bajalera - 6-30-2004 at 03:21 PM
Three ships commanded by Francisco de Ulloa set sail from Acapulco in July of 1539--and despite storms and fierce winds eventually reached the mouth
of the Colorado River, occasionally seeking shelter at the port of Santa Cruz (now La Paz).
The explorers then set out for the west coast of the peninsula. In late November some cautious exchanges were made with Indians at a peninsula harbor
somewhere south of Isla Cedros--with Spaniards leaving glass beads and fish-hooks at a neutral spot, where Indians picked these up and left
pearl-oyster shells and colored feathers.
(An interesting example of trade relationships: visitors giving cheap trade goods, Indians giving things they treasured.)
One day some Indians who wanted to trade arrived and were ignored by the Spaniards, who were eating dinner. Then, in the quaint English of the
translation published by Richard Hakluyt ("HACK-loot") in 1600:
"certain mariners went out in the boat, to wey the anker, whereupon the Indians seeing them comming towards them, & bringing them nothing, they
beganne in scorne to shew them their buttockes, making signs that should should kisse their bums . . ."
Does this mean that mooning, instead of being an invention of recent times, actually originated with the aborigines of Baja California?
I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if AA does.
Lera
Do you mean from personal experience Lera?
jrbaja - 6-30-2004 at 03:26 PM
I had no idea the Indians were so polite in those days. Language barrier problems? Just say what you mean
DanO - 6-30-2004 at 03:30 PM
As Ed Sullivan would say, sounds like a really good shew!
Not new
academicanarchist - 7-1-2004 at 04:43 AM
Mooning by Native Americans was not new, or unique to Baja California. During the so-called "Caste War" in Chiapas in the late 1860s, the native women
mooned the Mexican soldiers who were assaulting a fortified native position.
bajalera - 7-1-2004 at 07:02 PM
Thanks, AA, I knew you could be counted on to add interesting info.
But doesn't mooning as early as 1539 give Baja Californian's squatter's-rights status, or something?
Really big shew--good one, DanO.
Lera
Mike Humfreville - 7-1-2004 at 08:10 PM
It's difficult to moon and squat at the same time!
burro bob - 7-2-2004 at 12:57 PM
Did you know we have a blue moon this month?
What could cause that?
burro bob
I typed in "Blue Moon"
jrbaja - 7-2-2004 at 01:50 PM
and here's what it said:
Once in a Blue Moon ... is a common way of saying not very often, but what exactly is a Blue Moon?
According to the popular definition, it is the second Full Moon to occur in a single calendar month.
The average interval between Full Moons is about 29.5 days, whilst the length of an average month is roughly 30.5 days. This makes it very unlikely
that any given month will contain two Full Moons, though it does sometimes happen.
On average, there will be 41 months that have two Full Moons in every century, so you could say that once in a Blue Moon actually means once every
two-and-a-half years.
Better than a pink:moon:
Buenas 4 de julio fin de semana
Blue moons
Taco de Baja - 7-3-2004 at 10:05 AM
I recall several years ago there was a blue moon in January and again in March, meaning thate was NO full moon in February. 
Anyone know what is is called when a month does not have a full moon? 
And what
the recurrence interval might be?
[Edited on 7-3-2004 by Taco de Baja]