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Sinaloa Cartel comes to Baja to back up Senor Teo

Woooosh - 10-29-2009 at 09:38 AM

This is not good news for anyone thinking the local violence would be slowing down as Teo became more vulnerable and was more likely to be caught.

For the first time the local TJ/Rosarito Beach Police admit the Sinaloa cartel has arrived in Baja and is behind the recent police killings and bridge artwork in TJ/Rosarito- including this weeks death of a 15 year old girl helping her mom set up a taco stand on her way to Rosarito for school. For some reason this bridge on the 5&10 (free road from san ysidro to rosarito) has been the location of choice for them to kill police and hang bodies.

"El Mex is reporting that through interrogation of the surviving assassins of last Saturday's shootout in Mexicali, the PGJE announced an arrest of another member of the State Police (PME) with ties to the Sinaloa cartel. State Attorney Manjarrez stated: "Clearly there is still corruption in our institutions despite the cleansing process we have had in recent months...there is no denying we still have ministerial officers working with organized crime, our emphasis will be to continue investigation."


They say most of the drugs coming north through baja belong to the Sinaloa cartel. I wasn't aware there was a big south-to-north-Baja drug route, but I guess there is.

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/oct/29/authoriti...

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/oct/27/bn27gunba...

fdt - 10-29-2009 at 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
I wasn't aware there was a big south-to-north-Baja drug route, but I guess there is.


JESSE - 10-29-2009 at 09:50 AM

Teo broke with Tijuana's Arellano Felix Family more than 1 1/2 years ago. He then went to Sinaloa and succesfully secured "funding" from the Sinaloa cartel to get rid of the Arellanos. When he couldn't deliver, the funding was cut and he know moves drugs from the Sinaloa cartel, but he no longer has their full backing. Some sources say they also don't care for his wild brutality.

The Arellanos lost Mexicali to the Sinaloa cartel almost 5 years ago. It happened when their main man in that city turned and joined the Sinaloa cartel. But the Sinaloa cartel fractured a year ago, so Mexicali is up for grabs again. The reason why its clear Teo does not have the full backing of Sinaloa?. His killers are mostly 20 year old unexperienced kids. They usually get paid 300 dollars a week, and most important, the Arellanos are not doing anything. If it was the Sinaloa cartel, the Arellanos would be out there killing their rivals, and their not.

Woooosh - 10-29-2009 at 10:10 AM

Public Safety Secretary of State, Daniel de la Rosa Anaya announced that those arrested after last Saturday's shoot outs are linked to the Sinaloa cartel, which is seeking to control the plaza.

The ZETA edition explains the relationship between El Teo who protects the Sinaloa cartel, some of the more recent executions and high levels of corruption dating back years in Baja California, and the drugs coming into Baja California through Ensenada basically belongs to the Sinaloa cartel.

Woooosh - 10-29-2009 at 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by fdt
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Originally posted by Woooosh
I wasn't aware there was a big south-to-north-Baja drug route, but I guess there is.




yeah I know DUH. But I really hadn't thought the trafficers brought it up through the Baja peninsula. I thought it came up the west coast of mainland Mexico and then moved west to TJ and Baja norte.

MitchMan - 10-30-2009 at 08:10 AM

Woooosh, when you state that "But I really hadn't thought the trafficers brought it up through the Baja peninsula. I thought it came up the west coast of mainland Mexico and then moved west to TJ and Baja norte", are you implying that the drug cartels are moving drugs from Cabo to TJ by way of northward travel through the entire length of the baja peninsula?

If so, why haven't we heard of any substantive drug activity/violence/problems in Cabo, La Paz, Todo Santos, Constitution, Loreto, Mulege, Santa Rosalia, GN, or San Quintin?

I am not challenging your above-mentioned implication, I am truly curious. So far I have been preferencially and perhaps naively thinking that being in baja sur was safe and free from drug related problems and cartel-related dangers. Am I wrong?



[Edited on 10-30-2009 by MitchMan]

Woooosh - 10-30-2009 at 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by MitchMan
Woooosh, when you state that "But I really hadn't thought the trafficers brought it up through the Baja peninsula. I thought it came up the west coast of mainland Mexico and then moved west to TJ and Baja norte", are you implying that the drug cartels are moving drugs from Cabo to TJ by way of northward travel through the entire length of the baja peninsula?

If so, why haven't we heard of any substantive drug activity/violence/problems in Cabo, La Paz, Todo Santos, Constitution, Loreto, Mulege, Santa Rosalia, GN, or San Quintin?

I am not challenging your above-mentioned implication, I am truly curious. So far I have been preferencially and perhaps naively thinking that being in baja sur was safe and free from drug related problems and cartel-related dangers. Am I wrong?

