Was at the Del Mar Fair on Saturday and they were promoting this beer from Baja. Never heard of it before, but they told us it's been around since
the 1920's and is now available in the U.S. for the first time. Bob H - 7-6-2004 at 08:01 AM
Dave - 7-6-2004 at 09:10 AM
Mexicali beer was around until the '70's when the original brewery shut down. A few years ago a new brewery was built in Tecate.
I really like this beer. I place it third on my list behind Casta and TJ. It is now widely available in TJ, Rosarito, Ensenada, Mexicali and Tecate. bajalera - 7-6-2004 at 01:22 PM
Good beer, okay--but how about that "Baja, Mexico"? There were several posts blaming this shortcut on us gringos, a few weeks ago--has the brewery
been bought by Budweiser?
Lera elgatoloco - 7-6-2004 at 02:03 PM
Coors markets it.
Thanks, Dave!!!
[Edited on 7-6-2004 by elgatoloco]elgatoloco - 7-6-2004 at 02:12 PM
I think you read that wrong. Coors markets Mexicali. If they owned the brewery the beer would taste like horse p*ss. It don't.JESSE - 7-6-2004 at 06:20 PM
Pretty lame beer, people around here avoid it like it was catpee.bajalera - 7-6-2004 at 06:56 PM
Horsepee? Catpee? I used to think I was a pretty experienced drinker, but I've never tried those . . .
Lera
Dave and Jesse
jrbaja - 7-6-2004 at 06:59 PM
gots real messican inem, des probly tried everthingsJESSE - 7-6-2004 at 07:04 PM
Has anyone drank Corona when its not too cold?
Catpee i tell you, catpee.jrbaja - 7-6-2004 at 07:41 PM
Mexitron - 7-6-2004 at 07:51 PM
On those sad occasions when we ran out of ice in Baja we found that Superior was excellent warm, Corona not so good, and Tecate wretched.
Horsepee/Catpee
FrankO - 7-6-2004 at 08:03 PM
There were times, really, when I didn't give a chiite. If it was carboneted and cold, pee was just fine. Just remember when confused, mine is the
fullest and the coldest!
[Edited on 7-7-2004 by FrankO]
Dreadful stuff!!
thebajarunner - 7-6-2004 at 08:32 PM
There was this really sweet young thing at the Gigante doing a promo for the abovementioned swill.
2 six packs and you get a free t-shirt.
O.K.
So, one of our guys went for it, well the beer was dreadful, the shirt was adequate and the girl is still sweet.
This stuff is so thin that you could make coffee with it if you run out of water.
By the by, we went round and round on this one some months back....
I actually knew the son of the original brew meister (not bad stuff, very interesting! Not at all like the current drizzle.)
Baja Arriba!!Bob H - 7-7-2004 at 08:02 AM
They had samples at the county fair in Del Mar and I must admit (my wife too) that it is very very thin catpee, for sure.
Bob HAnonymous - 7-7-2004 at 03:23 PM
Well thanks for all that info, catpee-drinkers. I'm gonna stick with Negra Modelo.
Lera
Taste ??
MrBillM - 7-8-2004 at 04:54 PM
I wonder about all of the contributors who seem to be familiar with
the taste of urine produced by various animals. I've never been
inclined to sample urine from any source, but I guess "to each their
own". It does seem that if you're willing to drink that, though, any
beer should taste good in comparison.
animal excrement?
thebajarunner - 7-8-2004 at 10:40 PM
Having previously posted my thoughts on this strange brand of 'stuff' without any reference to animal excrement, liquid or solid, I feel free to
simply say....
Given a choice between drinking this brew or animal leakage I would choose the prior.... however, having never tasted the latter I am being somewhat
uninformed in my taste selection.
Be that as it may, I do prefer a good Pacifico or, even better, a Modelo Negra... or even better, a Carta Blanca (sigh)
Baja Arriba!!Germanicus - 7-18-2004 at 11:54 AM
Well, as a German (Germans are raised with beer, as our mom's got it in the nippels) I can't pass this opportunity for a comment.
