My daughter in law Patty is Mexican American (born on St. Patrick's Day). Her mother is a Mexican citizen living in Las Cruces New Mexico where Patty
was born and raised. She speaks fluent, conversational Spanish as that was what was spoken at home when she was growing up. She is interested in
getting dual citizenship and was hoping that there would be a fast track or simpler procedure for her since her mother is a Mexican citizen. I
promised her that my Nomad brethren would have an answer or advise. Any input would be appreciated........well, almost any.....dt
I should have included that Patty is an American citizen
[Edited on 6-17-2009 by dtbushpilot]DENNIS - 6-17-2009 at 01:47 PM
Yep...She, by her mothers birth in Mexico, qualifies for citizenship. I have a couple of friends who have done the same thing. There is a small,
simple procedure but, you'd be better off finding that from someone who knows all about it.bajalorena - 6-17-2009 at 01:48 PM
Patty should go to the nearest Mexican Consulate to Las Cruces and inquire. They will be able to give her the latest information. She should probably
have both her birth certificate "and" her mother's in hand.lingililingili - 6-17-2009 at 02:18 PM
Patty can also see an attorney as I did and he will handle it for her. I was told I qualified by "sangrinidad" (blood). Very simple procedure for
me. Sure makes buying property easier.gnukid - 6-17-2009 at 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by dtbushpilot
My daughter in law Patty is Mexican American (born on St. Patrick's Day). Her mother is a Mexican citizen living in Las Cruces New Mexico where Patty
was born and raised. She speaks fluent, conversational Spanish as that was what was spoken at home when she was growing up. She is interested in
getting dual citizenship and was hoping that there would be a fast track or simpler procedure for her since her mother is a Mexican citizen. I
promised her that my Nomad brethren would have an answer or advise. Any input would be appreciated........well, almost any.....dt
I should have included that Patty is an American citizen
[Edited on 6-17-2009 by dtbushpilot]
She needs to make an appointment with an office of exterior affairs (SRE) and bring her documents to that appointment, her birth certificate and proof
of her mothers original citizenship as Mexican and fill out the form and make the payment.
There is no requirement for a lawyer, silly.
She can browse here for more info, the requirements and forms here.
Gnukid: I know, I know. For some people (like me) it is just easier to have someone else do all the running around and paperwork. I weigh what it
will cost to "have it done" versus "doing it" and go from there!
Just a tip, she will have to have her birth certificate "translated" into Spanish for the process, don't waste your money in the U.S. you will just
have to do it again here.bajalorena - 6-17-2009 at 03:17 PM
Before coming to Mexico to SRE, she should check with the Consulate, she may not have to come here to do it. My husband did it through the Consulate
in San Jose, Ca, but that was 15 years ago. They will direct her.gnukid - 6-17-2009 at 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by lingililingili
Gnukid: I know, I know. For some people (like me) it is just easier to have someone else do all the running around and paperwork. I weigh what it
will cost to "have it done" versus "doing it" and go from there!
Just a tip, she will have to have her birth certificate "translated" into Spanish for the process, don't waste your money in the U.S. you will just
have to do it again here.
The SRE office is like 2km from your house. But yes a lawyer can do it for you.
To me, becoming a mexican and doing it on your own is the greatest experience one could pursue.
But yeah I am sure its a time consuming hassle. Sounds fun to me though! Ariba. Viva Mexico! Andele! Dar mi una bandera y tequila por favor!capt. mike - 6-17-2009 at 04:11 PM
Dt - my partner here in AZ is doing it now, his wife is. she is hispanic born in USA but of mexican nationals from Obregon, age 50 or so.
she wants dual citizenry for our business purposes.
contact me off board and i'll get you his contact if you'd like to talk to him. he is a piloto and BBP member too.Bajahowodd - 6-17-2009 at 04:16 PM
For what it's worth, although it really doesn't matter in the cases cited above, the United States does not recognize dual citizenship. But, again, in
your cases, who cares?gnukid - 6-17-2009 at 04:23 PM
Isn't there some way to work Fishbuck, a vacation in Mexico and tequila into this thread? er.
Let's get focused! Anyway felicidades a Ella, La Pattini the soon-to-be MEXICANA!gnukid - 6-17-2009 at 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
For what it's worth, although it really doesn't matter in the cases cited above, the United States does not recognize dual citizenship. But, again, in
your cases, who cares?
You had to go there, again...Bajahowodd - 6-17-2009 at 04:29 PM
Touche, amigo.Oso - 6-17-2009 at 06:39 PM
A minor detail here... As I recall from awhile back when the law changed, we're not talking about Mexican "citizenship" but rather Mexican
"nationality". The Mexican govt. considers any Mexican a Mexican forever, even if they become a citizen of another country they retain Mexican
nationality and their children, even if born abroad, can obtain Mexican nationality.