[Edited on 10-30-2009 by MitchMan]


That was the point of my post. I wasn't aware drugs were being moved north through baja at all. That would be very bad for Nomads. The same remote areas and off-road routes Nomads use to camp and explore Baja could be the same routes narcos would use to avoid detection as they move their haul north. Does anyone have any more on this?

All I have seen in print is an excerpt that said the drugs moving north from Ensenada belonged to the Sinaloa cartel. It doesn't say if Ensenada is the point of origin or if they come from further south down baja.

fdt - 10-30-2009 at 10:58 AM

I'm sure you've all heard the phrase, "What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas". Well, I have a new one for you, "What happens in Tijuana, goes around the world, many times".
If you read the Baja California Sur newspapers, talk to the local residents or have lived a local lifestyle in Baja California Sur, you would know that for the longest time it has been the route for drug transportation, refueling of drug filled aircraft, storage of mass ammounts of drugs and so on and so on. As for the crime and violence and killings and more, it's all there. You have to also look at the number of people that live in the entire state of Baja California Sur, it doesn't even come close to a 5th of the people that live in Tijuana alone. You have to also take into consideration that the border area is were most drugs concentrate to get across.

http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n959601.htm

Drug running up the Baja

Fred-o - 10-30-2009 at 04:52 PM

"That was the point of my post. I wasn't aware drugs were being moved north through baja at all. That would be very bad for Nomads. The same remote areas and off-road routes Nomads use to camp and explore Baja could be the same routes narcos would use to avoid detection as they move their haul north. Does anyone have any more on this?"

Sorry I have not learned how to "block" a quote from the post to be added to...

Anyway, a friend and I were off roading south of El Rosario looking for some old copper mines. A local in El Rosario had told us where they were, and mentioned to keep and eye out for the "drug runners". And sure enough, we saw a couple of vehicles roaring up the old back road Northbound near the mines we were exploring. There were no Ranchos out there for them to be going to, and we were off the road quite a ways so they probably did not notice us. Not that they would have bothered us if they had. I think it is an old backroad route around the Checkpoint just North of El Rosario. Just a possibility, that's all.

bajabass - 11-2-2009 at 03:51 PM

At several of the northbound checkpoints there are pictures of the truckloads of drugs the military has confiscated. This has been a problem for a long, long time. I am sure the backroads are used all the time. There was a checkpoint on the old road in La Mision, right at the bridge yesterday. A quick look in the boat, and on my way. The checkpoints need to be moved around, in no particular order to be more effective. Once the transporters know where they are, it is pretty simple to navigate around them. I am sure the locals all know the dirt roads/trails around them! Again, we must eliminate the demand, or they will find a way to supply us, always.

Santiago - 11-2-2009 at 04:15 PM

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Sorry I have not learned how to "block" a quote from the post to be added to...


Fred-o: upper right hand corner of the post you would like to quote are 2 buttons: "Quote" and "Report". Delete the stuff you don't want to show in the quote and you're done.
Dennis can tell you about the 'Report" button...;D

tjBill - 11-3-2009 at 10:42 AM

Baja has miles upon miles of sparsely populated coastline, making it an ideal spot for ships to drop their cargo.

Woooosh - 11-3-2009 at 11:09 AM

Luckily the Mexican army and police aren't looking for them too hard. No matter where they set their checkpoints for the day/week- the narco's lookouts are just a Nextel walkie-talkie call away.

They likey don't want to catch them or they would. Baja isn't that complex. They likely don't want the US media to find out about the south to north drug trafficing. That would put a crimp in the "Visit Baja Sur" marketing efforts becasue the media would just exaggerate the problem. Instead they let the armed narco convoys head north to TJ (like that shooting a few sundays ago) and that keeps it purely a TJ/border drug issue. :saint:

DENNIS - 11-3-2009 at 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
They likely don't want the US media to find out about the south to north drug trafficing.


Drugs have been coming onshore in this area for a long time. How do I know? A friend of mine, an American who has lived here forever, has a son who went bad and started hanging with riff raff from the local town, Cantú. They would be paid to off-load pangas on the beach across the hill at Arbolítos.
I don't know where the pangas were loading, perhaps off ships in the night. That's US Coast Guard and Navy territory out there so, don't know what to tell ya.

mulegemichael - 11-3-2009 at 01:31 PM

we have, on more than one occasion, found entire bales of pot washed up on the beach on the east cape..usually around christmas..feliz navidad!

motoged - 11-3-2009 at 01:52 PM

Hmmmmm,
Zodiacs shot up by military helicopter at San Sebastion a few years ago....military came to clean up the next day...."the jefe is my best contact" said a local gringo....................police chief in San Juanico handing it over to a gringo to complete the transaction????? Naw, it can't be true:o:o