:54 AM

OK, many of us like to pinch a lime in our beer.

Question: Does anyone know WHY this started? I KNOW what the purpose of the lime in the beer and why it became popular!

Anyone know the answer? I do... :smug:;D:smug:

Bob H

woody with a view - 4-18-2009 at 07:58 AM

lime was wiped across the rim of the cans to kill microbes.

dtbushpilot - 4-18-2009 at 07:58 AM

I give up, why?

I always put lime in my beer in Mexico but seldom do it in the states, tradition I guess......dt

Pompano - 4-18-2009 at 07:59 AM

To disinfect Corona bottles? :rolleyes:

It imparts a better flavor to the decomposing mice.

[Edited on 4-18-2009 by Pompano]

lofty - 4-18-2009 at 08:04 AM

I heard it had to do with the smell that was being produced in clear bottles. If a clear bottle sat in the hot sun it would get a bad odor, by putting the lime in it would disguise the smell. This was quit some time ago, but i believe the practice has stuck.

Oso - 4-18-2009 at 08:05 AM

As far as I can recall, it started with Tecate, the first Mexican beer in cans. The steel cans gave it a slight metallic taste which was alleviated by squeezing some lime juice onto the top and sprinkling a little salt on. I still like to do that, but only with TKT.

I don't drink Corona at all and I never push a slice of lime into the neck of a bottle of Pacifico or other beer. In Mexico, beer bottles get recycled. I once got a bottle of Pacifico and after a couple of swigs, noticed something in the bottle. It was a nice blue, moldy old lime peel.

lofty - 4-18-2009 at 08:10 AM

That could be it, i think i had squeezed quite a few limes at the time that i herd the story. But as i recall it had to do with disguising a smell or taste.

David K - 4-18-2009 at 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by lofty
I heard it had to do with the smell that was being produced in clear bottles. If a clear bottle sat in the hot sun it would get a bad odor, by putting the lime in it would disguise the smell. This was quit some time ago, but i believe the practice has stuck.


Yes, don't drink Corona! However, Sol is in a clear bottle and doesn't stink like Corona?

Oh well... Pacifico is muy bueno... XX, too! In fact, it tastes great on tap... Pacifico wasn't available, but XX was for our newly aquired kegerator!:bounce::cool::light:

DENNIS - 4-18-2009 at 08:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
I don't drink Corona at all and I never push a slice of lime into the neck of a bottle of Pacifico or other beer.


I think Madison Avenue started that as an advertising gimmick with Corona although anything that alters the taste of Corona is a welcome addition.

Pompano - 4-18-2009 at 08:13 AM

Oso..right on the mark. I remember the first can of Tecate I ever had. 1961 on the beach at Acapulco..and we DID put salt and lime on the can lid to overcome the bad taste of the steel cans.

lofty - 4-18-2009 at 08:14 AM

So what came first Pacifico (dark bottle) or corona (clear bottle). Chicken or egg

Bajajorge - 4-18-2009 at 09:54 AM

The last case of Corona I bought had a skunky taste.:barf: My preference is Modelo Especial in the bottle, :spingrin:but Especial in the can is about the best Mexican canned beer I've found.:tumble:

bajajudy - 4-18-2009 at 09:57 AM

I always ordered my beer NFL!:rolleyes:

vandenberg - 4-18-2009 at 10:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajajudy
I always ordered my beer NFL!:rolleyes:


Judy, I tried that also, but NO NFL.:biggrin:

Limon Verde

MrBillM - 4-18-2009 at 10:22 AM

What I can't figure out is WHY Gringo Hosts ASSUME that you want a Lime stuffed in your Beer. You'd think they'd ask first. I'd tell them to keep it for someone else.

24baja - 4-18-2009 at 10:54 AM

We bring lime juice and put a squeeze in if we desire the taste, that way there are no peels left in the bottle but taste is simular. Connie

Bajahowodd - 4-18-2009 at 11:00 AM

Corona is one of the greatest marketing successes in history. Old timers probably recall Corona in squat, brown bottles. It was in Mexico, what Old Milwaukee or Keystone is in the states, a second or third tier beer. Sticking it in tall clear bottles for export, and combining it with the iconic beach commercials took it from nowhere, to the number one import in the states, supplanting Heineken. The good news is that its market share has fallen somewhat. Maybe enough folks like those of you with the anti-Corona posts have come to realize that it is still a third tier beer, no matter how well marketed.

Mulegena - 4-18-2009 at 11:04 AM

Limes contain a bit of sodium, a flavor enhancer. It also collapses the bubbles that produce the foam at the top of a glass which some afficionados don't like.

For me, a squeeze of lime in a "blond" beer enriches what is a somewhat thin taste.

Mexican beer: I'll have it in the bottle.
Limes for light beer served very cold in summer.
Limes should never, ever see the lip of a dark full-flavored beer such as Negro Modelo which I choose in the cooler winter months.

24baja - 4-18-2009 at 11:06 AM

I actually like lime or lemon in a Negro Modello, I guess it is a matter of individual taste, huh.

Bob H - 4-18-2009 at 11:10 AM

OK... Here is the REAL answer......

Using limes on/in Mexican beer started because lime juice repels flies. If you are ever in a situation where flies are landing on the top of your beer... squeezing lime juice on the mouth of the bottle will repel them.

Flies will never land on a fresh cut lime, never! :bounce:

Interesting responses to this thread ....

Bob H

Fred - 4-18-2009 at 11:23 AM

Who holds a beer long enough for flies to buzz around it?

Bajahowodd - 4-18-2009 at 11:24 AM

No moscas en mi cerveza.

BMG - 4-18-2009 at 11:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob H
OK... Here is the REAL answer......

Using limes on/in Mexican beer started because lime juice repels flies. If you are ever in a situation where flies are landing on the top of your beer... squeezing lime juice on the mouth of the bottle will repel them.

Flies will never land on a fresh cut lime, never! :bounce:

Interesting responses to this thread ....

Bob H


Wellll........................I think it's cerveza without the fruit is for consuming in the PM while cerveza with the fruit is more of an AM beverage.

capt. mike - 4-18-2009 at 01:09 PM

remember the bottles that had a cap opener built into the bottom?

and, if your beer needs lime it is crappy beer.;D

now....micheladas...there's another story. i like those with lime. and tequila and clamato. best way to deal with a bargain brew.

Bob H - 4-18-2009 at 01:16 PM

Another tidbit... A buddy of mine toured a Tecate brewery. The tour guide said that any bottles that are returned with limes in them are tossed out!
Bob H

Alan - 4-18-2009 at 01:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capt. mike
remember the bottles that had a cap opener built into the bottom?



Ah yes, Carta Blanca! Not a great beer but adequate. Most of all I always figured if someone was that considerate to make it convenient to have another beer the least I could do would be to support them.

I can't recommend decadence as a way of life, but it has worked for me :lol:

Bajahowodd - 4-18-2009 at 01:45 PM

Alas, less and less recycled bottles. Fewer purchases at the Deposito, and more at the supermarkets and OXXO.

Brown Squats

MrBillM - 4-18-2009 at 02:01 PM

Having consumed Huge numbers of the Old Corona in the Short Fat Brown Bottles because it was usually the only beer in the Baja boonies back in the 70s, I can state positively that it wasn't the same Brew as the current Corona Extra.

But, that said, it WAS a better brew than the Most Popular Beer among Mexicans today. Busch Lite.

The Germans that created the better Mexican Beers must be turning over in their graves.

Of course, back in more economical times, I used to drink the "Brown Derby" that Safeway sold for $4.00 a case. Come to think of it, it tasted a lot like the Old Corona.

Bajahowodd - 4-18-2009 at 02:05 PM

It's the chic of drinking an import. I still chuckle thinking of sitting at an outdoor restaurant near Volos, Greece. I was drinking Mythos. Guy at the next table, a Greek was drinking Bud.

Bob H - 4-18-2009 at 02:22 PM

The only Corona beer that I will drink comes in the 'ballina" size bottle... and, it's called Corona Familiar (or something like that). It's pretty good.
Bob H

DENNIS - 4-18-2009 at 05:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBillM
Old Corona in the Short Fat Brown Bottles


Saw a six-pak of that today.

Bajahowodd - 4-18-2009 at 05:27 PM

Didn't buy it, did you?

805gregg - 4-18-2009 at 05:40 PM

Lime was used with Tecate because it tasted so bad and still does, now thats a marketing scheme, now the most popular beer in Baja. It reminds me of Brew 102 from LA. I try to avoid it and lime in any beer.

24baja - 4-18-2009 at 06:25 PM

Brett (my Husband) says "If you have a beer long enough to attract flies, you need to drink faster"......I agree with that logic!

bajajudy - 4-18-2009 at 06:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 805gregg
I try to avoid it and lime in any beer.


So you agree.....NFL

TheColoradoDude - 4-18-2009 at 06:44 PM

I really took a liking to the Sol con Limón Y Sal. Might not be for some, but I found them quite refreshing. Also I think those fat corona bottles are an amber of some sort. :coolup:

rogerj1 - 4-18-2009 at 11:26 PM

I had read that the lime in Mexican beer was started by an American bartender as a marketing idea and quickly gained popularity. I wasn't able to Google the story though.

Bob and Susan - 4-19-2009 at 06:09 AM

our cost for pacifico just went up 13% just brfore samana santa:o

htnfool - 4-19-2009 at 06:58 AM

BOB H,

You told me that answer at Anna's. I could have won the prize. If I just checked a little earlier. I hope the prize wasn't another table dance by Pompano, those poor little tecate table never saw it comin.

Scott

Oso - 4-19-2009 at 09:28 AM

Forgot the name, but there's a fairly good little restaurant behind the Miramar in San Felipe that put's a "free" shrimp in the neck of the bottle when you order a beer. Nice gesture, except that I'm allergic to shrimp.:(

Mexitron - 4-19-2009 at 09:47 AM

Ditto, Don Jorge! Another great time for Tecate is after surfing--the lime, salt and ocean water all work together and do their magic.

That friend of yours wouldn't be at a certain nursery would it...?

bajalou - 4-19-2009 at 10:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
Forgot the name, but there's a fairly good little restaurant behind the Miramar in San Felipe that put's a "free" shrimp in the neck of the bottle when you order a beer. Nice gesture, except that I'm allergic to shrimp.:(


Chuy's is the place I think you're talking about.

MitchMan - 4-19-2009 at 11:45 AM

Hard liquor, beer and wine, cigarettes…they all smell bad and taste terribly! That’s the truth. The draw is the psychological effect. We like the psychological effect so much, we fooled ourselves into believing that those things taste and
smell good.

Chemically, limes are acidic and tart in flavor, ethanol alcohol in liquor and beer and wine is chemically a “base” which is bitter in flavor. Adding lime juice to beer helps to chemically “neutralize” and diminish the “basicity” of the alcohol in a drink. Botta bing, botta boom!

I am glad to learn of all the other things that lime does for a drink.

In taste test after blind taste test, premium beers don’t do well in those honest tests.

I have been fishing Loreto since 1984. In those days, Corona was the “junk” beer and Heineken was expensive. When you signed up for a panga, they would ask you how many beers you wanted with your box lunch. If you didn’t specify a brand, you got Corona because it was the cheapest beer and therefore good for the panga guy’s bottom line. After Americans drank a lot of cheap Corona while in baja (it’s always been my theory that avid beer drinkers are just too cheap to pay for hard liquor), they started ordering it in the USA because they were now familiar with that brand and it would remind them of the good times in Baja. Well, we Americans being profit oriented, the new demand was met with higher prices and before long, stupid cheap corona beer became a premium brand and no longer cheap and Heineken has become cheaper. Corona tastes the same now as it did in 1984.

Also, the flavor of things we eat and drink has a lot to do with the chemistry of your mouth at any given point in time and the mood you are in. A lot. That’s why the nonsense surrounding drinking expensive wines is so silly…you know, the color, the smell, the clarity, the region, etc., etc., etc.

Let’s drop the self-delusion. Drink wine like the Italians and drink the wine, not the label like the French and the Americans do. If you pay more than $15 a bottle, you are paying too much for wine. If you drink mixed drinks, don’t use premium brands of liquor, use the lower costing stuff. Get real, drop the ego, and save money…you’ll be able to afford more booze that way.

dtbushpilot - 4-19-2009 at 12:21 PM

I say "drink it all and let your liver sort it out"....dt

Cypress - 4-19-2009 at 12:32 PM

If they give me a lime with a beer, good, if not, it's still good.:bounce:

Bob H - 4-19-2009 at 12:46 PM

Mitch-MAD-man... where did you learn all of that stuff? You have way too much time on your hands and a very intelligent brain to go along with it.
Bob H:tumble::spingrin::smug:

DENNIS - 4-19-2009 at 12:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
(it’s always been my theory that avid beer drinkers are just too cheap to pay for hard liquor



Not me. I sincerely enjoy the taste of some beers....not all. As far as the hard liquor is concerned, I'd rather spend an afternoon on the beach in Baja with a handful of ice cold beer than a glass of vodka.

BajaGringo - 4-19-2009 at 01:16 PM

When my dad's family came over on the boat from Germany via England in the last century, a few of the family members headed south across the border to Mexico. As brewmeisters they had been recruited to help start new breweries being built down in Chihuahua and Jalisco, I believe. The family lost contact with them in the 1930's but I am trying to fill in that part of the family tree with some limited success. My dad was a chemist and an amateur brewer himself. He hated folks putting limes in their beers and insisted it killed the taste that had been carefully brewed. His idea was that if you needed a lime to help the taste you needed to look for a different beer.

Flies? My old man would have told you to just keep a fly swatter handy...

Bob H - 4-19-2009 at 01:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo
Flies? My old man would have told you to just keep a fly swatter handy...


NO... who wants a dead fly in their beer. I only use the lime to wet the top of the beer bottle - to repel flies and any disease they may pass on. Flies love beer! (so they can't be all that bad...)

I was in a fly infested place, drinking my Pacifico and my buddy challenged me on the "fly repelling theory" of a lime. Step 1: I put a fresh cut lime on top of the napkin holder and the flies never touched it. They were landing on the mouth of our beer bottles, two or three at a time. Step 2: I put the lime juice on top of the beer bottle and they would not set down on them after that. He was amazed... So, it works.

My thinking is... if the beer tastes bad, put the lime IN the beer, otherwise just juice the mouth of the beer with the lime.
Bob H

BajaGringo - 4-19-2009 at 01:40 PM

I hear you Bob, but when my dad popped a cap off the beer he rarely put it down before finishing it. Beer was something you drink, not "savor" as he would say...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now a good martini is a different story! But we'll save that for a different thread...

BajaWarrior - 4-19-2009 at 02:36 PM

I do enjoy a small wedge of lime in my Pacificos from time to time. Especially from my own Mexican Lime Tree... This tree is very happy!

Edit for: Hard to see the fruit, beleive me, it's loaded!

[Edited on 4-19-2009 by BajaWarrior]

r.MexiLime.JPG - 48kB

Bajahowodd - 4-19-2009 at 02:53 PM

Not to mention that in recent years, Mexican beer has suffered a double-whammy. Major international corporations like AB, have assumed control of major Mexican brewers. And, they have lowered the alcohol content of all the beers. (and the booze, too.)

