BajaNomad

Language School

tim40 - 6-21-2004 at 09:00 AM

Wife and 2 daughters are interested in spending 1-2 weeks (possibly 2, 1 week sessions) in a spanish emersion program. Looking for a formal program with either very small classes or private for the 3 of them. Locations are optional, but I believe they are a # in Rosarito, Ensenada, and La Paz. This will be for this summer in later July til mid August time frame. Any specific advice/referrals would be greatly appreciated. Tim

tim40 - 6-21-2004 at 09:02 AM

Should have added that daughters have had minimal spanish (wife less) but all have traveled Baja and mainland a great deal. Daughters are 11 and 13.

Would they be interested in

jrbaja - 6-21-2004 at 09:10 AM

living with a family in the hills around La Paz? It would probably involve them helping to make candy and empanadas, and all other aspects of rancho life.
They are a wonderful family.

Skeet/Loreto - 6-21-2004 at 10:49 AM

You might be able to make contact with the Boarding School in Loreto. That would be an excellent place to have the children emmersed with the children and learn Spanish that is used in and around Loreto as well as the Mountains villages.

Anytime that you can be involved directly gives you many more benefits.

My Daughter speaks "Castallian" {sp} and had diffculty being understood by the eveyday Mexicano around Loreto, until she had switched to the"Slang Version" spoken by most of the olders Mexicanos.

Skeet/Loreto

"In God I Trust"

tim40 - 6-21-2004 at 04:45 PM

Jr, if I was able to go, they would love to participate and learn in that fashion. Very much so in line with other service activities they (we) have participated in. Without me, they would not be comfortable.

Skeet: love the Loreto idea, but as much as we like the area it is too hot at that time of year in our opinion even more so than La Paz. But will keep that great idea in mind for one of our other many trips their throughout the year.

For this time, really looking for a formal language emersion course. All ideas/references are greatly appreciated. Tim

Tim, I know there is one in Ensenada

Debra - 6-21-2004 at 04:50 PM

David, Keri?

BajaNomad - 6-21-2004 at 04:59 PM

I have previously mentioned this school in Ensenada:

http://www.bajacal.com/

Talk to Keith.

--
Doug

tim40 - 6-21-2004 at 08:02 PM

Thank you Doug and Debra. We will check it out. Doug it appears that you may know them , any insight?

Others in La Paz or Rosarito?


Margie - 6-21-2004 at 08:13 PM

The one in Ensenada looks good, but pricey. The State University, before you get into Ensenada proper used to have Spanish classes during the summer, at a minimal cost. I could make some calls for you, if you'd like.

I don't know of any in Rosarito, unless they would be private.

Margie

Debra - 6-21-2004 at 08:21 PM

I don't think that is the one I've seen recommended here......If Keri pops in I'm sure she can explaine.

Markitos - 6-21-2004 at 08:53 PM

Theres a class put on at Marina De La Paz for the gringo boater folks . I think they can also hook you up with an emmersed set up.

Baja California Language College

David K - 6-21-2004 at 11:01 PM

is the place Debra! Doug put up the link http://bajacal.com This is the school where you live in Ensenada with a local family (optional, but best) when not in school, and really learn fast! The school is owned by Keith, a good person.

BajaNomad - 6-21-2004 at 11:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tim40
Doug it appears that you may know them , any insight?
I have NOT been a client yet, but did recently discuss sending one or more of my teens down there with him.

The occasional feedback that I read/hear is good.

I've known Keith for some time now, and have no hesitation in referring those interested in such a program that way.

Here's more about Keith from an article by book author Ann Hazard:

Quote:
The most unique way to visit Ensenada, however, and to get a true feel for its people, culture and lifestyle, is to take a learning vacation. The Baja California Language College (Colegio de Idiomas de Baja California) is located here, and a week of study can drastically improve your Spanish. It was founded by Minnesotan Keith Rolle in 1997, a former manager for Toro, the lawn mower superpower in Minneapolis. In his travels for Toro, he discovered that more and more people he did business with spoke Spanish. He was fluent in French, but that wasn?t doing him much good in Mexico or other parts of Latin America. He heard about a school in Ensenada that offered weeklong Spanish immersion programs and signed up for two weeks? worth. He enjoyed it so much that he went back for another three weeks. By then, he was hooked on Ensenada. He was also hooked on the idea of starting his own school.