Although the entire posting is a matter of taste > the one of you might like the beer posted here, others prefer catpee. This is the truth about
beer:
If beer does not stink (stick your nose in the glass and don't drink beer out of the bootle, that is uncivilized) it is a sweet brand.
Now, the one is preferrring sweet beer (like most Amaricans) the others are looking for the real beer taste and that taste is somehow bitter, lill
stinky.
In North America beer is brewed from rice.
i.e. Budwiser or Miller or, or. Most of'em. Nearly all of them. I do not know any American brand of beer which is brewed with only the original
engredians.
In Germany there is a so called Purity Law in existance.
Since 1516 by the way but still in effect.
Beer shall not contain any other ingrediant than: Water, BARLEY, Hops, Yeast and Malt.
BARLEY is the stuff the Americans are not using.
Not using Barley > no beer (catpee[sorry])
No chemicals in German beer at all !!!!
All American beers are made with chemicals like foam stabilizer etc.
>> They can make a beer with the foam in the middle !!
We have a brewery in our town, they mix a powder with water and the outcome is beer.
And the guy who tastes it is called the """""Brewmaster"""""".
Back to taste:
If I cant get my fingers on a German beer I prefer "XX > dos Equis"
That stuff comes real close to real pure beer > German made.
Good Mexican stuff!
Beer is NOT only a metter of taste, it's a matter of culture and 'knowing'.
Got to quit my posting, my squaw is calling > the beer is cold. David K - 7-18-2004 at 12:07 PM
Agree with the Dos Equis XX taste appeal, very easy drinking (the special lager, not the dark amber). I do like Pacifico when a slightly stronger
taste is desired.
How does your Aleman taste buds rate Pacifico?Mexitron - 7-18-2004 at 12:17 PM
Germanicus--I think you are referring to mainstream American beer--I agree--bad!
However, there are hundreds of smaller breweries in the U.S. which stay true to the original recipe....an example is Mendocino Brewing
Company.....great beer---here's the descriptions of their beers:
sorry for not to answer that question.
I never had the chance to try Pacifico.
But out of your comment, David, I am guessing that you too are a beer- connesseur.
Real beer must be somehow strong tasting, lill bitter (for sure not sweet > than I can drink soda) what I said, somehow a lill stinky smelling.
Then the taste is just right.
But I'm looking foreward to taste all of those Maxican brands.
With Corona i.e. that taste really chemical.
Well, I don't like to swollow too much chemicals (maybe someday my 'little head' is falling off?)
yeeeeeehaaaaa!
have fun on a Sunday afternoon
Germanicus Bob H - 7-18-2004 at 12:34 PM
Germanicus,
You are correct about the Germans and their seriousness about beer. Give me a glass of ice cold Erdinger or Paulaner hefe wei?bier and I'll be a very
happy camper. Even a nice thin glass of K?lsh would be ok too!!
For those who do not know, the Germans have a special glass for different types of brews. That's serious stuff!
Bob H
[Edited on 7-18-2004 by Bob H]
CERVEZA
Capt. George - 7-18-2004 at 01:09 PM
Here I am in the last Islands of the Florida Keys minding my own business and arrives the subject of Cerveza....Oh, well, it's six PM
somewhere....think I'll suck down a couple of Pacificos....bring on the limons......expensive, $8.00 for a sixer,
twelve for twenty back home in Baja...
aahhhhh, baja
el vikingo
eGermanicus - 7-21-2004 at 07:21 AM
O.K., this is my offer to all of you nice beer-drinking-guys:
I am preparing a 6 month trip to the Baja.
Entering @ Tecate and driving all the way down towards Cabo.
The trip shall learn me whatever possible about the Baja and we (my squaw and me) are looking for a place we can buy to construct and later run a
First Class RV-Park.
On the way southwards I am offering you to meet me and in exchange for some good German Beer > you might name the brand if you wish < y'all give the
the best info and answer my questions to the best of your knowledge.
