Sometimes our horses alert us to stuff like deer and coyotes by "puffing" very loudly, well yesterday it was something out of the ordinary. A 2500 lb
Charolais bull standing right beside our solar panels!!
Our immediate area around the ranch is fenced in (like a 10 acre area) so we chased him out and closed the gate. Hes alone and probably got cut off
from his herd. We put the word out to all the surrounding Melings who ranch the area.
If nobody claims him anybody up for a REALLY big BBQ??
DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 12:58 PM
Are you kidding? If you had anything big enough to kill that thing, it would have to be illegal.
A whole lotta BigMacs though.astrobaja - 7-27-2009 at 01:02 PM
Dennis, the military drive by our road once in a while, maybe some target practice?
Not sure how gamey bull would taste though.....DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 01:06 PM
What do they do with those big honkin' bulls they kill at the bullfights? we used to watch them butcher them on the spot so, I assume somebody ate
them. Not sure.Cypress - 7-27-2009 at 01:19 PM
That's a high dollar bull. His owners will be very glad to get him back. If you kill and BBQ him, you'll lose your taste for BBQ and probably puke
when you hear what it'll cost you.vandenberg - 7-27-2009 at 02:09 PM
Not the kind of animal you like to see next to solar panels. They love to rub up against stuff and years ago, at the Tripui airstrip, I remember some
planes being severely damaged by cattle rubbing up against the wings and fuselage.JESSE - 7-27-2009 at 02:12 PM
My order is:
All the Ribeye
All the T-bones
The tenderloin
Flank steak
Tri-tip
Oh yeah, and send me La Lengua as well. tripledigitken - 7-27-2009 at 02:17 PM
Not much left after that order except..................
some of my favorite nasty bits........................
Beef cheeks and the tail.
Kenastrobaja - 7-27-2009 at 02:28 PM
Hmmmm so far no locals are fessing up, strange seeing as he is being a valuable piece of livestock!
If nobody claims him in a couple days I'm sure the condor project would use him, they are always after deadstock for feeding purposes.
wish we had a bigger freezer now
Jeese too bad you are so far away, otherwise you could have him!ELINVESTIG8R - 7-27-2009 at 02:29 PM
I heard that ranchers in Baja take a dim view on people killing their cattle. It's my understanding they will hang you on the spot without benefit of
a trial if they catch you. Has anyone else heard this.DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
I heard that ranchers in Baja take a dim view on people killing their cattle. It's my understanding they will hang you on the spot without benefit of
a trial if they catch you. Has anyone else heard this.
Oh, hell yes. That's what they always do. John Wayne told me so.
Sorry David....I couln't resist. ELINVESTIG8R - 7-27-2009 at 03:40 PM
I guess I have watched a few too many western movies. Just to be on the safe
side though, don't do it.OLIGUACOMOLE - 7-27-2009 at 04:29 PM
My grandpa had cattle in Wisconsin.
Cutting the bull-to-be nuts off was standard. It was made a steer, or the calf was sold if it was a male.
I am around some Mexican ranchers here and I ask why they do not make the males steers when they are young and keep some certain bulls for breeding?
I explain the steers do not have the tetesterone in the meat and if a bull is made a steer they put on more weight and taste better when they sell.
Never have had a straight answer on this from the rancheros.
Maybe this is why we get tough beef!Oso - 7-27-2009 at 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
What do they do with those big honkin' bulls they kill at the bullfights? we used to watch them butcher them on the spot so, I assume somebody ate
them. Not sure.
Guides like to tell tourists that the meat is donated to orphanages so they won't feel so guilty about watching the spectacle. This is complete
torocaca of course. Bullfight promoters are not known for altruism. It's just sold in local butchershops by whichever butcher bid the most.
[Edited on 7-28-2009 by Oso]DENNIS - 7-27-2009 at 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by OLIGUACOMOLE
Maybe this is why we get tough beef!
Just age the stuff in a cold box and cook it slowley. That's what the big boys do.Steve&Debby - 7-27-2009 at 09:21 PM
Bulls are only good for breeding and jerkychuckmccullough - 7-28-2009 at 10:47 AM
Good job, maybe this will get someone’s attention. OR maybe the condor guy will stop by!astrobaja - 7-28-2009 at 11:15 AM
Chuck,
Duane e-mailed me this am, She thinks Rancho Coyote has Charolais, so I think Mr. Toro belongs to Esteban. It should be entertaining trying to catch
him , hes REALLY timid and wary, hope they bring a few good horses!
BUT if nobody does come after a week or so he can go towards feeding Condors!
cheers
MikeSkeet/Loreto - 7-28-2009 at 11:26 AM
Many years ago a Local at San Nicholas was caught selling stolen Beef.
he was jailed at Villa Constitution and was to serve 3 years for the Crime.
