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UNITED STATES VS MEXICO----FOOTBALL

lizard lips - 7-26-2009 at 12:25 PM

The game just started and is the final----12:00 p.m. Pacific

GO USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vandenberg - 7-26-2009 at 01:05 PM

No score at halftime.
Pretty poor match, especially when I watched Barcelona yesterday. Mexico, with it's population and soccer being it's national sport, should be in the top 10 in the world and be able to beat the USA hands down. Somehow they always have problems in tournaments and the national team doesn't reflect their league teams. Wonder why ?

Spelling,grrr...

[Edited on 7-26-2009 by vandenberg]

Bajaboy - 7-26-2009 at 01:22 PM

In all fairness, the US and I think Mexico are playing their "B/C" teams. It's hard to get too excited about this year's Gold Cup.

DENNIS - 7-26-2009 at 01:29 PM

I'd be watching it at Sharky's but, I've learned from experience that being in a Mexican bar during a US/MEX matchup is not fun. These folks take it a lot more seriously than I do.
Anyway, Mexico just scored on a bogus penalty kick called by some half blind Biafrin referee. The game is fixed.

vandenberg - 7-26-2009 at 01:50 PM

They did come to life and are playing a better second half. Mexico that is.
4-0 in favor of Mexico as of this moment.
And that's a massacre in football speak.

[Edited on 7-26-2009 by vandenberg]

Bajaboy - 7-26-2009 at 01:56 PM

It will be fun to read about how great Mexico is after this game....and then reality will set in during World Cup qualifying returns....

estebanis - 7-26-2009 at 02:11 PM

ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!
0-5!!!! MEXICO
FINAL
USA MELTED DOWN IN SECOND HALF

lizard lips - 7-26-2009 at 02:15 PM

Good playng Mexico!

What really cracked me up prior to watching the game on Mex TV was how they played the 10 greatest upsets Mexico played against the US and all them was at least more than 30 years ago except for JC Chavez beating some American 15 years ago in a boxing match and of course they had to show Raul Ramirez beating Jimmy Conners, what 30 years ago? I play golf with Raul and he never speaks of it. It was his only highlight of his playing years.....

Your right Bajaboy----- They will play this like it was the Gold Cup win of the century but in actuality there is no way they can get close to the qualifying round of the big one.

Can't watch anymore..........

DENNIS - 7-26-2009 at 03:55 PM

Has the US ever played in a stadium where they were the crowd favorite? Just once?

Cypress - 7-26-2009 at 03:59 PM

They call that Football?:lol: Thought it was called soccer?:biggrin:

rts551 - 7-26-2009 at 04:14 PM

Dennis. You are so funny. Giants stadium.. New Jersey..... wake up

Edit for news quote

"Mexico exploded in the 2nd half to win its fifth Gold Cup title with a 5-0 thrashing of the U.S. at Giants Stadium."

[Edited on 7-26-2009 by rts551]

JESSE - 7-26-2009 at 05:58 PM

US didn´t play with its A team, but so didn´t Mexico. What surprised me is that Mexico´s coach seems to have studied the US brilliantly, usually Mexico attacks and attacks and the US waits and counters. This time Mexico waited, and waited, and Mexico countered. The US was at a complete loss as to what to do with a Mexican team playing in the same style they did. Its too early to tell, but the US is very good at counter attack and defence. But i have noticed that when other teams do the exact same, they simply can´t play because they don´t have the room to counter.

The world cup qualifier is going to be very interesting.

DENNIS - 7-26-2009 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
US didn´t play with its A team, but so didn´t Mexico.



I thought the Gold Cup was more prestigous than to not make a best effort. Sounds like everything is a tune-up for the World Cup.
Anyway, the US stunk up the joint today.

JESSE - 7-26-2009 at 06:12 PM

Gold Cup is ok, but only a warmup for the big one. The World Cup.

Bajaboy - 7-26-2009 at 08:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE
US didn´t play with its A team, but so didn´t Mexico.



I thought the Gold Cup was more prestigous than to not make a best effort. Sounds like everything is a tune-up for the World Cup.
Anyway, the US stunk up the joint today.


The US played their A- team at the Confederations Cup a month ago where they beat Spain and came a few minutes shy of beating Brazil for the championship. I'm not saying that the US is at the same caliber of play as those two teams on a consistent basis but they are far better than Mexico on most days. Today might as well been the Columbus Crew against the Mexican National team.

