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HOW TO GET CASH INTO BAJA LEGALLY

bowser - 1-12-2010 at 05:01 PM

I need to find a way to get cash into Baja. Let's just say more than $10,000, so ATM withdrawals won't do it. I would like dollars, but pesos could work. Do I need to open a bank account? Can I? I have an FM3. I'm a US citizen.

I want to do this legally and also am not keen on the idea of carrying it across the border even if I do declare it.

Thanks in advance for any ideas. I have always gotten great help from the forum.

[Edited on 1-13-2010 by bowser]

woody with a view - 1-12-2010 at 05:36 PM

figure out who your bank does business with (another bank) in mexico. transfer it to the new account and VIOLA!

Sidamone - 1-12-2010 at 05:47 PM

Bear in mind the history of devaluation of the peso before you consider taking it in Mexican currency.

DENNIS - 1-12-2010 at 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Sidamone
Bear in mind the history of devaluation of the peso before you consider taking it in Mexican currency.


The banks offer dollar accounts.

Hello Bowser

Gypsy Jan - 1-12-2010 at 05:56 PM

Please U2U me.

GJ

bajaguy - 1-12-2010 at 05:57 PM

Do you really need cash?????....what about a certified check or a bank to bank transfer.......

Any time you move more than $10,000 a CTR will be generated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_transaction_report

bowser - 1-12-2010 at 06:38 PM

Yes, I do need cash. I know a cashier's check would be better, but the other party in our transaction doesn't have an account that will accept US dollars.

mtgoat666 - 1-12-2010 at 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by bowser
I need to find a way to get cash into Baja. Let's just say more than $10,000, so ATM withdrawals won't do it. I would like dollars, but pesos could work. Do I need to open a bank account? Can I? I have an FM3. I'm a US citizen.

I want to do this legally and also am not keen on the idea of carrying it across the border even if I do declare it.

Thanks in advance for any ideas. I have always gotten great help from the forum.


bank to bank transfer works best for moving $$ between countries legally. receipient just needs to give you acct and bank routing info. your bank will wire money to wherever you want (if you don't understand process, ask your banker and make him/her earn their fees). use some type of escrow to hold the money if you are uncertain about the deal.

p.s. don't do business with nigerians or people you only know via the internet :lol:

bowser - 1-12-2010 at 06:44 PM

The problem is that the recipient doesn't have an account that accepts US dollars. Can I open one for myself with my FM3 status?

longlegsinlapaz - 1-12-2010 at 06:45 PM

If bank balance is equal to or greater than $10K equiv USD for even a 1-hour period of time during the year, the IRS requires you to file TD F 90-22.1 - Report of Foreign Bank & Financial Accounts form....for any US citizen with an off-shore account. So even if you're moving it down here to immediately hand over for property purchase or as down payment to a builder, you'll be legally required to inform Uncle Sam.

So I'd suggest that your intent for future bank balances here might well be a deciding factor in how you get it down here. If this is a one-time deal you might not mind having to file on a one-time basis. If it's going to go on for some length of time, then I'd recommend opening a USD account & wire transferring the funds down to yourself, as you'll be required to submit the TD F 90-22.1 for any portion of any year you have $10K or greater on deposit.

One way around this would be to wire all or part of the funds directly to whoever you're planning to give the money to....only if signed contract is in place, etc.

OR

SOME, but definitely not all parties/transactions here MAY be talked into accepting a check drawn on a USA bank....but they don't LIKE to do it because the bank holds funds for 14-21 days until the check clears. Mexico does NOT verify checks online, or if they do, they still don't release the funds for 14-21 days on an out-of-country check. Money orders are handled the same as US checks. In Mexico, they are NOT considered guarantee of funds.

OR

You could bring it down in Travelers Checks, but from everything I've heard, you may end up having to go to several different banks to cash a few because the banks don't like to cash them.

Decisions, decisions, decisions!:yes:

longlegsinlapaz - 1-12-2010 at 06:47 PM

Bowser......NO SWEAT!!! Simply have your bank transfer the funds down to the recipient in pesos. Happens all the time! :bounce:

Edit: for clarification

[Edited on 1-13-2010 by longlegsinlapaz]

mtgoat666 - 1-12-2010 at 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by bowser
The problem is that the recipient doesn't have an account that accepts US dollars. Can I open one for myself with my FM3 status?


hmmm. i wonder how easy it is to withdrawl >$10,000 US cash from a bank in mexico? never tried that. better ask a mexican bank to see if you can even arrange cash withdrawls of that amount.

sounds fishy that someone wants to do cash deal and is making you jump thru hoops. you should tell them to spend a few bucks and open a proper account to make it easy for you to wire $$

longlegsinlapaz - 1-12-2010 at 06:52 PM

Goat....yes it is possible & commonly done....in La Paz at least. But the bank requires 24-hour notice so they can get the correct amount of USD funds to their bank.

bowser - 1-12-2010 at 06:52 PM

Sounds like transferring bank to bank is the best option. My remaining question still is, can I open an account in Ensenada with my FM3 status?

norte - 1-12-2010 at 06:54 PM

Just give to me and let me take cre of it for you. I'll meet you in Baja

bowser - 1-12-2010 at 06:56 PM

thanks norte! I've already had several offers.

longlegsinlapaz - 1-12-2010 at 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by bowser
Sounds like transferring bank to bank is the best option. My remaining question still is, can I open an account in Ensenada with my FM3 status?
Yes, you can open an account with an FM3. Peso or UDS.....or.....Peso and USD (separate accounts).

bowser - 1-12-2010 at 07:04 PM

What ID and other paperwork is necessary to open the account and how long does it take?

grace59 - 1-12-2010 at 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by bowser
Sounds like transferring bank to bank is the best option. My remaining question still is, can I open an account in Ensenada with my FM3 status?

Yes, you can open an account in a Mexican Bank with your FM3. We have an account in Bancomer there. We had to open the account and make the required deposit in order to obtain our FM3 (we got them in Mexico so perhaps the process is different there). If you have a Mexican account I've heard you must pay a fee on cash deposits, but you can transfer money or even deposit a check into your account, but then you must wait for it to clear.

BajaWarrior - 1-12-2010 at 08:53 PM

Haul the cash!

Bank transfers can take up to a week for the recipient to collect, I tried that route once, never again. Cash.

DENNIS - 1-12-2010 at 09:25 PM

How much money are you talking about and what bank won't accept US dollars?

[Edited on 1-13-2010 by DENNIS]

toneart - 1-12-2010 at 09:43 PM

Yes. I am confirming that you can open a Mexican bank account with an FM3. In fact, an FM3 or FM 2 is required. I brought a $10K cashier's check from B of A and at first they wouldn't accept it to open the account. I had them (Bancomer) call the jefe in La Paz to get special permission to deposit it in Santa Rosalia. Even then, they put a hold on it until it cleared.

We don't know who you are working with in Baja. Many people who do business with gringos have a U.S. Bank account just for that purpose. Ask your guy if he has one. That way, it is transferred or deposited from a U.S. Bank to a U.S. Bank.

I gave up my Bancomer account because it was too much hassle. Really antiquated way to do business. No customer service. Long lines. Have to wait sometimes for more than an hour to get prior approval for a transaction from a desk jockey before you can go to the teller window. ATM charges on both ends. I even had a teller confiscate a $100.00 bill I needed to cash, saying it is counterfeit. Funny thing is, I got it from that branch. :mad:

I don't love Bank of America either, but they have a Safesend program where you can send money to yourself in Baja...no charge! Also, Santender Bank has an ATM in Mulege. They are an affiliate of B of A and there are no ATM charges on either side.

DENNIS - 1-12-2010 at 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by toneart
No customer service. Long lines. Have to wait sometimes for more than an hour to get prior approval for a transaction from a desk jockey before you can go to the teller window. ATM charges on both ends. I even had a teller confiscate a $100.00 bill I needed to cash, saying it is counterfeit. Funny thing is, I got it from that branch. :mad:



WOW...Bye Bye. Tell the world how screwed they are, Tony, and just hope it hurts them. :fire:

toneart - 1-12-2010 at 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by toneart
No customer service. Long lines. Have to wait sometimes for more than an hour to get prior approval for a transaction from a desk jockey before you can go to the teller window. ATM charges on both ends. I even had a teller confiscate a $100.00 bill I needed to cash, saying it is counterfeit. Funny thing is, I got it from that branch. :mad:



WOW...Bye Bye. Tell the world how screwed they are, Tony, and just hope it hurts them. :fire:


Dennis- I think you are being supportive, but hard to tell. Could be interpreted either way. :?:

monoloco - 1-12-2010 at 11:25 PM

I had a bank teller hand me back a $20 one time that I was trying to exchange for pesos saying it was a counterfeit, I asked her what I was supposed to do with it and she told me to take it to a Pemex because they wouldn't know the difference.

Monex

BajaCactus - 1-13-2010 at 01:27 AM

Bowser,

There is a company called Monex... it is a well established bank that specializes in international money transfer (among other things)... we deal wit them every time... they are very reliable.

They can deliver the money 100% legally in Mexico, usually in a form of a check to whoever you choose.

If you want their information just e-mail me (info*at*bajacactus.com).

BajaCactus
"Where the Baja is so much more than a dream..."

wessongroup - 1-13-2010 at 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by longlegsinlapaz
Goat....yes it is possible & commonly done....in La Paz at least. But the bank requires 24-hour notice so they can get the correct amount of USD funds to their bank.


Your just super on this... thanks for sharing your "knowledge" on this subject.. most charge

bowser - 1-13-2010 at 09:33 AM

Thanks everyone for your input. Great info as always!

Now I just need to talk to the seller and work out a better plan.

Bajahowodd - 1-13-2010 at 12:42 PM

Like, lowering the price?:lol::lol: