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MARJORIES MELTDOWN

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Mexicorn - 12-29-2009 at 08:11 PM

Well fellow Nomads that trash talking Marjorie (who runs a website that will not be mentioned) has clearly experienced a mental meltdown. If you read the blog she/he/it who loves to talk bad about all of us Nomads has either crawled into a bottle of booze/ pills or whatever and nutted up. Man I feel sorry for her husband life partner or housepet. The girls clearly off the hook!

Happy new year fellow Nomads I'm glad to be on board for 2010-

The Mexicorn

[Edited on 1-3-2010 by Mexicorn]

noproblemo2 - 12-29-2009 at 08:23 PM

Read it today also....Not a website, a blog

[Edited on 12-30-2009 by noproblemo2]

comitan - 12-29-2009 at 08:34 PM

Mexicorn

I think you would only feel that way if you were Fulano. :?:

JESSE - 12-29-2009 at 09:11 PM

Thats one crazy human.

Mexicorn - 12-29-2009 at 10:17 PM

I stand corrected it's a blog not a website. Read the comments in the addios fulano post. It shows what a classy eloquent person the writer is. And of course the writer refers to Nomads as white supremists.

Whatanutjob!
And Dennis thought I left my padded room at the VA for this abuse...

OH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!

Debra - 12-30-2009 at 01:24 PM

WOW! Think I'm glad I don't know what you guys are talking about :cool:

Bajahowodd - 12-30-2009 at 01:39 PM

I guess the title of the blog turns out to be prophetic. :biggrin:

Bajahowodd - 12-30-2009 at 01:53 PM

Watch out! Fulano may be lurking.

Ha! I had to chuckle at this:

k-rico - 12-30-2009 at 02:01 PM

Sunday, December 27, 2009
12/27 VIOLENCE TIJUANA CASES OF TUNNEL VISION

MR. DUNLAP, DOWN IN PUNTA BANDA-LA BUFADORA, LOOK FAMILIAR ?? DO YOU THINK HE WAS A NOMAD?

dunlap.jpg - 32kB

ELINVESTIG8R - 12-30-2009 at 03:22 PM

How Sad!

I’M SO RONERY

Another Sad Day.

[Edited on 1-1-2010 by BajaNomad]

[Edited on 1-2-2010 by ELINVESTI8]

DianaT - 12-30-2009 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
And that was from before she went nuts. Of course, most, uh, Obama-ites are a few nopalitos short of a cactus, so it doesn't take much to make them go full on looney tunes.

I'm sorry, did I say that out loud?

Yes, and it says a lot about who you are. Shows as much class as that woman. :no:

Sad, really sad

[Edited on 12-30-2009 by DianaT]

comitan - 12-30-2009 at 04:42 PM

It looks like he's looking to get banned by this site too, or at the least a dunce in the corner. Or the the unholy thought off topic.

Mexicorn - 12-30-2009 at 09:14 PM

This is weird... I point out the obvious and she in turn basically calls all of us right wing republican facists.

Marjorie set your sights on the real nut jobs like Jeff Schwilk of the San Diego Minute men whom I know is an avid reader of your blog.

Get your stuff in order kid then come back and see us.

How are your sixteen cats?
You crazy lonely old woman drowing your sorrows in a carafe of Padre Kino.

Sharksbaja - 12-30-2009 at 09:19 PM

He, or she, or it obviously (no not Margie), knows all of us so well. BTW dipchit, most of your radical right Palinites and Limbaugh worshippers live in the off-topic(except DK). You might be in better company there.

Holy Madness - Make of it What You Will

Gypsy Jan - 12-30-2009 at 09:37 PM

In Praise of Holy Madness

The Wild Palms of Etowah

By Joe Bageant

"One mark of our soulless New American Century is the lack of respect for saintly madmen. By that I mean holy seers of the Blakean-Coleridge stripe who could be found on America's streets as recently as the hippy era. The kind of crazy adepts and enlightened iconoclasts honored by Allen Ginsberg and the beats, holy foolishness in the tradition of Saint Simeon with the dead dog tied to his waist and throwing nuts at the congregation, or Tibetan lama myonpas and India's avadhutas. Perhaps such holy madmen are still out there among the homeless and the crack hoars.

Maybe there are legions of Zen alcoholics and the like, and maybe we have lost the ability to see them in this season of imperial hubris, consumer fatigue and existential numbness. But I don't think so. I know crazy wisdom and saintly madness in men's eyes when I see it, and I am not seeing it very often in America these days. It has been outlawed by the Republicans and soundly condemned as Devil's work by the Christian Right.

Of course if the dear reader is one who believes science defines all reality and that men possess no spiritual aspect, then it might be best to turn off the computer right now and go out for a beer or click on another story, because I am of the opposite disposition. So much so in fact that I am convinced things like grace really exist and that mankind is so murderously full of chit because it cannot apply itself to higher laws, laws which must be called spiritual for lack of a better term.

Having cleared the air between you and me (assuming you're still reading), let me tell you about a rare saintly madman I laid eyes and heart upon recently. He is presently eating very expensive pies and watching television with his dogs in his own personal hell out in Etowah, Tennessee, the former "Rubberized Hair Capital of the World."

At home in hell

For the past two days Bob D---- has lain stupefied in his chlordane insecticide soaked house in Etowah, alternating between near coma and electrifying terror of opening his mail or answering the phone. Chlordane poisoning has destroyed his nervous system, rendered him freakish and weird, and in his own words "with an agonized countenance, a bony 'horn' growing out of the middle of my forehead, strange disoriented behavior, and fat. I didn't get old. I got killed." And on it goes ... "I took my dogs to the vet last week where 'substance abuse' on my part was suspected," he tells me. "Once I got locked out of my car, and the police took me in for drug testing. I'm used to the horror of it all. I noticed in one of your columns that you were struggling to remain objective after watching a video beheading. That's my life. Early on, I got this 'view of things.' I keep asking myself, 'Why would I, of all people, know these things?' I have alienated all my friends and relatives. My closest acquaintances know NOTHING about me. And the question lingers always: 'Why would I, of all people, know these things? Am I just crazy?'"