I just need to know where you are living and where I can meet you and the deal is settled.
And "yes" we Germans do not drink out of the bottle (that's what we did when we were about 1 year old - but since then > nomore) as it is somehow
'uncivilized' and does not give us the smelly taste of the beer.
So, whoever wants to taste good German Beer in exchange for serious info about Baja and all related questions, please send me a u2u.(guess it is not
appropriate to continue here in this forum with private stuff and exchange addresses in public)
Folks don't you worry, I can haul a lot bottles an kegs and sixers.
Have fun today!
GermanicusGermanicus - 7-21-2004 at 07:34 AM
A special bet to Bob H.
Bob, you mentioned 'Erdinger' Beer.
I would like to make a bet with you.
I do have Erdinger (Weisse, Hefeweizen or Pils)
And I do have an original glass from the Erdinger Brewery in Germany.
Now my bet:
I do fill that Erdinger glass with any Erdinger beer you want.
I bet to pay for 3 days all expanses in a restaurant for a nice dinner in the evening for you and your squaw(if available),
that you do not empty said original German glass from Erdinger in one attempt and less than 10 sec.
What do you bet against this?
Germanicuswhodat54321 - 7-21-2004 at 07:50 AM
those glasses are 1 litre aren't they?
my brother served in Augsburg and has quite a collection of those things.
not easy to do in 10 seconds, but why rush a good beer?David K - 7-21-2004 at 08:02 AM
Germanicus, I would like to meet you and could do it with Bob H as he lives closer to the border in north San Diego, while I am 30 miles north of him
in Oceanside. Perhaps give you an early sample of Pacifico which is widely sold here in So. California. Although beer bought in Mexico seems to always
be a bit better tasting than imported.
Tecate, for example, is much better tasting in Mexico than Tecate sold in California (which I barely can stand, weird isn't it?). Pacifico here tastes
about the same as Pacifico there, however. As does Dos Equis... yum!
When will you be near San Diego (if you want to cross at Tecate, we will have to drive east to see you near there... perhaps at Potrero Campground,
near Campo?)?
Bob, sound like a plan? I wonder if Germanicus smokes cigars? (caugh,caugh)
[Edited on 7-21-2004 by David K]Bob H - 7-21-2004 at 08:09 AM
I am IN on this for sure. Audrey can bring some fresh German beer home from her many trips there. And, then, we can compare with Pacifico - I mean,
I like Pacifico, but when it comes to German Beer (not the imported stuff, but the real stuff from Germany) I must favor that over Pacifico. But, it
would be fun anyway. I have several 1 litre beer glasses.... Bring it on!
Bob H
Beer
gilmarlin - 7-21-2004 at 10:31 AM
I too prefer the Dos XX green bottle now to the other pilsners in Mexico. The Bohemia however is still a great full bodied beer, more German like.
Pilsner Erquell still rules the pilsners though.Germanicus - 7-21-2004 at 12:03 PM
well, I don't wanna fool you too much.
This glass is 3(three) liters,,,, and 'yes' Germanicus smokes cigars > sometimes (espacially after the 22 glass of beer.)
So there will be a meeting - as I know - with David K and Bob H.
Agreed!
And I will fill that glass for each of you.
I'm looking foreward to meet you guys.
That will be somewhere in September > David knows why.
Have fun meanwhile
Germanicus Bob H - 7-21-2004 at 03:26 PM
Germanicus, a three litre glass? WOW. I don't think I could finish even one litre in 10 seconds. Anyway, I'd rather sip and enjoy the beer anywho.
I talked to David K to day and we'll try to hook up on your way down in September.
Bob HJESSE - 7-21-2004 at 08:51 PM
Okay Jesse, that means you bring some of that Mexican Castel Ale to our next BBQ, verdad?
I did enjoy the new Mexicali Beer... and am happy to know it comes from Tecate (the water in Mexicali's Rio Nuevo is muy malo)! Germanicus - 7-22-2004 at 07:27 AM
Hi Jesse,
that beer > Casta, you are introducing in your post sounds to me to be a VERY good one.