DENNIS - 7-26-2009 at 08:39 PM

I still don't understand why a team, especially in a Gold Cup final, wouldn't field it's best team. It cheats the team and the spectators.

BAJACAT - 7-26-2009 at 08:41 PM

DENNIS they want to keep the players healthy for the world cup

duke62 - 7-26-2009 at 10:27 PM

We had the B, no, C team. Still, embarrassing. We had only one possible starter from the U.S. team, Brian Ching. Mexico had five/six. It is the reality of sports in this era. Money. Many players have commitments to European clubs, even MLS. At the same time this game was being played, Landon Donovan was watching it from a hotel room. Oguchi Onyewu was playing for A.C. Milan (In the United States), cause he just got signed......

DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by duke62
We had the B, no, C team. Still, embarrassing. We had only one possible starter from the U.S. team, Brian Ching. Mexico had five/six. It is the reality of sports in this era. Money. Many players have commitments to European clubs, even MLS. At the same time this game was being played, Landon Donovan was watching it from a hotel room. Oguchi Onyewu was playing for A.C. Milan (In the United States), cause he just got signed......


The entire US organization should be drowning in shame. National team? More like national embarrassment.
Today, in this ugly world, we have an "A Team" giving it their all in grimey, senseless combat, getting their asses shot off as representitives of the USA. We should expect no less from these over-payed babies and their keepers. If this sports organization is going to represent me and all of the USA, I want their best effort. Agencies that are in place to guard the integrity of horse racing should have a look at this mess. It's not the US team but, more like the Wall Street team. Shame on them all.

CaboRon - 7-27-2009 at 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by Cypress
They call that Football?:lol: Thought it was called soccer?:biggrin:

Steve&Debby - 7-27-2009 at 08:00 AM

NFL = Football !!!!!
Soccer = A bunch of panzies running around a field kicking a little ball

lizard lips - 7-27-2009 at 08:59 AM

Ok, but here in Mexico they call it football- FOOT + BALL. GET IT?

JESSE - 7-27-2009 at 09:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve&;Debby
NFL = Football !!!!!
Soccer = A bunch of panzies running around a field kicking a little ball


The rest of the world see it like this:

NFL: A bunch of brutes running around hitting each other like wrestlers.

Soccer: A tactical game of style and skill, a passion.

DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 09:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JESSE

Soccer: A tactical game of style and skill, a passion.


That explaination applied to Sunday's game would be, "A crime of passion."

Excelent analisis

JESSE - 7-27-2009 at 09:19 AM

U.S., Mexico link growing stronger

Something strange happened in the closing minutes of the CONCACAF Gold Cup semifinal between the U.S. and Honduras last week in Chicago. A sizable portion of Mexican fans, clad in green jerseys and waiting for their team to play in the second semifinal, were definitely cheering for the U.S.

It reminded me of a question I once posed to Bruce Arena when he was the U.S. national-team coach. I asked him if he thought that one day, Mexico's fans living in the U.S. would cheer for the Americans.

He shot me a look of complete incredulity, as if I'd asked the timetable for when pigs would fly. "It won't happen in my lifetime," he noted dryly.

Au contraire. Granted, it was very likely these fans at Soldier Field wanted to see the U.S. advance so they could have the distinct pleasure of watching their favorite squad dismantle the Americans in the final. They got their wish, as Mexico claimed a comprehensive 5-0 win on Sunday.

What those supporters were clued into, however, was how interlinked the squads are, and it goes far beyond what happens on the field. To be sure, the rivalry between the two teams is epic. Mexico's first win over the U.S. on American soil in 10 years on Sunday is a welcome change from the previous trend, one that snaps the Americans out any complacency and sets the stage for an enticing clash in World Cup qualifying on Aug. 12 at the dreaded Azteca.

Mexico looked to be suffering a crisis of confidence lately, even going so far as to schedule that game vs. the U.S. in smog-filled afternoon instead of the traditional evening start time, a classic piece of gamesmanship. But it's a further look into how much these two teams need each other.

The symbiotic relationship of the rivalry goes deeper than the on-field action. Soccer programs in the U.S. end up collecting a good bit of funding from Mexico fans filling U.S. stadiums to watch El Tri play in friendlies or the Gold Cup. Many American-based companies, such as Coca-Cola, actually sponsor the Mexican national team.