Home for Bob D---- is a sprawling old Victorian ruin on an entire city block, complete with fountains and lighted gardens, with more white fence than the state of Kentucky and covered parking for 10 cars, paved parking for another 20. This is the materialist nightmare of his late father who was raised in a boxcar and obsessed with the American Dream. He advised his wife, in the event of his death, to move immediately "or be ruined financially." The old man died twenty years ago and his admonishment has become prophecy. The place is a money trap beyond anything yet known, and as Bob carries pills to his 90-plus-year-old mother between his own attacks of chlordane poisoning, she loudly refuses to move, despite the roof and the floors and the ongoing disasters. Now everything's gone but her small pension and health insurance. The roof is shot, furniture, rare books and carpets ruined by rain long ago. So Bob D---- spends his days amidst buckets and pans full of water watching videos and eating expensive Edwards pies:

As you probably know Joe, a Christian company cooks those Edwards pies, and they are -- to my taste -- decadent. Next to a really good orgasm (the once-in-five-years kind), the Turtle Pie, or Key Lime or Lemon -- well, it's not something that should be discussed in decent company. One of Edwards' likeable things, in addition to the pies, is what they call "personality pans". There's a Bible verse embossed in the aluminum under the pie. Surprise! "God is love" "All good things come to him who waits" "Do unto others ..." Nothing heavy, just fun wholesome Bible verses. Anyway, one day I was eating my pie, eagerly anticipating the happy moment when the Bible verse would be revealed. As I pushed aside the last lump of gooey lime and lard, there it was, one of those "jaw on the floor moments" (still scraping) ... "He who will not work, let him not eat!"

STARVE THE MOTHERflockER! Implicit in this is everything I despise, the assumption that the poor are worthless scum and "won't work", blah. It's about money, taxes ... It's about corporations. And it's embossed onto the bottom of a $10 pie (as opposed to a $2 pie, if you get my point) The spirit of the moment, after eating a pie with enough calories to restore all the starving children in Calcutta, was another right-wing "flock YOU" in the name of the Lord. IT'S THOSE flockING POOR PEOPLE, gosh darnMIT.

As to the videos, Bob has made an intense study of Oliver Stone's 1990 ABC TV miniseries, Wild Palms, which he deems prophetic. Set in 2006, Wild Palms begins with a nightmare, a rhinoceros in an empty swimming pool, symbolizing "the beast in place of the baptism," Bob asserts. "The hero runs inside to the screams of his children where, if you look closely, a shadow forms a distinct cross on their bedroom door from which hideous screams emerge. It is about media manipulation, especially through television. Corporations are running wild and their goon squads are beating the uncooperative; torture is discussed and executed by children. There has been a ‘synthetic terrorist attack' which gave the police ‘broad new powers.' I think it is damned weird that Wild Palms was so correct right down to the specific year. All cultures have their own prophets that are every bit as important as those in the Bible, but the prophet of course is never recognized in his own time."

Agonizing divinity

The first time I experienced a human window into "something other" was in 1972 with hipster holy man Stephen Gaskin. At one point it was very clear that he was experiencing samadhi, the nature of which could be glimpsed. Another time was the birth of my children, that moment when the infant opens its eyes briefly and gives you that unearthly glance of recognition, and the whole room is filled with a funky penetrating electricity that literally smells like the flesh being made holy … as the kid's eyes give off a flash that says, "Yes we know each other and always will across space and eternity."

But there is also the terrible anxious look of the sadhu of the burning ghats, the madman, and others connected to that same eternity from which the baby's consciousness flashed. I have seen far more of this than the blissful kind, which should probably tell me something about the nature of things. Sometimes it is the ecstasy in a Hare Krishna's eyes, other times it is the look of the universal agony of existence, the sort to which we respond when we behold a legless beggar in Varanasi, India or a homeless schizophrenic in Washington D.C. or Scranton. Agony/divinity. About the worst news I ever got from the pursuit of these things was that enlightenment and truth is all suffering and no bliss, which was always the point. There is no free prize at the bottom of the Cracker Jack box. Just increased consciousness of the world's suffering. Anyway, when Bob sent me an email, part of which is excerpted below, I suspected I was about to meet another mad adept, or maybe just a madman, either of which prospect always delights me.

Rubber hair transfiguration

As to Etowah being the Rubberized Hair Capital:

When I was young, my home town Etowah was the rubberized hair capital of the world. There was a BIG sign at the city limit informing travelers of that dubious horror/honor. The stuff was bright green. It was hog hair coated with stiff, green rubber. People actually did that for a living -- they did that with their lives. Then came the Eighties and the hair plant closed down. All those deaths and maimings on the loading platform of the rubberized hair plant rendered pointless. A few of the dismembered and widowed collected big settlements from the railroad or the plant but, usually, they spent it all frivolously and now live in penury -- but with some stories to tell. The richest people in town, the rubberized hair barons, went bankrupt and their family estate is now a Rodeway Inn and McDonalds. Spooky transfigurations took place. The carcasses of abandoned textile mills have been turned into what might loosely be called "outlets,” cavernous holes simply DUMPED full of discarded, outdated, broken merchandise. When I say, "DUMPED", I mean, "DUMPED". It is piled up on the floor, sometimes to the ceiling. Much caution is required when walking through lest one be crushed under shifting/falling merchandise. I'm not kidding. Now if you venture far enough back into one of these monstrosities -- and down, down, into the belly -- you will find amidst the crumbling, raw subterranean concrete and filthy molded block and exposed, termite eaten wood... suddenly a gleaming modern glass facade and, behind it, luxurious big-city-like air-conditioned offices where well-dressed people seem to be doing something useful while sitting on polished chrome and leather furniture with fake Motherwells and Pollocks on the wall. It's just flocking weird . . .

Deepak Chopra, get a job!

East and West, for the most part religion is synonymous with fraud, with the Pope, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and our president's phony religious values being the icing on the Christian cultural cake of our times. Bob D---- sees the same things in the low-fat spiritual icons of the left and the New Agers:

How has Deepak Chopra managed to express such Republican conservative values with no criticism whatsoever from the left? Chopra is the ultimate example of the wolf in sheep's clothing, a denizen of Oprah, and a spiritual guru for the superficial, self-serving rich in a miserable, dying world. Listen to him carefully. It's the Benny Hinn/Robert Tilton/Creflo Dollar "gospel of prosperity". (If you're poor, you're ungodly, and you got what you deserve. God prospers his people.) Chopra states overtly that material success is directly related to spiritual attainment. Oh, really? It would be news to Christ and Buddha.

