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Report on Ensenada Toll Road Incidents

sancho - 11-17-2009 at 10:07 AM

Picked this off P Banda Message Board, this is a posters
translation of an Article in the Ensenada Newspaper,
it is not mine, all things do not make the bajanomad
board, and to fend off you 'Pollyannas', I know this can
happen in the US. While some/most incidents may not target tourists


Translation starts here:
In El Vigia under a headline, "Scenic Road, expensive and dangerous," there was a report of the number of crimes carried out on the toll road between Tijuana and Ensenada. Up until Nov 13 of this year (starting from 2007 (I think that's what they meant) there have been 56 acts of aggression. There have been three homicides (including the death of the 2 year-old girl who was hit by a thrown rock last Saturday), one rape and five kidnappings. The other crimes were robberies, with violence, or `simple' ones.


The article lists the places where the incidents occurred; At kilometer 37 (from north to south) there has been a homicide, kidnapping, and carjacking, at kilometer 31 a kidnapping, at kilometer 34 kidnapping, at kilometer 58 a homicide, at toll booth 34 12 illicit acts have been reported, at toll booth 35 6 acts, on Bulevar 2000 and Popotla there have been 4 robberies, and at la Mision for assaults. The areas of greatest risk are around the rest stops near the toll booths in Rosarito.



The article states that this is the first time that figure like these have been reported by anyone, including state authorities.

Bajahowodd - 11-17-2009 at 10:48 AM

Just thinking that there's alot of traffic flowing through those places. Just maybe this stuff has been happening for along time, and it's just now being noticed and tallied.

DENNIS - 11-17-2009 at 10:57 AM

The crime is one thing. That Mexico is forthcoming with these statistics is noteworthy in itself. Not that long ago, they would deny any knowledge of these occurances. Bad press means bad tourism.

Has the US press picked up on this yet?

Bajahowodd - 11-17-2009 at 11:16 AM

The real negative for tourism would be if there was accurate reporting regarding tourists being victims. Just like the seeming universal messsage that the cartel violence appears to be contained within the warring factions and against police and politicians.

k-rico - 11-17-2009 at 11:23 AM

It would be good to know the time period involved. If it is from the beginning of 2007, that adds up to one incident about every 18 days.

How many people drive that road everyday?

arrowhead - 11-17-2009 at 01:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by k-rico
It would be good to know the time period involved. If it is from the beginning of 2007, that adds up to one incident about every 18 days.

How many people drive that road everyday?


Why? Even the most jaded Mexicophile knows that only a small fraction of the crimes in Mexico get reported. Mexicans do not trust the police and they know nothing will get done anyway. Do you really think that those 56 represent the sum total of all the crimes in the last two years on the Scenic?

k-rico - 11-17-2009 at 01:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by arrowhead
Quote:
Originally posted by k-rico
It would be good to know the time period involved. If it is from the beginning of 2007, that adds up to one incident about every 18 days.

How many people drive that road everyday?


Why? Even the most jaded Mexicophile knows that only a small fraction of the crimes in Mexico get reported. Mexicans do not trust the police and they know nothing will get done anyway. Do you really think that those 56 represent the sum total of all the crimes in the last two years on the Scenic?


Uh, that would be two years and 10.5 months.

KurtG - 11-17-2009 at 02:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by k-rico
It would be good to know the time period involved. If it is from the beginning of 2007, that adds up to one incident about every 18 days.

How many people drive that road everyday?


Also, it would be interesting to know the time of day, or night, when crimes took place. I tend to assume that most are not during daylight hours but that could be a bad assumption.

FACTS

wessongroup - 11-18-2009 at 06:29 AM

Perhaps these folks could assist as they provided the information for the article

"Semaphore Crime"

I use Goggle for my translations, maybe someone with actual knowledge of the Country's language could do a bit of home work for all on the subject. Not sure how to access "Data bases" here in Mexico provided by the government to the public (if they have such a thing)

If would be very useful data which could provide insight to many, many questions.

This as one continues to "hear" about bad things.. which are not quantified, identified, categorized and recorded it would seem..

just found this link on Georeference to data sets in Mexico, and will continue see what can be developed along these lines.. will pass on what is found.

http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/mexico.html



;);)

[Edited on 11-18-2009 by wessongroup]