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new requirement for dogs coming into MX

Dianamo - 9-20-2009 at 07:28 PM

Has anyone heard about a new requirement for any dogs coming into Mexico from Canada and the U.S. that each dog must have a separate document from a vet stating the dog is free of any worms or parasites? I was told a government official checks these documents when you enter the country. Hope someone has more information.

DENNIS - 9-20-2009 at 07:55 PM

Never heard of that. I find it hard to believe they would be concerned with dog worms.

Woooosh - 9-20-2009 at 08:28 PM

News to us too. We bring our dogs back and forth all the time and have been through the red light revisions with them recently. They just need to be friendly dogs. I could understand proof of rabies shots like headed north, but American dogs with "worms"? They made Rosarito on-leash only now so who knows. Maybe they simply don't want people with dogs any more.

You know how embedded the fear of dogs is in Mexicans.

Marie-Rose - 9-20-2009 at 08:31 PM

If I remember correctly, there was something mentioned about this on the Baja Western Onion, which came via the La Paz Gringos... I also find it quite incredible that they would have someone specifically checking for a separate document that says the dogs are free from intestinal parasites.... would that not be covered in the International health certificate??? I certainly hope so... every time we get one here in Victoria it costs us
$100!!! (for each dog!)

Woooosh - 9-20-2009 at 09:08 PM

It could be for air travel.

Mexicorn - 9-20-2009 at 09:20 PM

We Travel with our dogs every week. Only a few times I have been asked by CBP for thier shot records. Make sure you have those on hand. They can be from a Mexican or American Vet. what they stress on are the rabies shots.:biggrin:
But no problemo!

Dogs

tehag - 9-21-2009 at 07:33 AM

Got the green light last Sunday at TJ, then a guy waved me into the inspection lane anyway. A friendly young agent asked me a couple of questions, looked at the packed trunk without touching anything, and then asked if any of my three dogs would be able to make a puppy for him. No mention of health, papers, worms, nada.

DENNIS - 9-21-2009 at 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by tehag
then asked if any of my three dogs would be able to make a puppy for him.


Should have told him to go downtown to Adelitas and act like a man instead of violating your dog.

Dianamo - 9-21-2009 at 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Marie-Rose
If I remember correctly, there was something mentioned about this on the Baja Western Onion, which came via the La Paz Gringos...


The limited info that I have came via the LaPaz Gringos.

durrelllrobert - 9-21-2009 at 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by tehag
then asked if any of my three dogs would be able to make a puppy for him.


Should have told him to go downtown to Adelitas and act like a man instead of violating your dog.

As I understand it the dogs are all males and he's the one that wanted t6o be violated:lol::lol:

shari - 9-21-2009 at 09:35 AM

ewwwww.....you guys...so early on monday morning:barf:

DENNIS - 9-21-2009 at 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by shari
ewwwww.....you guys...so early on monday morning:barf:


Gotta get the week started out with a bang. :lol:

shari - 9-21-2009 at 11:21 AM

I hate it when people do this but...:o:o:o:o:o:spingrin::spingrin::spingrin::saint::saint::smug::smug::smug::bounce:

crap....the laughing face wasnt' available....OK...just picture me crackin up dennis....ooop now it is...:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Edited on 9-21-2009 by shari]

dtbushpilot - 9-21-2009 at 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by tehag
then asked if any of my three dogs would be able to make a puppy for him.


Should have told him to go downtown to Adelitas and act like a man instead of violating your dog.

As I understand it the dogs are all males and he's the one that wanted t6o be violated:lol::lol:



Maybe that's how they check for worms in MX:lol::lol::lol:..dt

Bajajorge - 9-21-2009 at 02:39 PM

Over the years I cross the border some 5-6 times a year. I have had a dog with me on every crossing. Only once have I been asked for proof of a rabies shot for my dog. The request came from an Agricultural Agent, not Mexican Customs. I don't think they much care about worms.

toneart - 9-21-2009 at 03:43 PM

These are all replacement border officials. It is a whole new ballgame. What you did in the past isn't relevant any more.

Please, can we have some reports from people who have taken dogs into Baja in the last three or four weeks, since the new officials have taken over? We need several reports referencing different border crossings, so as to get an idea of what to expect from now on. I say "several reports" because there is always the exception. We need a consensus. Thanks.

BajaWarrior - 9-21-2009 at 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
These are all replacement border officials. It is a whole new ballgame. What you did in the past isn't relevant any more.

Please, can we have some reports from people who have taken dogs into Baja in the last three or four weeks, since the new officials have taken over? We need several reports referencing different border crossings, so as to get an idea of what to expect from now on. I say "several reports" because there is always the exception. We need a consensus. Thanks.


Crossed south two weeks ago with our two Rottys at Mexicali East. Had to stop in at Immagration to get my FM3 stamped.