I will concede the poor are spiritually bankrupt, but no more so than the rich. No more so than the many monasteries and religious communities I have visited. IT'S ALL OF US (on the other hand, the left seems to think the poor are all saints by virtue of their poverty. And I DO think the poor have a more valid excuse for their crimes.) Then Chopra drives in the stake, decrying "throwing money at social problems" and the says, "where you see poverty it is the expression of a deeper impoverishment -- the soul, the spirit screaming for nourishment". Conspicuous by its absence from Chopra's words is any mention of integrity, ethics, morals, self-sacrifice, commitment, and renunciation. The message, essentially, is, "flock YOU! GET A JOB!" Another rhetorical point scored for General Motors and Phillips Petroleum. God comes home to the Wall Street Journal. But this IS America, where everybody is a businessman and Chopra makes his pitch with that sweet, smiling, gentle face reminiscent of Ted Bundy. Chopra's place is in Beverly Hills telling rich people what they want to hear -- for money. And will Chopra read this, sneak in while I'm asleep and beat me to death with $150 ayurvedic bars of soap in one of his Versace silk stockings?

Trim your beard

"If the scissors are not used daily on the beard, it will not be long before the beard, by its luxuriant growth, is pretending to be the head."
-- Sufi mystic Nur ad-Din Abd ar-Rahman Jam

Joe, it is all about the center. Getting away from the destructive, divisive periphery (the beard growing out of control, ritual, dogma, concepts, arguments) and right to the universal core germinal point (the face behind the beard, out of which the beard grows) "from within which all religion arises and back to which, ideally, it should lead us.” When I occasionally pass through center while on my way from one periphery to another, IT IS HEAVEN. But today it is warm and raining. The chlordane is reeking. I am having much trouble now, especially opening the mail. Still, those who have been to the center, who have at least perceived, if only for a moment, the face behind the beard, have a responsibility to be critical of those who remain at the periphery with their beards growing out of control.

Meanwhile, the sheer carnage of our terrible national enterprise is staggering! Yet no one mentions the back rooms of research facilities filled with mutilated tortured beings kept alive for study or force-fed Drano to see how long it takes fifty-percent of them to die. I am always astonished at how very few people know what goes on in medical and corporate research labs, not to mention the meat industry. "For every action..." It's the nature of reality. It's physics. There will be a reckoning for the culture that creates a holocaust of that magnitude. The fact that there is something terribly wrong with anyone who does such a thing, and that this same "lack" will therefore affect EVERYTHING he/she does, eventually creating magnificently awful problems. Elevating carnage to cultural protocol is very dangerous. And official rationalization of it is disastrous. Why isn't someone talking about these things? We have no examples. We have no ideals. We have only corruption and self-justifying silliness in service of capitalism as it runs further and more terribly amok.

And to the forces on the left trying to combat all this I say: The realization IS compassion." "Consciousness" and "heart" arise together. They are one thing. The compassionate try to help even their most despicable brothers. That's why it is written: "Without love, I am nothing." Yet the left throws it all away. Though the left is so often correct in principle, it becomes merely the other side of that one counterfeit coin we have been offered. True spirituality is the answer. Therefore, I say to the left, "don't throw religion away; find out what it's about". And intelligent smug people on the left will answer, "There is no God!" Yet that statement is unperceptive, pointless and offensive.

Be compassionate, but be careful. I saw a fighter pilot on the 700 Club who described what sounded like an homoerotic orgasm experienced while shooting down some enemy planes killing the pilots. He interpreted the rush of killing them as "finding God". God had visited him there in the c-ckpit. But he and Danuta talked glowingly about it. We have to be careful around these people. Very careful.

Anyhooooo . . . It is raining tonight and right now I am finishing off my liver with orange soda and vodka. The wind is blowing so hard there'll be no roof left tomorrow. And to that I offer a hearty, "GOOD flockING RIDDANCE!" Last night I was getting together my mother's "next-day's" medicine -- her prescriptions and other pills. But I forgot what I was doing, drew a glass of water and took them myself. HA! THERE'S NO HOPE! I have a case of beer and a pizza, so LOOK OUT, MOMMA!

And so this is all very surprising to me -- in fact, shocking -- what you are doing. Respecting me like this. I'm a little scared you'll find out who and what I really am. Nobody has ever taken me seriously. All my words are a humble attempt to point at the moon. Like the Buddha said, "my teaching is a finger pointing to the moon, but all of you are looking at my finger.” Of course, the finger pointing to the moon is analogous to "trimming one's beard"… the teaching, the teacher, the ritual, the dogma, the practice, language, even the concept of "god” … all of that is also the beard which "grows out” of the face and obscures it. Trim it daily.

Now I ask you this: What do you call the opposite of someone who is out of his mind? A poet? A divine monster? We do not much acknowledge horror in this country, except the petty stage-managed kind for which we have developed such an appetite, such as Terri Schiavo's morbid gurgling, etc. Yet none of it comes close to the type of horror and grandeur that's lacking in our life, the kind from which we flee, such as our own graves or the sight of the things we do to sentient others so long as they are poor, voiceless, out of sight, or perhaps have four legs. And even then, the only way we can keep up the ghastly charade is by deeming the saints amid us as madmen, and anointing the truly depraved among us kings, avoiding at all costs our divine monsters."

Mexicorn - 12-30-2009 at 09:49 PM

Sorry Jan you lost me at the begining of the second paragraph...

Mexicorn, No Worry

Gypsy Jan - 12-30-2009 at 10:03 PM

That is what this board is for; to share information that is is sometimes, in some sort of fashion, interesting, enlightening. and/or confusing, confounding or just plain irritating.

With a click, you can always leave a subject that does not satisfy your interests.

noproblemo2 - 12-30-2009 at 10:28 PM

:spingrin:

shari - 12-31-2009 at 08:18 AM

crazy wisdom....saintly madness...whew, I'm feeling much better now thanks Jan....I'm gonna go make a pie....(or something)

noproblemo2 - 12-31-2009 at 08:39 AM

Or maybe start spring cleaning VERY early!!! :light:

wilderone - 12-31-2009 at 08:58 AM

Boy, that's wierd - the music that plays when I opened on page 1 of this string. Who's responsible for that?

DENNIS - 12-31-2009 at 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by wilderone
Boy, that's wierd - the music that plays when I opened on page 1 of this string. Who's responsible for that?

That is weird. Didn't notice it before since I leave my speakers off.

DENNIS - 12-31-2009 at 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
Lighten up Francis. I'm trying to figure out who's sane and who isn't and you're making it difficult.