He quit his high-paying job, started up a Mexican corporation and moved to San Diego, where he commutes back and forth to Ensenada. Keith has a team of six instructors, and another eight on standby who come in when a huge group of students shows up. The school?s philosophy is geared to getting students speaking Spanish?as soon as their first day in town. Combining small classes of no more than five students with a Mexican family home stay program, instructors use a combination of conversation, games, music, contests and outings around town to help students learn the language and culture.

Located in central Ensenada, within walking distance to everything, the Baja Language College attracts a variety of people with a need or passion to communicate in Spanish. There are business executives from the US, Canada and Europe, attorneys, doctors and human resource professionals. Seniors wanting to retire or travel in Mexico sign up. Teachers come with groups of students in the summer. Families come together during vacations. With Keith?s program, not only do you learn Spanish, but through immersion, you?ll become familiar with the Mexican culture. Once you?re able to actually talk to the Mexican people, you?ll find a whole new world opening up to you.

Keith has done an amazing job of integrating himself into the Ensenada community. I?m always impressed when I hang out with him. Everywhere we go, people know him. The bartenders in Hussongs joke and jive with him. He bowls every month with a group of local businessmen. They call him El Vikingo (the Viking?think football). Keith is difficult to pronounce in Spanish, so the locals just call him Kiki. He?s easy going, funny and smart as hell. He fits in and he?s the best advertisement around for the success of his immersion program. The Mexicans not only respect him, but they have a good time with him too. So do his students, many of whom have told me that their time at the school was as a blast?as much a vacation as a learning experience.

Keith?s program works so well because you eat, drink, dream and live in Spanish. Host families are selected for their friendliness, willingness to assist you with their studies, and for their superior accommodations. They?re all middle class families in comfortable homes with all the amenities Americans are accustomed to. The home stay cost is reasonable too?$25 per night per person, which includes meals. If you share a room or stay longer than five weeks, the cost is $20 per day. If you decide to bypass the home stay program, lodging is also offered at local condominiums RV parks and hotels.

Tuition for 30 hours a week (five days at six hours per day) is $245. Extra days cost $60 and weekend workshops cost $180 for a total of 13 hours. Private tutoring is available as well, for $90 per day for six hours or $445 per week. Executive immersion, requiring a two-week minimum, costs $690. Seniors, families and large groups can apply for special discounts.

School days are from 8:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Afternoons are free, so you can explore Ensenada and have some fun. Sign up. Show up, and you might just stumble onto one of Ensenada?s famous fiestas!

http://justsaygo.com/JustSayGo_Site/destinations/ensenada.ht...



Ann's own site is at:
http://www.bajamagic.com

fyi... for La Paz, I'm aware of this site online:
http://www.sehablalapaz.com

...but have no further knowledge/feedback.

Regards,
--
Doug Means

tim40 - 6-22-2004 at 09:10 AM

Thank you all so much for your time and knowledge. The book reference leaves me wanting to call in 'ill' for a couple of weeks...but then who would pay for the wife and the kids....

One last clarification please.

Margie, is what Doug shared the same that you were thinking of? Just to have something to compare with, I would appreciate a contact # of the University if you have one. Tim

Thanks David.....

Debra - 6-22-2004 at 01:28 PM

I wasn't sure Margie was talking about the same one that I've seen recommended by you and others so often.

Margie - 6-22-2004 at 03:53 PM

No, what I was talking about was the Universidad Autonoma de Baja California en Ensenada. We had a friend who used to teach Literature there.

This is the huge complex on the oceanside as you are entering Ensenada.

The program was in conjunction with San Diego State University, and the credits you received could be applied to SDSU. The cost, at that time, was $50.00 per week.

