BajaNomad - Strong rumor, El Teo arrested

Strong rumor, El Teo arrested

JESSE - 12-14-2009 at 09:02 PM

Police and organized crime sources in Mexico City and Tijuana say the military will soon announce his arrest near Cantamar a few days ago.

k-rico - 12-14-2009 at 09:09 PM

Wow! Near Cantamar!

Hope the rumor is true.

Wonder what his underlings will do if so.

woody with a view - 12-14-2009 at 09:15 PM

hang him by the chilito with piano wire..... at cantamar!

arrowhead - 12-14-2009 at 09:16 PM

Yeah, the local TJ papers have been all abuzz about that for a couple of days. And the mierda really hit the fan. There's been at least 21 murders in TJ since last Friday...probably more by now...I haven't read the papers since lunchtime.

noproblemo2 - 12-14-2009 at 09:23 PM

OMG!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT NEWS if it;s true.......

Might this be the Operation

ELINVESTIG8R - 12-15-2009 at 05:29 AM

AFN REPORT

[Edited on 12-15-2009 by ELINVESTI8]

capt. mike - 12-15-2009 at 06:50 AM

so who is he? the uncle??

ELINVESTIG8R - 12-15-2009 at 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by woody in ob
hang him by the chilito with piano wire..... at cantamar!

LIKE THEY DID TO THIS MAN - AFN REPORT

k-rico - 12-15-2009 at 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
so who is he? the uncle??

uncle would be "tio"

This guy is Eduardo Teodoro Garcia Simental, known as “El Teo”

He's gruesome. The king of mutilation and acid baths.

some background

It's turning out to be red, red Christmas in quaint and charming Tijuana.

Mostly dead bad guys, but too many good guys too.

[Edited on 12-15-2009 by k-rico]

Packoderm - 12-15-2009 at 07:43 AM

Is this the turning point in the war on drugs? Is the madness finally coming to an end?

k-rico - 12-15-2009 at 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by Packoderm
Is this the turning point in the war on drugs? Is the madness finally coming to an end?

Not likely, maybe fewer beheadings and overpass hangings tho. Or maybe more, depending upon the "quality" of his recruiting and training program.

The balance of power between the cartels (and the cops) needs return to get back to business as usual.

[Edited on 12-15-2009 by k-rico]

sanfelipebob - 12-15-2009 at 08:26 AM

Unfortunatly, this will probably not be the end but a new beginning.

Yes

wessongroup - 12-15-2009 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by sanfelipebob
Unfortunatly, this will probably not be the end but a new beginning.

Ditto's

monoloco - 12-15-2009 at 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Packoderm
Is this the turning point in the war on drugs? Is the madness finally coming to an end?

Don't worry, there will be somebody else to fill the vacuum.

DENNIS - 12-15-2009 at 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by monoloco
Don't worry, there will be somebody else to fill the vacuum.

His level of atrocious violence is what made him stand out. I hope that isn't duplicated.

Could Be True - I Hope

Gypsy Jan - 12-15-2009 at 12:42 PM

Heading south on the Cuota (toll road) last Thursday, we saw a big military blockade with lots of activity on the free road below about a half-mile north of the Cantamar exit.

Present in the group were several hummer-type vehicles and trucks mounted with belt-fed, fifty-caliber machine guns.

[Edited on 12-15-2009 by Gypsy Jan]

Taco de Baja - 12-15-2009 at 01:12 PM

One story via google translation:

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13-December-2009
4 accomplices of El Teo Apprehend
Jorge Ortiz Heras
During a raid by military personnel are detuvoa these men could not be reached on blancoprincipal

TIJUANA. Staff of the Navy Department and the Mexican Army did a deployment in the north of Ensenada and Rosarito Beach south to catch the local cell leader of the Sinaloa cartel, Teodoro Garcia Simental, El Teo and El Tres Letras.

However, only managed to arrest four men in one of the ranches cateados of municipalities in the area of Baja California coast, where the operator maintains control maverick of the criminal organization of the Arellano Felix in the transfer of drugs into the United States .