Mexico City's Club América participated in the World Football Challenge against the likes of Chelsea and Inter Milan -- and the tournament was made possible because the U.S. hosted the event. The better Mexican clubs perform against international competition, the more meaningful it is when Major League Soccer club manage to defeat them in tournaments such as SuperLiga or the CONCACAF Champions League.

That's why periods of domination by either side are stultifying to what is actually a very satisfying continual dual between both squads for soccer supremacy. Though the overall record of 30 Mexico wins to 15 for the U.S. is clearly in El Tri's favor, the recent results are far more tilted in favor of the U.S.

The way Mexico and the U.S. more or less sliced though CONCACAF competition en route to Sunday's final makes it clear that without the other, there simply isn't enough quality to provide a consistent challenge. That's needed to provoke a team to analyze how to improve. Intense competition also helps provide valuable experience in the sort of battlefield conditions that will help both teams in the tournament that really matters: the World Cup.

By playing the U.S., Mexico gets to learn from confronting a squad that is disciplined defensively and very organized on set-pieces, characteristics of European teams that often have undone Mexico. The U.S., meanwhile, gets more familiar with the Latin style of play, featuring quick passes and darting runs.

After so many rounds of battle, with one heavyweight getting knocked down and then bouncing up again, the mutual respect between both sides has grown. It's a grudge match, sure, but one in which the winner is elated because the victory actually means something.

The players are well aware of this. The fans recognize it, too. It's not that surprising, then, that supporters on both sides hoped early on Mexico and the U.S. would meet in the Gold Cup final. They may not be the best of best friends. But these two CONCACAF brothers ultimately need each other.

Andrea Canales is chief editor of Goal.com North America.

http://tinyurl.com/nevw7q

BajaBruno - 7-27-2009 at 11:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaeng
Quote:
Originally posted by Steve&;Debby
NFL = Football !!!!!
Soccer = A bunch of panzies running around a field kicking a little ball


I almost said something similar to this yesterday, but I didn't want to get a dreaded "yellow card"


Oh no, that's definitely a red card in these parts!! :lol:

DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by JESSE

Excelent analisis




Well, maybe so but, you know the author is a Woman. :lol::lol:

Now...before all you Mohairs get excited, It was just a joke. :lol::lol: <-----See?

Steve&Debby - 7-27-2009 at 09:16 PM

Pardon me maam,
In Mexico I believe it is Futbol
What is a Fut :?::?::?::?:

Jesse,Sounds like a ballet.Maybe the Futbol ballarinas should wear little pink tu-tu's:lol::lol::lol::lol:

DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 09:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve&;Debby
What is a Fut



You tell me.

BajaGringo - 7-27-2009 at 10:09 PM

I became addicted to futbol as a teenager living in Argentina. It is something that you either get or you don't. I still have incredible memories of sitting in the stands to watch my very first Boca Juniors - River Plate match back in the early 70's; the Argentine equivalent of Chivas - America. I look forward to the World Cup more than anything else except perhaps the Masters at Augusta.

I agree with the analysis you posted Jesse...

duke62 - 7-28-2009 at 01:42 AM

Thank you Jesse y Baja Gringo. "The beautiful game." I was at the Rose Bowl last Tuesday to watch Chelsea v. Inter Milan. I love that stadium. 81,000 fans. Great game. Not as much fan craziness as Mexico v. Argentina at Petco (Can you say Mexican flag bikinis?)

My favorite shirt, at the Rose Bowl, was worn by a friend that just showed a football, and below it said, "Throw Ball."

Even though I played in high school & 1 year of college, my wife still hates the game, unless it is the Italian Serie A (She likes the Fabios), or Renaldo (the punk) ,or Beckham (the overpriced chump). But I digress....

LOSARIPES - 7-28-2009 at 09:05 AM

fut = foot = pie
bol = ball = bola/pelota
Hello..!?....

Incongruent?... well... try FOOTBALL.. a sport mostly played in the USA in which the ball is carried and thrown by hand..... rarely kicked.