(I do like the Baja already although I never was there, because they do have gooood beer down there. And beer is a part of life, not only lifestyle)
I am eager to try it.
It is brewed according to the purity law in Germany.
From Barley,Hops,Water, Yeast (and maybe Malt), nothing else.
SO? Jesse, where are you living?
Why don't you join in on that beer-testing-meeting in September in San Diego?
I do have enough 'steins' that everyvbody who joins in can enjoy his beer out of a cooled stein with lid.
(the lid is there that no sparrow can chit in the beer)
By the way guys, I lived in LaJolla for some time and know San Diege quite well.
(And met a bandido grande who swindeld me out of a lot of money > car business, but that's some time ago)
Well, let's look foreward to that.
Have fun meanwhile!
GermanicusBob H - 7-22-2004 at 08:34 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Germanicus
I lived in LaJolla for some time and know San Diege quite well.
(And met a bandido grande who swindeld me out of a lot of money > car business, but that's some time ago)
When were you living in LaJolla and in the car business? We may have something in common here. JESSE - 7-22-2004 at 11:35 AM
I will bring some along in the next Baja meeting.Germanicus - 7-22-2004 at 04:56 PM
To Bob H,
I lived in LaJolla about 12 years ago.
I bought Exotics like Ferrari and Jaguars etc.
There was a guy named Mike Caldwell & son (don't know his name anymore)
I bought i.e. four Jaguar from Caldwell and paid him to restore the cars.
(XK140DHC; MarkTwo3.8; XK150Coupe; XKE3.8)
I paid him a lot of money and he did just nothing on the cars.
When they arrived in Germany, there were a lot of misssing parts etc.)
Bad, bad experiance!!)
If you wanna know more, lets do it by u2u, O.K.?
Have fun in the car business
GermanicusGermanicus - 7-23-2004 at 12:07 PM
To Maxitron and David K.
PLEASE look away now and overlook the next two newlines:
Mendocino Brewing>Blue Heron/Pale Ale, I could get my hands on a sixer today because it was mentioned here.
TERRRRRRRRIBBLLLLLLEEEE!!!
Not concidered to be beer.
Something like medicine for elderlies.
So far, it is hurting my throat.
(Hopefully I can keep my little forehead when having a pee later)
O.K. David and Mexitron, you can open your eyes again and read from here on.
I do like some Mexican beers very much.
I never found any American made beer which I can consider of beeing beer.
Sorry guys, don't wanna hurt your feelings, but my beer-swollowing-experianced-throat becomes a rebel and wants to seperate from my body if I allow
such stuff running through.
Sorry!
Germanicus
Germanicus
movinguy - 7-23-2004 at 03:40 PM
You probably know that your European (i.e. German/Czech) beers use significantly different hops than most American microbrews. I am surprised you
like Mexican beers because they are light on both body and hops (otherwise you couldn't drink 20 in a day).
If you pass through San Diego on your way to Baja try some of the local Stone brewing products - best stuff in the land.bajalera - 7-23-2004 at 07:10 PM
To get back to Mexico, Germanicus, what is this nonsense about drinking out of the bottle being uncivilized? Restaurants down here that provide cloth
napkins sometimes bring you beer in the bottle--and you would actually ask for a glass?
How rude.
As an aficionada of Negra Modelo, I'll have to admit that glasses are a good idea--that gold foil is pretty but hard to peel off.
Salud!
bajaleraMexitron - 7-23-2004 at 07:22 PM
OuchGermanicus - 7-23-2004 at 08:35 PM
well, it did not quite come throughwhat exactly I ment.
Me too, I'm s o m e t i m e s drinking beer out of the bottle.
i.e. when outside > grilling/BBQ etc.
> But prefer a stine with a lid that no sparrow can pee in my beer.
What I ment was sitting in a nice (formal) restaurant. Yes, I will ask for a glass by that occasion.
Is that rude?
No, it's style!
And I did that at many occasions here in the U.S.