His father ask me to "Pay him out of Jail", I did and it cost $400. His Father gave me a place to live at San Nicholas, I did for nearly 4 years.
So be very carefull if you are going to Rustle Cattle in Baja.
Skeetnancywinpdx - 7-28-2009 at 11:45 AM
Wow!astrobaja - 7-28-2009 at 11:47 AM
Skeet,
It would only be a last resort for us, but I also do not especially want a permanent 2000 lb visitor. Because we have water and some grazing and I
think he thinks our horses are the closest things to a cow he has seen in a while!
A bull is one of the most dangerous animals I can think of, very unpredictable, fairly fast, and frighteningly strong! I don't feel safe wandering
near him without a quick getaway route, so I think I'm within my rights as a ranchowner to take action seeing as I have taken steps to find his owner.
I'll give it a week after that I don't want him around anymore! Eventually we will need to fence our property, but its a large undertaking as its 1200
acres!bajalou - 7-28-2009 at 12:00 PM
Baja is "Open Range" meaning unless you fence animals out, they have the right to go wherever they want. Animals are not considered trespassers
unless they get into a fenced area. So unless you have fences, the bull has all the rights here.Oggie - 7-28-2009 at 12:10 PM
On a recent trip to our home in BOLA, in the grande vado after the turn-off, this fella wandered onto the road. He stood his ground. Check-out the
skid marks. We backed-up and had to drive around him.
astrobaja - 7-28-2009 at 12:26 PM
Lou, I get what you are saying about the open range idea. Thats why we are initiating steps to get our land officialy declared "nature preserve
status" through the organization CONANP.
This would qualify us for help putting up fencing, money for greenhouses (replanting of indegenous species), plus it would provide a large buffer
zone to the San Pedro Martir park. If we had problems in the future with errant cattle it will give us some legal teeth to take action. The park BTW
has officially banned cattle, and they are allowed to shoot on sight any stray animal which are then donated to local hospitals. Military are
monitoring cattle and the brands, so that ranchers will respect the new status. I fully agreee with the new policy as the park has many endemic
species that need protection, theres plenty of range land at the lower non park elevations.Cypress - 7-28-2009 at 12:27 PM
All I can say is "go for it". Go ahead and kill your neighbors bull. With what? Your bare hands? You gonna run over him with your rig. Unload on him
with illegal firearms? Better leave that bull alone. astrobaja - 7-28-2009 at 12:38 PM
Jeez Cypress, I said I'd give it some time! I have a AIR rifle thats it so obviously I would'nt do it myself! BUT it is a dangerous animal, so after I
fashion I will take action.Cypress - 7-28-2009 at 01:00 PM
astrobaja, With any luck, it'll probably move on to greener pastures. And you won't have to worry about it.Skeet/Loreto - 7-28-2009 at 01:15 PM
Astrobaja>
Were you able to read any Brand on this animal?
Reason I ask is that in the past year there has been a large increase in Stolen Cattle from all along the Border. It just might be that this is the
case and the animal is from the States.
Do not be afraid of the Bull> Get a bucket, put some Corn in it and feed the Bull, just stay away from its Rear.
Keep the Bull around til you finds its owner, I am sure that he would appreciate your Concerns,oldjack - 7-28-2009 at 01:25 PM
I have been told that there are moutain lions in that area... maybe it will take care of you intruder..... have you seen/heard any signs of mountain
lions in the park?????DENNIS - 7-28-2009 at 02:30 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by oldjack
I have been told that there are moutain lions in that area... maybe it will take care of you intruder..... have you seen/heard any signs of mountain
lions in the park?????
I've seen them up by Laguna Hanson. I think that bull would stomp hell out of a Mountain Lion.Oso - 7-29-2009 at 04:45 PM
Tried running him off with firecrackers?DENNIS - 7-29-2009 at 05:12 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Oso
Tried running him off with firecrackers?
Or a red cape? Here's that Hemingway moment you've always dreamed of.astrobaja - 7-29-2009 at 05:19 PM
No sign of el toro today, maybe he got bored and went down the hill...
He had no brand I could see, just a yellow ear tag with a no.
Yes we have moutain lions (although never seen one) but they are way too smart to try tackling something that big, lots of easy prey like bunnies and
such.Crusoe - 7-29-2009 at 06:12 PM
If a seasoned old tough male Mt. Lion was real hungry that bull would not have a chinamens chance in a confrontation. Mt. Lions are quick, smart and
stronger than hell. ++C++TMW - 7-29-2009 at 06:30 PM
Why not throw a rope around his mid section and get on for a little bull riding? Have some fun. Invite the neighbors.