One of the raids occurred near the village of Puerto Nuevo, located on the free road Tijuana-Ensenada, where Marines and soldiers entered the Rose Ranch residential area located in the seaside armed with their faces covered by balaclavas . The workers were concentrated in a nursery property, while conducting raids in search of El Tres Letras or members of their cells.

The second operation was performed on a property that is located opposite the Rancho Reynoso, crossing the bridge Los Medanos. Another mobilization was done in the village Cantamar's delegation Primo Tapia in Playas de Rosarito. At that site achieved the arrest of four men.

During the raids ran the story that had been the arrest of Garcia Simental, who was in charge of the criminal operations of the Arellano Felix cartel until April 2008, which was replaced by the second generation native of Sinaloa clan. By registering the hand over, El Tres Letras joined the rival of the Arellano cartel.

The military and naval presence caused excitement among the residents of the places searched, mostly foreigners, since most of the residents in these places are from the United States and Canada.

El Tres Letras is among the most wanted criminals by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), for whom a reward is offered.

Note that the brother of El Teo, Marco Antonio Garcia Simental, El Cris, former operator of the CAC, is imprisoned in the Federal Social Rehabilitation Center of The Plateau, by organized crime and drug trafficking.

Original story in Spanish

Hook - 12-16-2009 at 08:54 AM

So, no Teo????

Musta been some horses nearby...............

CaboRon - 12-16-2009 at 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Packoderm
Is this the turning point in the war on drugs? Is the madness finally coming to an end?

NO, now the madness will surge on in earnest as all of the lower minions will battle to find a new leader, and each one will try to out do the other .....

tripledigitken - 12-16-2009 at 10:17 AM

More beheadings in TJ yesterday. There will be more violence than usual because of this for awhile.

k-rico - 12-16-2009 at 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
More beheadings in TJ yesterday. There will be more violence than usual because of this for awhile.

I'm thinking The Engineer (AFO) is making his move if El Teo is really out of the picture and am interested in who got who.

The following article says there was a note but the cops are keeping it to themselves

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/16/police-discov...

DENNIS - 12-16-2009 at 11:28 AM

Big police action today on the Bufadora road about a mile west of Maneadero...Ramos Pools. Went through both directions and have never seen so many machine guns in one place. Nothing seemed to be happening and no one was doing much at all except standing around the caution tape at the pools. They must have found something unsavory.
There must have been other things happening in the area at the same time. There were police vehicles, lights and sirens, going every which way on HWY-1.

ELINVESTIG8R - 12-16-2009 at 11:33 AM

If El Teo was not really caught he must be making a clean sweep of people who he thinks could have narced on him. Or, as K-Rico says El Ingeniero is in mop up mode to kill all of El Teo's men and claim El Teo's territory as his prize. Then again who the hell knows.

Ken Bondy - 12-16-2009 at 11:58 AM

This is all interesting but it won't change anything, except a few faces. It will all go on and on and on until the profit motive is removed.

DENNIS - 12-16-2009 at 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Ken Bondy
This is all interesting but it won't change anything, except a few faces. It will all go on and on and on until the profit motive is removed.

But, wouldn't legalization just create a blackmarket for the product?
Wouldn't all buyers be drawn to the cheapest price?

It May Sound Weird, But

Bajahowodd - 12-16-2009 at 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Ken Bondy
This is all interesting but it won't change anything, except a few faces. It will all go on and on and on until the profit motive is removed.

But, wouldn't legalization just create a blackmarket for the product?
Wouldn't all buyers be drawn to the cheapest price?

Where's the black market for booze and cigarettes? For the most part, people will be willing to accept a trade-off of possible higher prices in exchange for the removal of the stigma of doing something illegal. That said, let's suppose our society is moving toward legalization of pot. The problem we will be facing near term is that unless and until it is actually legalized, we will be living in a sort of netherland where the illegal sale and use of the stuff will be more tolerated. In my opinion, it is during this time when the black market will thrive.

DENNIS - 12-16-2009 at 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Where's the black market for booze and cigarettes?

It isn't a black market per se but, have you ever shopped at Duty Free? If it weren't required that the purchased products enter Mexico, surrounding liquor stores would go broke.

k-rico - 12-16-2009 at 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Quote:

Originally posted by Ken Bondy
This is all interesting but it won't change anything, except a few faces. It will all go on and on and on until the profit motive is removed.

But, wouldn't legalization just create a blackmarket for the product?
Wouldn't all buyers be drawn to the cheapest price?

I thought so too but apparently not. As told to me by a friend so it's just anecdotal, the medical pot stores are doing a great business. Prescriptions are easy to get, folks are going to the stores, buying the highest grade stuff, and having parties. The growers in northern CA are real happy.

The potheads with existing connections may still be using them, but now it's real easy for the newbies and those who prefer to stay away from illegal dealers.

But like I said, a story from a friend.

DENNIS - 12-16-2009 at 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico
The growers in northern CA are real happy.

I guess that's why the cartels are co-opting them too.

Bajahowodd - 12-16-2009 at 02:13 PM

As I mentioned earlier, assuming we are on track to actually legalizing and taxing the stuff, the medicinal pot stores fall into that transitional period, as do the growers in NORCAL. If this legalization actually does happen, you'll be buying Marlboro and Camel pot.

tripledigitken - 12-16-2009 at 03:01 PM

Bajahowodd,

If pot is made legal, the cartels will be competitors to Marlboro instead of the boys in Mendocino is all.

"gray market" imported cars is a huge business!

Has anyone heard of people smuggling in legal medications into the states?

There is a big business of selling off-road diesel for onroad use. ILLEGAL.

In my opinion, just because a commodity is legal doesn't prevent entities selling illegal substitues for it.

Point is, the legalization of pot will not eliminate the cartels.

Ken

capt. mike - 12-16-2009 at 03:10 PM

i don't think the Feds are going to stop hassling / raiding/ confiscating the CA. licensed state co-ops as they wish, nor will they stop the attack and eradication of the stealth fields in Nor Cal forests. Fed law trumps state laws to decriminalize. DEA is strong powerful and enjoys a ridiculous budget allocation to fight a pointless war.
war on drugs is good for politicians on all 3 sides to pony up with.

k-rico - 12-16-2009 at 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
i don't think the Feds are going to stop hassling / raiding/ confiscating the CA. licensed state co-ops as they wish, nor will they stop the attack and eradication of the stealth fields in Nor Cal forests. Fed law trumps state laws to decriminalize. DEA is strong powerful and enjoys a ridiculous budget allocation to fight a pointless war.
war on drugs is good for politicians on all 3 sides to pony up with.

"Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Wednesday outlined a shift in the enforcement of federal drug laws, saying the administration would effectively end the Bush administration’s frequent raids on distributors of medical marijuana."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/19holder.html

I'm feeling a bit low, I'm going to see that long haired doctor who has his office next to the McDoobies Medical Skunk and Bong store so I can get high. He's a cool dude, I think he also owns the store.

Bajahowodd - 12-16-2009 at 03:30 PM

It is my understanding that the FDA is currently contemplating taking pot off the schedule three status, primarily to allow more widespread research into possible benefits of its use. as it stands right now, there is like a single laboratory in the Southeast that has Federal license to even possess the stuff. Just have to think that the combination of Holder's directive and the downgrading of the drug class will serve to keep the Feds further at bay. Not saying they won't do something proactive if California voters actually approve the Legalization measure that will be on the ballot next year, but that's putting the cart before the horse. What wil be interesting is how the voter campaign will play out. Current polls appear to indicate that this thing could actually pass. Now, let's see which entities spend how much money to defeat it.

Beltran Leyva Killed

k-rico - 12-17-2009 at 07:19 AM

For those who are interested in the drug war and are trying to understand who the combatants are:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8417531.stm

[Edited on 12-17-2009 by k-rico]

Santiago - 12-17-2009 at 07:34 AM

Thanks for the map K-rico, glad to see there's no drug activity in Bahia de los Angeles. :smug:

Beltran bites the dust

bajaguy - 12-17-2009 at 07:47 AM

Looks like Beltran and some of his buddies bit the dust

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34457826/ns/world_news-americas

surfer jim - 12-17-2009 at 08:51 AM

Now for a map of the Mexican Government area of influence.....or maybe there is none?