It's funny how even the most subtle writing [and research] pattern will stand out as familiar.

[Edited on 12-31-2009 by DENNIS]

noproblemo2 - 12-31-2009 at 09:32 AM

"Marjories Song", by Wm. Hung????? Former Idol Contestant.... :?:

David K - 12-31-2009 at 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by wilderone
Boy, that's wierd - the music that plays when I opened on page 1 of this string. Who's responsible for that?

You can go to your Control Panel (link on top right of page) and change the number of posts per page show for you. That way the 'I'm so lonely' song (sung by the North Korean dictator in Team America) can play longer.

I think we can thank ELINVESTI8 for adding songs to some of the Nomad pages... like he did with the Ken & Leidys wedding post.

[Edited on 12-31-2009 by David K]

toneart - 12-31-2009 at 12:51 PM

Well Jan- Hello there!

I knew Steve Gaskin...used to sit on the floor at his open "Rap Sessions" at the Avalon Ballroom in San Francisco. I'm workin' hard at keeping my beard trimmed, but every third day I think I should give up on that one. Thank God I have never visited the rubber hair town. Like my beard, you can't cut that stuff easily with scissors. The face from which the beard emanates is only a mask, which hides the soul, however tormented...or serene. When the beard grows and curls and and matts and knots and starts to tentacle (I made up that verb) its way around things (you'd best stand back), I point my finger in the air too because that is my space.

Anyway, even though you didn't write the piece, you chose it to represent you, or some of you, or all of you(?). Have you seen Avatar? If so, I (and probably Gnukid) would like to say, "I see youuuuuuuuuuu!" :cool:

DENNIS - 12-31-2009 at 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
BTW, I have no problem with crazy people.

Well, that's a relief. :lol:

Just In Case

Bajahowodd - 12-31-2009 at 02:18 PM

Anyone wishes to delve farther into a most tortured and perceptive mind....

http://www.joebageant.com/

toneart - 12-31-2009 at 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Anyone wishes to delve farther into a most tortured and perceptive mind....

http://www.joebageant.com/

I just bookmarked it, Howard. Guess I know what I will be reading for the New Year...

"...Or I can lay in an all-night stock of tequila, limes and reefer and puke up the entire miserable tale like some 5,000 word tequila purged Congolese stomach worm. I have chosen to do the latter." :barf:

Hello Back Toneart

Gypsy Jan - 12-31-2009 at 06:02 PM

Thanks for the memories.

Does my post represent me? Umm, yes and no.

Have I seen Avatar? Not yet, but I am looking forward to seeing it. I admire James Cameron's film work.

Great Choice, Amigo

Bajahowodd - 12-31-2009 at 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Anyone wishes to delve farther into a most tortured and perceptive mind....

http://www.joebageant.com/

After all, it only happens once a year. Prospero!

Mexicorn - 12-31-2009 at 06:31 PM

I Liked the Movie- watched it at the Cineopolis in Ensendad 36 pesos-
Lonely I'm so Lonely.......
I love that song dont you Arrowhead?

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 01:05 PM

I've just confirmed that Arrowhead and Marjorie is the same person. U2U me and I'll tell you how I know.

DianaT - 1-2-2010 at 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
I've just confirmed that Arrowhead and Marjorie is the same person. U2U me and I'll tell you how I know.

I thought Arrowhead was Nancy----interesting

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 01:10 PM

DianaT you were right Now as soon as Doug gets back...
Tick... Tick... Tick...

ELINVEST8 Please restore the Lonely song with the Funeral march.
Thank you
The Mexicorn

[Edited on 1-2-2010 by Mexicorn]

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
I've just confirmed that Arrowhead and Marjorie is the same person. U2U me and I'll tell you how I know.

No Way. Absolutly No Way.

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
I've just confirmed that Arrowhead and Marjorie is the same person. U2U me and I'll tell you how I know.

No Way. Absolutly No Way.

LOL You killing me buddy!!!!
LOL!!! :lol:

Casey67 - 1-2-2010 at 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by David K

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Originally posted by wilderone
Boy, that's wierd - the music that plays when I opened on page 1 of this string. Who's responsible for that?

I think we can thank ELINVESTI8 for adding songs to some of the Nomad pages... like he did with the Ken & Leidys wedding post.

Thank isn't the word I would use, more like spank or possibly even ban. My computer runs through a real-loud-stereo, and long story short, my neighbors aren't too pleased with the momentary surprise BLAST that musical addition delivered at 3 AM when I read it. That wedding thread was a slap in the face too. While briefly 'cute', adding sounds that autoplay is generally taboo on the internet. /grrrr

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Casey67
My computer runs through a real-loud-stereo, and long story short, my neighbors aren't too pleased with the momentary surprise BLAST that musical addition delivered at 3 AM

I don't suppose you're in the mood to hear a suggestion regarding your speakers, are you.

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 01:51 PM

FYI all; trackIPaddress.com to locate where a poster is sending from. Also in case you didn't know many US intelligence based organizations monitor Baja Nomads and that other web site that will go unmentioned etc.
Nancy receives intelligence briefs daily. When shes not dancing with the turds on the SADM beach.

toneart - 1-2-2010 at 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
FYI all; trackIPaddress.com to locate where a poster is sending from. Also in case you didn't know many US intelligence based organizations monitor Baja Nomads and that other web site that will go unmentioned etc.
Nancy receives intelligence briefs daily. When shes not dancing with the turds on the SADM beach.

Why would US based intelligence monitor BajaNomads?

Bajahowodd - 1-2-2010 at 01:57 PM

Intelligence briefs? An esoteric garment, if I ever heard of one. Do they have GPS?

Bajahowodd - 1-2-2010 at 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

Why would US based intelligence monitor BajaNomads?

Perhaps because so many of us cross the border frquently and/ or have friends and relatives down there??

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 02:02 PM

I've already shared to much. Besides Dennis says I'm just a nut who cleans toilets at the rosarito police department. Opp's time for my medication.

Nurse Crutchet says over the intercom;

IT'S MEDICATION TIME... IT'S MEDICATION TIME...
Spoke to Tom Goodman today he is alive and well and says he hasnt even heard of this website until today. Poor Tom being made a patsy by Nancy that way.
Way to go Nancy. Hey what ever happened to that flunky you used to run aroud with? You remember the one that was extradited to the US for disability fraud....

