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Baja Sur goverment in deep s*it

JESSE - 1-25-2010 at 06:02 PM

Acording to Zeta Tijuana, the DEA gave the Mexican feds, photos, phone recordings, and even specific amounts of cash paid to 1st level employees of Baja Sur goverment. Including the secretary general, the attorney general, and the public safety secretary.

The info claims Baja sur goverment knew where Teo lived. Theres also businessmen, notaries, and politicians involved.

http://tiny.cc/BrHST

DENNIS - 1-25-2010 at 06:09 PM

Makes it harder to ignore when a foreign agency lays the proof on the table.
Protecting Teo? That's not good.

JESSE - 1-25-2010 at 06:12 PM

Apparently, none of the above mentioned officials, have been seen, since Teo's arrest.

monoloco - 1-25-2010 at 06:15 PM

I'm surprised the governor wasn't mentioned.

DENNIS - 1-25-2010 at 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
Apparently, none of the above mentioned officials, have been seen, since Teo's arrest.

Government run by Twitter. :lol:

bajajazz - 1-25-2010 at 06:15 PM

Since all three of these gentlemen are members of the governor's cabinet, it is safe to assume they are Nabisco's bagmen, or is it possible that they were freelancing on their own without knowledge or approval of higher-ups?

Also, is it safe for non-citizens to even be commenting on issues like this?

JESSE - 1-25-2010 at 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by monoloco
I'm surprised the governor wasn't mentioned.

No need to, that bunch has a very close relationship.

Friend of mine from a fed agency in Mexico City says arrest warrants are coming.

aldosalato - 1-25-2010 at 07:20 PM

Here is a story in Spanish of the current political climate in BCS........

http://puertoviejobcs.blogspot.com/

[Edited on 1-26-2010 by aldosalato]

Shhhhhh!

Dave - 1-25-2010 at 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE

Friend of mine from a fed agency in Mexico City says arrest warrants are coming.

Let's try and keep this quiet.

We wouldn't want to warn them. :rolleyes:

Woooosh - 1-25-2010 at 10:59 PM

If all this is true, who's next after Baja Sur? If the DEA was allowed to help, their systems are scary-accurate. Depending on how long Teo was being tracked, the list of accomplices will be long. Baja Sur was just the endpoint. The DEA will know how many suitcases of cash went out and who got them. Teo got out of tough spots before with cash and I'm thinking he stuck around Rosarito for so long in the open because it was "friendly" to him. We'll see what really did or didn't happen if the DEA is really involved for that long.

The Mexican gov't is having an El Nino of its own...

LOSARIPES - 1-25-2010 at 11:12 PM

Heads will and should roll. Corruption is the name of the game and those who fell to temptation will pay. Not all of them.. or not just yet.
Those holding powerful government positions know well what they are up to. They are gambling and if they hit the jackpot, (suitcase) they know everybody else knows.... the higher in the ranks the better.... the lower in the ranks the longer it will take to clean the mess............ IMHO

Iflyfish - 1-25-2010 at 11:52 PM

Wow, thanks for posting this Jesse. Sounds like progress. Three more down and ???? to go.

DENNIS - 1-26-2010 at 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by LOSARIPES
Heads will and should roll. Corruption is the name of the game and those who fell to temptation will pay. Not all of them.. or not just yet.
Those holding powerful government positions know well what they are up to. They are gambling and if they hit the jackpot, (suitcase) they know everybody else knows.... the higher in the ranks the better.... the lower in the ranks the longer it will take to clean the mess............ IMHO

I have for a long time been inclined to ignore the consumer's
complicity in this organization. I clearly see my error in this myopic view and they can no longer be considered merely victims. They have aided and abetted, actually made possible, the existance of the criminals we see falling today.
When will we begin to rejoice in the downfall of the drug industry, the seller and buyer, in the US? They are as much at fault for this mess as Teo.
One of these days we'll have to approach the enemy within. If it's you or your kids, your day will come and wether it's legalization or prison that will approach the issue....good. Do it. Just do something.

I said this in another thread!

ELINVESTIG8R - 1-26-2010 at 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
The Mexican Government needs to have an "Official Lineup" complete with police agency or army backdrop boards and 8x10 glossy photographs of all corrupt officials they identify in their corruption probe so the entire world and see them. Not just the killers and drug dealers. Have they been doing that all along and I just missed it? Past and present scumbag officials need to suffer HUMILIATION GALORE before being imprisoned!

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 09:16 AM

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IMHO "Humiliation Galore" does not work in Mexico because there simply is no shame here. Sort of like New Orleans- where everyone respects a good crooked politician. The upcoming Mexican elections will be a mess trying to fill all these open positions. I wonder if PAN/PRI politics will come into play? Did one party get more suitcases from Teo than the other?

k-rico - 1-26-2010 at 09:31 AM

I wonder if PAN/PRI politics will come into play? Did one party get more suitcases from Teo than the other?

I think the crooked BCS politians are PRD, which has advocated the legalization of drugs.

BajaGringo - 1-26-2010 at 09:53 AM

Agreed...

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Probably Not

Bajahowodd - 1-26-2010 at 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by bajajazz

Also, is it safe for non-citizens to even be commenting on issues like this?

Also, I had mentioned it on at least one other thread- It had been a more or less open secret that government officials in BCS were in the pocket of the cartels. Things had been way too quiet for way to long down there for it to be anyway other than that.

DENNIS - 1-26-2010 at 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

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Originally posted by bajajazz

Also, is it safe for non-citizens to even be commenting on issues like this?

Bulllcrappp. Silence yourself and those who don't want to hear you will be served. If that's the government...well....you figure it out.

arrowhead - 1-26-2010 at 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
Acording to Zeta Tijuana, the DEA gave the Mexican feds, photos, phone recordings, and even specific amounts of cash paid to 1st level employees of Baja Sur goverment. Including the secretary general, the attorney general, and the public safety secretary.

Those are the same babosas implicated in the assassination attempt on Baja Sur Senator Coppola.

Woooosh - 1-26-2010 at 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

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Originally posted by bajajazz

Also, is it safe for non-citizens to even be commenting on issues like this?

Bulllcrappp. Silence yourself and those who don't want to hear you will be served. If that's the government...well....you figure it out.

It may be considered a "Security Alert" in Baja Norte. But I don't really know what a Security Alert is. I think when all the names come out- there won't be many "lerts" left.

JESSE - 2-2-2010 at 04:58 PM

Two La Paz cops killed today.

bajabass - 2-2-2010 at 05:03 PM

Here we go! :no:

I hope this is a VERY isolated event. I really want to move my family to that area. One of the main reasons being little crime and no heavy narco problems. Please keep us posted on the details Jesse.

Bajahowodd - 2-2-2010 at 05:12 PM

Jesse. Perhaps more details??? I'm thinking that even if it's retaliation, it would also signal a certain amount of capitulation. But right now, with just the knowledge that two La Paz policemen have been killed, without any other info.....

Quien sabe?

DENNIS - 2-2-2010 at 05:32 PM

Well, let's see......... Teo is collected in La Paz and half the government leaders are in hiding. Is it a surprise that cartel related criminal activity is taking place there?

Bajahowodd - 2-2-2010 at 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Well, let's see......... Teo is collected in La Paz and half the government leaders are in hiding. Is it a surprise that cartel related criminal activity is taking place there?

With the understanding that cartel-like violence was basically non-existent there? I appreciate that you are viewing this through your BC lenses. And maybe you are correct. We'll see.

bajabass - 2-2-2010 at 05:40 PM

Not a suprise at all. I am astonished it took this long. I was just hoping Baja Sur could stay out of the violence limelight. Things like this are one of the lead reasons I plan on moving to Baja Sur. I just hope this is the end, and not a new beginning.

Bajahowodd - 2-2-2010 at 05:45 PM

I think it boils down to exactly how much power the cartels have. I always figured that BCS provided the cartels with cover, while simultaneously being a huge revenue stream for Mexico because of tourism. Tourism will dry up in a second, if there is anything close to the violence experienced elsewhere. It's going to be a game of chicken, IMHO.

k-rico - 2-2-2010 at 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass
Not a suprise at all. I am astonished it took this long. I was just hoping Baja Sur could stay out of the violence limelight. Things like this are one of the lead reasons I plan on moving to Baja Sur. I just hope this is the end, and not a new beginning.

Look at the bright side, as a potential home buyer you may find some better deals.

I know, I know, I've been living in TJ too long.

Some guy was killed just down the street from me last night. I heard the gun fire - pow pow...pow pow pow pow...pow pow. Got up, looked out the 2nd story window, watched all the cop cars congregate for a while, and went back to bed ...............

Nothing new, that's for sure.

DENNIS - 2-2-2010 at 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico

I know, I know, I've been living in TJ too long.

pow pow...pow pow pow pow...pow pow

What kind of a gun sounds like that?

k-rico - 2-2-2010 at 05:54 PM

A pow pow gun, they're the newest thing.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-2-2010 at 05:59 PM

Two Policemen were killed while in the process of trying to stop two armed robbery suspects. It appears that a third Policeman was wounded and in critical condition.

Story in Spanish here: http://www.prensaescrita.com/adiario.php?codigo=MEX&pagi...

Edit: spelling correction!

[Edited on 2-3-2010 by ELINVESTIG8R]

bajabass - 2-2-2010 at 06:42 PM

Did they get the guys? Hope the third cop makes it.

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-2-2010 at 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass
Did they get the guys? Hope the third cop makes it.

Bajabass I don't think they got them yet. I sure hope they do catch these scumbag killers.

bajabass - 2-3-2010 at 07:43 AM

Thanks, I am working on my spanish. If there is a way to look at these links in english, I'd like to know about it. It sounds more like typical scumbags, not a cartel scumbag hit. I know that does not help the murdered cops, but if it is not cartel related, maybe they will be able to track them down!

Bass Man

djh - 2-3-2010 at 08:07 AM

Electric or Acoustic...?

Just kidding.... I know your strings are measured in pound-test rather than tuning :-) a few decades of bass and cello in the symphony and solo career have twisted me a bit...

You CAN always use a translator web site to translate.... although you will get a very rough (grammatically incorrect) translation, it can help you get the basic drift:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/

and

http://translate.google.com/#

are my two favorites.... They have helped me a ton !

Best,
djh

arrowhead - 2-3-2010 at 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by bajabass
Thanks, I am working on my spanish. If there is a way to look at these links in english, I'd like to know about it.

If you want to see a side-by-side translation of an internet page from Spanish to English, download and install the Google toolbar. When the Google toolbar is installed on your browser, there are more menu items to select from over on the right-hand side. One of the menu items is "Page". Click on that and a drop-down menu will appear. From the drop-down menu select "Google Translate". A new tab will open with the page you are looking at translated into the language of your choice.

When you scroll your mouse over a translated sentence on the page, a balloon will appear which shows the same sentence as it was written in Spanish, so you can compare the two. Be careful, Google translate often gets the grammar wrong, so modifiers like adjectives and adverbs are modifying the wrong word. It also tends to turn negative statements into positive statements. For example, the Spanish version may say, "He did not go", and it is translated as "He did go."

bajabass - 2-3-2010 at 08:14 AM

Thanks folks, I'll give it a try!

TRANSLATED IN MICROSOFT WORD

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-3-2010 at 08:18 AM

La Paz, Baja California Sur.- Dos agentes de la Dirección de Seguridad y Transito Municipal fueron acribillados a balazos luego que intentaron frustrar un asalto en una casa habitación de la popular colonia La Fuente de esta ciudad. Otro elemento policiaco que en cumplimiento de su deber intentaba detener a los ladrones también fue baleado y en estos momentos se debate entre la vida y la muerte en el Hospital Salvatierra. Se trata de Carlos Vega y Manuel Ochoa, adscritos a la Dirección General de Seguridad Pública y Tránsito Municipal de La Paz, quienes fallecieron en el tiroteo, y Luis Felipe González, quien resultó lesionado y se encuentra en el Hospital Juan María de Salvatierra. Según confirmó el subprocurador del estado, Luis Alberto López López, los uniformados acudieron por un llamado de robo en la colonia La Fuente, en las calle del Mar esquina de La Cascada. Al arribar, los recibieron a balazos. La información recabada indica que al menos tres sujetos armados con pistolas calibre 9 milímetros intentaban realizar un robo en una vivienda de dicha colonia ubicada al sur de la ciudad. Al ser sorprendidos, los ladrones salieron de la vivienda y dispararon a los policías. Al primero le dieron un balazo en la cara y al segundo policía en la zona del corazón, perdiendo la vida ambos, en forma casi inmediata. Los agresores huyeron a bordo de una patrulla pickup, en que habían arribado los policías al lugar de los hechos. Una intensa movilización policíaca inició primeramente por la zona del Rastro municipal y luego por las colonias Agua Escondida, Diana Laura, La Fuente, Camino Real, Santa Fe y Miramar donde se desató la búsqueda de los peligrosos criminales quienes hasta el momento continúan prófugos y permanecen armados. Al mismo tiempo, en pleno centro de la ciudad, dos sujetos desconocidos asaltaban un negocio de venta de calzado, denominado “Impulso”, ubicado en la calle Gómez Farias entre 16 de Septiembre y Degollado. En el lugar, a mano armada y con violencia, los delincuentes lograron amarrar al propietario, Ignacio Marques Osuna y lo metieron al baño, llevándose también un automóvil marca Ford Focus, 2002, con placas de circulación 711 PMN’4, mismo que minutos después fue abandonado a tres cuadras del incidente. En este suceso afortunadamente no hubo lesionados. El titular de la dependencia municipal, José Saúl González Núñez descartó en entrevista que en este asunto exista cualquier vínculo relacionado con el narcotráfico.

La Paz, Baja California Sur. Two agents of the Directorate of security and transit city were allegedly shot then attempted to thwart an assault on a House popular colony this city the fountain room. Another item Police in line of duty tried to stop thieves was also shot and currently discussed between life and death in Hospital Salvatierra. It is Carlos Vega and Manuel Ochoa, attached to the Directorate-General of public security and transit city of La Paz, who died in the shooting, and Luis Felipe González, who was injured and is located in Hospital Juan María de Salvatierra. As confirmed the the State, Luis Alberto López López, the uniformed Assistant Attorney came by a call of theft in the colony the fountain in the sea street corner of The cascade. Arrive, received them with bullets. The information gathered indicates that at least three subjects armed with pistols caliber 9 mm attempting to perform a robbery in a housing that colony located south of the city. To be surprised, thieves emerged from housing and fired for police officers. The first was given a shot in the face and the second police in the area of the heart, losing life both in the form almost immediate. The attackers fled aboard a patrol pickup, which had reached the police to the place of the facts. An intense mobilization Police started first by the municipal sign zone and then by the colonies Agua Escondida, Diana Laura, La Fuente, Royal Road, Santa Fe and Miramar where broke the search for dangerous criminals who up to When continue fugitives and remain armed. At the same time, in full the city centre, two unknown subjects raided a business selling of footwear, called "Pulse", located in the street Gómez Farias between 16 of September and decapitated. Instead, hand armed and violence, the criminals managed to tie up to the owner, Ignacio Marques Osuna and put the bathroom, being also a car mark Ford Focus, 2002, with 711 PMN ' 4, same as minutes later movement plates was abandoned to three blocks from the incident. In this event there fortunately was not injured.The holder of the municipal unit, Joseph Saul Gonzalez Núñez discarded in interview that in this case there is any related link with the drug trafficking.

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by arrowhead
Be careful, Google translate often gets the grammar wrong, so modifiers like adjectives and adverbs are modifying the wrong word. It also tends to turn negative statements into positive statements. For example, the Spanish version may say, "He did not go", and it is translated as "He did go."

And, if you really want to have some fun, return the translation to the translator to be converted back to Spanish, then do it again, back to English. Not much of the original piece will be left.
I think these translators do one word at a time. Anyway, better than nothing and you can hone your extrapolation skills.

comitan - 2-3-2010 at 09:32 AM

more info from another poster.
It's on the front page of the Sudcaliforniano. It happened in La Fuente, which is a neighborhood on the way to San Pedro. A woman called in a robbery at her home, and when the policemen arrived they were met with three people with 9 mm weapons who opened fire. Only one of the policemen had vests on; he is at Salvatierra hospital, don't know what his condition is. The owner of the house was an "aficionado del gallo" and my Mexican friend says that means he's a gambler.

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by comitan
The owner of the house was an "aficionado del gallo" and my Mexican friend says that means he's a gambler.

c-ckfights, maybe?

JESSE - 2-3-2010 at 12:09 PM

This stupid state goverment thinks where idiots. This was NOT a robbery at all.

1.-Thieves that break into houses don't carry around 9mm guns.

2.-Thieves don't have the obvious shooting skills these gunmen had.

3.-This was obviously an organized crime home invasion, most likely to collect some debt.

They are NOT going to find the gunmen.

monoloco - 2-3-2010 at 12:57 PM

Jesse, When's the Sh*t going to hit the fan for the mordilones who were protecting El Teo? He was also often seen in Todos Santos at a house whose owners are connected to the governor.

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by audiobaja
How was it they were that armed and prepared to kill so many people? Why just weeks after Teo's arrest in a city that has essentially no murder rate at all? Why at the very same time someone else was getting robbed at gun point?

Perhaps the La Paz chapter of the cartel, now leaderless, doesn't have anything else to do.

Bajahowodd - 2-3-2010 at 03:40 PM

Maybe people shouldn't try to over think this. I just read that the police arrested someone connected to that awful massacre of young people in Juarez the other day. Up to this point, police were unable to find even the most minute connection between the victims and the gangs. Turns out the guy they arrested said that the gang acted on a rumor that the party was being attended by some rivals. Rumor!!! 16 or more young innocents dead over a rumor!

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-3-2010 at 03:42 PM

These people could be former cartel members not getting a paycheck anymore and are freelancing to make ends meet. I sure hope they meet their end in a very painful way before they die!

JESSE - 2-3-2010 at 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Perhaps the La Paz chapter of the cartel, now leaderless, doesn't have anything else to do.

A cartel is never leaderless. The minute a boss goes down, the replacement is ready to take charge.

JESSE - 2-3-2010 at 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Maybe people shouldn't try to over think this. I just read that the police arrested someone connected to that awful massacre of young people in Juarez the other day. Up to this point, police were unable to find even the most minute connection between the victims and the gangs. Turns out the guy they arrested said that the gang acted on a rumor that the party was being attended by some rivals. Rumor!!! 16 or more young innocents dead over a rumor!

Trust me, if the police where really that good at arresting criminals in Juarez, the city wouldn't be the deadliest on earth. Theres a lot more to this story, and it certaintly isnt what small time killer told the cops after a night of torture.

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 04:07 PM

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But Juarez's murder rate is literally several hundred times that of La Paz.

It's unrealistic to compare anywhere with Juarez. The place needs to be flown over by the Enola Gay.

Something else I have to ask....As corrupt as the government is down there, how do we know we're getting all the news? Perhaps they're being selective with news dissemination just as Torres in Rosarito is trying to be. La Paz may be more similar to Juarez than you think. It may be exactly like Kabul or Baghdad. Chicago maybe.
Yep...that's what it may be like. Kabul....where the bad guys rule. :cool:

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE

A cartel is never leaderless. The minute a boss goes down, the replacement is ready to take charge.

Yeah...I know. It's a big organization.
I was trying to figure out how BCS would fit into the scheme of moving drugs and I remembered the deep water port. I knew a scummy drug dealer in the states years ago who told me he got all his inventory from a respectable family living in the middle of Ensenada. Without going into detail, he said most drugs are imported into the US in containers on ships. Probably true.

k-rico - 2-3-2010 at 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Something else I have to ask....As corrupt as the government is down there, how do we know we're getting all the news?

Funny you should ask:

Martinez’s murder comes a week after an editor in Baja California Sur filed a complaint with the state representative of the Attorney General’s office, after he was allegedly abducted, beaten and threatened with death by the local mayor and the mayor’s cohorts. Armando Suarez Martinez, editor of Puerto Viejo magazine, reported that he was insulted by the Loreto mayor in the town hall, and was punched by the mayor’s secretary, according to a report by the Center for Journalism and Public Ethics in Mexico.

http://www.freemedia.at/startpage/singleview/4688/

Furthermore, the journalist said Armando Suarez, Puerto Viejo magazine, published in La Paz, Baja California, who according to the organization was "under threat of death" by the municipal president of Loreto, Yuan Yee Cunningham.

(the above snippet is a google translation)

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion/175372.html

I don't know what this is all about, but journalism is a dangerous job in Mexico.

Yuan Yee Cunningham??????

[Edited on 2-4-2010 by k-rico]

Woooosh - 2-3-2010 at 04:58 PM

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Just to add to your point. The gunmen shot up several other houses on the street and their targets ran to the party house and mingled in with the guests. The rivals weren't checking ID's and shot everyone. No parents at home?

Woooosh - 2-3-2010 at 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
These people could be former cartel members not getting a paycheck anymore and are freelancing to make ends meet. I sure hope they meet their end in a very painful way before they die!

Can't they keep themselves busy searching for the dozens of $Million suitcases Teo probably buried? Maybe a year-long GPS scavenger hunt contest? It could be a really interesting game with required kidnappings, robberies, extortion, mutilations, bribery, torturing and acts of revenge until they hone in on the $Million suitcases (or the biz connection to fill their own cases now that Teo is temporarily out of the picture). Oh yeah- that game has already started. Who gets to make the map?

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by k-rico
Yuan Yee Cunningham??????

Yeah.

I wonder if that guy hs his FMT.

Woooosh - 2-3-2010 at 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by audiobaja

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Something else I have to ask....As corrupt as the government is down there, how do we know we're getting all the news? Perhaps they're being selective with news dissemination just as Torres in Rosarito is trying to be. La Paz may be more similar to Juarez than you think. It may be exactly like Kabul or Baghdad. Chicago maybe.
Yep...that's what it may be like. Kabul....where the bad guys rule. :cool:

Who implied we're getting all of the news? Hell, we're barely getting ANY of it.

"All the news that's been vetted"

They're still hanging on to that ridiculous "oh, we hit a Telmex cable" BS. C'mon.

What they USED to do here (not kidding) is if something bad were printed about the government or someone important, they would simply buy every paper in La Paz so no one could read about it. Living here is occasionally like being in the 30s in a movie.

It DOES make it interesting though. Nothing boring about politics here. It's going to get really interesting when the election rolls around.

I know the guy Hugo Torres hired to pull the Gringo Gazettes off store racks in town when the negative real estate stories about him were front page fodder. Point of Sale Censorship. Next best thing to threatening journalists over security alerts I guess.

Don Alley - 2-3-2010 at 05:37 PM

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Yuan Yee Cunningham??????

Yeah.

I wonder if that guy hs his FMT.

The Yees are an old Loreto BCS family of Chinese descent. I believe there are Yees in Mulege as well.

The Cunninghams (pronounced COON-een-ham) are of English descent and are also a prominent family here.

Yuan Yee suceeded one of many Davises (Dah-vis) who have usually held power in Loreto. Also of English descent, there are more Davises in Loreto than any other family save the Murillos.

Another prominent local family of English descent is the Greene family.

As for the allegations...

"I Know Nothing!"

JESSE - 2-3-2010 at 05:52 PM

Hey Don, is it true hes a little crazy? many people here in La Paz, including politicians from his own party call him el chino loco.

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 06:03 PM

WOW...Michener could have written a book about Loreto. Oh...wait a minute. He did. Hawaii.

k-rico - 2-3-2010 at 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by JESSE
Hey Don, is it true hes a little crazy? many people here in La Paz, including politicians from his own party call him el chino loco.

Doesn't having a journalist punched out and then threatening to kill him put him in the "a little crazy" category?

arrowhead - 2-3-2010 at 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
WOW...Michener could have written a book about Loreto. Oh...wait a minute. He did. Hawaii.

Naw, in order for that to be true, Yuan Lee would have to marry his sister. (OK, that won't make any sense unless you read the book.)

DENNIS - 2-3-2010 at 07:00 PM

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Naw, in order for that to be true, Yuan Lee would have to marry his sister. (OK, that won't make any sense unless you read the book.)

Reading is one thing. Remembering is something else. :?:

ELINVESTIG8R - 2-4-2010 at 12:53 PM

Wow, great news AudioBaja. I hope they catch them soon and TORTURE

errrr, I mean, Interrogate the hell out of them to get some additional information about their cartel buddies. That is if they don't kill them during their apprehension which would positively be just too bad. :lol:

"Social"

djh - 2-5-2010 at 07:34 AM

"And yes, this lady is likely involved in drug sales and somehow peeed off the wrong people. Apparently has a very nice and very "social" house in a mediocre neighborhood."

Huh? "Social" . . . ?

Hmmmmmmm...