I did a series last year with maps and satellite images showing the Camino Real from Mision Santa Maria to Loreto.
They are posted in the General forum, but they are of historic interest (this forum)... To find all of them, and other Camino Real map links, I made
this page: http://vivabaja.com/missions2/page13.html
Here's an example of what you will see (Gulfo Camino Real south from San Borja):
MAP (south of Tinaja Santa Maria/ west of San Rafael):
G-14 Image (located on map):
Harry Crosby map of that area (see 'Santa Maria')
[Edited on 2-24-2013 by David K]rts551 - 1-19-2010 at 06:16 PM
David K - 1-20-2010 at 04:25 PM
The route is described in Gulick's paper to El Rosario and to the border in Crosby's 1977 maps and 1974 book. Crosby's newer book 'Gateway to Alta
California' c2003 provided super detail of the route of Serra from San Juan de Dios to San Diego... GPS and topo maps... but that isn't the mission
ECR from San Fernando to San Diego.David K - 6-9-2012 at 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by bajaamy
I love looking over these time and again! Thanks for bumping them! Any chance of seeing north of Santa Maria?
The Camino Real used by the Franciscans and Dominicans was never constructed in the manner the Jesuits had. It is little more than a cattle trail
north of San Borja with a rare switch back here and there to Santa Maria. The Jesuits were removed before they had built the Royal Road north from San
Borja to the degree of construction as they had built south to Loreto.
The route was known, as diaries of those who traveled it from 1769 on describe the points along the way. Agua Dulce was a major water source on the
Camino Real between Santa Maria and San Fernando.
Here is Howard Gulick's 1954 (north) ECR map of the route as far as El Rosario:
Harry Crosby was aided by Gulick's work in making his 1974 book 'The King's Highway in Baja California'... and later more detailed maps in 1977...
In 2004, I found the Camino Real near the junction of Hwy. 1 and the road to Punta San Carlos, 0.5 mi. south of Hwy 1 (near Km. 81 marker) and 1.4
miles west on a side road...
The Camino Real hike begins at 30°01.167', 115°33.260' (map datum NAD27 Mex.) elev. 973'
David K - 6-10-2012 at 03:28 PM
If anyone else has hiked any of the Camino Real, NORTH of Santa Maria, I would like to see photos!Archie - 6-11-2012 at 10:55 AM
Awesome DavidK!
Saw in recent years in the newspapers the story of two old vaqueros trying the old Camino Real... they left San Jose de la Zorra, N-E of Valle de
Guadalupe and follwed the trail somewhere south of el Rosario. As soon as i can get the link or the paper ill post it.
I´ve been in a ranch in la Bocana and San Pedro Valley, but never followed those trails you mention. We´re currently working with Matilde the rancher
to get him a permit for using local resources (dead wood*, wildlife and minerals), hes an excellent nature guide and like everybody else in Baja,
he´ll welcome you with a smile and a nice cup of café.
*dont know the proper term in english for using the parts of dead brushes/trees as material for building, crafts or cultural uses.
[Edited on 6-11-2012 by Archie]David K - 6-11-2012 at 09:27 PM
Hi Archie, I also have been up to La Bocana ranch and beyond, loking for signs (muestras) of the Camino Real (or Golfo Camino Real, that way).
On Google Earth, you can see it go over a ridge to short cut to the opposite valley (near Tinaja de Santa Maria) from near the dirt road east of La
Bocana (between arrow G12 and G13 on the map at the top of this thread. I have posted those images and maps on Nomad, and links to them are on this
page: http://vivabaja.com/missions2/page13.htmlKen Cooke - 6-12-2012 at 06:04 AM
Thank you for posting this information, David. Nothing like a verifiable Baja traveler that knows the peninsula the way you do.
Keep up the great work.
-KenDavid K - 6-12-2012 at 06:16 PM
De nada Ken... I like the old time stuff... The Baja road BEFORE 1973, The mission trails of the 1700's and 1800's, that sort of thing!
It has all been posted here on Nomad, but I bump it up every so often because of new viewers and old ones who missed it before, might enjoy it!