What was her name? Oh yea Vivian Dunbar AKA Vivian Straton.
Hows that little gal in Spandex doing? She still your crack reporter?
a real Lois Lane-

[Edited on 1-2-2010 by Mexicorn]

Casey67 - 1-2-2010 at 02:07 PM

My computer swaps back and forth between my desk and the living room where it's displayed on a 1080p big-screen with full 5.1 surround for multimedia and casual surfing from the sofa. It's more a problem of source material levels than speaker choice. If I've got it cranked to hear X with low levels and then without realizing you go somewhere and the levels are high on Y then you're in for a bit of an unpleasant surprise. This is the first time in years I've been aurally assaulted by a basic web page or forum that wasn't Youtube or a band website; where you'd expect auto-play audio/video. It's just bad netiquette.

Addendum: The nature of netiquette is that it is the general consensus of the community. If Nomads feel that unstoppable audio embedded in every post is their thing, then so be it. I'll either turn off the sound (hard to do when I'm using my computer as a music player while I read Nomads) or stop coming back. Once multiple audio sources start to overlap, everybody loses.

[Edited on 2-1-2010 by Casey67]

toneart - 1-2-2010 at 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

Why would US based intelligence monitor BajaNomads?

Perhaps because so many of us cross the border frquently and/ or have friends and relatives down there??

I would think that perhaps a week, or maybe a month maximum of monitoring would assure them that there are no drug dealers, smugglers or terrorists among our membership.

If it takes longer, then I really resent my tax dollars going to such waste. Using the word "intelligence" to describe who they are is a real oxymarooon...DUMB! Of course, look how they screw up around the world. :fire:

[Edited on 1-2-2010 by toneart]

arrowhead - 1-2-2010 at 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
Besides Dennis says I'm just a nut who cleans toilets at the rosarito police department.

Dennis has not been proven to be incorrect in the past.

arrowhead - 1-2-2010 at 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
Also in case you didn't know many US intelligence based organizations monitor Baja Nomads and that other web site that will go unmentioned etc.

Somebody wake up gnukid. This is going to be good.

Bajahowodd - 1-2-2010 at 02:55 PM

".........so we don't have to fight them here." -GWB

:?:

Blame it on the Patriot Act. And as much as anyone wants to fault the executive and legislative branches, fact is they were merely (perhaps over) reacting to the panic of the public. Who are in denial if they think we can just outgun radical fanatics who believe they are doing God's work by killing the infidels. This international thuggery is going to be around for a long time. But, we exacerbate the problem by occupying Islamic countries.

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by arrowhead

Dennis has not been proven to be incorrect in the past.

I'll put that in a file of it's own. I may want to take it out and display it now and again. :lol:

Timo1 - 1-2-2010 at 03:07 PM

Although we live in North America......
Please don't call me American

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by arrowhead

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
Besides Dennis says I'm just a nut who cleans toilets at the rosarito police department.

Dennis has not been proven to be incorrect in the past.

DENNIS PRINT THIS CUT IT OUT AND PUT IT ON THE WALL!
SHE'S BEFRIENDED YOU LOL!!!

SHE HAS A NEW ENEMY- ALTHOUGH HER HUSBAND IS STILL A JANITOR AT SAN YSIDRO POE.

Heres a good read for starters:

www.gao.gov/new.items/d0835.pdf

[Edited on 1-2-2010 by Mexicorn]

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by toneart

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Why would US based intelligence monitor BajaNomads?

Removed by Mexicorn got it.. nuff said

[Edited on 1-3-2010 by Mexicorn]

No, I don't!

toneart - 1-2-2010 at 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn

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Originally posted by toneart

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Why would US based intelligence monitor BajaNomads?

Thus far, products disseminated and services provided also vary. Fusion centers reported issuing a variety of products, such as daily and weekly bulletins on general criminal or intelligence information and intelligence assessments that, in general, provide in-depth reporting on an emerging threat, group, or crime. For example, one center’s weekly bulletin contained sections on domestic and international terrorism, cold case investigations, missing persons, officer safety, and items of interest to law enforcement. etc... etc... etc.. got it toneart?

FYI, I pulled up the GAO report (2007) that you referenced. It is basically our Government Accounting Office trying to get a handle on how Homeland Security is setting up systems on how to coordinate communications with the various other "intelligence" agencies. (December 25, 2009...not very well!)

Of course we know this is how so much of our tax dollars are wasted. Yes, San Diego is a major "Fusion Center".

Again...my question: Why do they waste more than a month lurking on The BajaNomad? Of all the chat, both left and right and even the apolitical, I have never read anything here that would suggest the least bit of terrorist, Drug Cartel or smuggling activity.

I could care less that they are reading this, other than it is a waste of money...and dumb.

Bajahowodd - 1-2-2010 at 05:14 PM

Perseverance. Simple.

CaboRon - 1-2-2010 at 05:18 PM

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Heehee you guys, it's me, Margie. Margie was my pseudonym while spending some very unhappy time at that site. Yes, I was banned. Yes, that site is full of hillbillies, dirt bikers and worst of all, George Bush full on supporters and d*ck lickers. They just love Cheney, jumpin Joe Lieberman and the neocons. Why, even mild mannered Grover was a swift boater against John Kerry. a--hole. **** you Grover.

I have never in my life seen such a bunch of fricking a--holes and marooons, but now I see, they have locked off the Off-Topic, so the unsuspecting guests won't really know what kind of lowlife crawls that site.

DianaT - 1-2-2010 at 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Timo1
Although we live in North America......
Please don't call me American

Would you be offended?

Skeet/Loreto - 1-2-2010 at 05:33 PM

I woul;d be very Offended if some one called me a Canadian!

comitan - 1-2-2010 at 05:46 PM

Skeet
You would be offended by anything except being called a Texan.

On the same note I would be deeply offended if I was Called a Texan.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 05:49 PM

Look you guys are all over the place.

1.) I called out that fascist Racist Marjorie, Fulano,Arrowhead, Sybil, Nancy whatever her name is from that other trash talking blog she runs out of cat infestied hovel in SADM.

2.) She took the bait claiming ARROWHEAD (her alter ego) her name on this blog was Tom Goodman from Malvern AR.

3.) Tom Goodman is a real person who lives in Rosarito beach and I'm sure will claim no connection with ARROWHEAD.

4.) Marjorie who has several personalities and clearly hates the Nomads.

Thats it! No big deal that sweathog is constantly trying to fake us out!
And she smells like farts!