Doesn't matter. 5-0 was great one way or the other. The USA has now cranked the "Green Mice" and it will be a little harder to stop them in the Azteca stadium.. it will be interesting.... Si Se Puede!!!

vandenberg - 7-28-2009 at 11:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Steve&;Debby
NFL = Football !!!!!
Soccer = A bunch of panzies running around a field kicking a little ball


Fishing !!!:no: No license needed.:biggrin::biggrin:

Better yet: Trolling !!:biggrin:

[Edited on 7-28-2009 by vandenberg]

irenemm - 7-28-2009 at 04:33 PM

Mexico and the U.S. did the U.S. even show up for that one? it was just to easy for the Mexican team to win against the U.S. even some of the Mexicans i was with though it was to easy . mordia yup someone got it. 5 -0 when has that ever happened? we can still do better in the world cup. let's wait and see
Go U.S.A.

DENNIS - 7-28-2009 at 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by irenemm
let's wait and see



We won't have long to wait. August 12, Azteca Stadium, Mexico City. USA/MEX
The US had better suit up some first stringers this time. Although Mexico had four or five starters in the game last Sunday, you can bet all will be playing in this one.
The US coach, Bradley, should be in the unemployment line. Sunday's lineup was his choice.

lizard lips - 8-12-2009 at 01:38 PM

There playing again right now 1:00 p.m. Wednesday in Mexico City and the score is tied 1 to 1 and Mexico looks really good. They have had control most of the first half.

Whoever loses does not qualify for the World Cup.

GO USA!

BajaGringo - 8-12-2009 at 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by lizard lips
There playing again right now 1:00 p.m. Wednesday in Mexico City and the score is tied 1 to 1 and Mexico looks really good. They have had control most of the first half.

Whoever loses does not qualify for the World Cup.

GO USA!


Actually the US does not need to win this game to qualify...

DENNIS - 8-12-2009 at 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by lizard lips
good. They have had control most of the first half.

Whoever loses does not qualify for the World Cup.

GO USA!


I thought qualifying just started. How can you lose just one and be out?

lizard lips - 8-12-2009 at 02:33 PM

Thanks Gringo. Shows you how much I know about the game!

What if Mexico loses?

BajaGringo - 8-12-2009 at 02:47 PM

Mexico just scored - it's 2-1 Mexico right now. Mexico really needs these points to improve its position in the qualifying standings...

Cypress - 8-12-2009 at 02:55 PM

Have played both Soccer and North American Football. Didn't need any pads/flack jackets for playing soccer. Got kicked in the shin a time or two.:biggrin: But it was a lot easier than getting hit, forearmed, elbowed, and subjected to every other sort of bodily insult that comes with playing "real" football.:yes:.

BajaGringo - 8-12-2009 at 02:55 PM

Game is over - Mexico wins 2-1.

squid - 8-12-2009 at 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Have played both Soccer and North American Football. Didn't need any pads/flack jackets for playing soccer. Got kicked in the shin a time or two.:biggrin: But it was a lot easier than getting hit, forearmed, elbowed, and subjected to every other sort of bodily insult that comes with playing "real" football.:yes:.


What please is 'real' football'?
Is that the game the Gringo's play in their country and just call it football?
They are playing it with the hands > not the foot.
The ball is not a ball but kinda like a banana.
And if you don't hold the banana in your hands to play """american football""", they are kicking the other guys but? They call it Sport!
And, how funny, the goal is in the second or third floor :lol::lol::lol::lol:
And b/c they had no clou how to play 'real football' they just called their funny game football.
No other country in the world calls a game which is played with the hands >>>> football.

woody with a view - 8-12-2009 at 07:20 PM

yeah squid, the US sucks at football. when was the last time mexico beat spain and dominated brasil for 45 minutes back to back? i'll bet you a box of your favorite beer that the US goes farther than mexico in the next "copa mundial".

enjoy the win.

what is gonna happen IF the US ever wins in azteca stadium? i'll bet, double or nothing, that there will be blood in the streets...

bring on the REAL football season. :PCHARGERS FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!:P

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BajaGringo - 8-12-2009 at 08:40 PM

I am just happy to see the USA field a team that can compete on the world cup level. I remember back when countries would send their second string team selections and still win easily against the best the USA could field.

I love watching the USA-Mexico matches with friends / family here and we always have a lot of fun with the rivalry...

lizard lips - 8-12-2009 at 09:41 PM

GO CHARGERS--------------:bounce:

fdt - 8-13-2009 at 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by morgaine7
Where's Oso? I owe him a liter of Cazadores that I need to win back.
Go Mexico!! :spingrin:

Kate

Just my luck, I should have bet Oso on these games.