Woooosh - 12-17-2009 at 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Looks like Beltran and some of his buddies bit the dust

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34457826/ns/world_news-americas

HUGE NEWS! They had a narco party staked-out and only managed to arrest the band for singing narco ballads. They got Beltrans in the dumpy condo he was hiding out in- covered in bullet holes now (him too).

El Teo is still out and about in Rosrito. He has a look that is totally forgettable- you would walk past him and not know it was him (even after seeing his photo). I have a "bad boy" nephew who knows Mr. Teo. He won't talk to me about him, but did say he has had conversations with Teo standing "as close as we are now uncle" (we were sitting next to each other at the time). Big Mexican families- go figure.

[Edited on 12-17-2009 by Woooosh]

It Is Amazingly Far Reaching

Bajahowodd - 12-17-2009 at 01:58 PM

Thought this interesting. A gang in British Columbia seems to resemble the Mexican cartels way too much. Big international reach. They grow pot in Canada, sell it there and in the US, launder the money in the US and then use the money to buy cocaine from the Mexicans.

Today's LA Times

U.S. sentences leader of Canadian drug gang to 30 years
Officials say British Columbia resident Clay Roueche's United Nations gang is 'equal parts corporate and violent,' and that his sentencing will mark a turning point in efforts to stem drug traffic.
B.C.Gangs

By Kim Murphy

December 17, 2009

Reporting from Seattle - The leader of a violent Canadian drug gang known as the United Nations -- which has transported millions of dollars in cocaine, marijuana, firearms and cash up and down the West Coast -- was sentenced Wednesday to 30 years in a U.S. federal prison.

Officials said that the sentencing of Clay Franklin Roueche, 34, marked a turning point in British Columbia's attempts to stamp out a gang war and slow the flood of illegal drugs across the U.S.-Canada border.

In the late 1990s, Roueche, who once made his living as a scrap-metal salesman and welder in the comfortable suburbs east of Vancouver, founded the notorious U.N. gang, which prosecutors called both "corporate and violent."

Its multinational membership is known for a dedication to Eastern philosophy and adherence to the credo "honor-loyalty-respect," which is emblazoned on the organization's jewelry, T-shirts and gravestones.

The gang's battle with the rival Red Scorpions for control of the area drug market has bloodied the streets of British Columbia's Lower Mainland. At least 20 people died during the first few months of this year -- many of them in brazen attacks in nightclub parking lots and on busy street corners.

British Columbia drug organizations have made huge profits selling the province's powerful variety of marijuana, known as B.C. bud, in the U.S. and using the revenue to buy Mexican-imported cocaine. Some estimates have put the province's annual drug economy at $6.3 billion.

According to U.S. authorities, the U.N. gang ran helicopter shipments of marijuana into the mountainous backcountry of northern Washington state, then laundered millions of dollars of cash in Los Angeles and purchased cocaine for shipment back to Canada.

"To law enforcement in Canada and the U.S., Clay Roueche is the prototypical drug kingpin -- the leader of a dangerous gang of criminals who have taken over a multimillion-dollar drug trade," U.S. District Judge Robert S. Lasnik said.

"He was the one who started the U.N. gang, and that [marks] him clearly as the leader, with a capital L," the judge said. "The massive amounts of drugs, the highly sophisticated means of transport, the huge amounts of money and the pervasive presence of weapons all argue for a lengthy sentence."

Prosecutors said that Roueche would probably be eligible for parole after serving about 85% of his sentence.

Conversations secretly recorded by law enforcement showed that Roueche had avoided traveling to the U.S. in recent years, knowing he might face arrest there. But when he flew to Mexico in May 2008 -- ostensibly for a wedding -- he was turned away by authorities there and deported to Texas, where he was arrested.