[Edited on 1-3-2010 by Mexicorn]

comitan - 1-2-2010 at 06:14 PM

Mexicorn

I think you smell like FULANO. :bounce:

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by comitan
Mexicorn

I think you smell like FULANO. :bounce:

No way, Wiley. Not even close. :lol:

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I woul;d be very Offended if some one called me a Canadian!

DianaT - 1-2-2010 at 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by comitan
Skeet
You would be offended by anything except being called a Texan.

On the same note I would be deeply offended if I was Called a Texan.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn

Thus far, products disseminated and services provided also vary. Fusion centers reported issuing a variety of products, such as daily and weekly bulletins on general criminal or intelligence information and intelligence assessments that, in general, provide in-depth reporting on an emerging threat, group, or crime. For example, one center’s weekly bulletin contained sections on domestic and international terrorism, cold case investigations, missing persons, officer safety, and items of interest to law enforcement.

MXCRN...You have to reference your words. Nobody with eyes and a mind that works will believe you said this originaly.
Can you just try to play the game with what you have in mind rather than....Gawd knows who?
Your posts are starting to be of Nomad quality and I'm looking forward to seeing more. I'm thinking you'll first have to pull your head out of your [ tush ] and take a deeeeep breath of fresh air.
Then....join the party before you get banned. I don't want to see that. I want to enjoy your company.

[Edited on 1-3-2010 by BajaNomad]

toneart - 1-2-2010 at 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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MXCRN...You have to reference your words. Nobody with eyes and a mind that works will believe you said this originaly.
Can you just try to play the game with what you have in mind rather than....Gawd knows who?
Your posts are starting to be of Nomad quality and I'm looking forward to seeing more. I'm thinking you'll first have to pull your head out of your asss and take a deeeeep breath of fresh air.
Then....join the party before you get banned. I don't want to see that. I want to enjoy your company.

I told him about the referencing part a few days ago. I guess he didn't "get it".

Like Icarus, he is flying too close to the sun.

DENNIS - 1-2-2010 at 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
I told him about the referencing part a few days ago. I guess he didn't "get it".

Like Icarus, he is flying too close to the sun.

I saw it, Tony. I see in this A-Hole myself when I came on board. Jeeezo..was I impossible.
I hope he understands that there's room to be argumentative without being mean and aggresive.
Like I said, I like the guy and wonder of his knowledge of the area.
He's fine with me if he gets his dung together.

If not...come 'n get me.

noproblemo2 - 1-2-2010 at 07:01 PM

They must be bored!!!

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0835.pdf
System or network Owner Sensitivity level Brief summary of selected functions
Types of information
shared
Regional Information Sharing Systems (RISS) Secure Intranet (RISSNET)
State and local officials of the RISS programa with funding through a DOJ grant
Sensitive but unclassified
• Serves as a secure network for law enforcement agencies throughout the United States and other countries.
• Offers services such as secure e-mail, document libraries, intelligence databases, bulletin boards, a chat tool, and Web pages that contain general and community-specific news articles, links, and contact information.
• Provides a secure criminal intelligence network for communications and information sharing by local, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies.
• Beyond its collaboration tools, also provides users with access to other law enforcement resources such as analytical criminal data-visualization tools and criminal intelligence databases.

Mexicorn - 1-2-2010 at 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2
They must be bored!!!

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0835.pdf
System or network Owner Sensitivity level Brief summary of selected functions
Types of information
shared
Regional Information Sharing Systems (RISS) Secure Intranet (RISSNET)
State and local officials of the RISS programa with funding through a DOJ grant
Sensitive but unclassified
• Serves as a secure network for law enforcement agencies throughout the United States and other countries.
• Offers services such as secure e-mail, document libraries, intelligence databases, bulletin boards, a chat tool, and Web pages that contain general and community-specific news articles, links, and contact information.
• Provides a secure criminal intelligence network for communications and information sharing by local, state, tribal, and federal law enforcement agencies.
• Beyond its collaboration tools, also provides users with access to other law enforcement resources such as analytical criminal data-visualization tools and criminal intelligence databases.

Thanks no problemo 2 also removed the music-
Doug dont Ban me ban that scoundrel ARROWHEAD!

noproblemo2 - 1-2-2010 at 07:31 PM

Sorry, I didn't remove the music.

Mexicorn - 1-3-2010 at 04:04 PM

"Referenced from the Los Angeles Times June 4 2006"

Titled

ublisher Lands in Trouble in Baja

Nancy Conroy's coverage of a real estate dispute has made her the target of lawsuits and criminal prosecution.
June 04, 2006|Marla Dickerson, Times Staff WriterENSENADA, Mexico — Publisher Nancy Conroy has created a niche for her twice-monthly newspaper by printing the kind of real estate information you won't find in glossy brochures.

Readers of the English-language Gringo Gazette have learned about time-share hucksters, stolen deposits, flimsy contracts and other pitfalls that have tripped up Americans racing to grab a piece of Mexico's fast-growing Baja peninsula.

It's a focus that has won her friends among would-be property buyers. It has also made her enemies among developers and cost her some advertisers. The outspoken USC Law School graduate may soon pay a higher price: her freedom.

Conroy, 41, faces as much as two years in prison stemming from criminal defamation and calumny charges related to articles she wrote about a Rosarito condominium development. Conroy reported that the parcel where the project was being constructed along the rugged northern Baja coastline was the subject of a long-running title dispute that could pose a risk to buyers.

The developers also filed civil lawsuits against Conroy and her newspaper seeking about $20 million in lost sales and damages after some purchasers allegedly backed out of their contracts after reading of the land-ownership battle in the Gringo Gazette starting in November 2004.

Court records and a spokesman for the Mexican developers, whose original partners included former Rosarito Mayor Hugo Eduardo Torres Chabert, paint Conroy as a muckraker who dragged the name of one of the city's leading families through the mud in a campaign to discredit them, benefit their business rivals and generate headlines for her publication.

Julio Mendivil, spokesman for the development group, acknowledged the existence of the competing title claim. But he said the partners believed that it had no merit and that their reputations suffered as a result of Conroy's articles.

"The company is going to put her in jail and run her out of the country," said Mendivil, administrator of Desarrolladora de las Californias, in a tape-recorded interview in his downtown Rosarito office. " ... We're going after her with everything we've got, whatever it costs."

Conroy, who said she was notified last week that she would have to stand trial in the criminal proceeding, said the developers were retaliating against her for disclosing facts that they didn't want buyers to know and that they aren't required to reveal to clients under Mexican law. Conroy said she stood by her reporting and expressed confidence that she would be vindicated in court.