But the American Restaurants (mostly) do not have these fine glasses like they are used in Europe.
And: I never had any trouble , whats-o-ever when asking for a glass. Not even that the waiter was looking rude at me.Bob H - 7-24-2004 at 08:47 AM
The best part of drinking beer in Germany is all the special glasses they have for all the different types of beers. A good beer along with a well
prepared schwein haxe with a knoedel cannot be beat!
Bob H
Mexicali Beer
The Gull - 7-24-2004 at 09:29 AM
Mexicali beer was definitely around before the 70's. We were buying 'Short dogs' (small squatty bottles of about 8-10 ounces) in a case for $2.00 in
1968.
It was cheap and cold, like an ex-wife.
[Edited on 7-24-2004 by The Gull]bajalera - 7-25-2004 at 03:27 PM
At a restaurant in Mexico, demanding a glass to put your beer in strikes me as being right down there with asking the waiter to turn down the music
because it's too loud. Not "style," but a rude Gringo thing.
LeraBob H - 7-25-2004 at 04:03 PM
How about demanding a "chilled glass". FaaahgitAboutit!! Why not just keep the ice cold beer in the ice cold bottle that it came in?
hUhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Correction to Gull
thebajarunner - 7-25-2004 at 06:37 PM
You are correct... Mexicali Beer was around in and before the '70s.
This stuff ain't that... or, conversely that ain't this.
No way.... this stuff is dreadful, the original was 'interesting'
Baja Arriba!!Dave - 7-26-2004 at 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by bajalera
asking the waiter to turn down the music because it's too loud. Not "style," but a rude Gringo thing.
Lera
Lera, how is asking to turn down loud music being rude? Isn't playing music at high volume itself rude and inconsiderate?bajalera - 7-26-2004 at 05:57 PM
In Mexico, Dave, I've never considered loud music rude and inconsiderate. It's simply how Mexicans seem to like their music in bars and restaurants.
Since it's their country, it seems to me their standards of what's-too-loud should apply--even though different from yours and mine.
I'm not sure there even IS a too-loud in Mexico. Maybe Jesse or Antonio would be kind enough to give us the word on this.
Lera
[Edited on 7-27-2004 by bajalera]Germanicus - 7-26-2004 at 07:26 PM
Folks, this discussion is - my guess - not worth to be continued.
A) Drinking beer out of a glass: If I am a guest in a better restaurant > dining in style.
I am certainly asking the waiter for a glass > and he will not take this as rudeness.
If I am hanging around in a 'bodega' (what's the mexican word for it?) > lots of workers around in their blue-jeans, well I'm drinking my beer out of
a bottle.
B) If I am in a better restaurant, dining with my wife, paying $50 or more per person in Mexico, (about $100 in the US) and the music is outrages
loud, I will certainly ask the waiter "if there is the possibility to turn it down" as I want to communicate with my wife without jelling into her
ears.
Sitting or hanging around in a bodega, I do have to except another level of music anyway > and I will.
No difference if I'm in the US or in Mexico or in Nepal or on the moon.
I will adjust my requests to the style of the facility I'm a guest in, but I will speak out my mind and desires > also adjusted to wrong levels of
service to a paying guest.
Bammm that's it.
Have fun with us Germans > we are not as bad as it seems to be. But we speak out our opinon > in contrary to many Americans who are just shutting up
because of what they think is so called " good behavior."
Germanicus
So what's the point?
GermanicusJESSE - 7-27-2004 at 12:09 PM
I hate loud music, and Mexicans ARE loud, the one thing that peees me off about my countrymen, is that they seem to get off by having others hear
their crap, i hate that!!! as far as i am concerned, they can go into a room and blast the music so loud that they bleed from their hears, just dont
let me hear your ugly tambora music as well.
I have been known to counter a late night loud banda party with a blast of my own, i play very loud Led Zeppelin at them and they get the message that
i dont like to hear their crap as much as they like to hear mine. bajalera - 7-27-2004 at 08:41 PM