A investigation of the gang in 2005-06, conducted with the help of undercover informants and wiretaps, resulted in the seizure of 2,169 pounds of Canadian marijuana, 335 kilograms of cocaine, $2.03 million in U.S. currency and five firearms.

"He told one witness he was sending $500,000 a week" in drug profits to be laundered, Assistant U.S. Atty. Susan Roe told the judge. "That's $26 million a year. . . . The size of this operation was enormous."

Roe said that Roueche ran a business "in equal parts corporate and violent" that employed workers to transport drugs to New York, Chicago, Texas and Los Angeles -- as well as Canada. He traveled to countries including Vietnam, Japan, the Netherlands, Lebanon, Thailand, the United Arab Emirates, China, Venezuela, India, Australia and Mexico, Roe said.

"Clay Roueche was a world traveler because he had a global business empire," she said.

Defense attorney Todd Maybrown argued that Roueche had admitted his crimes but should not be blamed for the full volume of drugs crossing the border. Most of the violence involving U.N. gang members saw them as victims, not perpetrators, Maybrown added.

The defendant, dressed in khaki trousers and matching shirt, sat staring at the defense table during the sentencing, his mouth resting tensely on his clasped hands.

"When a person is subjected to a horrible circumstance, they find out who their friends are. I'm proud to say I have some of the best friends in the world," Roueche said in a brief address to the court, referring to the letters of support written to the judge from former employers, family members and his young children.

"I can't change what's already done," he said. "Life is one big lesson, and it's important to learn from our mistakes. I promise I will not make the same mistakes. . . . I believe circumstances always change: What's negative today is positive tomorrow. That's why I live my life free of fear. At this point, I'll keep marching forward."

kim.murphy@latimes.com

Woooosh - 12-17-2009 at 02:59 PM

Canada takes the Mexicans the USA won't. Very accommodating immigration policies. They embrace immigrants and set people up with ID papers, housing, food stamps and medical care while they go through the full immigration process. We know people from TJ who moved to Montreal and they feel like they landed in heaven.

So let's see... "Bad" Mexicans are allowed to emigrate to Canada (at least get their foot in the door for a few yeas). They call their Bad Boy friends- who set up the only business they know how to show up on time for and manage well- moving drugs.

Are Canadians really surprised? Or just surprised their open door policy bit them in the butt this quickly?

I don't hear Canadians complaining about the huge improvement in the food with the influx of Mexicans (and Asians). WTF is a Beaver Tail and who would take that fried rubbish over a Carne Asada Burrito from Roberto's?

[Edited on 12-17-2009 by Woooosh]

Bajahowodd - 12-17-2009 at 03:03 PM

Clay Franklin Roueche sound like a Mexican? :?:

Woooosh - 12-17-2009 at 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Clay Franklin Roueche sound like a Mexican? :?:

Bajahowodd - 12-17-2009 at 04:49 PM

"I don't hear Canadians complaining about the huge improvement in the food with the influx of Mexicans (and Asians). WTF is a Beaver Tail and who would take that fried rubbish over a Carne Asada Burrito from Roberto's?"

When I was growing up in New York in the 60s, There was no Mexican food anywhere. There was a sizeable Puerto Rican population around, but the PR cuisine was really nothing like Mexican. My first, so to speak, encounter with what was considered to be Mexican food was a taco from Jack-in-the-Box. In those days, that meant some weird thing containing mystery meat and spices that was deep fried and served almost/ maybe dripping. I feel privileged that I was, later in life, to be able to experience real Mexican food.

DENNIS - 12-17-2009 at 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
a taco from Jack-in-the-Box

They should have a contest to guess what that goop is they put in those things. It defys description.

tripledigitken - 12-17-2009 at 04:55 PM

What's amazing is how many of US have eaten them!

:lol:

Bajahowodd - 12-17-2009 at 04:58 PM

And, in NY in the 60's, it was all we had! But, in retrospect, we ate alot of garbage at 2 AM. Can't tell you how many White Castle hamburgers, if you can call them that, I ate after a night in the bars.

Edited for stupidity among other things.