Howard - 4-19-2009 at 03:23 PM

I never believe anything from a stranger.

With that it mind, I will be in Loreto next Sunday and the first thing I will do is experiment with what you said. It might take 5 or 6 beers to make a clear evaluation. Naturally, this will be done for scientific purposes. I shall report with my findings as I want to be a giver to this forum.

David K - 4-19-2009 at 04:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaWarrior
I do enjoy a small wedge of lime in my Pacificos from time to time. Especially from my own Mexican Lime Tree... This tree is very happy!

Edit for: Hard to see the fruit, beleive me, it's loaded!

[Edited on 4-19-2009 by BajaWarrior]


I can testify that they are excellent limes!:bounce::P

MitchMan - 4-19-2009 at 05:15 PM

For Bob H:
Yes, I do have too much time on my hands. No, I'm not intelligent, just average, but I pay attention to detail. I have done alot of different things professionally, but all I want to do now is fish for Dorado and Cabrilla, barbecue and eat, and not have to be any place for an appontment, not owe anybody any money, and just talk only to nice people.

[Edited on 4-20-2009 by MitchMan]

fishingmako - 4-19-2009 at 08:33 PM

I see a lot of opinions all over the board here on beers, I personally think it is a matter of choice, I like a lot of different kinds of beers, and I personally like Corona as well as pacifico etc. etc. I really don't think it is fair to say that beer sucks and that one sucks, It is what you like, talk about marketing ploy, look at BUDWEISER, why is this beer sooooooo popular? There is nothing that can compare to MICRO BREWS, can you imagine if someone could get something like that going down here in Mexico, I'm thinking seriously about it? brewing my own beer on the site, do you think I may have some takers.

Oso - 4-20-2009 at 08:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajalou
Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
Forgot the name, but there's a fairly good little restaurant behind the Miramar in San Felipe that put's a "free" shrimp in the neck of the bottle when you order a beer. Nice gesture, except that I'm allergic to shrimp.:(


Chuy's is the place I think you're talking about.


Yep, that's it. Pretty good seafood. Wish I could eat the shrimp.

vandenberg - 4-20-2009 at 09:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by fishingmako
MICRO BREWS, can you imagine if someone could get something like that going down here in Mexico, I'm thinking seriously about it? brewing my own beer on the site, do you think I may have some takers.


Lots of takers as long as you give it away.:biggrin::biggrin:

Bob H - 4-20-2009 at 09:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
... all I want to do now is fish for Dorado and Cabrilla, barbecue and eat, and not have to be any place for an appontment, not owe anybody any money, and just talk only to nice people.


Now, that's my style!
Bob H

Cypress - 4-20-2009 at 01:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan
For Bob H:
Yes, I do have too much time on my hands. No, I'm not intelligent, just average, but I pay attention to detail. I have done alot of different things professionally, but all I want to do now is fish for Dorado and Cabrilla, barbecue and eat, and not have to be any place for an appontment, not owe anybody any money, and just talk only to nice people
[Edited on 4-20-2009 by MitchMan]
And only talk to nice people.:bounce:

motoged - 4-20-2009 at 04:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MitchMan

Chemically, limes are acidic and tart in flavor, ethanol alcohol in liquor and beer and wine is chemically a “base” which is bitter in flavor. Adding lime juice to beer helps to chemically “neutralize” and diminish the “basicity” of the alcohol in a drink.


MM,
The word you are looking for is "alkaline" rather than "basicity" (which is not a real word).

Also, beer rates as an alkaline substance...Google says so....

Next set of theories?

DEVEAU - 4-20-2009 at 04:18 PM

Somebody needs to get some Litmus paper, sit down someplace where there access to an assortment of Adult beverages and do some serious research. Please report back soon!

DENNIS - 4-20-2009 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged


Also, beer rates as an alkaline substance...Google says so....