The difference? Not much. With Mexican nationality one can work in Mexico, own property on the beach and do just about anything a citizen can EXCEPT
vote.
and once again... Who cares?gnukid - 6-17-2009 at 06:55 PM
Ella es Mexicana. Ella va a votar. She is going to be Citizen. A gringo would be Nationalized. Argh.
And since you bring up the issue with Bajawho, though irrelevant, yes Americans may also obtain foreign citizenship and still vote there though not
always here in MX, pero Ella no es gringa she can vote in both countries, I am surmising from the third hand post of her father-in-law.
And, ergh, Our current US administration is made up of a large portion of people who maintain dual citizenship with Israel, voting in both countries,
while Obama...Bajahowodd - 6-17-2009 at 11:46 PM
I'm smelling something here. And, I'm done and out. Shalom!baitcast - 6-18-2009 at 06:16 AM
Dt you ask for a little help and now suffer from info overload,very neat.
Robdtbushpilot - 6-18-2009 at 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by baitcast Dt you ask for a little help and now suffer from info overload,very neat.
Rob
Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate all the answers and suggestions.
Now my question is: If my son's wife is a Mx citizen is there a fast track for him to become a citizen too? If he were a MX citizen would there be a
fast track for dear old dad to become one? I know this is a reach but worth asking even at the risk of being made fun of.......dtBajaGringo - 6-18-2009 at 09:06 AM
Your son can get his citizenship after registering the marriage in Mexico and a 24 month wait period.
Does she have a sister you could marry???
dtbushpilot - 6-18-2009 at 09:11 AM
Yes, she has several that were all born in Mexico. She and her brother are the only children that were born in the states. My beautiful wife Jill
would probably have an issue with me marrying one of her sisters........maybe I can introduce Fishbuck to one of them....dtgnukid - 6-18-2009 at 09:21 AM
You can go here and find out the answer to any questions.
And remember laws change so asking on a forum will likely only get old news, not the current or new info.
That said, both you and he can be nationalized over time, you would need to follow the fm-2, 5 year plan, plus speak spanish and know the history and
take exam, or you might qualify via the special contributor to culture and national contribution route which is similar though with less than 5 years.
Or you could fly to DF with a bag of gold.
Your son will be eligible by marriage plus time in mexico with a fm-2 or possibly fm-3, language skills, history knowledge etc...
Here's is one lawyers listed requirements for nationalization by marriage (but its 2 years old old and likely out of date)
C. MEXICAN SPOUSE
In this case, the applicant must.
1. Evidence that the applicant’s spouse has Mexican nationality by origin or by naturalization by presenting (i) certified copy of the marriage
certificate; (ii) original and copy of the spouse’s official Mexican ID and naturalization card or birth certificate. If the applicant was married to
a Mexican citizen in another country, then the Marriage Certificate shall be recorded in the Mexican Civil Registry within the following 6 months to
your marriage in able to obtain a Mexican Marriage Certificate.
2. Evidence that the applicant and his/her spouse have been married at least two years before filing the application. This must be proved with the
Mexican Marriage Certificate and with an affidavit signed by the Mexican spouse.
3. Evidence that the applicant has lived in Mexico for at least 24 months, legally and continuously with a FM-3 or a FM-2. You may not be out of the
Country for more than 180 days of the 24 months immediately prior to filing for the application.
4. Complete and sign the application form, including his personal data.
5. Submit his original FM-3 or FM-2, which must be current for at least six months before submitting your application (e.g. if you apply for
citizenship on January 1, your FM must be valid at least until July 1). The Authority inspects the original and keeps only a copy.
6. List all entries and exits from Mexico during the 24 months prior to the date of application.
7. Present original and current foreign passport and copies thereof (the original is inspected and only copy is kept by the Authority).
8. Present two color and passport-sized photos. No glasses or hats may be worn.
9. Pay a filing fee: of $1,130.00 pesos (approximately $100 US dollars)
10. Evidence that you can speak Spanish, that you know Mexican history and that you are integrated into the national culture, and for this you must
take and pass a test applied by the Institute“Matias Romero” of the Foreign Affairs Department.dtbushpilot - 6-18-2009 at 11:56 AM
Good info gnukid, thanks....dtrobrt8 - 6-18-2009 at 07:46 PM
Has anyone here fulfilled the two-year residency requirement for a direct descendant and received citizenship/inmigrado status?
Thanks for any info.
Dt you ask for a little help and now suffer from info overload,very neat.