LOSARIPES - 8-13-2009 at 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
yeah squid, the US sucks at football. when was the last time mexico beat spain and dominated brasil for 45 minutes back to back? i'll bet you a box of your favorite beer that the US goes farther than mexico in the next "copa mundial".

enjoy the win.

what is gonna happen IF the US ever wins in azteca stadium? i'll bet, double or nothing, that there will be blood in the streets...

bring on the REAL football season. :PCHARGERS FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!:P

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[Edited on 8-13-2009 by woody in ob]

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Mexico spells with a Capital M... Aztec is also spelled with respect just as you spell "the US".

Anyway.... top brass US player Vs. the best of Mexico... 2-1 Mexico....!!! it looks like Mexico is back and as it is speculated, the US may go further in the world cup but it is all just that: Speculation.

Under the new coach, Mexico has shown great improvement. It would have been a 3-0 US win a few months ago....

Good show... sorry for the gringos... oops!! should I say Gringos?

There will be more games... this is interesting.... that's what the game is all about

LOSARIPES - 8-13-2009 at 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by LOSARIPES
sorry for the gringos... oops!! should I say Gringos?



Since propriety is that important to you today, you shouldn't be saying either one.
On the other hand, we haven't had a "Gringo--as a derogatory term" thread here for a long time. Maybe it's due for a review.
You know where I stand. :yes:


No offense intended. Gringo is pretty much a generic term w/o any intention other than to refer to anyone from US-American extraction... OK? see.. the thing is that we can't use the term Unitesdstatian.... (Estadounidense) and the only acceptable term is American... but American is everybody born in the continent.... so... without intention to offend, the word Gringo come pretty handy. It is just that I'd say.

You are right. I have not read much about the origin of the term in this forum....

BajaGringo - 8-13-2009 at 11:33 AM

Dennis - you and I need to have a face to face about this Gringo obsession. I'll bring the Pacifico's...


:P

Hook - 8-13-2009 at 01:15 PM

My wife and I watched the second half while have lunch at Palominos in Hermosillo. Lots of well-to-do businessmen watching on the big screen.

Then we showed up in tank tops and shorts and sandals and fair skin. We got a few looks; we were WAY underdressed.

Anyway, every time I looked up Mexico was in their attacking zone. I wouldnt be surprised if Mexico spent almost 90% of the second half in front of the US goalie. The US looked really pathetic.

But what do I know? I'm a baseball fan.

A CLOSE Call !

MrBillM - 8-13-2009 at 03:14 PM

I had been worried that the U.S. "might" win this game.

Such a win "might" encourage more enthusiasm in the U.S. for Soccer But, FORTUNATELY, Mexico saved us from that fate and we can go back to our Blase dismissal of the sport.

Of Course, we "Probably" could have overcome ONE Win.

Mia Hamm and Company were supposed to light a Wildfire that couldn't be controlled, but that self-extinguished.

A friend pointed out this a.m. that there is a lot of interest in L.A. and some other places and I countered that is because the "Immigrant" population percentage has increased in those areas.

For the most part, the rest of us aren't interested.

Viva Mexico !

Bajahowodd - 8-13-2009 at 03:56 PM

Mexico obviously needed this win more than did the USA. That being said, and to continue on Bill's idea, I raised kids in the 70's and 80's when there was a big puch for soccer at the high school level. I have a neighbor whose son just graduated from high school whose major decision on where to go to college was predicated on the better "soccer" program. Truth be known, the parents are from Germany. My point is that "futbol", despite the efforts of many over several decades, just doesn't appear to capture the imagination of our citizenry. In a nation that continues to pack stadia to watch beisbol, I don't know what the answer is.

U.S. fans weathered storm of hatred in Mexico

arrowhead - 8-20-2009 at 01:20 AM

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The bus carrying U.S. fans to Estadio Azteca from their Mexico City hotel had traveled about 50 yards when it passed a professional-looking, middle-aged man in a business suit. Who flipped them the bird.