Next set of theories?


I don't think so. Beer is hyper-acidic. Using 7 as PH balanced with anything above being alkaline and anything below being acidic....beer is 2.5. Way down there.
Run it through Google again.
"Beer...acid or alkaline"

motoged - 4-20-2009 at 08:05 PM

Dennis,
I was wrong....you are correct that beer is in the acidic range of a PH scale....some beers are rated at a ph of 4.0...

http://www.simplegreen.com/pdfs/ph_scale.pdf

MM,
I was wrong ...."basicity" is a word.....

I will crawl back into my cave in humility

:no:

DENNIS - 4-21-2009 at 06:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
....some beers are rated at a ph of 4.0...



Thanks, Ged......I suppose some are higher than others. I have a PH meter so I'll take the burden of proof as mine and give it a test....today.

Heather - 4-21-2009 at 10:34 AM

Just did a pH lab with my Chemistry students. Didn't test any beer, but soda was slightly acidic! They could bring samples in to test, so had quite a variety. I wouldn't let them test any, "body fluids", though...you'd be surprised at what they'd like to know the pH of!! Saludos, H.

DENNIS - 4-21-2009 at 11:19 AM

I just measured a Tecate Lite [don't ask] and it showed 2.4

shari - 4-21-2009 at 11:23 AM

ah Motog...i LOVE a man who apologized and then crawls into his cave!!!!! Price of tecate just went up to 53 pesos a 6 pack. Dennis, can you please measure a normal tecate...this is an important thread.

vandenberg - 4-21-2009 at 11:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by shari
ah Motog...i LOVE a man who apologized and then crawls into his cave!!!!! Price of tecate just went up to 53 pesos a 6 pack. Dennis, can you please measure a normal tecate...this is an important thread.


Shari,
How do you want it measured...going in or coming out.:biggrin:

DENNIS - 4-21-2009 at 11:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by shari
Dennis, can you please measure a normal tecate...this is an important thread.


Sure thing. Wait 'till I go next door and get one from my neighbor. Be right back........

DENNIS - 4-21-2009 at 11:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by vandenberg
How do you want it measured...going in or coming out.:biggrin:



At the "return the loan" end a normal PH will be 6.8
That would support a healthy system. It all actually means something.

DENNIS - 4-21-2009 at 11:39 AM

Jeezo...I thought I posted this. Too much testing.
Red can Tecate measures 2.4 as well.

motoged - 4-21-2009 at 02:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by shari
ah Motog...i LOVE a man who apologized and then crawls into his cave!!!!!


:saint: Shari,
I have been well trained (some would say "whipped") to acknowledge when I am wrong....it's not really that difficult as I hardly ever have to do it....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Cypress - 4-21-2009 at 03:04 PM

Have enjoyed many brands of beer. Tecate? Leaves sort-of-a sour taste in my mouth and unsettles my stomach. Weird? I'd call it just a downright nasty brew. And I have what's called a "caste iron" stomach.

shari - 4-21-2009 at 03:25 PM

thanks for your time Dennis...at both ends
cypress...this happens when i mix tecate products with Pacifico products...i must say, i prefer the taste of Tecate over all...but love negra modelo too...
so if the PH is so low....does this mean it is good to use lime?? balances things out?

elgatoloco - 4-21-2009 at 03:35 PM

I like Tecate with Clamato and Lime on a hot deserted beach. It includes multiple food groups and makes for well balanced diet. If you serve me some Pacifico I will drink that too. Dos Equis dark is good too. I can drink a Corona if it's available. I use lime with just about everything, we have a mexican lime tree in the back yard and we use the stuff liberally on food and drink. When we are home we lean toward local handcrafted beers when in Mexico we roll with the flow and drink what's cold and at hand.

To each his own. :dudette:

Cypress - 4-21-2009 at 03:45 PM

shari. Yea, I probably mixed tecate with other stuff. Negro Modelo! My favorite.:bounce: No upset stomach.:D

DENNIS - 4-21-2009 at 04:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by shari

so if the PH is so low....does this mean it is good to use lime?? balances things out?



No. Not really. The volume differential makes a quarter lime, squeezed into a bottle or glass of beer, negligible.
There are other ways to elevate the alkaline content in the system.....most simple and accesible would be a spoon of baking soda mixed with water.
If one wants to attain the good PH balance in the system, it's nesessary to have the testing tools at hand. It's a method that doesn't stand up with guess-work.

Bajahowodd - 4-21-2009 at 04:28 PM

And the PH of Clamato is.......?

EnseNADAslim - 4-21-2009 at 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by lofty
I heard it had to do with the smell that was being produced in clear bottles. If a clear bottle sat in the hot sun it would get a bad odor, by putting the lime in it would disguise the smell. This was quit some time ago, but i believe the practice has stuck.


Yes, don't drink Corona! However, Sol is in a clear bottle and doesn't stink like Corona?

Oh well... Pacifico is muy bueno... XX, too! In fact, it tastes great on tap... Pacifico wasn't available, but XX was for our newly aquired kegerator!:bounce::cool::light:


David is on track,,,Corona is pee water, the Coors of Mexico. Pacifico and XX for sure, and if you can find it XX amber.

The subject is a good to ponder, but hey, they put limes on everything, think about it, Tacos, fish, watermelon, Carne Asada... And the list goes on.

Bajahowodd - 4-21-2009 at 11:00 PM

Alas, since the major international brewers took control of the process, just about any of the Mexican beers mentioned is no where close to what they once were. Salud!

Bob H - 4-22-2009 at 08:32 AM

I am a Pacifico man when it comes to Mexican beer, but I DO like the big bottles of Corona Familiar... anyone have any comments on that beer? And, why is it so different than the regular Corona, which I do not like (but will do in a pinch).
Bob H

[Edited on 4-22-2009 by Bob H]

Heather - 4-22-2009 at 09:03 AM

If beer is acidic adding the lime would make it more acidic. Acids have a sour taste, so that goes along with the beer tasting sour. Tomatoes are also fairly acidic so again, no neutralization happens when you ad the clamato.

As Dennis says adding a base, like baking soda, would help to neutralize the acidicity of the beer. Most bases are soaps and detergents, so wouldn't be too good to add those to the beer!

I guess we just like acididic tastes; soda, coffee, citrus fruits, all acids.

Oh yea, back to the beer...I bought a case of Bud Lite w/ Lime already in it last night, not bad for 100 calories! Saludos, H.

David K - 4-22-2009 at 09:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Heather
If beer is acidic adding the lime would make it more acidic. Acids have a sour taste, so that goes along with the beer tasting sour. Tomatoes are also fairly acidic so again, no neutralization happens when you ad the clamato.

As Dennis says adding a base, like baking soda, would help to neutralize the acidicity of the beer. Most bases are soaps and detergents, so wouldn't be too good to add those to the beer!

I guess we just like acididic tastes; soda, coffee, citrus fruits, all acids.

Oh yea, back to the beer...I bought a case of Bud Lite w/ Lime already in it last night, not bad for 100 calories! Saludos, H.


Hi Heather!

Somebody is mixed up about beer ph... Motoged has it right, however.

From Motoged in this thread, above: "Also, beer rates as an alkaline substance...Google says so...."

The lime is acidic and counters/ balances a beer's bitter or alkaline taste...

DENNIS - 4-22-2009 at 10:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Heather
If beer is acidic adding the lime would make it more acidic.



Maybe not. I think beer is more acidic than lime although one wouldn't think so.

Again, Google "beer.....acid or alkaline" and all sorts of tables will be offered for comparison.

DENNIS - 4-22-2009 at 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Somebody is mixed up about beer ph... Motoged has it right, however.