While driving through the Declaration lane the Border guard (civilian now) stopped me to look at the Paperwork for our two jet ski's that I was towing and one of the dogs went bolistic, he asked me for my Drivers License to match up the registration and we were out of there. The dogs are kept in a large plywood kennel in the bed of the truck just inside the tailgate so if you walk too close you get quite a scare but they didn't say a thing...

Crossing again this coming weekend with dogs... Will report back...

DENNIS - 9-21-2009 at 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Will report back...




Hey BW......Your report will be a lot more interesting if, next time, you take them out of the box.
Awww, I'm just kiddin. :lol:

BajaWarrior - 9-21-2009 at 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Will report back...




Hey BW......Your report will be a lot more interesting if, next time, you take them out of the box.
Awww, I'm just kiddin. :lol:


What's really funny is when the Army guys attempt to tease them. You've never seen these guys jump so fast when the dogs light up! Of course they're friendly dogs as many Nomads know... They are just defending their space as any dog would.

160# Newf no problem

Bronco - 9-22-2009 at 07:33 AM

"Schooch" has never been asked for his papers coming into MX or going north. If we take our motorhome we get pulled over for the agriculture check. We get alot of questions just because he is one big, black handsome guy that makes him look intimidating.

DrTom - 9-22-2009 at 07:34 AM

theres no way you can deem an animal totally free of intestinal parasites....theres stages in the different life cycles that are encysted in intesinal walls or migrating in blood etc.....nope, cant do it...never heard of it.

Bajajorge - 9-22-2009 at 08:47 AM

BajaWarrior, My fear always was that Mexican Customs or Military would shoot my Rotty when we were south. "Ditto" would not allow anyone within 20 feet of my truck and trailer. Her barking, growling and lip curled up over her head meant "stay the hell away a--hole.". My wife would always have to wrestle her to the floor boards at Customs and at check points to protect both the dog and the authorities.

Woooosh - 9-22-2009 at 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by BajaWarrior
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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Will report back...




Hey BW......Your report will be a lot more interesting if, next time, you take them out of the box.
Awww, I'm just kiddin. :lol:


What's really funny is when the Army guys attempt to tease them. You've never seen these guys jump so fast when the dogs light up! Of course they're friendly dogs as many Nomads know... They are just defending their space as any dog would.


When the Mexican inspectors ask if my dogs bite, I always say "No". If anyone in my neighborhood asks if they bite, I say "All dogs bite- it's just a matter of who, when and why". I don't want the local banditos thinking my dogs are pushovers.

latest pet info

Dianamo - 9-29-2009 at 10:53 AM

This is not my experience, I copied this from the Baja Pony Express.
DianaMo


a. When I arrived from Canada on September 1 of this year, we were pulled aside at the La Paz airport because of my two dogs. The lady who was asking for documents wasn't part of the customs team; she was an officer of the "agriculture" department. Unfortunately, I don't speak Spanish so I did not know what she was asking for, but I do know that my vet-signed vaccination records and certificates of health were not enough. She spent a good half hour on the phone to
someone before we were allowed to go through. I have no idea who she called or why they finally cleared my dogs. A couple weeks later Dhorea Ryon of Baja Dogs was pulled aside by the same people at the La Paz airport. They recognized her and wanted her to tell 'everyone' here about the new regulations. Dhorea's Spanish is a little better than mine, but not much, and what she got out of the conversation was that there is a new requirement for a separate document, on top of the vaccination records and certificate of health, verifying the dog does not have worms or parasites. In an effort to get the correct and complete information out to everyone, we will try to contact someone at the agriculture department directly in the next few weeks and pass the information along when we get it. We will also ask if these regulations apply to all animals, if the regulations are the same whether you fly in or drive in, and if the regulations apply throughout Mexico or for some inexplicable reason, just at the La Paz airport.
Sheryl
Owner /moderator of La Paz Gringos
Proud Supporter of Baja Dogs


b. Our vet sent this to me today. We have been driving to Mexico with our dog the last 10 yrs. We have never been asked on either side of the border. The last 2 yrs. they made us leave the dry dog food coming into the US.

Import regs to Mexico Saturday, September 26, 2009 9:24:38 AM

Pets import to Mexico from US::

All pets require a veterinary health certificate, issued not more than 5 days before arrival. For dogs and cats, health certificate must include:
- (for pets older than 3 months) rabies vaccination history issued within 12 months before arrival. If rabies vaccination history is not included, rabies vaccination certificate must be attached.
- attestation that the pet is free from ECTO and ENDO parasites.

Further information can be found at:
www.senasica.gob.mx

"Phytozoosanitary Inspection" and "When travelling, bring your pet".

http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/MX-Mexico-customs-currency-a...

toneart - 10-1-2009 at 10:17 AM

Has anybody experienced this new requirement while crossing into Baja by vehicle?

crossing the border w/ dogs

Dianamo - 10-5-2009 at 08:23 AM

Reports from the Baja Pony Express:

"1. Written 10/2/09: Hi. About crossing the border with pets. We just went through Tijuana with our cat. Got
a green light, but were pulled over anyway. Just a short look by officer, but the cat container was sitting on top of our stuff and I reached back and closed the door so she would not get out. He never asked about pets at all! So I conclude they are not that fussy yet.

2. We crossed at Otay Mesa Sept. 26th. Between three vehicles, three dogs and LOADS of household stuff it might have been the easiest crossing in 18 years. We heeded the advice on BPE and spent lots of money on health certificates and booster shots and tick medicine for the tick 'problem'. It wasn't as if they didn't see the the German Shepherds barking out the window. The border guards were not interested AT ALL about the dogs. They were however, asking for registration and any information on the off road vehicles (motorcycles in this case). Roads were normal all the way down. Our trucks with trailers and the 38' motor home made it without incident. Drive carefully and have fun!"

DianaT - 10-5-2009 at 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by toneart
Has anybody experienced this new requirement while crossing into Baja by vehicle?


Crossed at San Ysidro one week ago. We did not get the red light, but were pulled over anyway.

Agent asked where we were going, took a quick look in the back, smiled at the friendly dog in the back seat, laughed at the little crabby one sitting between us, told us to have a nice day and waved us on. Only question about the dogs was if the little one just growled or if she would bite.

For us, it seemed the same as always. With the shell on the back of the truck, even if we get the green light, we are often pulled into secondary----few questions, quick look, and off we go.



[Edited on 10-5-2009 by DianaT]

bajabass - 10-5-2009 at 03:38 PM

I have crossed at SY 6 times in the past 2 months with my new collie puppy, Winston. Entering has not been a problem yet. Once the ICE agent said have the shot papers. Oops, now they stay in my truck. He was a big hit with my wifes family in Ensenada. Had about 50 of them there, and half a dozen requests for him to service their female dogs in need. Ah, it's a dogs life in Mexico!!!!

Dogs Entering La Paz By Air

Dianamo - 11-9-2009 at 06:48 AM

This was posted on the Baja Western Onion and the Baja Pony Express. (I hope it is okay with Dhorea that I included her name and info!)

"I was told approx 2 months ago by an official at the airport that requirements had changed when bringing in a dog by air. You need an updated current official letter stating the health of the dog, date and type of vaccines, a separate rabies certificate and you need a declaration by the vet stating your dog is parasite free. Yesterday in the LP airport two people arrived from LAX with dogs. These dogs were held until we found a vet that could come to the airport and do a parasite test, give the dog another rabies vaccine and issue a certificate of health. One of the individuals had a certificate issued in the US or Ca but the letter was signed in black ink and the official at the airport insisted it was a copy and would not accept it. I left before the vet arrived so do not know the outcome or what would have happened if parasites were found. Make sure your docs are up to date! - Dhorea Ryon, dhorearyon@hotmail.com , www.bajadogslapaz.org, Baja California Sur"

I posted this yesterday on General Discussion board

Howard - 11-9-2009 at 07:09 AM

No papers needed for my dog

Flew from Loreto today to Los Angeles with my Lab, Gringo the Dingo, and was ready at every point to furnish his health certificate, vaccination records, etc., etc., etc. At no point whatsoever was I asked for any paperwork until I was in LAX, and the last person that you hand your declaration to before you exit asked, “Is that dog originally from here?” I said yes (of which he was) and he said OK and that was that!

I still recommend that you have all your bases covered for your animal when you fly but I found it amazing that nobody asked for anything!

By the way, I do not think Alaska flies to Loreto any longer, but their affiliate Horizon Airlines does. Smaller plane, no first class and no food to purchase. The dog cage barely fit through the opening into the cargo area with just inches to spare.

another LaPaz air arrival experience

Dianamo - 11-10-2009 at 07:26 AM

Not my experience, this if from the Baja Pony Express. It appears this new requirement may be limited to air arrival in LaPaz. :?::?::?:

Here's our experience in La Paz regarding arriving with our big dog.

Although the dog arrival system has been consistent for us for many years at the Los Cabos airport, which requires vaccine and rabies certifications, my husband just arrived to the La Paz airport and the requirements are definitely different. You will need to show proof that your pet is free of fleas, ticks and worms, a document which we did not have and is not routinely provided as a proof of health with our veterinarians. Of course our pets are free of fleas with the help of monthly treatments as well as the 20 degree nights in Sun Valley, Idaho assures it! Worms are treated routinely. We had to wait while the woman in charge summoned a vet, who when he arrived quoted the worry of Parvo and Rocky Mountain Tick Fever, which was the reason for the change in the document requirements. The airport official made us administer 4 pills to our dog for worms, they looked very much like Pepto Bismol, and only then was she allowed out of the crate to be pottied. All to say, it is a 'FREE of Worms, Ticks, Fleas' document which you need to arrive with, at least in La Paz. Buen suerte!