I'll need to get that Ensenada number for you, but in the meantime you could give SDSU Spanish Language Department a call and see if the classes are still offered, and here are some listings for UABC in TJ who might be able to direct you:

UABC - TJ :

Escuela de Idiomas:
011-52-664-683-3325

Recursos Humano:
011-52-664-682-0059

Universidad Servicios:
011-52-664-682-1068



[Edited on 6-22-2004 by Margie]

tim40 - 6-22-2004 at 04:28 PM

Thank you. We will try and make contact. Tim

Margie - 6-22-2004 at 04:35 PM

tim, try these sites:

Study Abroad In Mexico:

http://www.sa.sdsu.edu/isc/sites_mexico.htm#uabc

also,:

http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/~latamweb/autonoma.html


tim40 - 6-22-2004 at 09:17 PM

Thank you Margie...you are great!

6flora6 - 6-22-2004 at 09:26 PM

Se Habla... La Paz is also quite good. They offer really small classes and homestays, although I'm not sure if they cater to children. I am currently doing one of their programs. If you have any specific questions, I'd be happy to answer them. Here's their website: http://www.sehablalapaz.com/
Good Luck!

tim40 - 6-22-2004 at 09:41 PM

Thank you 6flora6. Can you tell me what you are taking? Group, private, in home, # of weeks, and who else appears to be taking lessons at the same time?

Greatly appreciate.

Margie - 6-22-2004 at 09:57 PM

La Paz sounds great too!! Here is the number for the Language Department at UABC, Ensenada:

011-52-646-1752296

In the past, you didn't have to be a registered student in the UC system, alot of folks went to these classes, but maybe now, the teachers went private.

Ok. good luck !

p.s. If I could afford it, the Keith thing sounds good too.



[Edited on 6-23-2004 by Margie]

6flora6 - 6-23-2004 at 12:50 PM

Tim,
I have signed up for 2 weeks although I may extend it. I believe there are currently 9 students enrolled. They do an assesment when you sign up and then group you with people of a similar level. I believe their classes are no larger than 4 or 5, although there are only 2 of us in my class (almost private lessons for the price of group!) Most of the students are Norte Americanos. Mostly twenty/thirtysomethings and teachers right now I presume because it is summer time and folks are out of school.
They really focus on getting you able to talk about things that are important to you (your job/hobbies/family/etc.) which is important I think. It gives you conversational skills that apply to your life.

tim40 - 6-23-2004 at 01:51 PM

Thank you Margi and 6Flora6. My wife is making the calls/inquiries now and hopes to have it all wrapped up by Friday. Looking at the last week of July & first week of Aug.

6Flora6, are you staying with a family? Would you also share a bit more towards then end? You can reach me at timclmoore at adelphia dot net if you prefer.

6flora6 - 6-23-2004 at 02:16 PM

Tim,
I live here in La Paz, so I am not doing a homestay. One of my classmates is however and has a pool - kinda makes me wish I was doing one... lol.

tim40 - 8-15-2004 at 04:00 PM

Wife and two daughters did attend the Se Habla La Paz Language School. For the week of August 2nd. Great addition to go with what they already had under their belt. The weekend prior we (the couple of days I was with them) stayed at Los Arcos (been staying there since I was a kid...just love that place...best tortilla soup we have ever found...and we do a lot of searching) and then the wife and girls moved to Club El Morro. Clean, safe, nice pool, and friendly helpful staff...the only real 'downer' was no in room phones...(If I would have been with them, this would not have been a concern). All 3; school and both hotels get a strong recommendation from us.

Quantos dinero?

capt. mike - 8-16-2004 at 05:48 AM

por escuela?

Markitos - 8-16-2004 at 07:00 AM

Old dogs new tricks? Every day I work with spanish speaking people. And when they realy start rambleing it still sounds like Japaness to me. After lord know how many years of trying to learn my brain still fades unless I'm one on one and my amigos habla muy despasio. What I need is to hit baja for a couple months and NOT speak ingles AT ALL. ;) I'd be forced to pay more attention And....... I'd be in Baja for a couple months!! Glad your trip turned out so well in La Paz the city of peace !

tim40 - 8-17-2004 at 10:33 AM

Mike, I will get you the details on both the school and the stay portions to include the flight to give the big picture....The short answer is I am only the working guy...and I will get it from Tracey.

tim40 - 8-17-2004 at 04:39 PM

Areo California r/t LAX - La Paz = 330pp
Hotel = 65/night (1 adult 2 children)
Group Class = 11.00pp
Private = 20/hour (discounted related to volume)

Misc food...who knows....