When they arrived at the stadium last Wednesday, police with helmets and riot shields escorted them to the fenced-in visitors' section tucked into the upper corner of the 105,000-seat concrete bowl. When the U.S. team took a 1-0 lead in the ninth minute of the crucial World Cup qualifier, they were pelted with drinks. When Mexico equalized 10 minutes later, they were under assault again.

But Rick Rodriguez, a 42-year-old real estate investor who lives in Pacific Beach, expected all that. What he didn't expect: That it would get worse. “When Mexico scored the second goal,” Rodriguez said of Miguel Sabah's 82nd-minute strike that gave El Tri a 2-1 win, “it was like they opened up a huge hose of garbage. We were just getting a barrage of stuff thrown at us — beer, food, coins, half-filled soda bottles, garbage, everything you could imagine. People were going into the fetal position to protect themselves.

“But what really got me was the anger. The look of pure hatred just blew my mind.” Usually at particularly contentious matches around the world, visiting fans are kept in the stadium by police — sometimes for an hour or more — until the majority of home spectators disperse. This time, Rodriguez said, the U.S. contingent of 400 or 500 was escorted out immediately. Police linked arms and formed a corridor maybe 40 yards wide to the buses.

“It ended up being like a funnel,” Rodriguez said. “Every 10 feet we walked, the corridor started getting narrower and narrower, until it got to the point where it was maybe 8 feet across. Anything they could find was getting thrown at us, and people were getting hit in the head. That's when it got sketchy. That's when I started getting really worried.” It probably didn't help that, according to Rodriguez, one U.S. fan “mooned” Mexican supporters and another spit at them.
After the U.S. fans finally reached the buses, police told them to shut the curtains so folks outside wouldn't know who was inside and try to rock the bus. A few U.S. fans who bravely rode the subway to the game were put in police paddy wagons and driven to safety — among them a San Francisco photographer whose blog tells a similar story in words and pictures.

Rodriguez's mother and paternal grandparents are from Mexico, but he was born here and supports the U.S. team because, he said, “I think it's (wrong) to root for a country other than the one you're born in.” He has visited more than 50 countries and followed the U.S. men's team to two World Cups. This was his first trip to see it in Mexico City. Was it also his last?

“I would go back again if I felt the security was better,” Rodriguez said. “I would definitely consider it. I love the team that much.”


http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/aug/19/us-fans-w...

woody with a view - 8-20-2009 at 05:58 AM

absolute textbook case of penis envy.:rolleyes:

DENNIS - 8-20-2009 at 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by arrowhead
“But what really got me was the anger. The look of pure hatred just blew my mind.”


These arn't fans being fans...they're fans being animals. The United States should kiss that game goodby and stick with the home-grown variety. It's more disgusting when this attitude is brought into US stadiums and the host team is reviled, all in the name of money.
Get rid of the game and get rid of the riff raff that comes with it.
Besides, we have the Oakland Raiders to develop anti-social fan behavior but, at least they're ours. I don't watch them either.

vandenberg - 8-20-2009 at 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Get rid of the game and get rid of the riff raff that comes with it.
Besides, we have the Oakland Raiders to develop anti-social fan behavior but, at least they're ours. I don't watch them either.


Oakland Raiders? If I recall, they used to be the L.A. Raiders:?:
What happened,:?: L.A. couldn't come up with a sufficient amount of riff raff.:?::?: Isn't Southern California considered the main riff raff producer in the world.:?::biggrin::biggrin:

JESSE - 8-20-2009 at 11:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by vandenberg
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Get rid of the game and get rid of the riff raff that comes with it.
Besides, we have the Oakland Raiders to develop anti-social fan behavior but, at least they're ours. I don't watch them either.


Oakland Raiders? If I recall, they used to be the L.A. Raiders:?:
What happened,:?: L.A. couldn't come up with a sufficient amount of riff raff.:?::?: Isn't Southern California considered the main riff raff producer in the world.:?::biggrin::biggrin:

:lol:

woody with a view - 8-20-2009 at 12:21 PM

LA didn't have enough pond scum so the raiders went back to Oakland, their original home. if al davis would just die already maybe the new owner could breathe some life/respect back into the organization.

i remain fully committed to theCHARGER NATION.

DENNIS - 8-20-2009 at 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
i remain fully committed to theCHARGER NATION.


Is it true they may be moving to Culiacán? Word's out that somebody bought them as a gift for his daughters Quinceañera. She has everything else.