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American expat car jacked in Rosarito

Mexicorn - 1-21-2010 at 06:07 PM

Does anyone know BJ she's a great gal who lives in Rosarito. I was told she was recently carjacked in front of the mail room in front of Renes trailer park where many Americans who live in Rosarito get their mail.

Who ever commited the crime took her new SUV.
Anyone have anymore info on this crime?

[Edited on 1-22-2010 by Mexicorn]

BJ?

Dave - 1-22-2010 at 09:37 AM

Could you be a bit more, or less descriptive?

Woooosh - 1-22-2010 at 11:11 AM

Was she actually carjacked by force or was her SUV taken while it was parked there? No, I don't know of her either- by that name anyway.

I went to the crazy Maggie site and she had a little more info. The lady was inside the mail room with others present when the the armed carjacking occurred. (I thought you had to be sitting in your car for it to be a carjacking). The rest of her posting is pure psycho-babble.

The only thing I am curious about : Are these blogs censored by Mexico? She mentions she has to type the story quick before "they" take it down on her. ???

:?:

[Edited on 1-22-2010 by Woooosh]

Mexicorn - 1-22-2010 at 10:39 PM

Bj's a great gal I think I already said that...
She Lives at Renes Trailier park.
The Renes mail room is right next to the boulevard so I'm assuming it was a crime of opportunity. I hope BJ's OK shes been in Rosarito for over ten years and is an integral part of our ex-patriot community.

Oh by the way wheres Ron and his big press release?
Things that make you go hmmmmm.....:?:





[Edited on 1-23-2010 by Mexicorn]

BajaNews - 1-23-2010 at 01:26 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/puntabandanewsletter/message/1...

From Marilu Shah
Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 9:03:56 PM
Subject: Carjacking

"... BJ Carpenter was carjacked by gunpoint monday afternoon at the mailroom at
Rene's. It was 2:30 pm and there were people in the mailroom. For your safety
please make yourself aware of your surroundings before parking and getting out
of your car. I care for all of you and your safety.

Luv U Marilu"

I talked to BJ Saturday and she said they had not recovered her truck yet. The
thieves obtained her purse and credit cards as well.

Posted by Pat Mullen in TJ
Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:30 am

[Edited on 1-23-2010 by BajaNews]

DENNIS - 1-23-2010 at 08:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh

The only thing I am curious about : Are these blogs censored by Mexico? She mentions she has to type the story quick before "they" take it down on her. ???



She took it off the Punta Banda Message Board who is not among her fan base. Maggie linked to it and was thinking they may take it down so she wrote it out just in case.

Mexicorn - 1-23-2010 at 12:03 PM

Cars credit card material things can all be replaced. Thank God BJ is OK.
Ever since Rene shut down the bar and cut back on Security there has been a rash of break in's at his trailer park. He could care less. He's more interested in fleacing the dying off herd of American Alcoholics that frequent his shut down dive.
His father would be rolling over in his grave if he could see the way his spoiled brat son and Grandson have mismanaged one of Rosarito's great landmarks into the ground.
What a shame.

RIP Rene Sr.

From another site

bajaguy - 1-23-2010 at 12:36 PM

Subject: Armed Highjacking in Rosarito

Date: Friday, 22 January 2010

From: Herman Stiphout

Hi,

"Many of you have already heard what happened to me during lunchtime today.

For those not yet in the know, herewith a short recap:
Marijke and I went into town for our Spanish lesson, which
is held at Las Mañanitas restaurant at 12:00 Noon. I drove
into the parking lot and let Marijke get out so that she did
not have to walk through the mud.

As I locked the car, two guys in an old Toyota drove up and
blocked my way. One got out and started shouting at me that he wanted my keys.

I did not immediately get what he meant but that changed in
a flash when he pulled out a gun and pushed it into my stomach.

I handed over my keys, and then he shouted that he wanted
my wallet. He got more and more agitated, especially when I
told him that I do not carry a wallet.

I told him to search me if he did not believe me, which he
did, and emptied my pockets.

He then got into our car and both drove off at high speed.
The whole thing was over in less that a minute, at least
that is the feeling that I had.

There were some people at the other side of the street who
witnessed what happened, but they just stood and watched.
Apart from the car and what was in it, they got away with
about 1,500.00 Pesos and $25 US, as well as my driver's
license.

The restaurant people were very good in calling the police,
who arrived in about 10 minutes. They were very friendly and
efficient; they took us to the police station for a statement, then drove us home to get some papers.

Subsequently we went to the DA's office to make another statement and then they drove us home again,
after explaining in detail what the next steps were. Both spoke English fluently, so communication was not a problem.

I do not have everyone's e-mail address, so please feel
free to forward to other friends on our behalf; I am not
really in a state of mind at the moment to try and find everyone's address.

I also want to thank everybody who has already offered help
with transport and other things. I think that we will
probably need some of that in the next few days and will
contact you then.

Also, a big thank you for the calls of support that we have
had; this is appreciated very much and shows the spirit of
the community.

Regards,
Herman & Marijke"


(The Toyota was a dark grey, old model sedan)

DENNIS - 1-23-2010 at 01:05 PM

gosh darnM....Sounds like people are going to have to go to town in a caravan.
Torres must have an explaination for the anomaly of behavior.

"Don't let this overreaction stop you tourists from coming down to Rob-Me-Arito. It's the press that's the problem. You'll love it here."

What a snakepit. This isn't even cartel stuff. It's just garbage people doing what they know they can get away with because nobody is allowed to defend themselves. Defending yourself is against the law. Volunteering to live in this atmosphere should be against the law as well.

Woooosh - 1-23-2010 at 01:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
gosh darnM....Sounds like people are going to have to go to town in a caravan.
Torres must have an explaination for the anomaly of behavior.

"Don't let this overreaction stop you tourists from coming down to Rob-Me-Arito. It's the press that's the problem. You'll love it here."

What a snakepit. This isn't even cartel stuff. It's just garbage people doing what they know they can get away with because nobody is allowed to defend themselves. Defending yourself is against the law. Volunteering to live in this atmosphere should be against the law as well.


When someone stole my truck in Rosarito Beach with my Nextel phone in it a couple years back, I called my phone and told them I could cut off the engine by cell phone because it was an electric hybrid. I gave them fifteen minutes to bring it back or I would call the police and stall the truck where it was. It came back and I didn't have to deal with the police. They never bothered me again.

[Edited on 1-23-2010 by Woooosh]

Why the Gun?

Gypsy Jan - 1-23-2010 at 07:27 PM

Just wondering, because in my own little world I haven't heard much about armed carjackings down here in Rosarito.

So, is this thug that committed this atrocity a displaced cholo from Riverside sitting in Rene's parking lot, waiting to bring home a big prize in order to get in good with his new crew in the Rosarito hood?

DENNIS - 1-23-2010 at 08:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan

Why the Gun?




Because he has one and the little old lady didn't. That makes him in charge of the situation.

Woooosh - 1-23-2010 at 08:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan

Why the Gun?




Because he has one and the little old lady didn't. That makes him in charge of the situation.


The gun is excessive. Why would they risk near certain jail time? The local troublemakers usually just show knives and their butt-ugly faces to take what they want. No match for a retired couple not expecting a confrontation in the center of Rosarito at noon- without a gun.

DENNIS - 1-23-2010 at 08:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh

The gun is excessive. Why would they risk near certain jail time? The local troublemakers usually just show knives and their butt-ugly faces to take what they want. No match for a retired couple not expecting a confrontation in the center of Rosarito at noon- without a gun.



Well, shame on that thug. He most certainly is due for a refresher course in hijacking etiquette.
Rosarito is relatively lawless. You really think these guys worry about getting caught?

Mexicorn - 1-23-2010 at 10:41 PM

Im staying away from Rosarito for a while. Furthermore any Americans considering comming down for Presidents day or Spring break should thinkabout it twice. Rosarito has become a lawless place and Americans just are not safe.
I cant wait to see what the real estate spinning Mayor is going to say about this.
I'm sure he will start off with a sack of lies regarding his car being broken into at fashion valley like he did at that laison meeting in Chula Vista a few months ago.
Time for Mr. Raposa to fire up the old spin machine again.
These are truly desprate times here in the Plaza.

arrowhead - 1-23-2010 at 11:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mexicorn
Im staying away from Rosarito for a while. Furthermore any Americans considering comming down for Presidents day or Spring break should thinkabout it twice. Rosarito has become a lawless place and Americans just are not safe.


OK, so.....are you Nancy or Fulano?
:rolleyes:

arrowhead - 1-23-2010 at 11:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Just wondering, because in my own little world I haven't heard much about armed carjackings down here in Rosarito.


If they want to steal a new car they have to carjack them now, instead of breaking the ignition key with a screwdriver, like they do on the older cars. That's because the new cars won't start without the key, which has a coded rf chip in it so the computer will unlock the ignition.

DENNIS - 1-24-2010 at 09:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by arrowhead

If they want to steal a new car they have to carjack them now, instead of breaking the ignition key with a screwdriver, like they do on the older cars. That's because the new cars won't start without the key, which has a coded rf chip in it so the computer will unlock the ignition.


You mean, these scumballs haven't found a way around that yet? Hard to imagine.

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-24-2010 at 09:15 AM

I'm wondering if these scumbag A-Holes are people that have been deported back to Mexico from the USA and either refuse to get a job or find it easier to terrorize people for money? Have any been caught yet? I can only hope they meet a fate worse than death soon!

Woooosh - 1-24-2010 at 09:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh

The gun is excessive. Why would they risk near certain jail time? The local troublemakers usually just show knives and their butt-ugly faces to take what they want. No match for a retired couple not expecting a confrontation in the center of Rosarito at noon- without a gun.



Well, shame on that thug. He most certainly is due for a refresher course in hijacking etiquette.
Rosarito is relatively lawless. You really think these guys worry about getting caught?


Nope- The local tweekers are whacked out of their minds when they do crap like this. Way more crystal here now than in San Diego in the 80's. So more petty crimes like this happening around town.

The Rosarito locals accept it as returning to a normal level of crime. There are no extra heads laying around, no hanging bodies and no lethal police ambushes since Teo was captured. Yet.

[Edited on 1-24-2010 by Woooosh]

DENNIS - 1-24-2010 at 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
So more petty crimes like this happening around town.



Jeeezo....There's one for the Chamber Of Commerce. Armed robbery is considered a "Petty Crime." :lol:
Thanks, Woooosh. I know what you mean.

Woooosh - 1-24-2010 at 10:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
I'm wondering if these scumbag A-Holes are people that have been deported back to Mexico from the USA and either refuse to get a job or find it easier to terrorize people for money? Have any been caught yet? I can only hope they meet a fate worse than death soon!


The violent deportees are a crime problem in the border region but are certainly nothing new. They don't have papers to work legally in Mexico- so take to other options. Their biggest crime tools are speaking decent English and knowing most Americans down here are good willed and compassionate by nature and that makes them vulnerable to criminals who honed their art in prison.

It's still 100% safer here than last year and the year before that. The challenge is how to get tourist to believe it is actually safe enough to return without censoring any bad news that comes out of Rosarito. A certain level of crime in normal or either side of the border. Many downtown businesses are closed here now and jobs are few. The locals are hurting and the boarded up clubs in the tourists zone add to the visual blight. Blight and tourism don't mix.

The "All Clear" siren won't sound until business owners feel it is safe to return to Rosarito... Like Mr. Iggy- who led the local mega-club marketing efforts. When he another others like him come back- people will know it is safe and profitable to re-open their doors. Then the tourist will start to trickle back in.

Woooosh - 1-24-2010 at 10:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
So more petty crimes like this happening around town.



Jeeezo....There's one for the Chamber Of Commerce. Armed robbery is considered a "Petty Crime." :lol:
Thanks, Woooosh. I know what you mean.


No blood, no foul. Any country that downplays kidnappings to "a temporary loss of freedom for the purpose of robbery" isn't going to take a carjacking seriously, and they don't. But we all knew that was the case before we moved down here right?

DENNIS - 1-24-2010 at 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
[No blood, no foul. Any country that downplays kidnappings to "a temporary loss of freedom for the purpose of robbery" isn't going to take a carjacking seriously, and they don't. But we all knew that was the case before we moved down here right?


No. Actually, I didn't. I brought with me the North American mindset that laws are to be obeyed and broken laws will be punished. I refuse to give up that frame of thought just because I live in Mexico.

Woooosh - 1-24-2010 at 12:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
[No blood, no foul. Any country that downplays kidnappings to "a temporary loss of freedom for the purpose of robbery" isn't going to take a carjacking seriously, and they don't. But we all knew that was the case before we moved down here right?


No. Actually, I didn't. I brought with me the North American mindset that laws are to be obeyed and broken laws will be punished. I refuse to give up that frame of thought just because I live in Mexico.


You will be eaten alive with that mindset. IMHO you need to check many of your values and safe driving skill-set at the border. I came down here with your "Mayberry Baja" attitude six years ago. After two kidnap attempts, one extortion attempt, a truck theft, and two physical assaults (one by a man in a truck who tried to run me and my dogs over with his truck on the beach while yelling " FU Gringos- go home"). I prevailed in all- but who wants to go through this BS all the time when we came to enjoy the Baja we loved 30 years ago. No place is the same as our fond memories of youth recall them to be- on either side of the border. Plan wisely.

Our approach now is to only trust and socialize with fellow property owners. We are friendly with, but socially away from , the transient rental grifter crowd this close to the border. Baja Sur is very different. You can learn from my experiences or learn on your own. In 50 years of living stateside I never once had anything bad like the incident above happen to me. Plan carefully.

The Mexican justice system is in its infancy. Courts and the criminal justice system you would recognize in the USA are still a few years away here... but they are coming. Not many lawyers are trained yet for presenting verbal arguments in front of a court. Right now it is all in writing and is decided in absence of spectators. Until the coming reforms happen it's all in who you know- not what you did or had done to you.

[Edited on 1-24-2010 by Woooosh]

wessongroup - 1-24-2010 at 12:59 PM

Thanks for the reality check Woooosh

Woooosh - 1-25-2010 at 08:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Thanks for the reality check Woooosh


I'm sure what reality is here in Rosarito right now.

Now there are reports of TWO separate carjacking incidents in Rosarito and crazy Maggie says she has verified some of the story with the police:

"Rosarito Beach Police Department, and I guess you could say we got lucky. We spoke with Officer Jorge Caro, who turns out was the first responding officer on the scene at the Las Mananitas Restaurant incident. In fact, he was the officer who wrote the initial report. He verified everything, this did happen. He was also aware of the Rene's incident."

So , if these are true- there was one carjacking of a new SUV from an American at Rene's Mailroom and a second carjacking of an older model truck at Las Mananitas restaurant in town while the people were taking a noon Spanish lesson... (why would a restaurant allow Spanish lessons during the lunch rush?)

Anyone know what's going on?

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by Woooosh]

Rush?

Dave - 1-25-2010 at 09:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
(why would a restaurant allow Spanish lessons during the lunch rush?)

k-rico - 1-25-2010 at 09:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by arrowhead
Quote:
Originally posted by Mexicorn
Im staying away....etc.


OK, so.....are you Nancy or Fulano?
:rolleyes:


This reminds me of the movie "The Three Faces of Eve" :spingrin:

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 08:37 AM

Apparently there is a public meeting scheduled at the Rosarito Beach Hotel on Thursday afternoon with the Mayor and head of the police regarding this/these incident/s.

Let me save you the trip and half hour of time:
Gringos are not being targeted, these are random crimes of opportunity. The Rosarito Beach Police are doing everything they can to ensure Rosarito Beach is safe. The Mayor will say "Hey, even my truck was broken into in San Diego at an upscale mall last month." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

wessongroup - 1-26-2010 at 10:18 AM

Must agree, or have been just lucky over the past four months down here.. have never felt like we got even close to someone trying to "do a number" on us..

We do carry those stun guns, and collapsible batons and travel with two dogs just in case

Not sure at my age and physical condition I would be all to effective with either, but.. I might get lucky, as long as I didn't come to a gun fight with the above items :):)

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 12:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Must agree, or have been just lucky over the past four months down here.. have never felt like we got even close to someone trying to "do a number" on us..

We do carry those stun guns, and collapsible batons and travel with two dogs just in case

Not sure at my age and physical condition I would be all to effective with either, but.. I might get lucky, as long as I didn't come to a gun fight with the above items :):)


I do need to drop by Home Depot to pick up some of that long-range wasp spray many people keep in their cars for defense. I keep the stun guns at home- not sure what the legality is. I take a big dog with me everywhere I go, but last year three choc labs were stolen from a truck parked at the grocery store- so I don't leave them alone for too long. Once scent of food and they will stop barking and lick the perps to death.

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by Woooosh]

BajaGringo - 1-26-2010 at 12:14 PM

Remember? It's Taser, whack and shoot...

;)


Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Must agree, or have been just lucky over the past four months down here.. have never felt like we got even close to someone trying to "do a number" on us..

We do carry those stun guns, and collapsible batons and travel with two dogs just in case

Not sure at my age and physical condition I would be all to effective with either, but.. I might get lucky, as long as I didn't come to a gun fight with the above items :):)


I do need to drop by Home Depot to pick up some of that long-range wasp spray many people keep in their cars for defense. I keep the stun guns at home- not sure what the legality is. I take a big dog with me everywhere I go, but last year three choc labs were stolen from a truck parked at the grocery store- so I don't leave them alone for too long. Once scent of food and they will stop barking and lick the perps to death.

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by Woooosh]

wessongroup - 1-26-2010 at 12:18 PM

Had a solider pull mine out and look at it, keep it in the door pouch on my drive side when driving .. he signaled his commander.. he came over handled it, sparked up, and said ... very good!! and handed it back to the solider and walked away, I said Vaya con Dioss and away I went..

I think they might look at the stun gun as a defensive weapon, or at least that was the way they looked at "me" having one.. they didn't even ask me to get out of the car, just open the trunk...

Perhaps the next time it will be different.. :):)

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 12:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGringo
Remember? It's Taser, whack and shoot...

;)


Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by wessongroup
Must agree, or have been just lucky over the past four months down here.. have never felt like we got even close to someone trying to "do a number" on us..

We do carry those stun guns, and collapsible batons and travel with two dogs just in case

Not sure at my age and physical condition I would be all to effective with either, but.. I might get lucky, as long as I didn't come to a gun fight with the above items :):)


I do need to drop by Home Depot to pick up some of that long-range wasp spray many people keep in their cars for defense. I keep the stun guns at home- not sure what the legality is. I take a big dog with me everywhere I go, but last year three choc labs were stolen from a truck parked at the grocery store- so I don't leave them alone for too long. Once scent of food and they will stop barking and lick the perps to death.

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by Woooosh]


A Baja self defense and evasive driving class would be worth the time. Our home plan is: TASER, duct tape, roll them into doggie pool and hope they don't figure out it's only 4 feet deep. If they come with a gun it's: TASER, shoot them with their own gun, roll back into street. I don't have a car plan but don't care about damaging the car in getting away. Don't know if I'd have time to use bug spray. Won't carry a machete in the car. Would probably hit the panic button on the key chain to get attention.

While I'm on this subject - one of the easiest and best security tips I've seen is keeping your car keys with you at all times so you can push the panic button and sound the cars alarm- even if it's parked in the garage.

Dave - 1-26-2010 at 01:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
While I'm on this subject - one of the easiest and best security tips I've seen is keeping your car keys with you at all times so you can push the panic button and sound the cars alarm- even if it's parked in the garage.


It's been my experience that car alarms down here are largely ignored, especially by car owners.

Excuse me but is that your car alarm?

Yeah, it keeps going off.

Well, would you do something about it?

Why? It'll stop in a few minutes.

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 01:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
While I'm on this subject - one of the easiest and best security tips I've seen is keeping your car keys with you at all times so you can push the panic button and sound the cars alarm- even if it's parked in the garage.


It's been my experience that car alarms down here are largely ignored, especially by car owners.

Excuse me but is that your car alarm?

Yeah, it keeps going off.

Well, would you do something about it?

Why? It'll stop in a few minutes.

You're probably right but at least people look in the direction of the sound before ignoring it.

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 08:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by audiobaja
I thought it was "taser, duct tape, build addition"

From what I have seen on TV- encasing bodies in cement doesn't work well. Isn't Gotti under Yankee stadium or something like that? :rolleyes:

Mexicorn - 1-26-2010 at 09:03 PM

OMG What would Duane "The Dog" Chapman do in a case like this?
Oh the Humanity!!!!

Join the Rosarito Footprinters and Harry O will place an invisable force field around you that will keep you safe while in Rosarito.
And for the low low price of $49.95 he will throw in a nifty tin star (gold in color) that will allow you to drunk drive through the streets of Rosarito without being harrassed by those pesky do gooder Rosarito Police Officer's.

This public service anouncement was brought to you by
The Mexicorn
Hi Margie;D



[Edited on 1-27-2010 by Mexicorn]

wessongroup - 1-27-2010 at 07:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
gosh darnM....Sounds like people are going to have to go to town in a caravan.
Torres must have an explaination for the anomaly of behavior.

"Don't let this overreaction stop you tourists from coming down to Rob-Me-Arito. It's the press that's the problem. You'll love it here."

What a snakepit. This isn't even cartel stuff. It's just garbage people doing what they know they can get away with because nobody is allowed to defend themselves. Defending yourself is against the law. Volunteering to live in this atmosphere should be against the law as well.


When someone stole my truck in Rosarito Beach with my Nextel phone in it a couple years back, I called my phone and told them I could cut off the engine by cell phone because it was an electric hybrid. I gave them fifteen minutes to bring it back or I would call the police and stall the truck where it was. It came back and I didn't have to deal with the police. They never bothered me again.

[Edited on 1-23-2010 by Woooosh]


You are one creative guy.... good thinking:):)

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-27-2010 at 07:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
gosh darnM....Sounds like people are going to have to go to town in a caravan.
Torres must have an explaination for the anomaly of behavior.

"Don't let this overreaction stop you tourists from coming down to Rob-Me-Arito. It's the press that's the problem. You'll love it here."

What a snakepit. This isn't even cartel stuff. It's just garbage people doing what they know they can get away with because nobody is allowed to defend themselves. Defending yourself is against the law. Volunteering to live in this atmosphere should be against the law as well.


Dennis, If Mexico does NOT allow "Defensa Propia" then they will just have to put me in jail if I injure or kill someone in Mexico defending myself against an attacker. I will defend myself to the fullest extent possible at the time of confrontation. One or both of us may not make it back home after the confrontation. I refuse to go gentle into that goodnight because they are probably going to kill me anyway. F-That!!! Go down with a fight!

Edit: Forgot an f-ing word!

[Edited on 1-27-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]

Woooosh - 1-27-2010 at 09:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
gosh darnM....Sounds like people are going to have to go to town in a caravan.
Torres must have an explaination for the anomaly of behavior.

"Don't let this overreaction stop you tourists from coming down to Rob-Me-Arito. It's the press that's the problem. You'll love it here."

What a snakepit. This isn't even cartel stuff. It's just garbage people doing what they know they can get away with because nobody is allowed to defend themselves. Defending yourself is against the law. Volunteering to live in this atmosphere should be against the law as well.


Dennis, If Mexico does allow "Defensa Propia" then they will just have to put me in jail if I injure or kill someone in Mexico defending myself against an attacker. I will defend myself to the fullest extent possible at the time of confrontation. One or both of us may not make it back home after the confrontation. I refuse to go gentle into that goodnight because they are probably going to kill me anyway. F-That!!! Go down with a fight!


Same here! I'm too old to die young anyway. We Connecticut Yankees don't turn and run either...

Woooosh - 1-27-2010 at 10:24 PM

Picked up El Mex at the border. They are today reporting " asaltdos varios turistas extranjeros" (assaults of tourists from other countries) as well as domestic (homes) and business robberies in Rosarito Beach. They say the crimes are mostly being done by delinquent drug addicts for money to buy drugs.

No new details in the article, just a general admission of some crimes against tourists. Still nothing in any US press - maybe hey don't want to cause a "security alert".

whoop, whooop, whoop - security alert! (help animate that elvistigator!) :)

The wife dropped some bedspreads off at the local lavamatica and the lady working there had the gate locked- she was robbed last week.

Donjulio - 1-27-2010 at 10:28 PM

Its the economy. Going to get worse I'm afraid.

arrowhead - 1-28-2010 at 09:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Donjulio
Its the economy. Going to get worse I'm afraid.


The economy got decidedly worse in 2009 in the US, yet crime dropped 20% in San Diego last year.

Woooosh - 1-28-2010 at 10:47 PM

I think that set off my epilepsy... but thanks!

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-29-2010 at 02:19 AM


Bajafun777 - 1-29-2010 at 10:25 PM

I don't drive or take anything worth dying for in Mexico, as long as they let me and the wife to go on our way they can have whatever they are big enough to take. I can always replace things and get more money but I cannot get another that I care so much for that I would do something stupid to cost her or my life. I will not get in a car to be taken as a kidnap victim nor allow her to be taken, in that case I guess I hope my skills are good enough to at least let her get away and what the heck maybe just maybe me. Nobody knows what they would really do with a gun pointed at them until it happens then you know, not a very good feeling and I assure you that the taste you get in your mouth you will remember for life when it happens. Hope everyone stays safe but throw your keys and money as far as you can in these situations and both of you run the other way to hopefully what will be freedom. Again, stay alert and focused and may God keep all of us safe when we are in Mexico. Later bajafun777

garynmx - 1-30-2010 at 04:01 AM

I heard that BJ got her car back and the guys that took it were arrested in TJ.

arrowhead - 1-30-2010 at 10:41 AM

Here's the report in El Mexicano about the meeting with expats in Rosarito. I'd translate it for you, but it is a waste of time. It really doesn't say anything...more like a big circle-jerk. Since Mexicorn said he was going to the meeting and hasn't been heard from since, I'd guess Hugo told him to STFU.


Quote:

http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/noticias/estatal/2010/01/30/39...

sábado, 30 de enero de 2010PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- Ante la alta incidencia de hechos delictivos del fueron común que se están registrando en esta ciudad, más de 100 extranjeros con residencia en este municipio, fueron invitados a seguir involucrándose en los programas preventivos impulsados tanto por Secretaría de Seguridad Pública como por el Consejo Ciudadano en la materia.

En una reunión privada en el hotel de su propiedad, el alcalde Hugo Torres Chabert, invitó a los asistentes a denunciar cualquier anomalía de que detecten o de algún delito de que sean víctimas, con la confianza de que serán atendidos con la mayor prontitud posible.

El propio presidente municipal, subrayó que se escucharon las dudas de los residentes extranjeros con relación a la reglamentación en materia de seguridad pública, al reiterar que el gobierno municipal se mantiene en la mejor disposición de brindarles asesoría y el apoyo necesario cuando así lo requieran.

Destacó que en la reunión participó también el subprocurador de Justicia de Zona, Rafael González Cervantes, quien les informó a los ciudadanos estadounidenses acerca de los procedimientos que se tienen que seguir ante la comisión de un delito.

Por su parte, el secretario de Seguridad Pública, Jorge Eduardo Montero Álvarez, les reiteró a los asistentes que la Policía Municipal está para servir a la población en general y que podían tener confianza en las denuncias reportadas en el número telefónico 066.

Dijo que de su lado, el presidente del Consejo Ciudadano de Seguridad Pública, Ricardo Moreno Villa, presentó el programa “Vecino Vigilante”, que tuvo una gran aceptación dentro de la comunidad extranjera.

Torres Chabert, puntualizó que durante la reunión giró instrucciones al jefe del Departamento de Atención al Turista, Fernando Toledo, para que se pusiera a las órdenes de los residentes extranjeros con el propósito de auxiliarlos en cualquier situación que lo requieran.


...and in the same paper on the same day, here is a news item that says there were seven robberies and armed assaults in Rosarito within an 11-hour period.

Quote:
http://www.el-mexicano.com.mx/noticias/estatal/2010/01/30/39...

PLAYAS DE ROSARITO.- En menos de doce horas se cometieron diversos asaltos y robos a comercios, así como a una casa habitación, de acuerdo con las denuncias que los afectados presentaron ante la Policía Municipal.

DENNIS - 1-30-2010 at 10:46 AM

Nice place, that Rob-Me-Arito. They should choose Ciudad Juarez for a sister-city.

Woooosh - 1-30-2010 at 12:04 PM

Rosarito will do anything and everything it can to ensure Spring Break happens this year. I think the city should focus more on re-opening the closed mega-clubs that were the tourist draw. Until Iggy returns, no one else will. He's the safety litmus test for merchants.

Imagine how bad the PR nightmare for Torres would be if he hadn't run out the Gringo Gazette when he did. Aside from alleged copyright issues, the GG got booted for calling Torres and his followers out on their shady real estate dealings. Imagine what the Gringo Gazette would have done the past two years with the violence and now the current crime spree. Still not content with no good news being printed, they have turned to bullying the sailing clubs and media to report nothing bad (security alerts). Pretty soon they will run out of scapegoats and excuses and realize crime reporting isn't the real problem, the crime is.

The Gull - 1-30-2010 at 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by garynmx
I heard that BJ got her car back and the guys that took it were arrested in TJ.


If that is a fact, many of the hate minded posters on this thread will not acknowledge it - their passion is to feel better by running their mouths about how bad the world is.

We all live in a yellow lifeguardhouse, a yellow lifeguardhouse, a yellow lifeguardhouse.

wessongroup - 2-20-2010 at 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Just wondering, because in my own little world I haven't heard much about armed carjackings down here in Rosarito.

So, is this thug that committed this atrocity a displaced cholo from Riverside sitting in Rene's parking lot, waiting to bring home a big prize in order to get in good with his new crew in the Rosarito hood?


Think this is the spot on.. or at least pretty darn close.. this is not the "usual suspects"