Mexicorn says: Anyone have a court update on this case?

Dave - 1-3-2010 at 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn

Mexicorn says: Anyone have a court update on this case?

The Gringo Gazette ceased to be. Continuation of a suit would have been pointless.

surebought - 1-3-2010 at 06:33 PM

I liked Nancy. Does anyone have an update on what she's been up to lately. She had to leave rather hurriedly from Mexico.

Mexicorn - 1-3-2010 at 06:40 PM

From her Bio I can only guess she is swimming with the little brown twinkies off the beach at SADM.

noproblemo2 - 1-3-2010 at 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by surebought
I liked Nancy. Does anyone have an update on what she's been up to lately. She had to leave rather hurriedly from Mexico.

She did a lot of good for expats in Baja, without the use of profanity....

surebought - 1-3-2010 at 07:22 PM

You know I think that I'm maybe the only one who actually knows Dennis. And I have known him for twenty years. And I think all of you are him. I have read this thread over and over and it doesn't make any sence to me and thats the only explanation I can think of.

Woooosh - 1-3-2010 at 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by noproblemo2

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Originally posted by surebought
I liked Nancy. Does anyone have an update on what she's been up to lately. She had to leave rather hurriedly from Mexico.

She did a lot of good for expats in Baja, without the use of profanity....

I depended a lot on the Gringo Gazette. Thanks to her investigations, however mean-spirited they appeared- I approached our buying into Baja with more caution and insight.

Is this the same Rosarito condo development being complained about in another current thread? The name rings a bell but there's no one in town now left to report on it if Torres was part of the deal.

noproblemo2 - 1-3-2010 at 07:38 PM

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A lot of people depended on her paper, the Sur edition I believe is still in print last I heard. If she does have a blog maybe she'll send the link to those she feels she can trust so they can read it. Her coverage of events in Baja were accurate.

surebought - 1-3-2010 at 07:40 PM

I was wondering the same thing. Is that the same developement that Nancy crusaded against. There is all kinds of suits winding their way on State and Federal level involving Rosarito. My favorite is the one about expropriation prior to the ejido claim. That's sort of like the Baja Beach and Tennis where a prior to the ejido claim ownership, prevailed on the federal level nullifying all the subsequent claims. Why doesn't anyone ever listen? This is far too complicated for the neophyte investor.

DENNIS - 1-3-2010 at 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by surebought
You know I think that I'm maybe the only one who actually knows Dennis. And I have known him for twenty years. And I think all of you are him. I have read this thread over and over and it doesn't make any sence to me and thats the only explanation I can think of.

That's right, David. I sit here at a huge console littered with buttons, each with a name on it. When I want someone to make a statement, I push their button.
Here...allow me to demonstrate by pushing the DK button:

"Hi there Nomads. I'm going to show you guys seven thousand photographs of a three mile dirt road in El Whatevero that we just love to drive back and forth on. It's a secret place so, I can't tell you where it is because it's...well...like I said, a secret. Besides, it's only for conservatives."

See, David? It's all me. Gotta go now. The pot needs stirring and it's my job to keep these Rosarito folks agitated.

Gaucho - 1-3-2010 at 09:28 PM

:lol:

toneart - 1-3-2010 at 09:53 PM

It is difficult for me to understand why a publisher of Journalism is vilified for doing her job. Everyone, by now, is aware of the pitfalls of investing in Mexico. The deck is stacked against you in so many ways; ways that you may think you can anticipate, and then cover all your bases, but it is not a fair playing field.

I don't understand the mentality of some here who say that she was meddling in Mexico's affairs as a negative thing. Journalism is a risky occupation in Mexico. There are the few who take it on because it is the right thing to do.That was her job and that was her ethic.

Whatever you may think of the paper's format as a tabloid, its biases or its occasional hokey presentation, is irrelevant. It was a commercial endeavor. We are considering the accurate information it provided in this instance.

We, who entertain the idea of owning (such as it is) our own piece of real estate in an idyllic setting, for a price that could not be obtained in the United States, need to be informed. The Gringo Gazette provided that service, thank you.

Legally, she may indeed have been "meddling" in Mexico's affairs. Surely she was aware of that, being a lawyer. Surely she was aware of the risks in doing so, and she knew the players well. But there is a higher calling: exposing a fraud to the world. It arms you with more information when you are considering the ramifications of Caveat Emptor.

If you (a Non-National) resents the "meddling", then you are condoning the system of corruption. You can do that as a spectator looking to this board for your entertainment, but if you are trying to make a huge decision to invest, you are extremely vulnerable.

Whether or not she is Marjorie or Arrowhead, I don't know. If she is Marjorie, as a writer she has created a character, an alter-ego that can be outrageous and mess with you. (You are not required to enjoy her). If she is Arrowhead, she has created another alter-ego that presents herself rationally, and has a viewpoint as that of a lawyer.

The more I read about Nancy Conroy, the more I like her! :yes:

noproblemo2 - 1-3-2010 at 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
It is difficult for me to understand why a publisher of Journalism is vilified for doing her job. Everyone, by now, is aware of the pitfalls of investing in Mexico. The deck is stacked against you in so many ways; ways that you may think you can anticipate, and then cover all your bases, but it is not a fair playing field.

I don't understand the mentality of some here who say that she was meddling in Mexico's affairs as a negative thing. Journalism is a risky occupation in Mexico. There are the few who take it on because it is the right thing to do.That was her job and that was her ethic.

Whatever you may think of the paper's format as a tabloid, its biases or its occasional hokey presentation, is irrelevant. It was a commercial endeavor. We are considering the accurate information it provided in this instance.

We, who entertain the idea of owning (such as it is) our own piece of real estate in an idyllic setting, for a price that could not be obtained in the United States, need to be informed. The Gringo Gazette provided that service, thank you.

Legally, she may indeed have been "meddling" in Mexico's affairs. Surely she was aware of that, being a lawyer. Surely she was aware of the risks in doing so, and she knew the players well. But there is a higher calling: exposing a fraud to the world. It arms you with more information when you are considering the ramifications of Caveat Emptor.

If you (a Non-National) resents the "meddling", then you are condoning the system of corruption. You can do that as a spectator looking to this board for your entertainment, but if you are trying to make a huge decision to invest, you are extremely vulnerable.

Whether or not she is Marjorie or Arrowhead, I don't know. If she is Marjorie, as a writer she has created a character, an alter-ego that can be outrageous and mess with you. (You are not required to enjoy her). If she is Arrowhead, she has created another alter-ego that presents herself rationally, and has a viewpoint as that of a lawyer.

The more I read about Nancy Conroy, the more I like her! :yes:

I'll second that!!!!!!!!!!

Mexicorn - 1-3-2010 at 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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tick tick...tick tick...tick tick....

mtgoat666 - 1-3-2010 at 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by Mexicorn
And of course the writer refers to Nomads as white supremists.

i think marjorie may be correct about the neanderthal-like ditto-head gray matter of the typical nomad :lol:

is "ditto-head" one or 2 words?? do they (the dittoheads) consider the label a compliment?

capt. mike - 1-4-2010 at 10:55 AM

Nancy Conroy went on a Sams trip with us once from Mulege to Lopez, i guess to do a story on us for her paper.
she was one weird duck in my opinion..... which is worth nada BTW.... :lol:

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-4-2010 at 10:58 AM

Whew, I give thanks that I am not one of The Bad, or The Ugly on here!

shari - 1-4-2010 at 11:07 AM

I've been known to be good, :saint:

bad

AND ugly

!!!!

Woooosh - 1-4-2010 at 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Whew, I give thanks that I am not one of The Bad, or The Ugly on here!

If were to turn my speakers on-- would there be an old-west soundtrack playing to that post?

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-4-2010 at 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Whew, I give thanks that I am not one of The Bad, or The Ugly on here!

If were to turn my speakers on-- would there be an old-west soundtrack playing to that post?

Nah, I got a beat down and they didn't even read me my rights. :lol:

Bajahowodd - 1-4-2010 at 02:09 PM

For anyone who may be interested, Carrie Duncan, the founder and publisher of Gringo Gazette was deported several years ago for much of the same crusading journalism. She, however, worked things out with the authorities and is now allowed back. Her original paper appears to be flourishing, and methinks that it was more about keeping connected to the money that motivated her. That paper keeps a lighthearted tone. No more investigative journalism. I will not make any comparisons about the quality of the work, but it was quite clear that with Carrie's paper putting out 60+ pages per issue, it was a financial success. Nancy's edition never came close to that. Perhaps part of it was timing. Tourism exploded in South Baja. Not so much en El Norte.

DENNIS - 1-4-2010 at 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
putting out 60+ pages per issue

That has to be 55 pages of real estate ads and guacamole recipes.

Bajahowodd - 1-4-2010 at 02:37 PM

It IS an advertising rag. Real Estate, restaurants, tourist services of all kinds. And Ms. Duncan has grown more and more parsimonious over the years. Noting that racks of the free paper are to be found all over the place from Cabo to Loreto, she also offered mail subscriptions for a price. Keep in mind that the paper is published in California and shipped to South Baja. The paper went online several years ago, and was available for free. Then, she started withholding the current edition, but allowing access to past editions. Today, you cannot access any edition without paying for it. So something that represents free bird cage liner for the entire state of BCS must be bought by those elsewhere.

arrowhead - 1-4-2010 at 03:01 PM

Duncan now also has an internet TV program going on down there. Well, at least she did about a year ago, I haven't looked recently. She did some spots on local points of interest.

elgatoloco - 1-4-2010 at 03:06 PM

I much preferred the GG and it's look at the underbelly of the area over the feel good whitewash that is/was Mr. Torres publication.

Bajahowodd - 1-4-2010 at 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by arrowhead
Duncan now also has an internet TV program going on down there. Well, at least she did about a year ago, I haven't looked recently. She did some spots on local points of interest.

And runs a night club and a boutique hotel in a somewhat funky part of town.

elgatoloco - 1-4-2010 at 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

........and a boutique hotel in a somewhat funky part of town.

Gringo Gardens?

Bajahowodd - 1-4-2010 at 05:17 PM

Actually, just the opposite. It's only a few blocks off the main drag, but smack in the heart of the local's shopping district. I only referred to it as funky inasmuch as many tenderfoot tourists never even step a foot off the main drag.

The Defunct Gringo Gazette North

Gypsy Jan - 1-4-2010 at 05:17 PM

These comments come from my direct experience with Nancy Conroy and Carrie Duncan, but, keep in mind that they are from eight years ago.

I consulted for the Gringo Gazette North for a few months in 2001, building the advertising base and setting up a marketing plan.

The GG North was Nancy's baby, she had had the publishing software, logos and intellectual properties and for a time, shared the same graphic artist and printer that the GG South used.

Nancy had a verbal (at least) contract with Carrie that when she got it up and going, producing a sufficient revenue, Carrie Duncan relinquish all interests for some sort unspecified buy out.

Nancy was difficult to work with, only in the sense of if you told her something she didn't want to hear, she didn't hear it. Also, she was an American operating a business in Mexico without the proper permits and not paying taxes, the Carrie Duncan business model. Duncan once bragged to me that she took over a million dollars, tax free out of the country every year.

Nancy fancied herself a muckraker, and went severely off the deep end in her reporting. Whether she was accurate or not (she did source her claims), she angered some very powerful people, the Torres family and minions, the Corona family and minions, et al. She named names and, not surprisingly, received death threats.

Like her or loathe her, she cared and wrote passionately about the subjects that interested her.

Also, Conroy was not a racist. To quote from my recollection of a restaurant "review" written by Duncan it went something like this, "Why can't restaurant owners get Jose to the table faster?" and got worse from there on. Duncan was and presumably, still is, supremely contempous of the citizens of the country where she makes her money and the Americans who read her paper (also from my recollections, she referred to her readers as "Baseball-capped, mouth-breathing, beer swilling idiots." Another Duncan bit of wisdom, "Mexicans are so stupid about business, they don't know anything. I tell them I print fifteen thousand papers and they believe me. They don't ask me about distribution or readership, if they get a few coupons, they are happy."

[Edited on 1-5-2010 by Gypsy Jan]

[Edited on 1-5-2010 by Gypsy Jan]

Bajahowodd - 1-4-2010 at 05:22 PM

Having met Duncan a couple of times, and knowing something about her background, I will say that she can be salty. Not around her enough to know if it was humor or something else. Her partner down South, David Flores is a Mexican citizen. when I say partner, I don't know if he has ever had a financial stake in GG, and I know he was the one doing much of the work. However, as for the nightclub and hotel, he is her partner.

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