[Edited on 12-18-2009 by Bajahowodd]

"On the Foad Again"

Gypsy Jan - 12-17-2009 at 05:03 PM

--Willie Nelson

"Hijacking a Thread Again"

--Various Nomads

Bajahowodd - 12-17-2009 at 05:07 PM

And what would this wonderful board be without some element of wandering?

arrowhead - 12-17-2009 at 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Big police action today on the Bufadora road about a mile west of Maneadero...Ramos Pools. Went through both directions and have never seen so many machine guns in one place. Nothing seemed to be happening and no one was doing much at all except standing around the caution tape at the pools. They must have found something unsavory.
There must have been other things happening in the area at the same time. There were police vehicles, lights and sirens, going every which way on HWY-1.

Oh, I read about that this morning in El Vigia, but I didn't save the link. Some 40-something year old "horiculturist" was gunned down while driving westbound on the road to La Bufadora. He had a prior criminal record in the US. They arrested some guys later in the day with a 9mm automatic weapon.

DENNIS - 12-17-2009 at 06:02 PM

Here's a translation [Google?] from the Vigía article. I ripped it off from the Punta Banda Newsletter.
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A loose translation from today’s El Vigia:

A horticulturist was put to death Wednesday morning in the lower town of Maneadero, is reported had U.S. criminal records.
The deceased was identified as Gildardo Olmos Anaya, 40 years old and was found inside a gray sedan type vehicle with California plates, that was a few yards from a popular resort area.
Witnesses said around 6:00 pm Anaya Olmos was traveling through the road leading to La Bufadora, with east-west orientation when at km 1 +500 is paired two units, one white colored panel and a sedan green.

Moving vehicles with the gunmen triggered a gun in at least six occasions, two of the bullets hit the driver's door and another the rear fenders.
Critically wounded, Gildardo Olmos came down the asphalt ribbon with intent to escape their attackers, however, lost control of the drive and crashed into a wall, where he was killed.
The murderers fled the scene on the highway west-east direction, quickly took to the streets were Cantu and proceeded north along the road Transpeninsular.
Elements arrived at the place of Expert Services of the State Police (PME), who found six spent shell casings on the 9-millimeter asphalt ribbon, also arrived on the prosecutor to certify the death.
Through a press release, the Attorney General of the State (PGJE) Gildardo Olmos reported that Anaya had U.S. criminal records.

Residents of the area where the killing occurred Olmos reported that Anaya had a year living on the ranch Magana, and who had allegedly violated his probation in the American union, as he was accused of committing crimes against health.

With the intention of protecting the place of the attack police officers arrived Municipal, State Preventive Ministerial State, Federal and the Mexican Army.
The body was brought to the facilities of the Forensic Medical Service (Semefo) for necropsy law.

Detainees with gun
At around 4:00 pm yesterday, in the same area where he was executed Gildardo Olmos horticulturist Anaya, Municipal Police officers arrested four individuals for carrying a 9-mm submachine gun, supplied with six cartridges.

The police report indicates that the suspects called Jesus Alejandro Magallanes said Sainz, 22 years of age; Forty Alejandro Guerra, 33, Gilberto Morales Ledezma, 18 and Jesus Francisco Gonzalez Arce, age 27, all residing in the Maneadero lower.

The assurance came about when the police officers attached to the town to tour the Salitral surveillance and observed the driver of a vehicle traveling north-south orientation did not observe a high drive.

Lack of Traffic Regulation led to the military intervened unit, once performed a review body to the crew and inspecting the vehicle found the gun.
The detainees were turned over to the prosecutor of federal law.

Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:45 am

Hook - 12-17-2009 at 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
a taco from Jack-in-the-Box

They should have a contest to guess what that goop is they put in those things. It defys description.

It's really no secret..............I believe Jack in the Box was owned by RALSTON PURINA at that time or shortly, thereafter. If it was after, maybe an exec had been to one and realized that the profit margin was much greater at JITB than OTC dog food.

So, they bought the company.

I have eaten a few of them in my time. In South OC in the early 70s, they were the only "restaurant" open after midnight and we were, uh, hungry late, quite often. :cool: