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Honeywell's new wind turbine.....

BajaNuts - 10-12-2009 at 07:27 PM

Is this the thing?

http://www.earthtronics.com/honeywell.aspx

BajaGringo - 10-12-2009 at 07:52 PM

This looks very promising...

Bob and Susan - 10-13-2009 at 05:34 AM

35 db

its as noisy as a small generator

BajaGringo - 10-13-2009 at 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
35 db

its as noisy as a small generator


I can live with that. I just turn up the music...

:lol:

capt. mike - 10-13-2009 at 10:00 AM

also a neat one at www.solcool.com

35 db is liveable.
my honda 2000 w. ran at 48 db max when we beach camped the RV and was not annoying at all once you walked away from it. it simply blended into the ambient white noise.

i'll bet if roof mounted the noise would dissapate in the wind.

David K - 10-13-2009 at 10:07 AM

Nice to see advances made... solar and quiet wind generators together to make electricty... Someday, every house might have both on the roof?

DENNIS - 10-13-2009 at 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike

i'll bet if roof mounted the noise would dissapate in the wind.


Six foot diameter. That's pretty big for a roof mount, isn't it?
Does it track the wind? I didn't see that. I'll look again.
I guess if you knew what it was made out of, you could guess how it will react to salt air.

Woooosh - 10-13-2009 at 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
If it holds up.


I can't tell you how many thousands I've spent on wet-rated items (ceiling fans, etc) that don't hold up to the salt air- even when indoors.

Even my $3K Bowflex rusted beyond use indoors. They told me it wasn't safe to continue using (except as a coat rack) and rust was not covered under warranty. My response was simple: " When a consumer puts a Bowlfex, a PC, a satellite receiver and a 46" plasma TV in the same room- you don't expect the one item to fail and become unusable/unsafe to be the Bowflex."

Some genius should make a product designation called "coastal rated". Sincew 75% of the population lives near the coasts, it could be a huge selling point.

[Edited on 10-13-2009 by Woooosh]

DENNIS - 10-13-2009 at 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
Some genius should make a product designation called "coastal rated". Sincew 75% of the population lives near the coasts, it could be a huge selling point.



I think that genius spent all his talent making the grocery bag. You can throw one of those on the beach and it will still be there fifty thousand years from now.

Jeeezo Woooosh....sounds like you need a dehumidifier, at least in that one room.

Woooosh - 10-13-2009 at 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Some genius should make a product designation called "coastal rated". Sincew 75% of the population lives near the coasts, it could be a huge selling point.



I think that genius spent all his talent making the grocery bag. You can throw one of those on the beach and it will still be there fifty thousand years from now.

Jeeezo Woooosh....sounds like you need a dehumidifier, at least in that one room.


Ya think? I need to spend less on coat racks. :)

Bob and Susan - 10-13-2009 at 11:42 AM

whoosh...
think plastic everything

capt. mike - 10-13-2009 at 02:58 PM

no kidding, Bob is right.
i cannot believe how quickly the sun and salt "ate" my 1987 beater airport Nissan parked at Serenidad for 5 or so years.
i would never want to bring down something nice or expensive for a long time close to ocean. if it's metal it is going to disintegrate.

tripledigitken - 10-13-2009 at 03:09 PM

As a supplimental system or one that will feed back into a grid this would be ok. But at $4500+ per each and only suppling about 18% of a homes needs your over $25000 not counting batteries, and you would have 5ea (6') windmills decorating your casa.

Maybe i'm missing something but this doesn't seem to fit most Baja power needs that are off grid.

my 2 cents.

Ken

DENNIS - 10-13-2009 at 03:46 PM

Can you imagine what your Home Owners Association would have to say?

capt. mike - 10-14-2009 at 09:04 AM

Here in AZ HOAs have been usurped of their control to refuse roof mounted exposed solar systems - they are blocked from prohibiting them - in effect anyone can now install solar despite what might exist as a ban from their HOA.
i am researching this but both local power companies which promote grid tie and net metering systems are all over this with their ads that say HOAs are now powerless to stop you.
what i haven't found yet is this a federal mandate overriding local convention via some emminant domain or?? it might be State law, i just don't know yet.
it might extend to wind generators under parity theory of purpose or function.

DENNIS - 10-14-2009 at 01:44 PM

Six footers look like small ferris wheels. I'm not sure a skyline full of these things in my neighbohood wouldn't pee me off.

Bajahowodd - 10-14-2009 at 01:54 PM

Maybe it could be disguised. I've got a major cell phone tower two blocks from my house that absolutely looks like a palm tree!

David K - 10-14-2009 at 01:59 PM

There was a time... back when I was a kid... people had TV antennas on the roof... real tall ones... with wires to hold them in place...

Like a fireplace chimney, or a pila in Baja, it would be something you soon would get used to.

I think it might be good if they can improve the amount of power it provides... but I am also hoping that we discover dilithium crystals to power stuff too!

Udo - 10-14-2009 at 02:25 PM

I'll go along with the members that feel this item may not be rated for ocean-front property.
But I'll send an inquiry and see what they say, since the sea is where most wind comes from.

Bajahowodd - 10-14-2009 at 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by David K
There was a time... back when I was a kid... people had TV antennas on the roof... real tall ones... with wires to hold them in place...

Like a fireplace chimney, or a pila in Baja, it would be something you soon would get used to.

I think it might be good if they can improve the amount of power it provides... but I am also hoping that we discover dilithium crystals to power stuff too!



I remember growing up eons ago in New York. Ham radio enthusiast put up thses gigantic antennae. (not to mention their frequency used to bleed into AM radio and TV. Oh. then there were the pigeon coops on the roofs, too.

I kinda agree with David about getting used to the esthetic disruption. We have become a society of planned communities and HOAs telling us what we can and cannot do.

DENNIS - 10-14-2009 at 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I kinda agree with David about getting used to the esthetic disruption. We have become a society of planned communities and HOAs telling us what we can and cannot do.


I think individuals should be able to invest in large, efficient wind turbines outside the neighborhood, in their grid and be credited acording to their investment and usage.

rob - 10-26-2009 at 01:56 PM

Woooosh - glad you mentioned that about your Bowflex - been thinking about getting one to combat my growing pains. I just hadn't thought about rust . . .

ncampion - 10-26-2009 at 06:02 PM

So if I'm reading the specs correctly, this thing produces about 225 watts in Class 3 winds (don't know exactly what that is in mph) which I assume is "normal" wind speeds. That's pretty expensive on a cost/watt basis as 220 watt solar panels can now be bought for around $600.

DavidT - 10-26-2009 at 09:03 PM

Does a wind generator have to be round? Maybe not.

http://www.humdingerwind.com/#/wi_overview/

Diver - 10-26-2009 at 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I think individuals should be able to invest in large, efficient wind turbines outside the neighborhood, in their grid and be credited acording to their investment and usage.


That's a program that is catching on in many states.
Tax credits for solar installations can top 30% and most utilities are required to purchase your excess power; most through grid-tie systems.

Depending on your local power costs, solar installations return investment in 14-20 years while their life expectancy is not much over 20 years.
With sufficient wind velocities, a wind turbine can pay for itself in 5-8 years !
I live in the windiest place in the country and wind power is going nuts here.
With the new turbines capable of handling and using wind over 30 mph, we could get a payback in 4-5 years !

[Edited on 10-27-2009 by Diver]