If that reference was to me, David...I have an expensive PH meter and I'm only going by what it tells me. That beer is highly acidic is shown in the many tables available by going to Google and.....you know the rest.

DENNIS - 4-22-2009 at 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Bob H
And, why is it so different than the regular Corona, which I do not like (but will do in a pinch).
Bob H




Maybe it's the clear bottle, Bob. Remember Miller Hi Life? I think it had the same negative reaction from the public.

TheColoradoDude - 4-22-2009 at 12:10 PM

I got the tour the Pacifo Brewery in Mazatlan a couple years ago. I had my own private tour. They take you right out on the floor which was awesome. I was able to see the whole bottling process from recycling the cardboard case containers to the finished product. What was amazing to me was this room they had filled with thousands of bottles and these tiny little monkeys. The monkeys are about the size of a quarter and they are from Costa Rica. I guess there job is to crawl into the bottles and push the limes back out. I almost didn't believe it at first. It was pretty cool!
:cool:

DENNIS - 4-22-2009 at 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by TheColoradoDude
What was amazing to me was this room they had filled with thousands of bottles and these tiny little monkeys. The monkeys are about the size of a quarter and they are from Costa Rica. I guess there job is to crawl into the bottles and push the limes back out. I almost didn't believe it at first. It was pretty cool!
:cool:


They used to hire Guatamalans to do that but, they formed a union and were tossed out.
Is the beer garden still in operation at the brewery? What a trip that was in the sixties.

TheColoradoDude - 4-22-2009 at 12:30 PM

Ya know it must be gone, or I just didn't see it. Do you have any photos?

DENNIS - 4-22-2009 at 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by TheColoradoDude
Ya know it must be gone, or I just didn't see it. Do you have any photos?


No...It's so long ago I'm not sure the camera had been invented. If it was still there, you would know it. It was like a half square mile of beer drinkers, countless Mariachi bands and a great time. Pacifico was next to free and they just kept it coming. In those days, you could buy a bottle of beer in a bar for one Peso...8 cents. <<sigh>>

Cypress - 4-22-2009 at 01:08 PM

I'll just open a cool one and toast good times. Don't need a PH meter to enjoy a good brew.:D

DENNIS - 4-22-2009 at 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
I'll just open a cool one and toast good times. Don't need a PH meter to enjoy a good brew.:D


That's for sure. Who started all this PH stuff anyway?

bajaguy - 4-22-2009 at 03:30 PM

Not to Hi-Jack.....(well, not much, but it is about beer)

There was a post on the US/Mexican bank thread by Hook that there is now a Pacifico Light......has anybody in Baja more specifically Ensenada seen it yet, and if so, where???

TheColoradoDude - 4-22-2009 at 03:45 PM

I saw Pacifico light in 8 pack cans at the Modelorama in Bahia Asuncion. I thougth I saw them at the OXXO in Ensenada but maybe not.

[Edited on 4-22-2009 by TheColoradoDude]

bajaguy - 4-22-2009 at 03:48 PM

Now all I need is a taste test report!!!!:tumble:

TheColoradoDude - 4-22-2009 at 03:51 PM

Well I am not that picky so I am not a good person for that. I know that not a single one was thrown out. I liked them. I do like drinking out of a bottle though. Something I have always enjoyed ever since I was born.

bajaguy - 4-22-2009 at 03:53 PM

I am waiting for the "expert" opinion......Dennis????...where are you????

DENNIS - 4-23-2009 at 06:33 AM

I'll look into this. Yep....This requires serious investigation. I mean....is nothing sacred anymore?

David K - 4-23-2009 at 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Somebody is mixed up about beer ph... Motoged has it right, however.



If that reference was to me, David...I have an expensive PH meter and I'm only going by what it tells me. That beer is highly acidic is shown in the many tables available by going to Google and.....you know the rest.


Thanks Dennis... I guess the reason beer tastes good is not logical?!! :lol::light:

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